Crank II & Hollywood

abouttobebanned

Okay I know this is nothing new to anyone...first film does surprisingly well...so let's do it again...but surely they've gone too far this time,I mean Dallas dream sequence too far.

Jason Statham's character died in the first one...a death that would have destroyed all of his internal organs and broken every bone in his body..but now he's back for a sequel.

Okay, I know people will say that's it's just a movie and you're supposed to suspend your disbelief...but I refuse to go along with that. The writers of the first one went to the trouble of writing a plot and making it in someway believable only for this to happen in a sequel.

With all the young and old film making talent that there is in the world it angers me to see movies like this, and dr doolittle 5 being made.

Slutmonkey57b

abouttobebanned wrote: »

The writers of the first one went to the trouble of writing a plot and making it in someway believable only for this to happen in a sequel.

What?

Did you and I watch the same film?
You are talking about the one where a guy gets injected with a magic potion that turns his blood to treacle, then goes on a massive rampage to keep his adrenaline up, and shows no ill effects from minor accidents like going over the top of a police motorbike clad only in a hospital gown, ploughing through a bunch of metal tables and chairs?

Crank 2 couldn't be more in keeping with the spirit of the original.

abouttobebanned

What I mean is, although it was over the top and far fetched etc...they kept it somewhat within the realmsof possibility. (somewhat)

Professey Chin

abouttobebanned wrote: »

What I mean is, although it was over the top and far fetched etc...they kept it somewhat within the realmsof possibility. (somewhat)

Once again.....are you thinkin of the right film?
Artificial adrenaline into the heart, massive erection while running down street in hospital gown, reading subtitles off thin air, standing on bike that doesnt slow down without throttle and then crashes, sex in middle of the street surrounded by clapping chinese people

abouttobebanned

I accept what you guys are saying but you're just picking at one point of my post for the purpose of trying to be clever.

Take for example a movie like Superman, which we know to be incredibly unrealistic, but we accept for the purpose of the movie that a man can fly...but...if he did something like turn invisible then it would be unrealistic beyond what we have been led to believe from the theology of the character.

L31mr0d

abouttobebanned wrote: »

unrealistic beyond what we have been led to believe from the theology of the character.

once again... perhaps you are talking about a different movie to the one we watched. Are you perhaps talking about "The Hours"?

Mr. Frost

abouttobebanned wrote: »

I accept what you guys are saying but you're just picking at one point of my post for the purpose of trying to be clever.

Take for example a movie like Superman, which we know to be incredibly unrealistic, but we accept for the purpose of the movie that a man can fly...but...if he did something like turn invisible then it would be unrealistic beyond what we have been led to believe from the theology of the character.

Please don't compare Superman to Chev Chelios! Supes couldn't actually fly on the planet Krypton but I'm not going into that!

Something like Superman is easier to take on board as instantly you take it as outside the realms of possibility yet it's fascinating to think of someone doing all that. A movie like 'Crank' is a very basic, yet very flawed plot. So given it's set in 'our world' you'd like to think there'll be something you can relate to...but there isn't...it's just ridiculous.

Galvasean

Crank is a lot like Shoot Em Up, acomplete over the top parody of the action genre. The whole point of such movies is to repeatedly push the emvelope in the most amazing and zany ways possible.

johnny_ultimate

I admit I can be pretty snobbish when it comes to Jason Statham films, but I ****ing loved Crank - a film of such blissful and knowing stupidity you just had to admire it. It makes no sense, but is one of the few films which manages to keep up a constant fast-pace (don't remember it letting up at all, 'cept one or two scenes with the bad dudes). I am therefore extremely enthusiastic about the sequel, as it seems to know the first plot was a load of bull****, and now throw in an extra layer of the brown stuff. And I for one admire that. I'm all for 'arthouse' and 'independent' films, but when a Hollywood film can be as ludicrously and enjoyably silly as Crank I can't help but be won over.

Crank II isn't going to make sense. It doesn't pretend to make sense. And I have my popcorn ready.

Snake Plisken

Just caught the ad on tv for Crank 2 looks as mad as the first which I thought was a lot better then Shootem up. Looks like he bangs a Grandma in this one

Otis Driftwood

Generally I steer clear of movies like this like the plague but johnny ultimate hit the nail on the head.Its pure cheese but it knows its cheese and never tries to put itself across as or market itself as anything but cheese.

Richard Dower

I thought the first film was bonkers!...in a good way, manic, but seeing Amy Smart banged on the street with a crowd around her was kinda, arousing.....

