Why is halo 3 famous?

uber gamer

I think that Halo 1 and 2 are a lot better than Halo 3. Why is Halo 3 more famous?

mikemac

Marketing hype.

sweetie

eh, it's the newest and first on the 360?

Sabre0001

Big push from Microsoft & Bungie. Used in professional gaming tournaments (MLG, World Cyber Games, etc) at a time when this niche is getting more attention.

smooch71

It's called exposure overkill

I thought all 3 Halo games were a pile of crap but felt I had to play them in case I was missing out on something. A bit like Lost, you'll watch it even though you know its rubbish.

rizzla

Excellent marketing with bottomless pockets. If the Halo franchise was multi-platform it wouldn't have been half as successful.

rizzla

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Pure bull, the halo series has an truly excellent background story with rich characters. The games themselves have excellent graphics, amazing soundtracks, simple yet enjoyable gameplay, brilliant multiplayer options and the backing of the console manufacturer.

Lots of games have all the things you've listed and aren't nearly as popular. If you take out the part I have bolded it would be in the same pile as those.

Epic Tissue

rizzla wrote: »

Excellent marketing with bottomless pockets. If the Halo franchise was multi-platform it wouldn't have been half as successful.

Agreed.

Creamy Goodness

smooch71 wrote: »

It's called exposure overkill

I thought all 3 Halo games were a pile of crap but felt I had to play them in case I was missing out on something. A bit like Lost, you'll watch it even though you know its rubbish.

i would use this analogy except substitute lost for a show that is actually ****e like fair city.

actually no wait that's an insult to fair city.

hmm i'll be back with a ****ter show.

Masada

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

i would use this analogy except substitute lost for a show that is actually ****e like fair city.

actually no wait that's an insult to fair city.

hmm i'll be back with a ****ter show.

Glenroe..:D


I loved the first 2 Halo games, I got the third one simply because i wanted to know the rest of the story and hoped it would be as good as the others. i personally didnt think it was, although it was still a decent game. I think a lot of its success is based in its great online gameplay and the fact that its part of a series so people will always want to follow through..

Retr0gamer

It's the same reason people like coldplay and voted for hitler.

Shiminay

It's an ok game, but it's not as good as it's made out to be. However, it's fun on multiplayer, esp when you start playing around with the map settings (all Gravity Hammers and Rocket Launchers and weird gravity is a great laugh).

Vegeta

The Halo games are way over hyped but they are not bad games.

Reasons I like Halo 3:
Its a well made game. Cant remember any bugs at all in it. Decent graphics, good score. Controls are solid.
Enemy AI has always been decent in Halo games, didn't stand out as much as the original Halo though.
Improved on the level design compared to the end of the original Halo.
Vehicles are fun.
An amazing game for a LAN, the multiplayer campaign is great fun and the amount of customisation available is great for some PoP action.
Oh I like the 2 weapons thing also

Reasons I dislike Halo 3:
Story, personally think its **** and never got into it in any of the Halo games. Leaves one feeling a little detached.
Not a huge fan of ranked games on Live either

silvine

The single-player is average but it has great multiplayer. It's easy to get the hang off, the ranking systems usually pits you against people of similar skill and Bungie are constantly updating and tweaking the playlists so it stays fresh. And there is a huge amount of game-types.

Creamy Goodness

Vegeta wrote: »

Its a well made game. Cant remember any bugs at all in it. Decent graphics, good score. Controls are solid.

major bug in it that when it's installed on the hard drive it actually preforms worse.

Retr0gamer

It's not their fault really. It was made well before the hard disk install and it performs worse because it was caching on to the hard disk in the first place to improve loading.

RAIN

Deep Breath


whatever you think of the story, the production values and the 4 player FPS with fantastic Vehicle sections spread across huge detailed environments against some of the best AI in the business has to do it for you on at least some level.

If that Doesn't then the painstakingly produced back-story coming to a climax might do it for you.

Maybe that doesn't? How about forge ? It was Little Big Planet for FPS before they made it for platforms. Huge developer support for these community made levels + game types.

How about an outstanding game engine that runs without a blip, a game engine that while may not have the polish that the likes of gears has, performs as a living breathing hazardas environment ( as anyone whose ever been killed by a flying Cone will testify too).

How about probably the best online multiplayer modes available to man ? sure allot depends on who your playing with and because most of them are American there going to cheat, but a good game of Halo online imo is better then anything else you iv played. Getting a double no scope kill on team snipers yesterday was better then and COD or Killzone if played the day before.

