Josef Fritz Italy Version

Biggins

A father who kept his daughter locked up for 25 years and raped her repeatedly along with his son has been arrested by Italian police.

The case has sent shock waves across the country and has already been dubbed Italy's version of the Josef Fritzl case.
Details of the 34-year-old woman's horrific ordeal were released by police at a press conference following the arrest of the 63-year-old man and his son aged 41.

Detectives said the woman's ordeal had begun when she was just nine years old and although she managed to escape once and tell police her father managed to convince them she was ''disturbed".
The woman, who is from Turin, has had very little formal education and was forced to live in a darkened room with no electricity and only allowed out with her father.
Detectives said that the woman's brother had also sexually abused his own children aged six, eight and 12.

The case was uncovered after a tip off and police planted listening devices in the family home and car and heard the horrific details being discussed.
A Turin police spokesman said: ''This is a terribly sad case. The woman had reported in 1994 that she was being raped but her claims were dismissed and it appears that this horrific sexual abuse continued for another 15 years.''

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Sick bastards, I can't begin to imagine how they were possibly able to keep it up for so long

dontcallmecrazy

i feel sick.

CountingCrows

Surely Italy should be kicked out of FIFA for this

Blisterman

CountingCrows wrote: »

Surely Italy should be kicked out of FIFA for this

What on earth does some weirdo raping his daughter have to do with soccer?

prendy

and to think the poor girl reported it 15 years ago. some people have alot to answer for.

Disease Ridden

Mamma Mia!! (said in a super mario accent)

kraggy

Blisterman wrote: »

What on earth does some weirdo raping his daughter have to do with soccer?

I think he was joking Blister.

Quazzie

Disease Ridden wrote: »

Mamma Mia!! (said in a super mario accent)

Isn't that a film about a girl with three fathers*.

That'd be much worse.




*Judging by that ads. I ain't ghey so don't know

Turd Ferguson

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I ain't ghey so don't know

You had me fooled

chin_grin

Dern Italians, think they're the best at everything!

Anyways, on a side note. Why the funk is AH a dumping ground of nearly all of Sky News' reports?

Dudess

Biggins wrote: »

A father who kept his daughter locked up for 25 years and raped her repeatedly along with his son has been arrested by Italian police.

That reads like he was raping his son also.

Biggins

Dudess wrote: »

That reads like he was raping his son also.

Thats what I thought at first too.
Very badly worded.

MissesMe

how does anyone end up doing something like that to someone, especially his own daughter, that is seriously fcked up

Professey Chin

Thats it. Any house I visit im askin to see the cellar 1st.........good god I hope that doesnt give them the wrong idea

biko

No no going down there is a bad idea. That's when they get you.

tech77

That's it.
There goes my faith in humanity.

I think i'm just going to assume all people (that i don't know at least) are evil scumbags from now on.

shotgun mike

initial media reports said he locked the daughter up - he didn't. she was free in the strict sense of the word. Psycologically however he dominated her from an early age, and she wouldn't go anywhere without him. His son did it to his own children, there was no real crossover.

I too think italy should get kicked out of FIFA for such a horrendous crime.

AckwelFoley

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Sick bastards, I can't begin to imagine how they were possibly able to keep it up for so long

True. 25 years is a long time banging the one chick

K4t

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

shotgun mike

snyper wrote: »

True. 25 years is a long time banging the one chick

True

GLaDOS

K4t wrote: »

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

They have a group, called the Catholic Church


/hides

mental07

K4t wrote: »

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

And his name will be Joe O'Fritzl....

K4t

ScienceNerd wrote: »

They have a group, called the Catholic Church


/hides

Well, ok, but I don't think anybody would be surprised at this stage if it turned out the Pope has a Vatican full of young Italian stallions.

In all seriousness, I think too much media coverage is given to these stories. It's widely agreed by criminal psychologists that consistent, non-stop reporting of these cases only leads to copy-cat crimes.

Professey Chin

K4t wrote: »

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

Dont be rediculous.No-one here could do that.
*locks door*........................what?

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Anyone that has a cellar in their home is weird in my book, doesn't matter if it's wine or sex slaves in it tbh

Gone West

K4t wrote: »

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

Hopefully never
<_<
>_>

K4t

Er, what age is Trappatoni, lads? :eek:

dr.bollocko

Not aiming this at anyone, a few posts have been deleted. I would just like to remind all that this is not the place for rape jokes.

GLaDOS

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Hopefully never
<_<
>_>

Your sig doesn't help your case

Biggins

K4t wrote: »

...In all seriousness, I think too much media coverage is given to these stories. It's widely agreed by criminal psychologists that consistent, non-stop reporting of these cases only leads to copy-cat crimes.

You might have good point but the flip side of that argument might be that, by exposing these scumbags, any future ones might think twice about such acts knowing nowadays that sooner or later, they stand a good chance of being exposed (through detective work, slip-ups, etc), caught, arrested and jailed.
Not saying I'm right. Just food for thought...

K4t

Biggins wrote: »

You might have good point but the flip side of that argument might be that, by exposing these scumbags, any future ones might think twice about such acts knowing nowadays that sooner or later, they stand a good chance of being exposed (through detective work, slip-ups, etc), caught, arrested and jailed.
Not saying I'm right. Just food for thought...

Oh, by all means report the cases and expose the bastards. But f**ks sake that Fritzl case was on the news for weeks after it was discovered. People should be made aware at the time and at the trial. But the media glam them up and milk the stories for all they're worth, often sensationalising parts too.

GLaDOS

K4t wrote: »

Oh, by all means report the cases and expose the bastards. But f**ks sake that Fritzl case was on the news for weeks after it was discovered. People should be made aware at the time and at the trial. But the media glam them up and milk the stories for all they're worth, often sensationalising parts too.

