Chuggers (charity muggers)

KStaford

I really dislike people knocking on my car window rattling a bucket in my face asking for money. Its like a form of coercion. Its a practice that is becoming regular at some of the roundabouts in the city.

ronnie3585

Just keep your window closed and ignore the bastids.

DeadSkin

KStaford wrote: »

I really dislike people knocking on my car window rattling a bucket in my face asking for money. Its like a form of coercion. Its a practice that is becoming regular at some of the roundabouts in the city.

On top of that ya have the dude outside [ye old]Roches Stores shouting cancer at people as they walk by.

dmcg90

Theres some dude and his wife selling flowers outside Topaz Newcastle... in the road...

big b

dmcg90 wrote: »

Theres some dude and his wife selling flowers outside Topaz Newcastle... in the road...

roadodendrons?

Xiney

Just be happy you haven't got squeegee kids.



Kids dressed like punks who make money by washing your windshield while you're stopped at a red light then demanding payment. Most of the time, your windshield is dirtier than when it started.

3fullback

stop being so cranky throw them a bit change its always going to a good cause.. You'll fell better with yourself and less cranky ... Ps. If you can afford to drive a car towards a roundabout then you can afforad to throw them a €1 ..... ya pup

Caliden

DeadSkin wrote: »

On top of that ya have the dude outside [ye old]Roches Stores shouting cancer at people as they walk by.

I keep wondering if he is offering cancer to anyone by the way he says it

vms7ply9t6dw4b

3fullback wrote: »

stop being so cranky throw them a bit change its always going to a good cause.. You'll fell better with yourself and less cranky ... Ps. If you can afford to drive a car towards a roundabout then you can afforad to throw them a €1 ..... ya pup

:mad: what good cause would that be then? You've clearly never seen them being dropped off and collected by car. They probablly have more money they we do:rolleyes:

patnor1011

good joke.... never heard better.... give them 1e.... yeah, and then you will see ads in telly which must have cost fortune asking you to adopt some bear or elephant somewhere in the middle of nowhere... I will give some change to local groups which I know but not to somebody I never saw claiming that he is working for somebody I never heard of.... Last time they walk in to my house saying that they are helping poor so I told them thank god thet you are here and asked them how much they can give me. They nearly run away... Or the best is "Sorrry mi England is nooo guuud" and then 3-4 times "Sorrry" again and all with big honest smile.... Lots of people didnt realize that they are giving away personal details to strangers - thats new way how to get on you telling you that they cant accept money but they want some 50c a day and demand to set up direct debit to your acc... Whoever is doing this must be pure stupid as they work with volunteers which have nice ID but you never know who they are and what they will do with all your details - what if they will be stolen or lost... No, I am not against charity but charity wants to help poor and they are targeting poor. They should put pressure to rich and get more money...

gaeilgegrinds

A friend of mine says in Dublin they key your car if you don't buy the Big Issue from them, least they're not that bad here, yet.

They are a nuisance. As a previous poster said, just keep the windows shut.

/and a gun handy

Mrs OBumble

3fullback wrote: »

stop being so cranky throw them a bit change its always going to a good cause.. You'll fell better with yourself and less cranky ... Ps. If you can afford to drive a car towards a roundabout then you can afforad to throw them a €1 ..... ya pup

Do you give money to the beefy looking lads collecting for dodgy sounding "disabled" organisations outside shops, too?

Mrs OBumble

I've been waiting for this happy combination of the threads on chuggers and Galway drivers. (Expected that if I started it myself, I'd get told to fcek-off for moaning

Is this stuff legal here? Seems pretty dangerous at the madder roundabouts.

KStaford

3fullback wrote: »

stop being so cranky throw them a bit change its always going to a good cause.. You'll fell better with yourself and less cranky ... Ps. If you can afford to drive a car towards a roundabout then you can afforad to throw them a €1 ..... ya pup

You are making some unfounded assumptions about me here aren't ya pal?

You are assuming that I'm cranky
You are assuming that I lack an altruistic or charitable side

Unfortunately I think you missed the point of my post.

3fullback

KStaford wrote: »

You are making some unfounded assumptions about me here aren't ya pal?

