latest info on strike

moretothegirl

not sure if this will work as i am having problems posting threads at the moment.... anyway can anyone tell me about this strike on monday? is it likely that buildings will close as i hav heard? also is this affecting the library...

moretothegirl

oh yay it worked! sorry i know there is already a post on the strike but whenever i tried to reply to it (all week) it wouldnt let me anyways any info wil be great because i dont want to go the whole way to dublin monday and have nowhere to study, if i should stay at home, but also dont want to miss any lectures that might be takin place

jimi_t

moretothegirl wrote: »

oh yay it worked! sorry i know there is already a post on the strike but whenever i tried to reply to it (all week) it wouldnt let me anyways any info wil be great because i dont want to go the whole way to dublin monday and have nowhere to study, if i should stay at home, but also dont want to miss any lectures that might be takin place

The staff strike is off AFAIK - I can guarantee you that you'll find somewhere to study on campus on Monday regardless of student action. As for the buildings closing I seriously doubt it.

shanegj

the buildings will still be open

moretothegirl

thanks guys i was just a bit confused there because iv been hearing so much lately about it.... i dont want to be one to cross a picket line but at the same time need to get work done

kev_s88

as far as i know the lecturers will be there too for anyone who wants to go to lectures

crashers

im going to my lectures tomorrow but im just wondering will the protesters be shouting stuff at those that do go to lectures? (dont kill me if its a stupid question)

Handsome Bob

crashers wrote: »

im going to my lectures tomorrow but im just wondering will the protesters be shouting stuff at those that do go to lectures? (dont kill me if its a stupid question)

Nope, it's a fair question and I'd also like to know the deal. Am I going to get abused by going to Lectures?

Brimmy

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Nope, it's a fair question and I'd also like to know the deal. Am I going to get abused by going to Lectures?

Most likely.

It's ridiculous though that they'd have the strike this close to the end of the year, and more importantly finals.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

crashers wrote: »

im going to my lectures tomorrow but im just wondering will the protesters be shouting stuff at those that do go to lectures? (dont kill me if its a stupid question)

It'd be fairly stupid of them if they do, since they spent the whole year chanting "Education is a right, not a privelege". Stopping or trying to prevent people from attending lectures would be contradictory of them.
I don't see how exactly this strike will be effective, especially since the majority of students a) don't know about it and b) the majority of those who do will still attend their lectures.

Brimmy

CaptainNegative wrote: »

It'd be fairly stupid of them if they do, since they spent the whole year chanting "Education is a right, not a privelege". Stopping or trying to prevent people from attending lectures would be contradictory of them.
I don't see how exactly this strike will be effective, especially since the majority of students a) don't know about it and b) the majority of those who do will still attend their lectures.

I can see them heckling etc but if they try and forcibly stop anyone from entering/leaving the campus then it's gone way too far.

Tomorrow will be interesting either way..

1968

As mandated by 82% of the student body, the UCDSU is organising a shutdown of the college tomorrow (Monday 30th). This day was picked because this was when the ICTU were having their day of action, however this has been deferred.

The UCDSU are asking all students not to attend classes and instead join in activties organised by the union during the day including film showings, talks, rallies, gigs, marches etc..

I hope no one will "heckling" students who decide to go to class.

samsamson

I'll be going to class (waiting for the youtube videos of people getting books thrown at them! :rolleyes:).

So just so we are clear, ALL lecturers and tutorial tutors are going ahead with their classes? There's no union or anything encouraging them to strike anymore?

shanegj

I'm not sure if all lectures will be going ahead because services in the science building said that th. A is not being used for academic reasons so its been used all day for a society event

Also Starring LeVar Burton

A lot of tutorials might be cancelled, because most tutors are students themselves.
The tutorials I teach should be going ahead as usual, although I don't expect attendance to be high.

scop

As a tutor I've heard nothing at all about what is or is not on. I'll simply have to go in, and whether students turn up or not go with that. It is very confusing really.

randomchild

I'll be going to class! Fight those greedy Union fat cats!

Raphael

1968 wrote: »

As mandated by 82% of the student body

82% of voters, amounting to I believe about 20% of the student body.

crashers wrote: »

im going to my lectures tomorrow but im just wondering will the protesters be shouting stuff at those that do go to lectures? (dont kill me if its a stupid question)

I hope so, I really do. Will be attending all my lectures anyway.

liamygunner29

everyone posting here seems to be going in and as a first year arts student im not really worried as I don't need an excuse to stay at home!! but i was wondering is anybody not going in because of this??

