Budget April 2009 as it happens.

holmyster

10 minutes to go before the budget. Lets keep everyone up to date on what's happening.

Orion

Interesting already - TD's can't leave the chamber with a copy of the budget speech. All parties are going mad over this.

Peyton Manning

Lots of drama over the press getting copies of the budget statement.

TouchingVirus

Apparently the press had copies of the Budget statement before the members of the Dail :eek:

Chaos in the Dail now

TouchingVirus

Macros42 wrote: »

Interesting already - TD's can't leave the chamber with a copy of the budget speech. All parties are going mad over this.

Nope, that's always been the case. Apparently the press had copies in advance, or that's the impression I get

NewFrockTuesday

I dont have access to tv so keep it coming! Thanks!

LostinBlanch

Talk about a clusterf**k.

They're trying to lock the TDs in the chamber to stop them walking out with the speech. While reporters can.

Labour and FG are rightly up in arms.

Dr Galen

it's gonna get nasty. You can see it already.

Anyone think that there is an outside chance that this might not actually get passed

TouchingVirus

LostinBlanch wrote: »

Talk about a clusterf**k.

They're trying to lock the TDs in the chamber to stop them walking out with the speech. While reporters can.

Labour and FG are rightly up in arms.

+1

Dr Galen

O'Reilly is gonna lose it!

joeystrider

Oh my this is ridiculous!

Richard Dower

WAR!....these guys are a shower of muppets, utter disgrace they are!

brianwalshcork

Deepsense wrote: »

I dont have access to tv so keep it coming! Thanks!

Deepsense, join the fun here:
http://www.rte.ie/live/?news

Sounds like it might all be called off if they don't calm down!

RedXIV

Did not see this coming. Brian Cowen trying to get to talk about his cuts

Orion

Ceann Comhairle has threatened to suspend the session

[edit]Damn - he's started the speech - pity - would have been hilarious

Kotek Besar

They're all going mad..
http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/DailFlash512KB.htm

NewFrockTuesday

No sound on laptop and IT lockdown. I cant have access to any of it.

Thanks anyway.

Flyer1

Children all calming down a bit now....

General Election !!

Richard Dower

The guy with the bell is a patsy, he's just a dog who follows the governments will.

Peyton Manning

lol thats it Lenihan, blame it on the Brits :P

TouchingVirus

Flash Player Stream

http://oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/DailFlash512KB.htm

NewFrockTuesday

Gottit! Excellent! Thank you! And subtitles....you genius you!

joeystrider

Did you hear that it is almost entirely the rest of the world, particularly the brits who are to blame...

What about bankers and corruption in developments?

Richard Dower

It's a doom & gloom speech!

TouchingVirus

joeystrider wrote: »

Did you hear that it is almost entirely the rest of the world, particularly the brits who are to blame...

What about bankers and corruption in developments?

Aye, it got a brief mention despite ****ing all of us over as much if not more than anything else he's mentioned

cornbb

All I'm getting from the speech so far is arrogance. Really. A complete refusal to accept any sort of responsibility for the housing bubble. The government have no hope of gaining broad support for this budget with this attitude. If they would just acknowledge and apologise for some of their mistakes they would have a far easier side rallying people together.

joeystrider

joeystrider wrote: »

Did you hear that it is almost entirely the rest of the world, particularly the brits who are to blame...

What about bankers and corruption in developments?

Is Lenihan living on this planet ??? what a muppet :rolleyes:

Villain

Starting with the Cuts to Politicians to try and get the early headlines looking positive!

I'm worried about whats coming next

TouchingVirus

Tax increases are forthcoming

Sierra Oscar

Should be interesting to see what the review suggests.

Villain

Levies up and up with new bands

Nody

cornbb wrote: »

If they would just acknowledge and apologise for some of their mistakes they would have a far easier side rallying people together.

And have it thrown in their face in the next election? No way; they will continue to blame everyone else including the opposition and Chutlu until the sun dies down. Now once they are elected again they MIGHT admit a very minor part of the guilt and then quickly point out how the opposition are so much more guilty though.

holmyster

No reduction in unemployment benefit.

ibarelycare

Income levy up to 50k 2%
50k to 300k 4%
Over 300k 9%

TouchingVirus

HEAnet (the streamers) are currently putting through over 4gigsbits/second ..awesome!

joeystrider

Villain wrote: »

Starting with the Cuts to Politicians to try and get the early headlines looking positive!

I'm worried about whats coming next

Same here...

Flyer1

+1

Villain

1.5bn in cuts 1.8bn in extra revenue,

They have bottled it, we are screwed

Aidric

Good to see he got rid of that ridiculous allowance former teachers got.

yop

I dont get the levy.

is that 2% on top of the 1% ???

He mentioned 1500 euro per year, who is paying that??? Sorry!

Owen

Thanks for the streaming link, at work with no TV. Frightening stuff.

Villain

Tax on Child benefit and Property tax to come next year

PCros

yop wrote: »

I dont get the levy.

is that 2% on top of the 1% ???

He mentioned 1500 euro per year, who is paying that??? Sorry!

€50,000+ earners...

Owen

Carbon tax ... here we go.

ibarelycare

yop wrote: »

I dont get the levy.

is that 2% on top of the 1% ???

He mentioned 1500 euro per year, who is paying that??? Sorry!

It's gone up to 2% afaik? Trying to hear TV in my boss' office

Sierra Oscar

Villain wrote: »

Tax on Child benefit and Property tax to come next year

A tax? Why dont they just reduce the Child Benefit?

TouchingVirus

yop wrote: »

I dont get the levy.

is that 2% on top of the 1% ???

He mentioned 1500 euro per year, who is paying that??? Sorry!

It's 2% instead of the 1%, and so on, it's not on top of the 1%

poindexter

http://asx.heanet.ie/oireachtas/dail_broadband.asx

scargill

yop wrote: »

I dont get the levy.

is that 2% on top of the 1% ???

He mentioned 1500 euro per year, who is paying that??? Sorry!

I think he meant that people on 50k would pay an additional 1500 per. their levy increases from 1% to 4%

50,000 @ 1% = 500
50,000 @ 4% = 2000

is this what he meant ?

ouch ouch ouch

TouchingVirus

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

A tax? Why dont they just reduce the Child Benefit?

I think they're trying to get it in under the radar, I agree in that they should just reduce it