Time to Video All Lectures

Cantab.

Trinity are falling behind.

I believe we need to roll out the infrastructure to be able to video and record all lectures and make them available to the public at large.

The http://academicearth.org project is truly amazing. It appears we've little to contribute.

This Apple interface that's currently being plugged is a half-assed attempt at bringing us in line with the world's top universities.

We need an open-source, easy-to-use and highly accessible interface to all college courses. We should be the leaders of this technology in Ireland and the British Isles, not the laggers.

Methinks it's time to order some smart cams and directional microphones and give ISServices/the library an exciting project to work on.

Kwekubo

I understand that the necessary technology for audio recordings has already been implemented; it's just not used. We had one rather eager lecturer last year who put "podcasts" of his lectures online (both audio and screen capture video of his presentations), but that was only nine lectures worth, and they weren't podcasts (they were streaming video/direct download from within the Trinity network, so you couldn't access them at home, for example).

Dumbledore

I think this would have a positive effect. At least then students who could not make it to their lectures for whatever reason would have the facility to catch up on what they missed.
Also putting them on a free-for-all site sounds like a good idea from here, maybe even non-students would educate themselves.
Another reason for this would be that prospective students would have a much better idea of what the course they are considering, is all about.

snappieT

Dumbledore wrote: »

I think this would have a positive effect. At least then students who could not make it to their lectures for whatever reason would have the facility to catch up on what they missed.

Why should they be able to. Attend lectures. Too lazy to get out of bed, you shouldn't be getting the benefit of lectures.

Dumbledore wrote: »

Also putting them on a free-for-all site sounds like a good idea from here, maybe even non-students would educate themselves.

Then who will come to do the actual course? You can't just give away things for free.

Dumbledore wrote: »

Another reason for this would be that prospective students would have a much better idea of what the course they are considering, is all about.

If anyone knew what they were getting into ahead of time, they wouldn't do the course.


Feeling a tad cynical today, in case you didn't guess.

raah!

That's a brilliant idea alright, but what's there to do to set such a process in motion?

Podge_irl

Why, exactly, do you think that such material should be available to the public at large for free? Students are apparently soon going to have to fork over a lot of money to be able to attend these lectures.

Ron DMC

It's already fully available. I think pretty much all the large lecture theatres are equipped with not only decent speaker mics, but screen recording to capture lecture slides etc for video.
You can some of the testing ISS did here.

I reckon it just needs to get a bit more take up from enthusiastic lecturers. Students for the most part will support anything that helps them learn, but initially lecturers won't embrace something so different.

I agree with Podge_irl. I'm not sure though about providing them free to the public. What we be the benefit of actually attending college be in that case (other than an actual degree of course). The knowledge you have by having gone to university (that you had to sit exams to get into) is available to any Joe Bloggs off the street. I really dunno about that.

Kwekubo

snappieT wrote: »

Why should they be able to. Attend lectures. Too lazy to get out of bed, you shouldn't be getting the benefit of lectures.

In that case, do it to give those who actually come to the lecture every opportunity to do their best. Even if you try to write down everything a lecturer says, there will be some things that just go over your head when you hear them the first time. I've attended some really great lectures and it would have been nice to experience them again when studying.

snappieT wrote: »

Then who will come to do the actual course? You can't just give away things for free.

UC Berkeley/Harvard/Oxford/Cambridge aren't really struggling to find applicants tbh.

Cantab.

Knowing ISS, they'll insist on using proprietary technology and tie the College to M$ products for the next 10 years.

Some posters above are raising the issues of students not attending lectures due to this technology being available and also issues surrounding "why should they be public when we're paying so much already". These views, IMO, go against the spirit of academia and the idea of a university. Trinity has lots to contribute to society and being at the forefront of the latest technological trends is something that's not to be shyed away from.

I think video lectures are going to shake up universities across the world tremendously.

On lecture theatres being equipped with technology: currently, Trinity's theatres are not adaquately equipped to take students' questions and make it easy (as in simple) for lecturers to record and upload. A lot of investment would be required there. I believe projects such as these should be done with the philosophy of open source technology as much as possible.

If we don't move, it's only a matter of time before one of the lesser known institutes around the country that's struggling for recognition claims the "first in Ireland" title.

Video lecturing might actually force lecturers to buck themselves up and offer higher quality courses to students.

Ron DMC

Cantab. wrote: »

Knowing ISS, they'll insist on using proprietary technology and tie the College to M$ products for the next 10 years.

