cigarettes

PrideandLuna

How much have cigarettes gone up to?

Ron DMC

PrideandLuna wrote: »

How much have cigarettes gone up to?

Extra 25c

Orion

Idiots. I'm heading up North this weekend to buy a months supply.

is that inc tax,so €10?

Im off to spain to buy a years supply,**** em.

djsupreme

The excise on fags is increasing by 25% - but what is the current excise? 6 euro?

PrideandLuna

:eek: €10 Time to give up

Ron DMC

djsupreme wrote: »

The excise on fags is increasing by 25% - but what is the current excise? 6 euro?

Not 25%, twenty five cents. Lenner can't read properly.

jenzz

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Not 25%, twenty five cents. Lenner can't read properly.

If the excise is going up 25% is that not 25% of €8 or 25% of whatever the current excise is ??

Somehow dont see us getting away with a 25c increase

Ellie The Mess

Does it mean that the taxation on them goes from 21% to 25% or does it mean that we'll have to pay 10 euro a pack?

I'm already bookin the ticket to go to Italy and get a stock...

Ronny Mitchell

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Not 25%, twenty five cents. Lenner can't read properly.

He said 25%,wouldnt surprise me.

Increase sales for the north now :rolleyes: this government haven't a clue.

Ron DMC

Nayeli Tinkling Sludge wrote: »

He said 25%,wouldnt surprise me.

Actually, my bad, it seems the official reports are reading it as 25% increase on the excise, which is about 10% overall cost increase. Wouldn't blame you going abroad otherwise.

JennyAnt

So how much exactly will a pack cost?? 25c more or 25% more?

JennyAnt

JennyAnt wrote: »

So how much exactly will a pack cost?? 25c more or 25% more?

8.80?

Xavi6

JennyAnt wrote: »

So how much exactly will a pack cost?? 25c more or 25% more?

10% more

nice_guy80

should have put them up by €5 a pack

PrideandLuna

Xavi6 wrote: »

10% more

So €8.80 ish not to bad I suppose :rolleyes:

Ellie The Mess

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Actually, my bad, it seems the official reports are reading it as 25% increase on the excise, which is about 10% overall cost increase. Wouldn't blame you going abroad otherwise.

So, for a pack of Marlboro Light Ill have to spend (8,15*10%)+8,15=8,90...Am I gettin it right?

Ellie The Mess

RTE1 title reads: "Cigarettes up by 25c"....confused

Well whatever it is it's too much...

timmywex

25 cent according to department of finance website

nice_guy80

nice_guy80 wrote: »

should have put them up by €5 a pack

Just because you dont smoke doesnt give you the right to get up on your moral high horse.Its an addiction you clown.

Gaillimh1990

gr8 more money!! not that were arnt payn enoug already! :mad::mad: vote fine gael#1

Rb

In terms of retention, an extra 25c and 50c would pretty much be the same, wouldn't it?

eVeNtInE

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Kimbot

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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That says cent does it not mate?

oscarBravo

eVeNtInE wrote: »

It's showing 25% on this government page.

Nope:

The Excise Duty on a packet of 20 cigarettes will be increased by 25 cent (including VAT) with a pro-rata increase on other tobacco products, with effect from midnight on 7 April 2009.

Rb

jonny24ie wrote: »

That says cent does it not mate?

It does indeed.

eVeNtInE

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Dannyboy83

I gave up 6 weeks ago, after years smoking, in expectation of this lads.
You can do it too.

If your not a complete windbag, then make a protest and give them up.

McConkey

Probably just changed it on website...I heard 25% increase from current excise rate but RTE have just said its 25c and not 25% onto excise

mandandpeter

well when we rewound it on RTE with Sky+ it did say 25% but i am sure it will eventually get sorted out and the correct figure will be known.


Just looked now!! Now its says 25 cent *cries* my head is spininning!

K4t

Lenihan said 25% I think he meant 25 cent. He's not that thick I hope.

Sierra Oscar

mandandpeter wrote: »

well when we rewound it on RTE with Sky+ it did say 25% but i am sure it will eventually get sorted out and the correct figure will be known.


Just looked now!! Now its says 25 cent *cries* my head is spininning!

He said 25%, his own documentation clearly states 25 C. He misread it, simple as.

seanybiker

meh thats not to bad. Woo can still smoke

damoz

If you want to save 100% then stop smoking. Will also save long term medical costs for the state.

Sierra Oscar

damoz wrote: »

If you want to save 100% then stop smoking. Will also save long term medical costs for the state.

Meh no, revenue will fall in the shortfall making things worse. Woo!

