Pilot prays rather than fly his plane - 16 dead

mike65

Religion eh?

From reuters

A Tunisian pilot who paused to pray instead of taking emergency measures before crash-landing his plane, killing 16 people, has been sentenced to 10 years in jail by an Italian court along with his co-pilot.

The 2005 crash at sea off Sicily left survivors swimming for their lives, some clinging to a piece of the fuselage that remained floating after the ATR turbo-prop aircraft splintered upon impact.

A fuel-gauge malfunction was partly to blame but prosecutors also said the pilot succumbed to panic, praying out loud instead of following emergency procedures and then opting to crash-land the plane instead trying to reach a nearby airport.

Another five employees of Tuninter, a subsidiary of Tunisair, were sentenced to between eight and nine years in jail by the court, in a verdict handed down yesterday.

The seven accused, who were not in court, will not spend time in jail until the appeals process has been exhausted.

My name is URL

So was this an Act of God?

connundrum

mike65 wrote: »

Another five employees of Tuninter, a subsidiary of Tunisair, were sentenced to between eight and nine years in jail by the court, in a verdict handed down yesterday.

Were they praying with him on the ground

And in fairness, the praying worked i.e. he was saved!

Wagon

What a tit.

AnonoBoy

He's only an idiot if he was praying to one of them eastern gods. He if he was praying to our nice wholesome western god then it's alright.

Gone Drinking

Retardsville, population.. that guy.

Dragan

Jesus saves.....on air fare.

Genghiz Cohen

AnonoBoy wrote: »

He's only an idiot if he was praying to one of them eastern gods. He if he was praying to our nice wholesome western god then it's alright.

TheIntarwebs wrote:

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Dudess

I don't think he's completely responsible - the church that convinced him this was the way to go about things has a good deal to answer for also, in my opinion.
I know he's an adult and responsible for himself, but the profound effect religion has on some individuals can't be underestimated.

Gone Drinking

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think he's completely responsible - the church that convinced him this was the way to go about things has a good deal to answer for also, in my opinion.
I know he's an adult and responsible for himself, but the profound effect religion has on some individuals can't be underestimated.

He was a trained pilot, trained to deal with emergency situations. He's completely responsible

AnonoBoy

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

The sarcasm detector it is needing the repairs, yes?

Genghiz Cohen

No, just like to point out how horrible religion is whenever I get the chance.

Hobbes

Reminds me of the guy who kept praying to God to let him win the lotto. Week after week he didn't win and kept praying. Finally God came down and said to the guy "Will you ever buy a feckin ticket".

Kill Count for last 2000 years.

Religion - millions
Atheism - zero

People Saved in last 2000 years

Religion - zero
Atheism - zero
Science - millions.

Dudess

Gone Drinking wrote: »

He was a trained pilot, trained to deal with emergency situations. He's completely responsible

Very true. I retract my previous statement.

OldGoat

I never thought I'd be defending religion but here goes...It wasn't religeon that caused the aircrash* it was the pilots panic which manifested itself as praying, and in his panic he forget his training.
He might as well have been in the cockpit calling for his mammy and the resulting plane crash would have been the same outcome.
Critiqueing him for praying to his god in panic is a mistake however ridiculing him for forgetting his training and panicing in the first place is perfectly OK.
What a halfwit, don't they train these pilots anymore?

*Unless the plane was struck down by one of the angry gods

CiaranC

Deleted User wrote: »

Kill Count for last 2000 years.

Religion - millions
Atheism - zero

Mao and Stalin say HELLO

Dragan

Deleted User wrote: »

Kill Count for last 2000 years.

Religion - millions
Atheism - zero

My only issue with that is it implies that people who do not believe in a Higher Power can do no wrong...if you added up all the murders performed by people with no set religious creed i would imagine it gets pretty high?

Dragan

Dragan wrote: »

My only issue with that is it implies that people who do not believe in a Higher Power can do no wrong...if you added up all the murders performed by people with no set religious creed i would imagine it gets pretty high?

i just mean the killings where religion is the cause..

CiaranC

CiaranC wrote: »

Mao and Stalin say HELLO

i'm not splitting everything that's ever happened into religion/atheism.

just saying that alot more people die in the name of religion than in the name of atheism.

ejmaztec

Deleted User wrote: »

Kill Count for last 2000 years.

Religion - millions
Atheism - zero

People Saved in last 2000 years

Religion - zero
Atheism - zero
Science - millions.

Wrong section.:P

Manach

Considering how linked Athesim was with the totalitarian concepts of the 20th century or the excesses of the French and Russian revolutions, that count of 0 seems a tad low?

Dragan

Deleted User wrote: »

i just mean the killings where religion is the cause..

In that case your point is completely off.

No offence, but you cannot compare people who believe versus those who don't believe around an element of belief.

It's completely skewed and unfair.

Mr.Lizard

Yes, but what about all the times when there's an emergency onboard a plane and God DOES step-in and save everyone aboard?!?!

You never here those stories in the news! Biased media!

ok whatever. i really don't like the religion topic so not gonna post about it anymore.

Disease Ridden

I REALLY hate internet atheists!

telemachus

Deleted User wrote: »

ok whatever. i really don't like the religion topic

You probably shouldn't open with broad sweeping and inaccurate statements about the topic then, that has a habit of creating debate.

Dave!

Obviously prayed to the wrong god

mike65

One could argue that the "Year Zero" style beliefs of Stalin and Mao were religions in themselves.

telemachus

telemachus wrote: »

You probably shouldn't open with broad sweeping and inaccurate statements about the topic then, that has a habit of creating debate.

oh well i'll learn from my mistakes then won't i.


as far as the news story goes, if i had been flying, i'd have prayed to santa claus, at least he may have been able to catch me in his sleigh better than that guy's god saved his plane.

Dragan

mike65 wrote: »

One could argue that the "Year Zero" style beliefs of Stalin and Mao were religions in themselves.

Bingo. They enforced an alternative belief system at the end of the day.