Did you not click on my link? It's all mac stuff they've been testing with.
I'm fairly sure some lecturers use it regularly. The CS department were definitely involved in rolling it out and I seem to remember the statutes review group from a year or two back putting podcasts up. Can't find them now though.

Cantab.

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Did you not click on my link? It's all mac stuff they've been testing with.
I'm fairly sure some lecturers use it regularly. The CS department were definitely involved in rolling it out and I seem to remember the statutes review group from a year or two back putting podcasts up. Can't find them now though.

Not everyone uses Macs and not everyone wants to install this "iTunes" software.

"podcasts" are a 2007 fad. We need to move on from this idea and start focusing on the dissemination of high quality, platform agnostic video lectures that can be accessed anywhere in the world.

Each course should have a public forum for a start. It could be modded by the lecturer's postgraduate student.

mathew

seems to be internal access only.....

Kwekubo

Cantab. wrote: »

Not everyone uses Macs and not everyone wants to install this "iTunes" software.

"podcasts" are a 2007 fad. We need to move on from this idea and start focusing on the dissemination of high quality, platform agnostic video lectures that can be accessed anywhere in the world.

Podcasting is, and always has been, platform-agnostic. It just means media files accessible remotely via a web feed - no reference to iTunes, iPods or anything else. The problem is that Trinity doesn't really understand what podcasts are (as I alluded to above).

JackKelly

Cantab. wrote: »

Each course should have a public forum for a start. It could be modded by the lecturer's postgraduate student.

I think we should be worrying about this before worrying about lecture videos etc.
The fact that there is no online, standardized, central Trinity College student network is a sham.
I'm talking about a campus wide webcourse/moodle. I haven't used moodle, but webcourse is a software abortion. Gmail Myzone is a start, but is completely underutilized. I can't understand why they don't centralize every departments webspace and at least enforce some type of template over TCD. I imagine they are trying, and maybe it is in the pipelines (as they introduced the new website recently) but I think it should be a priority.

As for videoing lectures, I think this is a great idea. It's the lecturers job to impart information and if that means videoing their lectures then I'm all for it. Furthermore, lecturers should be forced to provide notes and slides for all their lectures. While 90% do this, there is nothing more annoying then having a class where the lecturer isn't bothered to put up any notes or other information (or feels that by not putting up their notes, everyone will attend.)

snappieT wrote: »

Why should they be able to. Attend lectures. Too lazy to get out of bed, you shouldn't be getting the benefit of lectures.

I don't see why students should be penalized for not going to lectures. If you can learn the information outside of class (which you can usually do in half the time) then that's the lecturers problem, not the students.
Every one assumes that if you don't go to lectures you are just being lazy, and while for some people this might be the case, you'll find that a lot of people don't go to lectures because they feel they're a waste of time. Again, this is a failing of the College and the Teachers, not the students.
The majority of lecturers in colleges have no teaching qualifications, and while they may be total experts in their field, they have no training at imparting that information.

I'd happily attend 100% of my lecturers if I thought they were going to be well taught and worth while - in fact I did attend the ones that were. The ones I stopped attending were the ones where people were afraid to ask questions incase they were scoffed at by the lecturer, the ones where you got to the end of the lecture without having a single idea what just happened, and the ones where they were so dull that you ended up browsing here for 40minutes.

Lectures should be a time to go over ideas, not implementations. Again, I've wasted so many hours sitting in lectures wondering why I bothered getting up to go in when I could have read the same thing in a book in 20 minutes.

At the end of the day, the students are the ones bringing the money to the college, and if they find that X, Y or Z is the easiest way for them to learn, then it's up to the college to provide it.If a student feels he or she would be better off watching a video of a lecture for whatever reason, then why not.

raah!

Podge_irl wrote: »

Why, exactly, do you think that such material should be available to the public at large for free? Students are apparently soon going to have to fork over a lot of money to be able to attend these lectures.

Why not is the question I think. The people who did not pay won't be able to get a degree, and won't be sitting tests. So from the student whose paid's point of view these people aren't really offering any competition in terms of jobs (they have no proof of any qualifications).

And the type of people who would study whatever subject purely for the sake of enlightenment are the type of people who deserve to be able to learn it.

Cantab.

TimAy wrote: »

I think we should be worrying about this before worrying about lecture videos etc.
The fact that there is no online, standardized, central Trinity College student network is a sham.
I'm talking about a campus wide webcourse/moodle. I haven't used moodle, but webcourse is a software abortion. Gmail Myzone is a start, but is completely underutilized.