That would be enough (for me anyway) but no its not enough for bungie,they monitor the playlists and change them if not weekly then monthly.

You have a stats filled website that goes beyond the anything iv seen before. Heat maps ,kills maps, Maps with any screen shots taking from the game - all at the click of a mouse. Videos, montages, machima, competitions , its forth round of DLC maps. 2 they gave away free. New achievements.

Sick of FPS?
Rocket Race.Grift Ball. Grenade Volley Ball. Storm the beach.

Its the only FPS console game I believe that requires real skill in the form of Lateral thinking , how else could there be professional athletes who play Halo for a living, these guys aren't just good gamers there professionals who can shell out the goods regularly.



This level of game play and ingenuity supported by a major corporation that could have just flung out a run of the mill sequel.....its a miracle. Like Turning air into Gold.

Halo 3 is like turning air into gold.

Just my pretentious opinion.

smooch71

I still think it's crap

Vegeta

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

major bug in it that when it's installed on the hard drive it actually preforms worse.

That straw you snatched at was just outside your grasp

the_syco

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Pure bull, the halo series has an truly excellent background story with rich characters. The games themselves have excellent graphics, amazing soundtracks, simple yet enjoyable gameplay, brilliant multiplayer options and the backing of the console manufacturer.

You broke my sarcasm detector, due to the overload of possible sarcasm!

Can you play 32 player DM in H3 yet?

RAIN wrote: »

how else could there be professional athletes who play Halo for a living

They make lots of money. It all comes down to that. Not how well they play, it's how much money they can make from it.

RAIN

But they cant make money unless they beat people.........they have to be good to beat people.............otherwise to be a professional Halo player i just need to want to make money .........thats a good point you made.Well thought out.

Hows you sarcasm detector now ?

What other Pro sports does your theory work for ????? I like olympic curling? and i want money ?? Am i a pro ?

Retr0gamer

RAIN wrote: »

If that Doesn't then the painstakingly produced back-story coming to a climax might do it for you.

You mean the same storyline as space invaders with added delusions of pretention. Halo 1 it was decent. After that it was a total mess.

RAIN wrote:

Maybe that doesn't? How about forge ? It was Little Big Planet for FPS before they made it for platforms. Huge developer support for these community made levels + game types.

You mean that sad excuse for a level editor? Games from the last generation of consoles and since Doom on hte PC gave players access to full intuitive level editing tools. Comparing forge which lets you change around weapons placement and spawn points to a full level editor like little big planet is silly.

RAIN wrote:

How about an outstanding game engine that runs without a blip, a game engine that while may not have the polish that the likes of gears has, performs as a living breathing hazardas environment ( as anyone whose ever been killed by a flying Cone will testify too).

A game engine that runs at near SD resolutions and doesn't look all that impressive in all honesty.

RAIN wrote:

How about probably the best online multiplayer modes available to man ? sure allot depends on who your playing with and because most of them are American there going to cheat, but a good game of Halo online imo is better then anything else you iv played. Getting a double no scope kill on team snipers yesterday was better then and COD or Killzone if played the day before.

I'll give you one thing. 4 players playing over live on one console is excellent and it's a disgrace that more games don't have it. While multiplayer is fun I feel it's outclassed by much better games. Was at a lan yesterday and we didn't play Halo. We played the Steam games and CoD 4 because quite frankly they are better.

RAIN wrote:

Its the only FPS console game I believe that requires real skill in the form of Lateral thinking

Go play Quake and Unreal tournament for a real skill based FPS

RAIN wrote:

how else could there be professional athletes who play Halo for a living, these guys aren't just good gamers there professionals who can shell out the goods regularly.

Athletes is a bit much. Saddo's that play the same game hours on end more like. Bet they get all the girls.

RAIN wrote:

This level of game play and ingenuity supported by a major corporation that could have just flung out a run of the mill sequel
Halo 3 is like turning air into gold.

It was a run of the mill sequel. It was a rehash of Halo 2 with the Flood cut out (other than those two woeful levels). It added nothing new to the formula.

RAIN

100
GamePro
It's solid gameplay, immense replayability, online functionality and incredible production values will ensure its place in video game history, and it is, without a doubt, a satisfying and fulfilling close to the beloved trilogy[?].

100
GameSpy
The Forge is a gargantuan achievement that puts game design in the hands of players, daring you to be creative and invent a Halo 3 multiplayer experience all your own. Of course, the multiplayer is every bit as astonishing as it has been in past iterations and even eclipses its predecessors in many respects.