:-)

Indie18

He was dead....... but then he got better.

Indie18

Indie18 wrote: »

He was dead....... but then he got better.

He also put his hand on a waffle iron and was showing no ill-effects of it two minutes later.

It's freakin' Chev Chelios and he can do whatever the hell he wants!

But yeah, Crank has to be one of my favourite action movies - alongside Bad Boys 2. Yes, Bad Boys 2.

kaimera

I am taking a day off to go watch crank next week...I cannot bloody wait.

it whill be the movie highlight of 2009 so far for me.

and yes, bad boys 2 is an awesome mindless movie

The Don

Crank was just over the top popcorn goodness. Ridiculously enjoyable. Just go in, shut off your brain and be entertained for 1.5/2 hours. Can't wait for Crank II.

If I recall he blinks at the end, some indication that he's still alive?

Indie18

Indie18 wrote: »

He was dead....... but then he got better.

But seriously though, this is what it has on the movie poster. I mean what f**king Genius got payed to think that one up. That is enough to put me off the film right there.

Mr E

Deleted User wrote: »

It's freakin' Chev Chelios and he can do whatever the hell he wants!.

Can't wait for Crank III: Chev Chelios vs. Chuck Norris.

kaimera

Mr E wrote: »

Can't wait for Crank III: Chev Chelios vs. Chuck Norris.

but but but the world will end????

Galvasean

Deleted User wrote: »

But yeah, Crank has to be one of my favourite action movies - alongside Bad Boys 2. Yes, Bad Boys 2.

Not a thing wrong with that.

Richard Dower

When is it playing over here?

X-Calibre

Indie18 wrote: »

But seriously though, this is what it has on the movie poster. I mean what f**king Genius got payed to think that one up. That is enough to put me off the film right there.

I think you're missing the point here... The tagline is blatantly taking the piss out of the movie. It fits in with the whole idea of the film being completely ridiculous.

Personally cannot wait to see this, the first one was perfect

johnny_ultimate

Richard Dower wrote: »

When is it playing over here?

Out next Thursday or Friday (Thursday in Cineworld anyway).

Also on the topic of absurdity, I'm surprised the final scene of part one hasn't been mentioned yet. You know

the one where he makes a prolonged phone call while falling from a helicopter

. If we're talking science here, that is far more ludicrous then replacing someones heart with an electrical one.

Shryke

The first was brilliant and this one looks just as good. Tongue in cheek and loads of fun!

Brimmy

OP I really don't think you got the point of the first film (or the second for that matter as an extension of that).

It knows its terrible and revels in that. It never pertains to be something different and is just complete mindless ENTERTAINMENT. It's not meant to be a serious or thought invoking film, it's a parody and collection of everything that is wrong (and by proxy, great) of action films.

Crank was one of my favourite films of the year and the most fun I've ever had in watching a film. I'd probably put it up on my top 10 of all time, along with the Godfather, Godfather 2, Synecdoche and many other serious films.

For what it attempted to gain Crank was essentially a perfect film. If Crank 2 is half as good as it it will be completely worth it.

Crank is one of my top 5 fims of all time. When I began my film and tv college degree last september we were all required to write about our 5 favourite films of all time, when I read out Crank I was greeted with a chorus of laughter and told that I "did not deserve my place if I though Crank was a good film". I proceeded to take my seat and listen to the vast majority of my class mates rhyme off their top fives all of which seemed to have been copy and pasted from Film 101.

The point of my story, one should never be ashamed of the films they enjoy. Next thursday is a big day for me, I all ready have my tickets for Crank 2 booked and my gf has repeatedly joked that I must have a thing for Jason Statham as our first proper date involved going to see Transporter 3 and our next involved me making ehr watch Death Race, Crank and Transporter 1 and 2 back to back. When I recently discovered that her friends bf not only worked with Statham but was friendly with the great man, well I damn near sang out loud.

Sorry about that odd post, been a long day.

The ending of Crank left the door open for a sequel. We never actualy see Chev die, his blink at the end is an indication that he is still alive. Surely anyoen who watched the film from the beginning cannot be complaining the suspension of disbelief need. The entire film defies logic, look at the buildings which pulsate. Crank is an unashamedly old school action film for guys.

Mr. Frost

Deleted User wrote: »

We never actualy see Chev die, his blink at the end is an indication that he is still alive. Surely anyoen who watched the film from the beginning cannot be complaining the suspension of disbelief need. The entire film defies logic, look at the buildings which pulsate. Crank is an unashamedly old school action film for guys.