I can't stand "myzone". Why ISS can't host an email server at webmail.tcd.ie with a selection of interfaces (RoundCube, Squirrel, Horde, etc.) is beyond me. IMAP and secure IMAP should also be available to students. It's silly not to make basic resources available when we're one step away from a HEA-Net fibre network. Why we're diverting ourselves through an external private company (who are prone to failure) is beyond me.

TimAy wrote: »

I can't understand why they don't centralize every departments webspace and at least enforce some type of template over TCD. I imagine they are trying, and maybe it is in the pipelines (as they introduced the new website recently) but I think it should be a priority.

Homogenisation via standardisation and templatisation is a bad thing IMO. I can't stand the "TCD" templates that they insist on using. Also, I find huge swathes of the College website to be distinctly patronising, unacademic and reminiscint of the marketing pages of a company rather than a university.

shay_562

I think it's a good idea, but will be difficult to implement with a lot of lecturers. I've had quite a few over the last few years who refuse to even put notes or slides online because they reckon that if people don't come to the lectures, they don't deserve to learn stuff. I have to agree with Cantab. though (*shudder*) that it might make lecturers cop themselves on a bit if they knew that what they were saying was being recorded and displayed to a wider audience.

JackKelly

Cantab. wrote: »

I can't stand the "TCD" templates that they insist on using.

Why? What possible benefits can come from having a fragmented college network? At least with a template of some sort, there would be consistency across all college websites.
Not that they need to look the same, just that would have to carry the same minimum amount of information, presented in a defined way.

Karlusss

I have lecturers that don't know how to turn on the microphone. They would fail to use this on a grand scale.

Podge_irl

raah! wrote: »

Why not is the question I think. The people who did not pay won't be able to get a degree, and won't be sitting tests. So from the student whose paid's point of view these people aren't really offering any competition in terms of jobs (they have no proof of any qualifications).

And the type of people who would study whatever subject purely for the sake of enlightenment are the type of people who deserve to be able to learn it.

There are books available on literally every topic conceivable, and there is no excuse for someone not being able to learn something from them. The difference with lecutres is that the lecturer is being paid for his actual presence and they receive no recompense if their lecture notes are distributed, never mind their actual lectures. And we are paying for them through our participation in the university system. Forgive me if I don't want someone getting for free what I have to pay a hell of a lot for. Nothing anyone lectures is secret, the information is always available if the person is willing to buy the required books and work through it themselves. I've paid for not just the degree I get at the end of it but the teaching that brings me there.

Prof.Badass

Podge_irl wrote: »

There are books available on literally every topic conceivable, and there is no excuse for someone not being able to learn something from them. The difference with lecutres is that the lecturer is being paid for his actual presence and they receive no recompense if their lecture notes are distributed, never mind their actual lectures. And we are paying for them through our participation in the university system. Forgive me if I don't want someone getting for free what I have to pay a hell of a lot for. Nothing anyone lectures is secret, the information is always available if the person is willing to buy the required books and work through it themselves. I've paid for not just the degree I get at the end of it but the teaching that brings me there.

That's a pretty selfish (not to mention petty) attitude to have tbh.

It won't affect you, or me, or any other tcd students, so why do you care?

I once sat in on a lecture when i was in 6th year and i've a friend who brought his brother into a lecture (when his brother was in 6th year). I really didn't think there was any problem with this and i don't see why there should be.

petrochemical

MIT have all their coursework online open source. So do many other institutions. The days of withholding information as a power tool are gone. You can download books on any subject you want. This bullsiht of "you must go to lectures". Bollo-x. You largely teach yourself anyway. It's just power tripping bitter lecturers or nerds who are jealous that the monopoly on their area of expertise is over.
Or they're trying to justify the ridiculous amount of time and effort that is wasted, and the cost. You could spend 10 mins going over a page in a lecture that you could have read in 20 secs yourself.

Epic Tissue

Maybe it would make the lecturers be... better:o. That could only be a good thing.

Boston

I'll say one thing about the "no free lunch" argument. Lecturers are paid for by the state, anything paid for by public money should be as open as possible to the public. This type of initiative is exactly the type of thing which could be used to support the assertion that education should remain free to all. Its very hypocritical for someone who doesn't have top pay for their education to withhold it from others*. One of the online lecturers mentioned a grant so its possible the course wouldn't be run at all if it wasn't online.

wrt online courses and distance learning. I took part in a course involving video conferencing and two remote sites and I have to say American universities seem to be far a head of us when it comes to technology used for this purpose.

petrochemical wrote: »

MIT have all their coursework online open source. So do many other institutions. The days of withholding information as a power tool are gone. You can download books on any subject you want. This bullsiht of "you must go to lectures". Bollo-x. You largely teach yourself anyway. It's just power tripping bitter lecturers or nerds who are jealous that the monopoly on their area of expertise is over.
Or they're trying to justify the ridiculous amount of time and effort that is wasted, and the cost. You could spend 10 mins going over a page in a lecture that you could have read in 20 secs yourself.

