anarchists gear up for G20 Protests

delop

Did anyone see this guy on the channel 4 news?

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/direct+action+this+weekend/3044372

Crazy stuff, don't know how he is not arrested for incitement to riot.

"mutually assured destruction" sounds scary, had me wondering what would happen if this was a Muslim group, me thinks it would be a very different conversation....

biko

http://www.channel4.com/news/media/2009/03/day23/23_protest_r_b.jpg

Hande hoche!

Send in Robocop.

RATM

Nothing like a good G20 ruck

jtsuited

this is going to be hilarious. a bunch of rich kids trying to give their lives a purpose by throwing their mates through a McDonalds window.

Wonder what would happen if a load of English chavs showed up. The crusties wouldn't be too interested in a working class revolution then.

blackgold>>

anarchists gear up for G20 Protests

i like the phrase, bankers stole all the countries money and asked for seconds is better.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

jtsuited wrote: »

this is going to be hilarious. a bunch of rich kids trying to give their lives a purpose by throwing their mates through a McDonalds window.

Wonder what would happen if a load of English chavs showed up. The crusties wouldn't be too interested in a working class revolution then.

Interesting how confused "what you would have liked to have happened" with "what actually did happen" in order to make yourself feel a little less insecure.

delop

I dont know guys they might have a point, the capitalists have fallen, but they are not stepping aside for some new ideas, they are bailed out by us and we all know they will stick it to us again, when they get back on their feet

Well im sure they are thinking along those lines

I like the capitalism days TBH

Mr.Lizard

A few years in the army, that would sort them all out!

jtsuited

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Interesting how confused "what you would have liked to have happened" with "what actually did happen" in order to make yourself feel a little less insecure.

huh?

Dyr

i think we should make it a spectator sport event, i love watching the riot cops kicking these wasters around. I just wish they were a bit more creative in their approach, batons are so inefficient.

jtsuited

Bambi wrote: »

batons are so inefficient.

and a little obvious.

Fratton Fred

A few years ago, during the May Day stop the city riots, a few of these tree hugging soap dodgers got into one of the exchanges in London. I can't remember which one, but it was one of the last exchanges with a trading floor.

The traders were waiting for them inside. about a dozen anarchists got the crap beaten out of them...they didn't go back the following year

Degsy

I think the cops in indonesia have the right idea.
They fill the water canon truck with a amixture of CS gas,water,purple dye and sewage.
The hippies will be considerably smellier after an encounter with that lot!

Rented Mule

Organised anarchists

Irony is SO lost on peolle these days.

Fratton Fred

Degsy wrote: »

I think the cops in indonesia have the right idea.
They fill the water canon truck with a amixture of CS gas,water,purple dye and sewage.
The hippies will be considerably smellier after an encounter with that lot!

not possible

Degsy

Fratton Fred wrote: »

not possible

Well then just run the over with tanks like the chinese do..tax a few stinkbags off the live register.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Oh, the humanity stereotyping!

Degsy

"Anarchists" my hole.
They probably live at home with thier rich parents and go to college to waste a few more years before its time to join the real world.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

"Anarchists" my hole.
They probably live at home with thier rich parents and go to college to waste a few more years before its time to join the real world.

The use of this word is a massive step forward for you! Now if we can just get you to read some news and learn a few things about research, you might make an informed contributor yet! Well done!

994

Rented Mule wrote: »

Organised anarchists

Irony is SO lost on peolle these days.

Anarchists are opposed to state power, not organisation per se. But I'm impressed at your handling of stereotypes. I suppose all gays are camp cross-dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS.

Stay_in_Kampuchea

994 wrote: »

Anarchists are opposed to state power, not organisation per se. But I'm impressed at your handling of stereotypes. I suppose all gays are camp cross-dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS.

Youre a camp cross-dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS

Rented Mule

994 wrote: »

Anarchists are opposed to state power, not organisation per se. But I'm impressed at your handling of stereotypes. I suppose all gays are camp cross-dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS.

