Getting information from the media

just wondering what everyone else thinks of this

for example if you read newspapers, watch TV, read boards:)


The Irish economy is going bankrupt, people are going to go hungry and there will be a brake down in civil society.

or else we are just going through a painful adjustment and everything will be all right in a year or two.

now both opinion's ( usually backed up by statistics ) cant be right

so if you were making a decision and need unbiased accurate opinions where would you look.

ScumLord

The celtic tiger was the blip, we're just back to normal really.

I don't read newspapers any more, the tabloids are just dumbass opinions and muck wrapped in tits.

Watch RTE news and get the rest from the internet.

LouOB

My wallet

Ponster

mariaalice wrote: »

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The Irish economy is going bankrupt, people are going to go hungry and there will be a brake down in civil society.

or else we are just going through a painful adjustment and everything will be all right in a year or two.

Nobody can tell the future. These are peoples opinions backed up by statistics that help prove their opinion.

>so if you were making a decision and need unbiased accurate opinions where would you look.

Depends on the subject at hand. But if it had anything to do with the future of the Irish economy I think it's impossible to just look at Irish news sources.

phasers

Dole queues

irish times and bloomberg are good. i get pissed of reading the independant cause it's cock.

AnonoBoy

I find that if I ignore the media everything is just fine.

There was more tax taken off my pay cheque in the last while but besides that everything is A-OK in AnonoBoy World.

Yours living in denial,

AnonoBoy.

seanybiker

ScumLord wrote: »

The celtic tiger was the blip, we're just back to normal really.

To right. must say it actually feels good to be back to normal. Least now me next door neighbour isnt getting builders in every week to change a light bulb

Nehaxak

It's not as bad as what it was in the 80's (yet). Only thing that's really different now is that a lot more corrupt, greedy and selfish people were effected so they're just whining on about it all the time, boo hoo, I'm losing money on my property investments, etc.,

Oh and I don't read newspapers nor watch the news on TV.

for the replies so far

I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.

if you use dole ques ( or more accurately the rate of unemployment ) as an example

Your could hold the opinion... thats the way it is in a modern capitalist society you will always have periodic episodes of recession resulting in unemployment OR

you could say Ireland is a failed political entity ..the poor man of Europe etc and the Celtic tiger was just a blip. Therefore high unemployment is a result of that failed political entity

ScumLord

mariaalice wrote: »

for the replies so far

I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.

That's because the economy is a work of fiction and fantasy, it can be whatever we want it to be. These people may want to make it serve their own interests or the interests of the people paying them to say those things. Some may like the economy to serve the people instead of the other way around.

mariaalice

mariaalice wrote: »

I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.

it's an imperfect science. these same different opinions are what makes room for profit in the stock market etc.

Ponster

mariaalice wrote: »

Your could hold the opinion... thats the way it is in a modern capitalist society you will always have periodic episodes of recession resulting in unemployment OR

This would be my thinking. Before the Celtic Tiger when was the last time Ireland experienced a 'boom'? There's no reason why things won't get better (though they may get worse first).

you could say Ireland is a failed political entity ..the poor man of Europe etc and the Celtic tiger was just a blip. Therefore high unemployment is a result of that failed political entity

Probably not the thread for this but does anyone really think that there is anyone alive in this country who could have prevented a worldwide recession from affecting Ireland? All the elected officials can do is limit the extent of the increased unemployment but I think it's foolish to believe that someone could have stopped it.

jimmycrackcorm

Since when have journalists become experts on anything?

As for economists - they tend to agree historically but come up with theories based on what information they study more - it's not possible to know about everything.

jimmycrackcorm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Since when have boardsies become experts on economics?

fyp.


your point about economic theory is true tho..

thelordofcheese

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Since when have journalists become experts on anything?

Probably around the same time every second poster on AH did.

Économiste Monétaire

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

As for economists - they tend to agree historically but come up with theories based on what information they study more - it's not possible to know about everything.

What?