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French Foreign Legion, anybody?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    concussion wrote: »
    It's probably been mentioned already, by 'Legionnaire' by Simon Murray is fantastic read. Outdated now is its a collection of his diaries from the 1960's but a tremendous story.

    Agreed. Finished it recently. It's a very nostalgic look at a different world, and his book reads as an excellent tradition from the first half of the twentieth century to the modern world. It would make an excellent novel were it not true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    djhunter30 wrote: »
    I'll try and get my hands on it then if possible. I'm sure the book doesn't paint the legion in a good light or you wouldn't have suggested it. Well I'm open to reasoning.

    Ye primarily negative but it's 5 years so u want to be pretty sure. I'm not tryin to put u off joining r anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 denniss


    just go for it i did 5 years ages ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Teangalad


    Think the book is called "Hidden Soldier", by Padraig O'Keefe.

    Great Book!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    denniss wrote: »
    just go for it i did 5 years ages ago

    Bull****ter of the year unless we get more info...

    Does re-cycling ring a bell?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    00Blaine00 wrote: »
    Anyone ever thought of joining the French Foreign Legion?

    I know most people who join come from less well off countries, or those who want to forget their past and the Legion seems like their last and only option, but I also know there are some people out there who simply join for the adventure and experience!

    So the question is.. Is anyone out there considering running away and taking the step that few men dare to even dream about?
    Yes, Corkman Padraig O'Keefe's Hidden Soldier might help you to get an insight.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Picked up "Legionnaire" by Simon Murray the other day. He kept a diary from the first day to his last in the Legion. What I have read of it so far id very good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    I read Padraig O Keeffe's book. He actually didn't serve the full 5 years in the legion. He got out early because of disillusionment. He reckoned it was losing its values. There is supposedly a shift in emphasis within the French military since the ending of conscription.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    im after watching escape to the legion with bear grylls on youtube, jaazus no way hozay ! and im tough enough !!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    the legion isnt as tough as it use to be. heard the royal marines are tougher. i spent 1 week in paris and 2 in aubagne during selection. met a lad from dublin who left basic training saying he didnt feel like staying so they let him go. he had to stay around for a week for them to finish the paper work.
    theres a good chance of getting in if your irish cause they try and balance the nationalities


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Legion1


    paky wrote: »
    the legion isnt as tough as it use to be. heard the royal marines are tougher. i spent 1 week in paris and 2 in aubagne during selection. met a lad from dublin who left basic training saying he didnt feel like staying so they let him go. he had to stay around for a week for them to finish the paper work.
    theres a good chance of getting in if your irish cause they try and balance the nationalities

    I hope so, going to try out myself soon. Anyone else heading over this year?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    Legion1 wrote: »
    I hope so, going to try out myself soon. Anyone else heading over this year?

    how old are you? maybe i can give you some tips?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Legion1


    paky wrote: »
    how old are you? maybe i can give you some tips?

    28, work away cheers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭byebye


    paky wrote: »
    how old are you? maybe i can give you some tips?

    i'd love to hear the tips too! headin over in sep!! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    byebye wrote: »
    i'd love to hear the tips too! headin over in sep!! :)

    your best bet is to go straight to aubagne. this will cut 1 week off selection. the less time you have to spend at selection the better, its boaring as fcuk and consists of hanging around an excercise yard smoking cigerettes with all sorts of scum. your standard of fitness should be pretty good. be able to do a minimum of 7-10 pull ups palms facing out. just like any other army you should be able to run a mile and half in watever time. it would be a help if you can run further and longer. while at selection dont eat all the food your given, your fitness may suffer TRUST ME! your given a s.hit load of food, cakes, pastries, pizza, cheese and its all pretty good. but theres a reason they give you all that food, you'll know when you start basic training! dont join on a weekend, best bet is a monday, cause theyve no selection on a weekend. as for contact with the outside, forget it. if your dead keen on going expect not to speak to family for at least 4 months, no calls, letters, no going home. freedom is pretty restricted for the first year. the legionaires i spoke to said its like a 9-4 job after the first initial year and weekends off! class if your in France, not so class if your in Afghanistan. choose a regiment you want to go too, theyll ask this question a couple of times while your there to see if your keen. as for trades and specialist jobs, you need to be a legionaire for 2 years before you can do this. the pay is pretty good. considering your freedom is restricted for the first year, try and get a foreign posting in south america or africa. the best pay is there and you wont spend a penny. expect to earn nearly 3000 a month in these places.
    any other questions just ask