Did I hit a nerve with the gay, camp, cross dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS ?

I didn't realise that they were organised anarchists as well.

Fizman

Bambi wrote: »

I just wish they were a bit more creative in their approach, batons are so inefficient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1pNO11bjI

FTW

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Rented Mule wrote: »

Did I hit a nerve with the gay, camp, cross dressing effete makeup artists with AIDS ?

I didn't realise that they were organised anarchists as well.

That's probably because you did know read all about the situation, were too lazy to read up on it and just jumped in with wild assumptions and vague guesswork.

Degsy

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

That's probably because you did know read all about the situation, were too lazy to read up on it and just jumped in with wild assumptions and vague guesswork.

Thats what i did too..informed guesswork i would call it.
I hate people who consider themsleves anarchist in this day and age..they're clueless idiots,hypocrites and usually upper-middle class sell out merchant richkids.
Hows that for a wild assumption?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

Thats what i did too..informed guesswork i would call it.

You are never informed when it comes to social issues and world politics. Unless of course, you can name a source?

I hate people who consider themsleves anarchist in this day and age..they're clueless idiots,hypocrites and usually upper-middle class sell out merchant richkids.
Hows that for a wild assumption?

The bit in bold I pretty much agree with. Their backgrounds, I have no idea about and prefer NOT to make wild assumptions upon. I seriously doubt you have read anything worthwhile (and unbiased) on the issue, but will hold my hands up if you can link to something.

admiralofthefleet

while they are rioting they had better be careful not to smash their dole office

pablomakaveli

Anarchist=Retard+Langer+Geebag+Retard Again

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Capitalist=Retard+Langer+Geebag+Retard Again

FYP

SoWatchaWant

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

FYP

Capitalism has its flaws. But in general it runs ok (yes, even though we're in recession).

Got a better solution?

joseph brand

My Da calls em 'The Smellies'.

So do I.

They probably come from old money, ie. families with estates. They don't need time off work to protest. Because they don't WORK!

They should threaten them that if arrested, they will be given social housing in Darndale, with a job in Tesco's working nights early mornings.

That'll learn em'. That'll learn em' good!

Exneigh

Don't forget that a lot of times these demo's turn ugly its because there are Agent provocateurs there who kick it off!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbgnyUCC7M

they where caught by the bollox doing it in Canada last year!

It's a media war!

bobbbb

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

The use of this word is a massive step forward for you! Now if we can just get you to read some news and learn a few things about research, you might make an informed contributor yet! Well done!

Great name for a crusty.

Why not get water cannons loaded with soap and shampoo. They'll run so fast in the opposite direction then.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Capitalism has its flaws. But in general it runs ok (yes, even though we're in recession).

In theory, yes, I agree, but recent events would point that humanity is too flawed and too greedy for a capitalist society to work.

As regards "better colutions"; I'd point at Scandavian models where people are placed before profits, resulting in a much fairer and much more open system. It's still capitalist, but it's a little more left and has a much better balance.

Jo Brand wrote:

My Da calls em 'The Smellies'.

So do I.

They probably come from old money, ie. families with estates. They don't need time off work to protest. Because they don't WORK!

They should threaten them that if arrested, they will be given social housing in Darndale, with a job in Tesco's working nights early mornings.

That'll learn em'. That'll learn em' good!

Probably, probably, probably.... another lazy wonder who can't be arsed reading something.
Calls who the smellies? The anachists? I though that was a lable more for hippies? Ask him next time you see him.

That'll TEACH them. That'll TEACH them WELL.

bobbbb wrote: »

Great name for a crusty.

Why not get water cannons loaded with soap and shampoo. They'll run so fast in the opposite direction then.