You are assuming that I'm cranky
You are assuming that I lack an altruistic or charitable side

Unfortunately I think you missed the point of my post.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

DRakE

none of these charities will benefit me in any way

and for that reason

i'm out

JohnCleary

DRakE wrote: »

none of these charities will benefit me in any way

and for that reason

i'm out

Are you saying that there's no chance you'll some day be a starving black child in Africa? :pac:

gaeilgegrinds

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

A friend of mine says in Dublin they key your car if you don't buy the Big Issue from them, least they're not that bad here, yet.

If one of them keyed my car Id key their face!!

They are always doing the window washing thing at traffic lights in London. Its a pain in the hole. I would always put on my wipers which usually made them move on after making a stupid attempt to wash the windscreen with the wipers on.

lightening

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

A friend of mine says in Dublin they key your car if you don't buy the Big Issue from them, least they're not that bad here, yet.

Your friend is talking ****e... The big issue sellers in Dublin are not at all pushy and are quiet polite and usually smiling.

JohnCleary

Next time they approach you, roll your window down and offer them the wrapper from your chewing gum

Fighting Irish

Its being done it Carlow as well, i keep a bottle of piss with me in the car at all times

lampsie

Slightly OT, but I must say those two guys that are collecting every Saturday (ish?) at the entrance to Edward Square just off Shop street are starting to bug me a bit. There's a line between asking people for charity and being pushy, and personally I feel their methods (two tables to funnel people through, then two rather stern burly types at each side barking at people) is slightly the wrong side of intimidating.
Just imho of course, but I pointedly don't give these guys anything and save the loose change for others..

JohnCleary

lampsie wrote: »

Slightly OT, but I must say those two guys that are collecting every Saturday (ish?) at the entrance to Edward Square just off Shop street are starting to bug me a bit. There's a line between asking people for charity and being pushy, and personally I feel their methods (two tables to funnel people through, then two rather stern burly types at each side barking at people) is slightly the wrong side of intimidating.
Just imho of course, but I pointedly don't give these guys anything and save the loose change for others..

Situations like this are easy to get out of: Don't make eye contact and act as if they don't exist - simple!

-Edit- And become some C U Next Tuesday comes along and calls me a scabby b4stard, I raise money for charity on a regular'ish enough basis - I just do it in better ways (ie. making an eejit out of myself / putting myself through pain for the entertainment of others which makes them WANT to donate) then standing with a little table eye-balling people

KevR

I personally would never encourage charities to collect at roundabouts/junctions by giving them money there. People who give money are encouraging it - fair enough you might not mind being asked for money when queing in traffic but other people do so you shouldn't encourage it. If you really want to give money to these charities then go to their office to do it or post them a cheque, don't do it at roundabouts.

JohnCleary

When i'm driving I like to do just that - drive. I prefer not to be having to avoid running someone over. The last thing I want is someone shaking a bucket at my window - i've enough to be looking at (ie. traffic / cyclists)

I've no problem throwing a few quid to charaties at designated events - ie. Blackrock Christmas Swim. People know what the event is about and you know you're going to be asked for some money - that's fine

Another thing that REALLY REALLYYYYY pisses me off is people coming into pubs collecting for charity / selling lotto tickets - FFS I go to a pub to relax and have a quiet pint, not to be pestered to buy stuff. Again, i'm all for fund-raising for clubs etc. but there's a time and a place. Last week I organised a hamper for one of my clubs - however I didn't p1ss people off asking for money - I sent an e-mail, and a location where the prizes would be (somewhere nice and convenient) and if anyone wanted to buy a ticket they came to me - Result was excellent and we raised more than we anticipated woohoo

Xiney

this afternoon walking down shop street there were a bunch of young/friendly/funny chuggers (I guess)

anyway, I was wandering down shop street picking at a bag of crisps (the ones that came with my 2.75 meal deal thingo from M&S - really nice baked ones, was very much enjoying them) when one of the girls asked me if she could have one.



It must have been comical the way I oh so sulkily said "...no". I didn't mean to say it in such a shocked tone, she just caught me off guard!


(Xiney does not share food with strangers)

Mal-Adjusted

Xiney wrote: »

this afternoon walking down shop street there were a bunch of young/friendly/funny chuggers (I guess)

anyway, I was wandering down shop street picking at a bag of crisps (the ones that came with my 2.75 meal deal thingo from M&S - really nice baked ones, was very much enjoying them) when one of the girls asked me if she could have one.