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Legion1


    paky wrote: »
    your best bet is to go straight to aubagne. this will cut 1 week off selection. the less time you have to spend at selection the better, its boaring as fcuk and consists of hanging around an excercise yard smoking cigerettes with all sorts of scum. your standard of fitness should be pretty good. be able to do a minimum of 7-10 pull ups palms facing out. just like any other army you should be able to run a mile and half in watever time. it would be a help if you can run further and longer. while at selection dont eat all the food your given, your fitness may suffer TRUST ME! your given a s.hit load of food, cakes, pastries, pizza, cheese and its all pretty good. but theres a reason they give you all that food, you'll know when you start basic training! dont join on a weekend, best bet is a monday, cause theyve no selection on a weekend. as for contact with the outside, forget it. if your dead keen on going expect not to speak to family for at least 4 months, no calls, letters, no going home. freedom is pretty restricted for the first year. the legionaires i spoke to said its like a 9-4 job after the first initial year and weekends off! class if your in France, not so class if your in Afghanistan. choose a regiment you want to go too, theyll ask this question a couple of times while your there to see if your keen. as for trades and specialist jobs, you need to be a legionaire for 2 years before you can do this. the pay is pretty good. considering your freedom is restricted for the first year, try and get a foreign posting in south america or africa. the best pay is there and you wont spend a penny. expect to earn nearly 3000 a month in these places.
    any other questions just ask

    Nice one, thanks for that, thats my plan, on a Monday morn straight to Aubagne. Heading soon, could spend more time on fitness but figure what the hell, might just get an inapt come back in 3 months etc. From what I've heard fitness is not that important, its more you motivation personality and history, did you find that was the case or just those who aced the sports tests?


  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭byebye


    did you do the interviews with the "gestapo" if so what kind of questions were asked?

    cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Legion1 wrote: »
    Nice one, thanks for that, thats my plan, on a Monday morn straight to Aubagne. Heading soon, could spend more time on fitness but figure what the hell, might just get an inapt come back in 3 months etc. From what I've heard fitness is not that important, its more you motivation personality and history, did you find that was the case or just those who aced the sports tests?

    Can I ask why you're joining the Legion? I've heard more bad things about them than good! Would the British Army not be a safer opinion for you?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    Legion1 wrote: »
    Nice one, thanks for that, thats my plan, on a Monday morn straight to Aubagne. Heading soon, could spend more time on fitness but figure what the hell, might just get an inapt come back in 3 months etc. From what I've heard fitness is not that important, its more you motivation personality and history, did you find that was the case or just those who aced the sports tests?

    your best off worken on your fitness. its not that easy to get in. 1 in 12 pass selection.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Can I ask why you're joining the Legion? I've heard more bad things about them than good! Would the British Army not be a safer opinion for you?

    how can going to afghanistan be considered safe?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Legion1


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Can I ask why you're joining the Legion? I've heard more bad things about them than good! Would the British Army not be a safer opinion for you?

    I'm not joining, I'm going over to see if I can make it in. If I happen to make it in then I'll put some thought into it, as far as I'm aware I've a few months to make my mind up. I've been through the whole British Army thing, med cleared and so on, waiting for selection. Its a case of which ever comes first.

    Cheers Paky working on it everyday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Tubsandtiles