Making the notes available online places the pressure on the lecturer to do more then simply run through the notes but to provide some insight into the material. It means they have to step up their game, and they know it.



*Your registration fee is to pay for services and administrative which an online student wouldn't use.

Podge_irl

vinylmesh wrote: »

That's a pretty selfish (not to mention petty) attitude to have tbh.

I genuinely don't understand why people think that this sort of material should be freely available. I agree that it would be nice if it was, but I don't think we can complain if it isn't. No one objects that they have to buy books, no one is proposing that we scan in every book every published and put them online free for everyone. Why when its lecture notes do we think that should be done?

For the record, most lecturers here put their notes online and I make great use of that. I think it is something that should be encouraged (though equally I think lecturers are well within their rights not to). Video conferencing is also something that greater use should be made of. It's all very well saying education should be free and what not, but those providing the education have to get paid somehow. It is ultimately a service they are offering and we don't expect most other services to be free so why this one?

t0mm

I'm not to sure on video's but an audio tape of lectures would be far easier to create and store online/easier to use, stored on ipod etc. All information that the lecturers use is freely available to anyone who wishes to look for it. When writing an essay, I am NOT allowed to use lecture notes as a source of information, I must find the same facts and figures in my notes in a published work.

When in college, we leave with a degree, the point of which is to help us get a good/well paid job. Anyone else can go do the work, watch/listen to the lectures, even be far more knowledgable on a subject then someone fresh out of college, but the person with the degree will 99% of times be considered over someone just as clever/knowledgeble as they do not have a certified measure of their knowledge.

And, honestly, who would bother to watch/listen to an entire year's worth of lectures unless they were a student studying that course.

petrochemical

Podge_irl wrote: »

I genuinely don't understand why people think that this sort of material should be freely available. I agree that it would be nice if it was, but I don't think we can complain if it isn't. No one objects that they have to buy books, no one is proposing that we scan in every book every published and put them online free for everyone. Why when its lecture notes do we think that should be done?

So only the rich should get knowledge? Knowledge should be free to all. And while your speaking people who know this are busy scanning every book anyway, so you can't stop it.

It's all very well saying education should be free and what not, but those providing the education have to get paid somehow. It is ultimately a service they are offering and we don't expect most other services to be free so why this one?

If they rewrote their notes from first principles every year you'd have a point, but considering lecturers cog most of their material and sometimes questions from books, I don't think so. Half the time their stuff is out of date and students don't know any better. They've been ripping us off and laughing at us for years and now the joke's on them. Youre paying for the degree really, not their notes.

Boston

petrochemical wrote: »

If they rewrote their notes from first principles every year you'd have a point, but considering lecturers cog most of their material and sometimes questions from books, I don't think so. Half the time their stuff is out of date and students don't know any better. They've been ripping us off and laughing at us for years and now the joke's on them. Youre paying for the degree really, not their notes.

Lectures aren't paid to write lecture material so whether or not they rewrite them or copy them is irrelevant.

petrochemical

Boston wrote: »

Lectures aren't paid to write lecture material so whether or not they rewrite them or copy them is irrelevant.

Yes, they're paid to stand there and read out the lecture notes to people because people are babies who can't do it themselves. The notes are a cogged compilation of various stuff from books which people could quite possibly compile themselves if they had to. If they've any questions they can go on a message forum and they'd probably get a better answer than the lecturer would give them, and more than one opinion. This is a bit of a generalisation and of course there are exceptions but I'd say the majority of courses aren't too far off this.

Cantab.

I've followed all 30 hours of Prof Andrew Ng's (Stanford) lectures on Machine Learning and I have to say that the experience was astounding. The guy is a genius and I picked up a massive amount techniques and ideas that would take me 10 times longer to read out of a book. His assignments look pretty cool (if not scary), but I think I'd only do them if I really had to!

Who said absorbing new and complex information was hard? Watching online lectures is easy!

The only thing holding back such an initiative in Trinity is leadership, administrative resources and academic enthusiasm.