100
EuroGamer
The best game yet in one of the best FPS franchises of the era. Better than either of its predecessors, Halo 3 still can't quite escape the category of flawed masterpiece - but this time around, the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down.

100
Games Radar (in-house)
The single player is bigger and brawnier than anything that's been attempted on a console before. The multiplayer, which already shadowed the competition, has improved to the point of ridiculousness. The new features - Forge, Saved Films, Coop - are frighteningly addictive. And if you don't like any of that, you're always welcome to edit it until you do.

100
1UP
It's hard to imagine a feature of this game that someone won't love... Sure, no one aspect of the game is life-changing on its own, but perhaps the package as a whole is. After all, Halo 3 has enough content to keep you stuck to your controller for weeks, if not months or even years.

100
VideoGamer
Halo 3 transcends video games. It is a global entertainment experience. Just as "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" and "Spiderman 3" brought to a close two of the most lucrative and epic film trilogies of all time, Halo 3 brings to a close perhaps the most complete, engaging and downright fun video game trilogy of all time. There is absolutely no way any Halo fan will be disappointed by this game.

100
GameTap
It's well-tested, well-honed, and polished--all qualities you'd expect from Bungie, but the developer's talented and hard-working team shouldn't be taken for granted. Halo 3 may look OK and play similarly, but it will stand in the top echelon of Xbox 360 games for years.

100
G4 TV
The maps are all well-designed, the equipment adds strategic elements to matches, and the creative powers granted to players are unrivaled, at least for a console game. Add to the recipe that unmistakable Bungie polish, and you have a Multiplayer experience that will be enjoyed for thousands of gamers for years to come.

100
Gaming Age
It's a fight worth finishing so if you haven't already, get out there and do just that.


100
AceGamez
My mind is blown. Every level brings new and different scenery...and the scale of it makes "Halo 2" look both limited and amateur by comparison. I'm not exaggerating when I say that Halo 3 takes on "Half-Life 2" and wipes the floor with it.

100
Edge Magazine
In substance it’s nothing new, merely a magnificent, beautiful monster of an FPS sequel. In concept and execution, though, Halo 3 is the future. [Nov 2007, p.80]


100
Gamestyle
Halo 3 isn't perfect, but it's so close it's unnerving. There's very little to fault with this game, and the flaws that are there are almost completely overshadowed by the overall quality and incredible amount of content and features.

100
ZTGameDomain
What it does do is take a great game with superb gameplay and improve upon it in every way imaginable. You will also not find a more complete package for your money this year.


100
Thunderbolt
Halo 3 may not be as innovative as its predecessors or have the best graphics on the Xbox 360, but it’s an outstanding game and a fitting end to what’s been a fantastic trilogy.

100
Official Xbox Magazine
This 10 is based on the fact that Bungie has successfully raied the level of what to expect in future shooters and how much stuff you can cram into one game with a high level of polish and expertise--and not as an afterthought or as padding. [Nov 2007, p.50]

100
The Onion (A.V. Club)
Still, judging a game like Halo 3 on the single-player campaign is like taking a movie to task for its opening credits. Halo 3's multiplayer is its reason for existence.

100
Hardcore Gamer Magazine
Halo 3 is the combination of a thoroughly decent singleplayer campaign, a great multiplayer component, and absolutely incredible enhancements to each. [Nov 2007, p.52]

100
GameShark
This is truly the perfect way for Bungie to close out the trilogy. With its fun, if a bit short single player story, four-player online cooperative support, tight multiplayer gameplay and unmatched customization options, Halo 3 lives up to the unprecedented hype.

100
GotNext
Playing around with all this just might make you realize that while the individual components of Halo 3 aren't all top class, the sheer number of them offers more game hours of solid enjoyment than nearly anything else on the market, for any console.

Said Sado's have there own show on espn and also sky sports - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AU46npOcgs

The engine is a matter of opinion and mine is that what it does blows the likes of Gears of War out of the water. That game is basically an on rails cut scene. Halo 3s engine is still producing new things people haven't seen before 2 years after it was released.

Forge mode is more then a level Editor im not even going to go there. Edge Magazine Called Halo 3 a platform onto its own a few months back when CliffyB made the same statement about Gears 2 and got laughed at .

Its one thing to say its not to your Taste but to dismiss its accomplishments on such basis is like turning air into ass juice.

edit im addressing everyone not just retrogamer on the ass Juice thing.