    @Legion1-Best of luck with whatever you do, not that I have ever been in the Legion or whatever but you would want to get your fitness up to a high level for when you decide to give it ago. I dont know if its one of your aspirations in life to be in the legion but regiments like the Paras or Royal Marines Commando which is the longest basic recruit training course in the world would be a thousand times better, with great chances with numerous courses and promotion. If you are that keen on being in the military check out the Royal Marines but dont be disillusioned as it takes a high level of fitness to get a date for your recruit training. I am going to be honest and say I dont know why the hell you would want to be in the Legion when there are alot better payed and trained regiments in Britain eg the Marines. I dont know if anyone can clarify but the Legion is full of scum and criminals ?, last thing I would want was to be bu****d by some rapist who decided to join up to the Legion. Give the Marines a look into if your really serious about a life in the military and seeing as your a Banner man like myself, best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    @Legion1-Best of luck with whatever you do, not that I have ever been in the Legion or whatever but you would want to get your fitness up to a high level for when you decide to give it ago. I dont know if its one of your aspirations in life to be in the legion but regiments like the Paras or Royal Marines Commando which is the longest basic recruit training course in the world would be a thousand times better, with great chances with numerous courses and promotion. If you are that keen on being in the military check out the Royal Marines but dont be disillusioned as it takes a high level of fitness to get a date for your recruit training. I am going to be honest and say I dont know why the hell you would want to be in the Legion when there are alot better payed and trained regiments in Britain eg the Marines. I dont know if anyone can clarify but the Legion is full of scum and criminals ?, last thing I would want was to be bu****d by some rapist who decided to join up to the Legion. Give the Marines a look into if your really serious about a life in the military and seeing as your a Banner man like myself, best of luck.

    You start off by saying you've never been in the Legion, then go onto say that the Para's or the RMC are a thousand times better. Am I missing something there?

    The days of the Legion being populated by criminals are long, long gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    OK, admission up front.


    I have only read the last page.

    Bloody jokers IMHO, certainly nothing from the horses mouth...

    The pay is crap, you will spend sleeping time learning the language,

    Tossed into no win situs, etc

    pass on that TBH

    Australia has far more prospects.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Fishtits wrote: »
    Australia has far more prospects.

    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Tubsandtiles


    I am just saying the Royal Marines are better equipped and trained, with incredible fitness standards, as I stated I was never in the Legion but have a friend who joined straight after the leaving cert who went on later to join the Royal Marines after leaving the Legion. He said the Royal Marines as I stated were respected more, had better training and a level of fitness that was incredibly high. Since I have never served in both Im only giving my accounts of what i have heard from a friend in the military, he said the legion was tough but never as hard as his Royal Marine recruit training, stating you spent more time trying to learn and understand French in your head than coming to grips that you were training also to be a soldier :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 liamm7786


    can a criminal still join the legion


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Drexl Spivey


    The very fact that you sign up for 5 years minimum is what separates the French Foreign Legion from the rest. I've seen a documentary on US Navy Seals training and some of them were going home at night after class, mentally it is a different ball game when you are suddenly facing 5 years of being cut from society.

    Along the lines of "not as tough as", you also have to consider where in the legion you gonna end up. If you are not that great physically you gonna end up being a cook or something. If you are up for it they will send you to train with the best (2 REP assault troups.


    Check out CECAP stage commando (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cecap+legion&sm=3)

    And keep in mind the conditions when you see them running: 50 degrees Celcius, 80% humidity, lack of sleep, ... all of a sudden it makes it tough to run :)


    A fb page in english:
    https://www.facebook.com/frenchforeignlegion

    2e REP:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IMJJhUR24


    They don't do a lot of retreating in the FFL: Camaron, Dien Bien Phu, .. and when they went to Kolwezi or Iraq, they sure made an impact.

    Like in other armies, if you are the best of the best you gonna end up in a specialized job (combat divers, ..), if you are not up for it mentally, phisically, skill wise, .. they won't send you to the elite troops, but you are still going to be a Legionnaire, and that's not bad!

    paky wrote: »
    the legion isn't as tough as it use to be. heard the royal marines are tougher. i spent 1 week in paris and 2 in aubagne during selection. met a lad from dublin who left basic training saying he didn't feel like staying so they let him go. he had to stay around for a week for them to finish the paper work.
    theres a good chance of getting in if your irish cause they try and balance the nationalities


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Bore off mate. I'm not sitting here listening to someone can slate Navy seals compared to the legion, having served with neither but having watched a few documentaries.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Drexl Spivey


    discus wrote: »
    Bore off mate. I'm not sitting here listening to someone can slate Navy seals compared to the legion, having served with neither but having watched a few documentaries.

    In case it was not clear, I was not slating navy seals.

    If you have to serve in the navy seals and legion to talk about them then I suppose you can leave this forum as well as I.


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