Handsome Bob

Raphael wrote: »

I hope so, I really do. Will be attending all my lectures anyway.

I may have misinterpreted this but are you saying that you hope protestors will be abusing people going to lectures?

passive

1968 wrote: »

As mandated by 82% of the student body,

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, eh?

Riamfada

passive wrote: »

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, eh?

Lefty Loosey , Righty Tighty ! I have yet to meet an anarcist group or a right wing group use facts to support up a point.


On another note, im pretty sure UCDSU will not support or allow the heckling of students who attend lectures.This thread should not attempt to put the idea in the heads of people here that the SU would ever act in that fashion. It is a good idea that this protest is being held but a purely voluntary basis. Lectures will go on as normal as the staff strike has been called off. Just another day in UCD folks.

I give this protest my +1 but unfortunately I will not be attending. I have an assignment due :P

Kat Slater

I won't be attending any protests, I have better things to be getting on with. It will be interesting to see the turnout. I'm in final year and I don't know anyone in my class who is prepared to give up 4 hours of lectures this soon before the exams, especially when it's for something like this. Most people don't actually give a flying monkeys.

passive

€5 says the attendance is less than 1/2 the amount who voted for the strike!

Raphael

LZ5by5 wrote: »

I may have misinterpreted this but are you saying that you hope protestors will be abusing people going to lectures?

Yes, specifically I hope some little twit tries to stop me. It would be most entertaining.

muffinman

samsamson wrote: »

I'll be going to class (waiting for the youtube videos of people getting books thrown at them! :rolleyes:).

So just so we are clear, ALL lecturers and tutorial tutors are going ahead with their classes? There's no union or anything encouraging them to strike anymore?

I know that all law tutorials are supposed to be going ahead as planned, and all lectures in every field are going ahead as was said already..

hughbrady wrote: »

<Off-topic rantings>

Seriously, why isn't this deleted? every thread about the strike, or anything remotely related to fees, ends up as a debate on fees.. There's a thread for that..

Raphael

muffinman wrote: »

Seriously, why isn't this deleted? every thread about the strike, or anything remotely related to fees, ends up as a debate on fees.. There's a thread for that..

Because I'm not omniscient and didn't see it? S'gone now, as it was completely off-topic ranting.

For future reference, there;s a report post button that alerts mods directly to problem posts, if you could use that in future it would make our life easier. kthxbye

muffinman

Raphael wrote: »

Because I'm not omniscient and didn't see it? S'gone now, as it was completely off-topic ranting.

For future reference, there;s a report post button that alerts mods directly to problem posts, if you could use that in future it would make our life easier. kthxbye

sorry sorry :cool:

hughbrady

Seeing as my other post got deleted, I'd like to say (for the record) that nobody had better stop me on my way to the library today or they'll get a piece of my mind.

That said, I've been in since eight and nobody's been around yet. Maybe hippies don't get up early...

Riamfada

hughbrady wrote: »

Seeing as my other post got deleted, I'd like to say (for the record) that nobody had better stop me on my way to the library today or they'll get a piece of my mind.

That said, I've been in since eight and nobody's been around yet. Maybe hippies don't get up early...

but you are already there? how could they stop you on your way?

hughbrady

Grimes wrote: »

but you are already there? how could they stop you on your way?

'Cause I'm in college but not yet in the library.

EDITED TO ADD:
Looks like I was right, hippies DO sleep in

Dave!

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE RIKE!!!!!!!!!!

delta_bravo

Another great slogan written on the ground was: 'I couldve bought a car with the reg fee '

I passed it by there a few minutes ago and theres about 6 people there (2,000 in indymedia numbers), a terrible turnout. There does seem to be less students in lectures so most people simply didnt come in.

Dave!

Think the protest is at 1pm, so it might pick up

I only had 1 lecture (history), and it was pretty much as full as usual... maybe slightly less.

Someone gave a little speech at the end, "there appears to be some confusion -- we are on STRIKE! etc.", met with silence

The same person shouted something into theatre L from the door. Don't think the lecture had started at that point though.

bnt

Dave! wrote: »

Someone gave a little speech at the end, "there appears to be some confusion -- we are on STRIKE! etc.", met with silence

Confusion about the "strike", eh? Probably has something to do with the fact that "strike" is the wrong word for what's going on. Try a dictionary:

strike (n.)
"concentrated cessation of work by a body of employees," 1810, from verb meaning "refuse to work to force an employer to meet demands" (1768), from strike (v.). Perhaps from notion of striking or "downing" one's tools, or from sailors' practice of striking (lowering) a ship's sails as a symbol of refusal to go to sea (1768), which preserves the verb's original sense of "make level, smooth."

strike. Dictionary.com. Online Etymology Dictionary. Douglas Harper, Historian. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/strike (accessed: March 30, 2009).