Boston

petrochemical wrote: »

Yes, they're paid to stand there and read out the lecture notes to people because people are babies who can't do it themselves. The notes are a cogged compilation of various stuff from books which people could quite possibly compile themselves if they had to. If they've any questions they can go on a message forum and they'd probably get a better answer than the lecturer would give them, and more than one opinion. This is a bit of a generalisation and of course there are exceptions but I'd say the majority of courses aren't too far off this.

You've no idea what you're talking about. It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to compile a decent set of lecture notes for a course, many of the best lecturers have spent years fine tuning their notes. Many american universities use online forums for class participation with students. It compliments the lecturing, it doesn't replace it.

mathew

petrochemical wrote: »

Yes, they're paid to stand there and read out the lecture notes to people because people are babies who can't do it themselves. The notes are a cogged compilation of various stuff from books which people could quite possibly compile themselves if they had to. If they've any questions they can go on a message forum and they'd probably get a better answer than the lecturer would give them, and more than one opinion. This is a bit of a generalisation and of course there are exceptions but I'd say the majority of courses aren't too far off this.

As well as what Boston said, for science/engineering courses* its not only necessary to read notes or a book but it is incredibly helpful to have someone go through examples and explain the stepts they are taking and the background behind what they are doing, with the option for any of the students to ask questions.
Its invaluable to have someone go through and explain the notes and methods to you, instead of just reading them in a book or in notes.

*I cant obviously speak for courses unlike engineering/science

Cantab.

Boston wrote: »

You've no idea what you're talking about. It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to compile a decent set of lecture notes for a course, many of the best lecturers have spent years fine tuning their notes. Many american universities use online forums for class participation with students. It compliments the lecturing, it doesn't replace it.

Maybe it's time to give postgrads and postdocs more responsibilities and ensure every professor his own secretary like they would have had up until recently.

Boston

Cantab. wrote: »

Maybe it's time to give postgrads and postdocs more responsibilities and ensure every professor his own secretary like they would have had up until recently.

The majority of lecturers in trinity would be postdocs or postgrads. Funding problems are the main reason for the lack of administrative staff, my own department spent several months last year without a secretary. It was never common practice for professors to have there own personal secretary. Finally, professors can be male or female.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Boston wrote: »

Finally, professors can be male or female.

Don't be a pedant. It's ugly and disruptive in text to see "his/her" everywhere...

Boston

One place. The implication was clear.

It would have been "every professor their own secretary". No need for he/she his/her's bull.

Fremen

Boston wrote: »

One place. The implication was clear.

It would have been "every professor there own secretary". No need for he/she his/her's bull.

Their.
If you're going to correct someone, don't make yourself look stupid in the process.

Many lecturers put their lecture notes up online anyway. I fail to see how posting video lectures is any different. If anything, a good video lecture series serves as an advertisement for the university.

Boston

I edited the post before you replied. If you're going to correct someone's spelling, try not to take so long.

Btw, way to miss the point.

Podge_irl

Boston wrote: »

The majority of lecturers in trinity would be postdocs or postgrads.

Really? I don't recall ever getting lectured by a postgrad or postdoc. Tutorials sure, but never lectured. Though I have no idea how it works outside the maths and physics departments.

Boston

Very common in engineering and CS. I can count on one hand the number of lecturers I had who were professors. Might have been different in physics where there was/is more money.

petrochemical

You've no idea what you're talking about. It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to compile a decent set of lecture notes for a course, many of the best lecturers have spent years fine tuning their notes. Many american universities use online forums for class participation with students. It compliments the lecturing, it doesn't replace it.

Maybe so but still alot of that knowledge is itself learned from books, so in a sense they are just editing other peoples work. I'd say in the future online forums could replace more and more the inefficient and sometimes pointless human interactions that people engage in the learning process. People do it more because its the way they know, not because its the best way. It arguably isn't in many cases.

mathew wrote: »

As well as what Boston said, for science/engineering courses* its not only necessary to read notes or a book but it is incredibly helpful to have someone go through examples and explain the stepts they are taking and the background behind what they are doing, with the option for any of the students to ask questions.
Its invaluable to have someone go through and explain the notes and methods to you, instead of just reading them in a book or in notes.

*I cant obviously speak for courses unlike engineering/science

What a load of bollo-x. If anything Science/Engineering are the easiest to learn from a book- particularly engineering. There's no reason why you couldn't teach yourself- if you really studied the book properly and did all the questions- the book is specifically laid out to cover all the angles. The writer refined it to do so. It may be helpful but is arguably not necessary to have someone help you. The problem is people don't want to do the hard work but instead act like imbeciles in school with their hand up in class- please show me, waaaaa! If it was a life or death situation and you had to learn from a book you'd soon learn!