Gaillimh1990

mandandpeter wrote: »

well when we rewound it on RTE with Sky+ it did say 25% but i am sure it will eventually get sorted out and the correct figure will be known.


Just looked now!! Now its says 25 cent *cries* my head is spininning!

hi guys....


it sed on rte that he read it wrong it is 25cent instead of 25percent!!!

siobhan.murphy

how much 4 them in France?

com on lads help!Im off there tomorrow!!yeah now shagg off budget!
I will be quitting when I come back
*cough*!

robgloster

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

He said 25%, his own documentation clearly states 25 C. He misread it, simple as.

Sad day when the Minister doesn't know what going on. But lately i suppose that kinda common

_feedback_

damoz wrote: »

If you want to save 100% then stop smoking. Will also save long term medical costs for the state.

Give it a rest will ya

Oracle

After watching the Prime Time special on illegal cigarette sales, I'm surprised he put them up at all. Seems like they're available in every country town market and boot sale for a few quid a pack. The customs guy who was interviewed said the courts couldn't cope if they prosecuted everyone involved. So looks like the "dodgy fags from the back of a lorry" racket is not gonna end any time soon. I suppose that could be considered good or bad depending on your point of view.

Also is there a doublethink going on here. For example, Lenihan says he can't put up alcohol and petrol because of the real fear of people going cross-border to buy them. Yet the item with the potentially biggest savings for consumers when bought cross-border, he feels free to put extra tax on, that seems strange?

Also his logic does not make sense, who buys petrol up north any more? The savings are almost nil. While alcohol is cheaper there, it's at it's cheapest ever price in supermarkets in the Republic. Plus cigarettes are the most vulnerable of the three to cross-border purchasing; they're light, portable, take up very little space and have a very long shelf life.

TheKat

I love that the thread on cigarettes has one of the most replies in the forum already! I wonder did Lenihan misread it on purpose to give smokers a mini heart attack.

damoz

elviscostello wrote: »

Give it a rest will ya

Ok. I'll throw in a tax break on Hypnotherapy. Happy?

Resi12

A friend told me there going up to 10.12..
We knew about it going up to 10 for a whiole though.

I really think it'll be 25%

oscarBravo

Let's keep this thread about the budget, k? There's a whole forum about quitting smoking.

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damoz wrote: »

Ok. I'll throw in a tax break on Hypnotherapy. Happy?

Throw in a break from your high horse preaching and I'll be happy.

damoz

elviscostello wrote: »

Throw in a break from your high horse preaching and I'll be happy.

Former smokers are the worst its true.

Back on topic - its 25c in the budget speech text.

K4t

damoz wrote: »

If you want to save 100% then stop smoking. Will also save long term medical costs for the state.

elviscostello wrote: »

Give it a rest will ya

damoz is right. Keep living in denial. :rolleyes:

Sierra Oscar

Resi12 wrote: »

A friend told me there going up to 10.12..
We knew about it going up to 10 for a whiole though.

I really think it'll be 25%

Well its not - jeezz. Mods, can we have a sticky on the following?

Financial Statement

of the

Minister for Finance

Mr Brian Lenihan, T.D.

7 April 2009

Excise

From midnight tonight, excises on cigarettes will go up by 25 cent per packet of 20 and on auto-diesel by 5 cent per litre. These excise changes are VAT inclusive. There is no scope for increases in excise duties on alcohol or petrol because of the substantial risk of loss of revenue by the purchase of these items in Northern Ireland.

Full details of all of these and other taxation measures are contained in the Summary of Budget measures. The total tax and levies measures will raise €1.8 billion in 2009 and over €3.6 billion in a full year.

The measures I have outlined have necessarily concentrated on income. I am now giving notice that, in 2010 and 2011, I will turn to other areas of taxation to achieve the necessary adjustment in later years.

Summary of Supplementary Budget Measures - Policy Changes

Tobacco Excise

The Excise Duty on a packet of 20 cigarettes will be increased by 25 cent (including VAT) with a pro-rata increase on other tobacco products, with effect from midnight on 7 April 2009.

Resi12

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Well its not - jeeze, do we have to repeat this over and over? Mods, can we have a sticky on the following?

Financial Statement

of the

Minister for Finance

Mr Brian Lenihan, T.D.

7 April 2009



Summary of Supplementary Budget Measures - Policy Changes

Oh well another what they did wrong to add to my list.

tfitzgerald

25 cents that makes 20 rothmans around €8and 30cent i went to barcelona last week with ryan air return for €40 (myself and the wife) we bought some cigs the same brand rothmans are €2.80 for 20 . you have to buy them in the tobacco shops and these are closed on sunday in the duty free at gerona they were €3.36 for 20