Yeah.... that'll work... :rolleyes:

The problem is that, if you look beyond the stereotyopes, you might actually see that there IS an agenda behind all this. Admittedly, they're going about it in completely the wrong way and doing themselves no favours whatsoever (and for the recond, NO, I do NOT support them), but you can't solve a porblem like anarchism without first understanding it, and people are waaaay too lazy to try understanding something.

javaboy

Ikky please tone it down a little.

lostexpectation

smash windows oh dear, wheres the violence?

lostexpectation

the professor was bit silly, bit dramatic

Nodin

delop wrote: »

Did anyone see this guy on the channel 4 news?

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/direct+action+this+weekend/3044372

Crazy stuff, don't know how he is not arrested for incitement to riot.

"mutually assured destruction" sounds scary, had me wondering what would happen if this was a Muslim group, me thinks it would be a very different conversation....

Silly old git. If you're going to do something like that, its best not to advertise. He's probably trying to impress some young one.

Nodin

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

In theory, yes, I agree, but recent events would point that humanity is too flawed and too greedy for a capitalist society to work.

As regards "better colutions"; I'd point at Scandavian models where people are placed before profits, resulting in a much fairer and much more open system. It's still capitalist, but it's a little more left and has a much better balance.

True words. People before profit.

Fratton Fred

Whereas the trade unions holding the country to ransom so they can get their payrise, at a time when half the country is having their paycut is a great demonstration of how socialism works

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Whereas the trade unions holding the country to ransom so they can get their payrise, at a time when half the country is having their paycut is a great demonstration of how socialism works

Not sure I'd want to go down the socialist route either.

Nodin

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Whereas the trade unions holding the country to ransom so they can get their payrise, at a time when half the country is having their paycut is a great demonstration of how socialism works

Theres considerably more to it than that. Theres the perception and fact that theres been no real move to engineer a more equitable tax regime. Unfortunately it takes a crisis to motivate people to get off their arses to do anything about it.

It should be pointed out that this kind of thing is hardly conducive to asking anyone, anywhere to taking any sort of cut....
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/docklands-chief-quits-post-in-836447m-tax-loophole-storm-1684877.html?start=2
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/fingleton-resists-pressure-from-government-to-quit-1684881.html

Dyr

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Whereas the trade unions holding the country to ransom so they can get their payrise, at a time when half the country is having their paycut is a great demonstration of how socialism works

As opposed to the banks having the taxpayer risk our entire economy to bail out their private businesses being a great demonstation of how capitalism works?

Sure wasnt rampant socialism that got us into this mess..

Degsy

Nodin wrote: »

True words. People before profit.

So you give all your money to the poor then?

Nodin

Degsy wrote: »

So you give all your money to the poor then?

O look, Reductio Ab Absurdum.

If I gave all my money to the poor, I would myself be poor and therefore part of the problem. However, should I and others give some money to the poor, we increase their wellbeing at no great cost to myself.

Degsy

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You are never informed when it comes to social issues and world politics. Unless of course, you can name a source?



The bit in bold I pretty much agree with. Their backgrounds, I have no idea about and prefer NOT to make wild assumptions upon. I seriously doubt you have read anything worthwhile (and unbiased) on the issue, but will hold my hands up if you can link to something

Here we go again "Can you link to something..can you name a source..blah blah blah".
What an utter load of rubbish you come out with.
You accuse me of being misinformed when the sad fact is that you know absolutely nothing about anything.
Nonsensical ideas aout howe to bring up kids when you have no kids,taking a contary position on a host of subjects you know nothing about and this constant bleating to back things up with links.
How old are you?twenties?Something like that?A former student i'll bet as well?
I know waht i'm talking about because i was knocking around with people who considered themselves anarchists when you were shiiting in your nappies.
I met people who were ALF activists,people who constantly plotted to burn down mcdonalds,blow up laboratories,people who lived on communes,new age travellers the lot.
Almost without exception these people were from well to do families and were very well spoken.
The idea of anarchism and militant vegetarianism had its roots in the 1980's post punk movement started by bands like Crass and Conflict.
As with a lot of people led by music,the followers adopted the lifestyle off the peg which in a lot of cases cost money to do.
Mommy and daddy gave them the money to buy combats and smoke dope all day..and mommy and daddy were usually never too far in the background should things not go to well with the new lifestyle.
I knew a blok who rented a falt in the north circular road with a few of his mates and every week he'd bum a cheque off his father for the rent...he got fined for smashing up a fur shop and his dad payed the money before sonny dear had a chance to go to jail.
That was then,people now are far less militant and more complacent.
If you dont beleive me about the kids who call t hem,selves anarchists nowadays just look at the clothes they wear..they may be scruffy for effect but they are NOT poor.