Boston

I've my doubts, what I've seen of online course work hasn't impressed me. WebCT is terribly flawed for example.

I hate when people use the work "just" as if whatever they're describing is the easiest thing in the world. The lecturers job is to pick out whats relevant and present it as concisely as possible. I've read some atrocious txt books in my time, and you're simply wrong to suggest that any and all text books are better then a lecturer. There is definitely value to a real life human interaction.

Fremen

Only very few lecturers are ever professors. In the UK and Ireland, it's the highest academic rank you can achieve. In the UK at least, the progression is temporary postdoc -> lecturer -> reader -> professor.

It would be very unusual for a PhD student to teach a lecture course. They do marking and demonstrating, but not really lecturing.

Boston

Yea no, not how it works here*. Lecturer's not really a set position in a staffing structure. I know/known three PhD students who've lectured, the requirements seem very loose.

In trinity professorship isn't the highest academic rank you can achieve (fellow would be above prof) , and even within the professor "rank" there are levels.

*I can only really speak for engineering/cs schools.

John

petrochemical wrote: »

What a load of bollo-x. If anything Science/Engineering are the easiest to learn from a book- particularly engineering. There's no reason why you couldn't teach yourself- if you really studied the book properly and did all the questions- the book is specifically laid out to cover all the angles. The writer refined it to do so. It may be helpful but is arguably not necessary to have someone help you. The problem is people don't want to do the hard work but instead act like imbeciles in school with their hand up in class- please show me, waaaaa! If it was a life or death situation and you had to learn from a book you'd soon learn!

You've never marked any assignments, have you? The students who turn up to tutorials and lectures are the ones who answer the questions correctly (or at least understand what is being asked). Those that don't turn up tend not to answer the question being asked, let alone correctly.

And as for science/engineering being easiest to learn from a book, I'm not so sure about that. Yes, some stuff is very easy to learn from a book but some stuff really does require an interactive forum such as a lecture or a tutorial as science can quickly go from "That's obvious" to "WTF!!!!" in a short space of time. I tried to teach myself calculus once (to a level beyond what I learned in college) and failed miserably because books just don't answer your questions when you're stuck, no matter how much you talk to them.

Fremen wrote: »

It would be very unusual for a PhD student to teach a lecture course. They do marking and demonstrating, but not really lecturing.

Depends on the course and the department. I'm a PhD student and I've done marking, demonstrating, tutorials, lab supervision (for projects) and lectures (to a variety of years and courses). Granted I'm not currently in TCD but I know that my situation is not unique. Some departments utilise postgrads/postdocs almost exclusively and some use lecturers. Neither situation is unusual.

Cantab.

Universities to become irrelevant by 2020 according to a professor:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705298649/Universities-will-be-irrelevant.html

flerb22

in medicine, prof McCann "podcasts" all his lectures.

by podcast he of course means that he gets the audio recorded and synced up with the powerpoint and you can watch it as an mpeg

its kinda hilarious, but great if you dont understand something when going over the lectures again

http://www.medicine.tcd.ie/haematology/local/students/

Cantab.

Fair play to him. He should get nominated for the Provost's teaching award on that alone. A bit of competition amongst lecturers wouldn't go astray.

I wonder will the Physics department (one of the Colleges finest) and others be able to square up with Medicine.

flerb22

Cantab. wrote: »

Fair play to him. He should get nominated for the Provost's teaching award on that alone. A bit of competition amongst lecturers wouldn't go astray.

I wonder will the Physics department (one of the Colleges finest) and others be able to square up with Medicine.

he also gave away his textbook for free. what a guy :-)

i hope he reads this and figures out who i am and gives me lots of marks in the path exam now.

preilly79

snappieT wrote: »

Why should they be able to. Attend lectures. Too lazy to get out of bed, you shouldn't be getting the benefit of lectures.

Because some of us (<<< me) work full time jobs to support our families and study part-time in the evening (I won't mention what my taxes pay for). Work commitments mean that sometimes you just can't make classes.

snappieT

preilly79 wrote: »

Because some of us (<<< me) work full time jobs to support our families and study part-time in the evening (I won't mention what my taxes pay for). Work commitments mean that sometimes you just can't make classes.

That statement was directed at the day course people, to be honest.

That said, if you can't commit to the lecturing hours of an evening course, you probably shouldn't be doing it either.