It must have been comical the way I oh so sulkily said "...no". I didn't mean to say it in such a shocked tone, she just caught me off guard!


(Xiney does not share food with strangers)

which brings us to those Red/Yellow jacket people on shop street:D

Jesus, I hate them!:mad: they singel you out of the crowd like a wolf hunting a deer, then lay in the ol' intercept course. there's no avoiding the bastards! I'm not going to give you any money! **** off!

doolox

There should be a law against those people.
Life is hard enough in cities without having to contend with a another set of obstacles on our roads and streets as we try to get around.
They should be banned.

thecountessp

Xiney wrote: »

Just be happy you haven't got squeegee kids.



Kids dressed like punks who make money by washing your windshield while you're stopped at a red light then demanding payment. Most of the time, your windshield is dirtier than when it started.

I saw a guy out doing just that at the Wellpark roundabout last week. It just takes things a bit longer to get to Galway, but they do!

As for collecting - can't imagine the Gardaí rubber stamping forms that will directly lead to inattentive driving coming up to major junctions...

moonflower

^I saw people near Tesco with their squeegeys and bottle of water trying to clean people's windows too. Around two weeks ago

teflteacher

thoughts on the above??
very intimidating and rude. don't think they're legit. why won't the gardai do something about them?

happyoutscan

teflteacher wrote: »

thoughts on the above??
very intimidating and rude. don't think they're legit. why won't the gardai do something about them?

Are those the two who have their tables facing each other making it impossible for anyone to avoid being roared at? As far as I know they are legit - often seen outside Roches or Eglinton St - but they are a right pain in the arrse. Any of those street tickets are a farce. Girl I know sold them in Galway bout a year and a half ago. Each 3Euro collected per ticket was divided 3 ways: 1E to the seller, 1E to his/her boss and 1E to charity. A right con if you ask me.

Krieg

I have no proof but ive been told from different sources that those guys pay the charity/s annually (something like 5k) and the money they make goes into their pocket. Anyone else hear this? They must be making something from it since they are at nearly everyday.
A lot of modern charity ploys seem really scummy imo, although its easily debatable.

The guys with clipboards...... I dont think i need to say anything.

Mrs OBumble

I love how the shopping-centre crowd have signs that name one charity, and vests etc that name another.

A friend was down at Mill Street to get his electoral registration witnessed.

There was a lad in there asking about getting a charity collection licence. The guard asked him what the charity was, he thought for a minute and then came up with "It's called 'help the disabled' ".

Apparently it was quite amusing to watch the conversation, though you gotta feel sorry for the guard who had to be courteous and polite all through it.

gaillimheach

Anyone know anything about "Sr Rita's Comfort Fund"?

Mal-Adjusted

i just ignore them. life's too short to bother with these people every time you leave your house.

happyoutscan

JustMary wrote: »

I love how the shopping-centre crowd have signs that name one charity, and vests etc that name another.

Agree with you completely Mary. I spent some time in Germany. Walking down the streets in Hanover you would see the Charity collectors etc. sitting behind small little kiosks (perhaps 5' x 2' with an overhead banner naming the charity) to the side of the street or shopping center or wherever. There was always one/a couple/a few people at each who appeared to randomly stroll over to buy a ticket or whatever and give a couple quid. It is such an intelligent way to collect for charities. No confrontation or attempted guilt trips thrown.

People will always support something close to them but the methods used over here are ridiculous.

Mal-Adjusted

happyoutscan wrote: »

Agree with you completely Mary. I spent some time in Germany. Walking down the streets in Hanover you would see the Charity collectors etc. sitting behind small little kiosks (perhaps 5' x 2' with an overhead banner naming the charity) to the side of the street or shopping center or wherever. There was always one/a couple/a few people at each who appeared to randomly stroll over to buy a ticket or whatever and give a couple quid. It is such an intelligent way to collect for charities. No confrontation or attempted guilt trips thrown.

People will always support something close to them but the methods used over here are ridiculous.