ASS JUICE !!!!

thebman

Halo 3 online is a lot of fun, it would be lying to say otherwise. There are a lot of things that happen in Halo that could only happen in Halo because of the particular way that world works.

Shields, duel yielding, grenades, oddly high jumps and falling long distances without getting hurt and lots of medals with vehicles that don't feel like they were thrown in for effect all come together to make it a unique online experience where people want to get double and triple kills or skyjack a banshee or whatever. There are lots of things like this combine with good levels for this attributes that make it a great online experience.

The single player is average or a little above average. I do not like the story. I prefer Half Life and would still rank Team Fortress 2 as a more fun multiplayer game.

Halo lacks things but it has a lot going for its multiplayer that can't be found elsewhere. One of the biggest things going for it is simply the number of people online at once and the number of other people you probably know that play it so you can actually talk about it with other people or go around to someones house and have a game. Not many games you can do that with TBH. It is especially fun with two people on one console if you win a game with other poor team mates that don't pull their weight.

One thing that did always annoy me is that there is fook all team work in the team games except by clans so it ends up that if you come up against a clan your screwed and if not then you can sometimes counteract poor team mates which gives you that sense of achievement (before you realise it was just a game of Halo).

0ubliette

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You mean the same storyline as space invaders with added delusions of pretention. Halo 1 it was decent. After that it was a total mess.

A game engine that runs at near SD resolutions and doesn't look all that impressive in all honesty.
.

Yep, certainly doesnt look any good, at all.

And all those books and graphic novels written about the Halo story/universe are all obviously just **** that i dreamt of and the story is in fact just 'aliens are attacking you must kill them for no reason' a la space invaders.

thebman

On the graphics argument, it has always been my opinion that Halo looked great in SD as the graphics are all suited to lower resolutions because they are quite simple looking textures. Most things are metal and quite large in the world so it makes little sense to up the resolution to show higher levels of detail that just aren't there.

I would prefer if it had better graphics but it doesn't. I don't really believe it hurts the gameplay at all though.

Tallon

Halo LAN Parties FTW!

alastair_doom

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8-Halo-3

^sums up the negative opinoins quite nicely.

Personally i love the game purely for the 2 player co-op story mode. 1 player does feel like a chore.

thebman

One thing that I'm not sure has been sad so far is it is more accessible than a lot of others games.

Anyone can play it and it is relatively cheap to get a console and game going so people are more inclined to give it a go after seeing the marketing.

Retr0gamer

0ubliette wrote: »

Yep, certainly doesnt look any good, at all.

[Troll]N64 textures[/quote]

I've seem much better looking games this generation.

0ubliette wrote:

And all those books and graphic novels written about the Halo story/universe are all obviously just **** that i dreamt of and the story is in fact just 'aliens are attacking you must kill them for no reason' a la space invaders.

Yes they are ****. It's b-movie rubbish that doesn't do itself any favours by being badly written and taking itself far too seriously. Saying that I did think Halo 1 had a nice simple storyline but it tried to vanish up it's own arse in Halo2 and ever since it's been laughable.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Story wise is was a complete mess? Using your logic pretty much every game has a crappy story. Half-life 2 aliens invade earth, a single hero rises up against the aliens. Havent heard that a million times before. Resident evil series, big evil corpation uses general public as a test bed. Again that has been done a hundred times in cheesy sci-fi films. COD1+2+3, generic ww2 battles played over and over again. I could go on but I wont. Coming from somebody who has a name like retrogamer you should know that the majority of older games have terrible rehashed storyline.

My main problem is that Halo is a generic save the world story line that's been done to death yet it thinks it's something really clever, near artisitic and doesn't let up with delusions of pretentiousness. It's no Silent Hill 2 or Shadow of the Colossus thats for sure but it seems to think it's right up there.

Half-life 2 may be about aliens coming to earth but it's done in a very clever way that allows it uses very original settings for it's games. We haven't seen a setting for a gmae like Half-life 1 and 2 but we have seen super marine saving generic sci-fi universe countless times.

Resident Evils storyline is utter tripe but what saves it is that it knows it's tripe. It's B-movie nonsense but it's also a loving celebration of B-movie nonsense with a touch of gory anime thrown in.

Call of Duty isn't about the story, it's about the spectacle.

I cold also take a swipe at Gears of Wars attempts at some maturity in Gears of War 2 but i have to say it was a resounding success and delivered on of the most surprisingly emotional scenes from any videogame.

The thing is these games know what they are and don't try to be something they aren't and fail miserably at it.