So, "strike" refers to a suspension of work by employees, with the aim of forcing an employer to change something (or not). You don't work for UCD, so UCD is not your employer. If you skip lectures, what does UCD feel? Based on the lectures I've had so far today, the answer seems to be "nothing whatsoever". Call yourselves Arts students, eh? :pac:

passive

No takers on that €5 bet?

So a couple of thousand students vote to strike and attend alternative events around college, and ten turn up on the day to chalk inane slogans all over the place. Hilarious! Maybe there were 20 or 30 more at the lake, I dunno.. I, along with about 95% of the usual number of students, was in my 1pm lecture.

Frank Grimes

Was pretty much business as usual in the lecture and tutorial I had earlier. I heard the drums at 1pm when I was in my lecture but there didn't seem to be much else noise, guess the turnout for that was poor too.

samsamson

Day went as normal... I'd be feeling like a bit of a twat right now if I'd been involved in organising the strike.

hughbrady

Seriously, I haven't had a good chuckle like this since the last episode of 30 Rock. Protest? About as effective as a paper condom. What a damp squib. And for even more giggles, check out this entry in that Newsletter of the Great Unwashed, Indymedia, featuring such highlights as:

• The main task will be to stop students attending lectures [spectacular fail]
• ... followed by decoration of the college in anti-fees chalk graffiti... [no! not the chalk!]
• ... There will then be a film screening at 11... [hope there's room for the 3 people I'd say showed up]
• ...A lakeside rally... [I think about 15 people showed up]
• ... a projected march to Hugh Brady's gaff... [as long as you keep off the grass, I don't give a ****], followed by
• ...a pillow fight...

Really - this is the best this crowd can come up with? A pillow fight and some chalk graffiti. Hold the presses. Still, made me smile for the evening...

graduate

Ah now HughBrady, you are very negative. Who is to say that the proposed event at the student bar won't attract a roaring crowd?

RandolphEsq

A free pizza stand would have generated a greater buzz! Mmmmmm. . . . pizza

Zounds

Well I think today proved once and for all that the UCDSU couldn't organise a piss-up in a bar.

EDIT: Okay, that's probably not fair, I appreciate a lot of the stuff the SU does around campus but seriously their approach to fees and today especially has been WOEFUL.

Tayto2000

In fairness I don't think it was the organisation that was a problem, I think they just ran into the brick wall of apathy when it came to the on campus activities... I'd say a lot of people who voted for the strike just saw it as a day off and didn't bother coming in, especially since it was a Monday... Maybe it'll pick up at the bar tonight.

mloc

I'm shocked, I didn't think there could be anything more pathetic than the idea of the strike.

The strike itself beat the idea of the strike at the post on that one.

Breezer

I take it from these posts that I've been proven right then?

Kind of sorry I missed this, I was in the Mater all day pretending to be a doctor. I did pop into Belfield later and saw the chalk; not all of it was in support of the strike mind you!

Apparently UCC managed to pull off a half-decent attendance for theirs. It got a mention on RTE Radio 1 anyway.

Tayto2000

Yeah, it looked like a lot of the chalk slogans had been hijacked by Lawsoc people for the auditor elections...

Breezer

Tayto2000 wrote: »

Yeah, it looked like a lot of the chalk slogans had been hijacked by Lawsoc people for the auditor elections...

I didn't actually see those, the ones I saw were anti-strike. I did see plenty of LawSoc posters though. Kind of weird seeing the face of someone you went to school with everywhere. Anyway, I digress...

Richie15

Raphael wrote: »

82% of voters, amounting to I believe about 20% of the student body.

That'll teach those 80% to vote then, wont it.

Brimmy

Richie15 wrote: »

That'll teach those 80% to vote then, wont it.

Not really. That 80% just showed their apathy by not going again..

Honestly I must have had my head in the clouds or something because I had no idea there was a vote on this in the Elections. I might have voted otherwise..

anonymous_joe

What a shít strike. Didn't see a single burning oil drum.

Oh and doesn't a strike need strikers?

Richie15

Brimmy wrote: »

Not really. That 80% just showed their apathy by not going again...

Sorry, I meant the part of the 80% that cared enough to give out about it but not enough to vote.