+1 it really is annoying with them camped outside the door of shopping centers so you almost have to squeeze around them...oh, and outside HMV, where they actually have tables on opposite sides

cornbb

I threw the RNLI a few quid today as I reckon I might need them at some point in my life. Not usually a huge fan of chuggers but they're not that bad in fairness. People with coin buckets or people selling scratchcards aren't classed as chuggers, surely that title is reserved for the crowd with the clipboards who try to phish your bank account details outta you.

Anyway surely the "hi lads late bar in 903/coyotes/halo/cuba/gpo tonight" crowd are far more annoying and in-yer-face than any charity collectors. And the cause they represent comes nowhere near to being decent, noble or useful. No, I don't want a goddamned stamp so I can get 2 euros off the usual 14 euro price for the privilege of getting into your sh*tty overpriced sweatbox full of tramps who can't walk in a straight line and horny students with bad haircuts. Ahh, I've been meaning to get that off my chest for a while.

Xiney

cornbb wrote: »

No, I don't want a goddamned stamp so I can get 2 euros off the usual 14 euro price for the privilege of getting into your sh*tty overpriced sweatbox full of tramps who can't walk in a straight line and horny students with bad haircuts. Ahh, I've been meaning to get that off my chest for a while.

LOL

Delta Kilo

Took this picture in Galway on Saturday.

Caption: Beggars can't be choosers!

mayotom

Xiney wrote: »

Just be happy you haven't got squeegee kids.



Kids dressed like punks who make money by washing your windshield while you're stopped at a red light then demanding payment. Most of the time, your windshield is dirtier than when it started.

there is good money in window washing


Tax Free money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdsU2qkxz5s

Mrs OBumble

cornbb wrote: »

Anyway surely the "hi lads late bar in 903/coyotes/halo/cuba/gpo tonight" crowd are far more annoying and in-yer-face than any charity collectors.

If you're in their demographic, I suspect they're pretty bad. Walking past them is the one time I'm glad to be older. That said, on quiet Monday evenings in winter-time, even I get offered a stamp - actually asked them one night if it was senior-citizens night. Don't think they understood what I meant though.

gary82

Those lads on shop street really annoy me when they intercept you can offer a smiling handshake to pull you in. Make you feel v ignorant then for walking away (as they make a snide comment usually). But remember these guys that try to guilt your bank details from you are earning big money!! As you can see from this job listing, they're paid €700+ per week: http://jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=945296 :mad:

They'll have commissions and bonuses if they hit targets too.

A walk up to the shop in the evening is now also a torture with the nightclub crowd all trying to tag you at every junction. Cuba is the worst - they come shouting a whole big spiel in your face "Free into Bar 903 tonight, late bar until 2, two floors open in cuba, dj stevie g, double shots and redbull only €5"... blah blah. Leave me in peace!

coldwood92

There is Rnl collectors around galway @ min

HowAreYeGettinO

The two boys were worse than ever outside HMV on Saturday. 'Ex-CUSE me ladies, would you like to help...' (with maximum drama, volume, head-down-eyeballing-people etc.)

I heard somewhere that they're on one-third of the takings. Can anyone confirm that?

They were unbelievably ignorant the last day.

Mrs OBumble

I've heard rumours that the amount the charity has to get is even lower - around 17% or such. Maybe some clever law or accountancy student will know exactly which law covers this, and look it up for us ... (hint ....)

What really gets me is the "charity" they're collecting for: half the time, they have a sign for one, fluro vests for another, and verbally just say "mutter, mumble, wheelchairs, mumble" ... very much doubt they know.

ceepeedee

3fullback wrote: »

stop being so cranky throw them a bit change its always going to a good cause.. You'll fell better with yourself and less cranky ... Ps. If you can afford to drive a car towards a roundabout then you can afforad to throw them a €1 ..... ya pup

Er... and which good cause is this 1 euro always going to, based on the OP's post?

Redhairedguy

HowAreYeGettinO wrote: »

I heard somewhere that they're on one-third of the takings. Can anyone confirm that?

Well I can definitely confirm that they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

A friend of mine used to be a chugger... He was making silly money with them... He told me quite a few stories, but I'm not a liberty to repeat them.

All in all, extremely lucrative job... whether you actually sign people up or not.

_ZeeK_

if theres something charitable worth doing, its something you can physically do yourself...

moneys too tight all round to be stolen by loudmouth gob****es with luminous vest.