Or more likely it was a twitch caused by severe trauma!

Seriously though it is a fun film but I wouldn't say it's necessarily an old school action flick though. Old school in it's simplicity and absurdity yes but..

Mr. Frost

Mr. Frost wrote: »

Or more likely it was a twitch caused by severe trauma!

Seriously though it is a fun film but I wouldn't say it's necessarily an old school action flick though. Old school in it's simplicity and absurdity yes but..

In recent years only 4 films are what I would classify as old school action films, Shoot Em Up, Rambo, Shooter and Crank.

Crank may be far more elaborate than Commando (A true Hollywood classic) it still retains that essence of stupid yet brilliant. Crank 2 just looks insane, old woman loving, shotgun to the anus, copious amounts of electricity applied to body parts. Call me excited.

Mr E

Mr E wrote: »

Can't wait for Crank III: Chev Chelios vs. Chuck Norris.

You're also forgetting Crank IV: Chev Chelios vs. Chev Chelios

indough

i was of the understanding that it was supposed to be like a video game ie totally over the top, unbelieveably violent and with a character who is pretty much invincible, like gta for example

watch the movie again its got many references to games in it such as space invaders symbols, the main character pretending to be a games designer amongst others

kaimera

tick tock..going to the 2120 showing tonight and I cannot frackin' wait!

it whill be awesome

God damned stupid half assed excuse for a cinema at home doesn't have Crank tonight. Why God, why must you torture me like this.

kaimera

Deleted User wrote: »

God damned stupid half assed excuse for a cinema at home doesn't have Crank tonight. Why God, why must you torture me like this.

Deleted User wrote:

Next thursday is a big day for me, I all ready have my tickets for Crank 2 booked

fail ?

kaimera

kaimera wrote: »

fail ?

I have them booked nad paid for in Galway but I had to head home due to unforseen events.

kaimera

Deleted User wrote: »

I have them booked nad paid for in Galway but I had to head home due to unforseen events.

and crap

shame

kaimera

kaimera wrote: »

and crap

shame

I know, I'm a massive Statham fan and count Crank as an all time favourite. Saddest thing is that I offered the tickets to about a dozen people and not one of them would go see "Trash liek that".

kaimera

Deleted User wrote: »

I know, I'm a massive Statham fan and count Crank as an all time favourite. Saddest thing is that I offered the tickets to about a dozen people and not one of them would go see "Trash liek that".

tell me about it...i tried to get peeps from work to go and i got replies from "saw the trailer..retarded looking" to only an idiot would go see it"

I am totally getting a C:HV tshirt to piss them off

johnny_ultimate

Leaving in a few minutes for this ****.
I might even buy popcorn.

*Simone*

A friend of mine wittily texted me last Sunday;

"He was dead. But then he got better. Happy Easter "

Wonder if the distributors purposely chose that timing

mike65

As it happens Crank has just started on ITV4 or in an hour on IT4 +1

johnny_ultimate

Just back and actually pretty disappointed. There are some brilliantly ludicrous moments to go along with the first one

(latex punctures, nipple cutting, racetrack dogging, 'sushi')

but it just can't keep the pace up like the first one did. Some moments completely break the momentum

(a talkshow with Geri Halliwell??? Seriously?)

and the casual racism has been turned up well past the point of it being funny. Also the front row in the cinema was filled with drunken idiots who kept shouting nonsense and hooting everytime a woman came on the screen.

That said, it is still fun, and the ending was pleasantly silly, what with the

head in a jar

and so on. And I think there'll be a Crank 3 alright (the ending suggests they'll have to go more ridiculous again). But it ain't a patch on the first one.

kaimera

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Just back and actually pretty disappointed. There are some brilliantly ludicrous moments to go along with the first one

(latex punctures, nipple cutting, racetrack dogging, 'sushi')

but it just can't keep the pace up like the first one did. Some moments completely break the momentum

(a talkshow with Geri Halliwell??? Seriously?)

and the casual racism has been turned up well past the point of it being funny. Also the front row in the cinema was filled with drunken idiots who kept shouting nonsense and hooting everytime a woman came on the screen.

That said, it is still fun, and the ending was pleasantly silly, what with the

head in a jar

and so on. And I think there'll be a Crank 3 alright (the ending suggests they'll have to go more ridiculous again). But it ain't a patch on the first one.