LIGHTNING wrote:

(PS that wasnt a personal dig at yourself, I love older games and I have a pretty impressive old console collection)

Don't worry, none of it's taken personally, I'm here to discuss. Excpet about the pro gamers, I just don't get that

Contrary to popular belief I don't hate Halo, well maybe Halo 2 because it was an awful single player experience. Halo 1 was a great game. Halo 3 was a return to form but far from the perfect 10/10 game that some people will have you believe.

thebman

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Half-life 2 may be about aliens coming to earth but it's done in a very clever way that allows it uses very original settings for it's games. We haven't seen a setting for a gmae like Half-life 1 and 2 but we have seen super marine saving generic sci-fi universe countless times.

Resident Evils storyline is utter tripe but what saves it is that it knows it's tripe. It's B-movie nonsense but it's also a loving celebration of B-movie nonsense with a touch of gory anime thrown in.

Agree with all the above.

Call of Duty isn't about the story, it's about the spectacle.

I cold also take a swipe at Gears of Wars attempts at some maturity in Gears of War 2 but i have to say it was a resounding success and delivered on of the most surprisingly emotional scenes from any videogame.

Disagree here. I think Halo is really just about the online. They have a story but they know it doesn't matter really they do. Just look at the story in Halo 3 and the detail spent on the faces of the human characters. Its very, this isn't where our focus is and the online is the exact opposite. They knew the success of the game is its online and despite everyone going on about how great Xbox Live is online, what most people really mean is Halo as a lot of other games online is just as good on PS3 and usually surpassed if the game comes out on Pc.

Contrary to popular belief I don't hate Halo, well maybe Halo 2 because it was an awful single player experience. Halo 1 was a great game. Halo 3 was a return to form but far from the perfect 10/10 game that some people will have you believe.

I didn't like any of the Halo's story lines TBH. It is all generic and Starship troopers did a much better job. :P

My personal gripe is in the ZP review. The Flood shouldn't be there, it is completely out of place with the rest of the game IMO. The Driving sections are appalling too. The AI can't drive or shoot and it was clearly designed to be a co-op experience but it is the story, it should be able to be played alone as I don't want to play it with other people, I want to enjoy the story on my own as if I were reading a book. Its trying to make up for how boring it is IMO by letting you look for skulls with your friends.

wandatowell

Never like the Halo games at all, feels quite childish to play

silvine

Um Halo is not - and never was - about a great story. And graphically it's been surpassed too.

It's about a fun, accessible and varied multiplayer.

As for it being childish well you can level that criticism at a lot of computer games e.g. Gears of War II has macho marines running around with no helmets telling each other how hard they are.

Kiith

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Pure bull, the halo series has an truly excellent background story with rich characters. The games themselves have excellent graphics, amazing soundtracks, simple yet enjoyable gameplay, brilliant multiplayer options and the backing of the console manufacturer.

The master chief (not to mention the rests of the spartan 2 and 3`s) are up their with the all time great video game characters (not my words but gamespy`s but I agree with them).

Hmm, while i agree with some of what you say, i'd have to say you (and gamespy) are so wrong here. There's no way master chief is one of the all time great characters in gaming. He's a pretty generic 'save the world' supersoldier. Now i really enjoyed halo 3, and i didn't even play multiplayer. But i could easily name a load of characters who are way more believable, realistic, etc... then the chief. I will give bungie some extra credits for making a brilliant soundtrack. Halo 1 and 3 had great music.

Otacon

LIGHTNING wrote: »

You really need the books to get all the the info in regard to the entire spartan project. It really helps and it shows just how much they had to sacrifice. The books also show the human side to each of the spartan soldiers.With any luck maybe in the future we will see more halo games where you play some of the other spartan soldiers and it will expand the story a little more.

How do the books and the Halo universe in general have anything to do with how the Halo games portray Master Chief? Fair enough, they expand on the mythology of that universe, but that has nothing to do with the Halo games, and how Master Chief is depicted in them.

Personally, I enjoyed the Halo games, having completed all of them on Legendary, played some online matches etc. IMO they don't deserve the level of praise they got when they were released. All of them are solid 7/10 games, except 2 which is probably 6/10.

RAIN

When Mega Drive games came out most offered no backstory apart from the half a page in the instruction booklet and that was your backstory.Most people favorite game charecters came from back then. Same with Halo's novels there all part of the story.

Latest issue of Edge gives Halo 3 number 9 in the top 100 games ever.