In fairness, it was a 24/7 news station's wet dream =/

Biggins

K4t wrote: »

Oh, by all means report the cases and expose the bastards. But f**ks sake that Fritzl case was on the news for weeks after it was discovered. People should be made aware at the time and at the trial. But the media glam them up and milk the stories for all they're worth, often sensationalising parts too.

Very true. Sadly thats the tabloid world mentality we live in. Anything for sales.
In an ideal world, a compromise would be reached. Sadly, we all know that won't happen.

I scratch my head as to what's the right way to do these things...

K4t

ScienceNerd wrote: »

In fairness, it was a 24/7 news station's wet dream =/

Off-topic: But I've never had a wet dream.

The media are a profit making organisation who only have their own interests at heart at the end of the day.

Riddle101

It's sick, makes you wonder if there are many other people out there suffering at the moment while nobody has any idea

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Riddle101 wrote: »

It's sick, makes you wonder if there are many other people out there suffering at the moment while nobody has any idea

I'm sure theres loads... drug addicts, battered wives, children living in poverty. The only difference really is that those issues don't harbour as much sensationalism. Fcuk, I hate the media

arybvtcw0eolkf

snyper wrote: »

True. 25 years is a long time banging the one chick

Yea, I'd go Maddy!..

:P

Alcatel

Wonder how many old men have their daughters locked up downstairs?

Also, I guess it's worth pointing out that even in cases where the kids aren't locked down in the basement, incest-rape is far more common than we'd like the imagine. For the guy who goes to the extremes of building a basement prison, there's probably ten just raping their kids in the home till they grow older, when they keep their mouth shut.

I recall about ten or more years ago there were even ads on TV warning about it (pop stars and such on the cover of a magazine with their eyes covered as you hear a man saying "This will be our little secret", or something like that.) I guess it fell out of popularity, and now to shock and make news you have to have had your daughter locked downstairs for 20 years?

Dave!

K4t wrote: »

****s sake, this is getting ridiculous now. How long before word breaks of an Irish Fritzl?!Sickening.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0122/roscommon.html

Not far off tbh

naasface

i know it ain't pc but the title of this thread made me laugh out loud.
"italy version"

Biggins

Sadly, these are not only cases.

Colombia: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7970414.stm

A Colombian man has appeared in court accused of imprisoning his daughter and fathering 11 children with her.
Arcedio Alvarez is said to have abused his daughter, now in her 30s, since she was nine years old.

The article brings up a good question.
Should those that rape children go to jail (when found guilty) for life?
I think so - sadly there will always be someone who will cry over such a jail time shouting "what about his human rights!" :rolleyes:

sick sick sick.

makes you wonder how much this goes on..

Biggins

Deleted User wrote: »

sick sick sick.

makes you wonder how much this goes on..

Depressingly, more than we will ever know.

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

Depressingly, more than we will ever know.

2 girls i've been friends with to the point where they could tell me something serious have been abused when they were under 9.

Dudess

Yeah, I've lost count of the number of people I know who were sexually abused as children by a relative. I wonder was there a time (only ending quite recently) when it was actually accepted, just not spoken of?

Biggins wrote: »

The article brings up a good question.
Should those that rape children go to jail (when found guilty) for life?

Well I don't think there's anything controversial in that question - I'd imagine most people would agree child rapists should go to prison for life.

sadly there will always be someone who will cry over such a jail time shouting "what about his human rights!" :rolleyes:

Hardly (the vast majority of the time). It's when unimaginable tortures as revenge are spoken of that people shout "what about human rights?!"

MagicMarker

This is made so much worse by the fact that she escaped and went straight to the police, who did nothing.:(

Biggins

Dudess wrote: »

Hardly (the vast majority of the time). It's when unimaginable tortures as revenge are spoken of that people shout "what about human rights?!"

Believe it or not, there is still some out there that cry about locking someone up for the rest of their lives than keeping an incurable perverted scumbag off the streets.

Backtracking - I too know of too many females, close to home and elsewhere that have been abused.
(Because of this, I do fund raising for a crises centre in Lesson st)
It just frustrating sick madness. Sometimes on the angered occasion I think China has the right idea - a bullet in the back of the head.
Game over!

994

Dave! wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0122/roscommon.html

Not far off tbh

But that's different, she's a woman! She needs care and sympathy and four years in a two-star hotel "prison".

Dudess

Why do people keep saying prison is like a modest hotel and that prisoners get a "flatscreen TV, a DVD player and a games console"? What's the point of such bull****?
That woman should have got a far, far longer sentence but prison is not a nice place - all the worse if your crime was violating children.

Biggins

Dudess wrote: »

Why do people keep saying prison is like a modest hotel and that prisoners get a "flatscreen TV, a DVD player and a games console"? What's the point of such bull****?

Its a side issue but for the record...
Sorry to disagree but many prisoners get these things provided they behave themselves inside. Its (the items) used as a methods to subdue the numbers in side from further misbehaving.
One recent case of this alone was the scumbag Gilligan (Veronica Guerin connection) who was found to have these items in his cell. They would still be there only for the fact that he took the piss and abused and threatened the wardens there. The ensuing publicity meant that they were taken away.
He had all the above you quoted (and the mobile phones he was not mean to have).
He is NOT on his own with these items.

They are in not just four plain walls and a room any more - which is a damn shame!

GANGLAND boss John Gilligan has demanded the return of a plasma wide screen TV set, which was seized from his cell during a two-day search of the maximum security Portlaoise jail.

It was one of three wide screen sets and a DVD player included in a substantial haul of contraband recovered by staff during the searches...

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...and he is just one prisoner that can be used as an example!
They also get recreation rooms, weight training rooms, etc.

It should come as no surprise then that some people see prisons nowadays as facilitated as much as "holiday camps"