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A boards league table measuring performance improvement
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10-04-2009 11:04am#1I am relatively new to boards so apologies if this has been suggested or tried already. Similar to WBY's thread on the obsession with marathon running, I have observed a lot of discussion of very dedicated (some might say obsessive
) runners and racers with frequent questions being asked by occasional and new runners. What's missing is some form of link between us all that can create the "collegiate air" across the community.
My suggestion is that we take something like a simple Cooper test and allow all board users to submit their benchmark distance covered over the 12 minutes (baseline as 100). We can then run the test again,say, every 6 - 8 weeks and present a table of the relative change rather than the absolute change, offering those new to running to achieve better relative improvement.
Everyone will be equal to start off, and improvement will be the way to get to the top of the table, whether you start by walking for 12 minutes or cover over 3700m+ in that time.
The other advantage of getting this common baseline is that we can present a profile of the contributors and monitor the progress of the group over time - because being involved will improve performance!
Sound like something that people would view as a useful tool and way of including all?
I'm happy to administer the list, and yes your actual data will be safe with me
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I am relatively new to boards so apologies if this has been suggested or tried already. Similar to WBY's thread on the obsession with marathon running, I have observed a lot of discussion of very dedicated (some might say obsessive) runners and racers with frequent questions being asked by occasional and new runners. What's missing is some form of link between us all that can create the "collegiate air" across the community.
My suggestion is that we take something like a simple Cooper test and allow all board users to submit their benchmark distance covered over the 12 minutes (baseline as 100). We can then run the test again,say, every 6 - 8 weeks and present a table of the relative change rather than the absolute change, offering those new to running to achieve better relative improvement.
Everyone will be equal to start off, and improvement will be the way to get to the top of the table, whether you start by walking for 12 minutes or cover over 3700m+ in that time.
The other advantage of getting this common baseline is that we can present a profile of the contributors and monitor the progress of the group over time - because being involved will improve performance!
Sound like something that people would view as a useful tool and way of including all?
I'm happy to administer the list, and yes your actual data will be safe with me
Sounds like a fantastic idea.. ( now what's a cooper test? Frantically spots the link and clicks)0 -
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I am relatively new to boards so apologies if this has been suggested or tried already. Similar to WBY's thread on the obsession with marathon running, I have observed a lot of discussion of very dedicated (some might say obsessive) runners and racers with frequent questions being asked by occasional and new runners. What's missing is some form of link between us all that can create the "collegiate air" across the community.
My suggestion is that we take something like a simple Cooper test and allow all board users to submit their benchmark distance covered over the 12 minutes (baseline as 100). We can then run the test again,say, every 6 - 8 weeks and present a table of the relative change rather than the absolute change, offering those new to running to achieve better relative improvement.
Everyone will be equal to start off, and improvement will be the way to get to the top of the table, whether you start by walking for 12 minutes or cover over 3700m+ in that time.
The other advantage of getting this common baseline is that we can present a profile of the contributors and monitor the progress of the group over time - because being involved will improve performance!
Sound like something that people would view as a useful tool and way of including all?
I'm happy to administer the list, and yes your actual data will be safe with me
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Sounds like fun. 12 mins flat out! Now this may be a dumb question, but is the distance approximated?! Measured how?
I would imagine heading down to the track starting on the start line from a dead start and stopping bang on 12 mins... (since it will be impossible to slow from 10mph or whatever to 0mph in a second, maybe carrying a tea bag and dropping at 12 mins on the button)... this is of course if you are not the proud owner of a high tech GPS watch which will give you your measurement to the cm!
I seem to be the only one on the start line of races without one these days
All the Limerick (and nearby areas) people could meet at the Arena track and test ourselves someday The encouragement from fellow boardsies may mean that extra 5 meters.... LOL 0 -
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Sounds like fun. 12 mins flat out! Now this may be a dumb question, but is the distance approximated?! Measured how?
I would imagine heading down to the track starting on the start line from a dead start and stopping bang on 12 mins... (since it will be impossible to slow from 10mph or whatever to 0mph in a second, maybe carrying a tea bag and dropping at 12 mins on the button)... this is of course if you are not the proud owner of a high tech GPS watch which will give you your measurement to the cm!
I seem to be the only one on the start line of races without one these days
All the Limerick (and nearby areas) people could meet at the Arena track and test ourselves someday The encouragement from fellow boardsies may mean that extra 5 meters.... LOL
If you do it on a track you only have to measure to the nearest 100metres, shouldn't be too hard to put the brakes on to get that right...0 -
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Of course Munster Gal - the distance you travel in the 12 minutes is what you are tying to improve. So if you need to start with a brisk walk, that's where you start. Only you (and recorder of result) will know the distance. Everyone else will see the relativeMunster_Gal wrote: »Might this be for all levels of fitness??
improvement without knowing the starting distance. Everyone is equal!
Have a look at the linnk in the original post which shows the category into which you will fall depending on the distance covered.0 -
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Well there seems to be some interest in at least giving it a go. All we're short now is for a few to complete the test and establish a baseline. Just to re-iterate:
(1) Select a flat course (either running track, or treadmill if you don't have GPS, or a route of your choice if you have GPS)
(2) Start running at a steady pace (one which you happy that you can keep going for the duration)
(3) Stop after 12 minutes exaclty and record the distance travelled - this becomes your baseline Cooper Test distance.
How about those interested agree to complete the test in the next 12 days (and indicate in this thread that you are going to do so, and encourage others to take part!!) so that we can publish an initial list of participants and an anonymous profile of the participants.
To get things started can you PM me with your name, sex, age category (1 - 13/14, 2 - 15/16, 3 - 17/20, 4 - 20/29, 5 - 30/39, 6 - 40/49, 7 - 50+) Distance covered.
We can then agree a suitable re-test time. I'll throw together a little spreadsheet that will allow you to record and chart your own progress.
Count me in PM sent with my details 0 -
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I'd like to join as well
I have been reading this board occasionally since I started running in September. Although I know have a good few months of running under my belt, I've had a few setbacks (dodgy knees, calf muscles etc.) and I'm still very, very slow... I've registered for the women's mini marathon, so I am know trying to increase the length of my runs more than anything.
This is a great initiative, looking forward to seeing it up and running! I will do my 12 minute run tomorrow.0 -
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Moi never, my aim is to have as high a base line as possible.In answer to your question shels, the objective is to run at a consistent pace, and yes that should be as fast a pace with which you are comfortable.
Go for it and no slacking trying to get a low baseline!;)
Will do this after marathon as its hard to fit in at the moment.0 -
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Paperripper wrote: »I'd like to join as well
I have been reading this board occasionally since I started running in September. Although I know have a good few months of running under my belt, I've had a few setbacks (dodgy knees, calf muscles etc.) and I'm still very, very slow... I've registered for the women's mini marathon, so I am know trying to increase the length of my runs more than anything.
This is a great initiative, looking forward to seeing it up and running! I will do my 12 minute run tomorrow.
Well done paperripper - prize goes to you for posting the first completed test - your baseline established - the only way is up
Let the contest begin!! Who's next??0 -
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Based on those that provided details so far the composition looks like....
Could do with some more male interest to level things up a bit.....and no representation from the 50+ brigade? Can people that age run for 12 minutes 0 -
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