I take it you were in cineworld @ 9.20 Johnny?

wrt Crank: HV

Awesome, really loved it. From the computer game style opening to the ott ending, awesome.

If you didn't like crank, stay away tbh

also no kids or oaps

Amy Smart is my woman of 2009

@johnny; ya we did..they got thrown out with 10mins to go. fail.

I need a second viewing before I do a film reviews thread.

abouttobebanned

meh.

johnny_ultimate

kaimera wrote: »

I take it you were in cineworld @ 9.20 Johnny?

Nope IMC Dun Laoghaire at 9.15. You have drunken yelpers too?
I do agree with your sentiments on Amy Smart however, despite my overall disappointment.

Peteee

It was awesome. Thats all to be said about it.

Hilarious in parts and totally off the wall and over the top.

If you liked Crank you'll love this.

CyberWaste

WHen I originally saw the case for crank 1 in xtravision, I thought it was just another gangster film, what with the main actor and all, but after reading this, I have to see it soon.

deathstarkiller

I personally think 'He was dead....but he got better' is a brilliant tagline.

Just back from it now and I absolutly loved it. Easily the most enjoyable film going experience I have had since the first one. It was so over the top and balls to the wall brilliant that I cannot wait to see it again.

My only gripe seems to have been shared by many other boardsies, some people have no respect for others cinema going experience. People kept having small conversations with each other and I had to on a number of ocassions ask them to save the commentary as I was sure the DVD release would have one. The worst though was a woman in her mid to late 20s who came in 10 minutes after the film had started and sat behind me. She spent the first ten minutes complaining to her bf about how unrealistic it was and proceed to comment at every given opportunity. I asked her several times to be quiet and when she snidely replied "I can see the level of intelligence it takes to watch this trash" I informed her that she too had paid to see it and any film with the tag line "He was dead....but he got better" obviously was'nt to be taken seriosuly. She kept her mouth shut till the film was over at which stage she began lecturing me on her right to speak when and where she wanted. I thought I got a nice little dig in with my answer, "If I wanted your opinion I would give it to you". She was not happy.

Also can cinemas stop bringing up the lights and sending staff in to clean till the credits are over. It's annoying enough when you want to see a name in the credits but when a film has additional scenes during the credits it's damned annoying.

Acacia

nedtheshed wrote: »

Its pure cheese but it knows its cheese and never tries to put itself across as or market itself as anything but cheese.

I don't know if that's a good thing though. To me, it's a bit, I don't know, lazy or something. Like ''We couldn't be bothered to write a decent storyline, or characters, so let's throw in some utterly random violence and sex... " Nothing wrong with that, I suppose it's aiming for a certain demographic. I just can't help but feel it's insulting my intelligence in some way. Kind of like those teen comedies which use the same characters over and over again (nerd,jock, token black guy) and fart/ dick jokes instead of writing something original.

Well, if that's what people enjoy, go for it, but personally I just can't watch a film that requires me to essentially shut my brain off for two hours. I just don't find it enjoyable.

So, yeah, I'll be giving Crank 2 a miss (I was dragged to watch the first one a few years ago).

The_Bullman

Peteee wrote: »

If you liked Crank you'll love this.

I loved crank. Didn't much like this. It was too over the top to work. Pacing wasn't as good either.

Still some good moments. But as a movie it didn't work.

BLITZ_Molloy

What's good about Crank is it doesn't pretend to be clever. It's unappologetic. For the last 20 years there have been far too many retarded action movies masquerading as something deep and intelligent that can be spun out into sequels and prequels and trilogies. Every time a new one comes along the directors doing interviews crapping on about the film universe, and where he wants to take the characters. When its really just another movie with lots of gun fights, car chases and explosions.

The world of Crank is obviously not real. It's some sort of videogame type alternative reality, without dull, plodding Matrix mythology to justify it all.

Crank is a throwback to cheap exploitation cinema and action b movies. Kind of what Grindhouse was meant to be.

I found High Voltage very entertaining for the first half but somehow the set pieces and momentum seemed to flag quite alot towards the end. It just didn't have that effortlessness the first movie had. The death sequence was borderline too ridiculous. The fire effect was like badly digitised sprites from a mid-90s lightgun game. It's hard to criticise it though. It'd struggle to see where they could push the concept further. It's pretty hard to shock or surprise an audience that have seen 2 Girls 1 Cup. There really aren't many people left to offend or taboos to breach.