el_tiddlero

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Capitalism has its flaws. But in general it runs ok (yes, even though we're in recession).

Got a better solution?

yes. go here http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

Here we go again "Can you link to something..can you name a source..blah blah blah".
What an utter load of rubbish you come out with.
You accuse me of being misinformed when the sad fact is that you know absolutely nothing about anything.

Of course I do. I accused you of guessing and being uninfromed. Your word is not sacred and has to be backed up like mine and everyone elses. Sometimes, yes, I tend to know nothing about something, in whcih case I don't post on the thread.

Nonsensical ideas aout howe to bring up kids when you have no kids,taking a contary position on a host of subjects you know nothing about and this constant bleating to back things up with links.

I've lived with kids, worked with kids and probably spent more hours with kids than most adults do, but we're getting off the point here.

How old are you?twenties?Something like that?A former student i'll bet as well?

Wrong on both counts - I'm 38 and with the exception of three night courses, have done no formal education since the leaving cert. Most of my experience comes from travel and living abroad and seeing how other societies work; as well as seeing the pain greed and crass capitalism causes people. Look around: there are a lot of miserable people about.

I know waht i'm talking about because i was knocking around with people who considered themselves anarchists when you were shiiting in your nappies.

That would put you you late 60s/early 70s? Would be interested in hearing your experiences though: were you one yourself, or just hang out with them? What were their motives, or how did they see their 'perfect' world?

I met people who were ALF activists,people who constantly plotted to burn down mcdonalds,blow up laboratories,people who lived on communes,new age travellers the lot.
Almost without exception these people were from well to do families and were very well spoken.

Now we're getting somewhere. Keep talking.

The idea of anarchism and militant vegetarianism had its roots in the 1980's post punk movement started by bands like Crass and Conflict.
As with a lot of people led by music,the followers adopted the lifestyle off the peg which in a lot of cases cost money to do.

Fair enough, but why did I have to drag it out of you?

Mommy and daddy gave them the money to buy combats and smoke dope all day..and mommy and daddy were usually never too far in the background should things not go to well with the new lifestyle.

Ah, but there were parents so they knew more about looking after kids and stopping them from becoming criminals than any one else, don't they?

I knew a blok who rented a falt in the north circular road with a few of his mates and every week he'd bum a cheque off his father for the rent...he got fined for smashing up a fur shop and his dad payed the money before sonny dear had a chance to go to jail.

Agree - let the fecker deal with the consequneces of his own actions.

That was then,people now are far less militant and more complacent.
If you dont beleive me about the kids who call t hem,selves anarchists nowadays just look at the clothes they wear..they may be scruffy for effect but they are NOT poor.

Interesting background. If you'd come out with this earlier on it would have saved a lot of hassle. Personally, I don't approve of their methods but I believe there is some misguided notion behind their actions rather than just pointless vandalism. Did you ever manage to find out what they thought they were doing?

Outr of interest, what age group do you yourself fall into?

javaboy

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Wrong on both counts - I'm 38 and with the exception of three night courses, have done no formal education since the leaving cert.
...

That would put you you late 60s/early 70s?

But that's not possible! You disagree with Degsy therefore you must be a young student. :pac:

Nodin

javaboy wrote: »

But that's not possible! You disagree with Degsy therefore you must be a young student. :pac:

...asked for sources too, the trolling shite-stirrer....must be unemployed too....