Ico and Shadow the colossus arent even in the top 20.

see the full top ten below.

Ocarina of time is number -1st
super mario 64 -2nd
half life 2 -3rd
resi 4 -4th
zelda link to the past -5th
super mario world -6th
tetris -7th
supermario galaxy 8th
Halo 3 - 9th
Yoshis Island - 10th

Retr0gamer

RAIN wrote: »

When Mega Drive games came out most offered no backstory apart from the half a page in the instruction booklet and that was your backstory.Most people favorite game charecters came from back then. Same with Halo's novels there all part of the story.

Latest issue of Edge gives Halo 3 number 9 in the top 100 games ever.

Ico and Shadow the colossus arent even in the top 20.

see the full top ten below.

Ocarina of time is number -1st
super mario 64 -2nd
half life 2 -3rd
resi 4 -4th
zelda link to the past -5th
super mario world -6th
tetris -7th
supermario galaxy 8th
Halo 3 - 9th
Yoshis Island - 10th

So what. It's Edge's opinion who have stubbornly stood by their fanboyism of Halo. It's not the opinion of everyone. They are also the same publication that gave Gunstar Heroes 6/10 so they aren't infallible and it just goes to show that peoples opinions differ. Eurogamer gave Halo 3 10/10 but even when their top 100 of the year came out most of eurogamers own contributers and writers were pretty amazed that the game got 10/10 and said that it should have been marked lower.

RAIN

hey your preaching to the choir i know reviewers are mostly ful of crap,its also getting to the stage where the only way you can enjoy a game spoiler or opinion free is to avoid game journos completly. i only put the list there so people could see the company it was keeping in the top ten.

Edge also gave fallout 3 7/10 but they seem to only give high scores to games that bring gaming forward,i agree with them on Halo 3 i think its pushed things forward and as a series it always has.

on another point, Forge is alot more then level editor that lets you change gun position and weapon types. there are template levels that let you build huge levels out of supplied building blocks,there has been full mario cart tracks replicated,pac man levels made,pong, you can create your own game types ,you can create your own physiques for the game the amout of players involved the amo limits,the vehicles involved,the amount of shields attached too both and it can all be done in co op or you can just play the level editor live with up to 30 people either creating machima,new maps,building a giant robot,or just running around killing each other. just look at you tube for what forge is capable of,and for anyone who isent impressed by the games engine you should take a minute to look at the halo mythbuster series to see what its capable of.

Shiminay

But Forge is not new. There have been better game/level mod tools available for years to those of us who play PC games. I was making Quake Levels 12 years ago.

They just happened to put it onto a console, so it's new to that format. However, to say that it's moving things forward is a bit of an over-statement. It's merely brought the console FPS genre within spitting distance of it's PC counter-part and it will never be a better platform for FPS games, just a more popular one.

I'm not trying to get into a Console vs PC argument, I'm simply stating facts. I play a lot of FPS' now on my 360 (Halo 3 included) mostly cause I don't have the financial clout to keep my PC "bleeding edge" to play these sorts of games as the developers intended

RAIN

but its no just the level editor tool that im spouting on about its the co op and comunity enviorment that the game puts you in to use these tools. Im aware pc has had these tools for years but its the implementation that counts,halo 3 did it with full support on xbox live as well as bungie.net and pushed the content in game and out. makes it available to play ingame an out , you can download content directly to your xbox via bungie.net. and its console based so the masses who dont have the pc gamer clout that others have had for years,it hands it to you on yummy plate smothered in that ice cream with the bits of iceburger mashed into it.

I feel im wasting my time trying to push my views on the game down people knecks,in alot of ways im like the pope except instead of condoms to a people riddled with aids its spartan lazers and halo montages.

smooch71

RAIN wrote: »

I feel im wasting my time trying to push my views on the game down people knecks,in alot of ways im like the pope except instead of condoms to a people riddled with aids its spartan lazers and halo montages.

You're not wasting your time, it's your opinion and you're entilted to it. As are those who think Halo is overrated and shallow. I happen to be one of them and nothing you say is going to change my view. But if you love it then great!

Retr0gamer

Farcry Instincts had a better level editor, and that was on Xbox.

Kiith

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Farcry Instincts had a better level editor, and that was on Xbox.

True, but lets never mention it again.

declanx

With 3 years between Halo 2 and 3 people expected more. Liked all 3 games, but the story line mumbled away in Halo 3 like a ZanuFF election promise. Online drives me nuts with all the jumping.

neilk32

There is a lot of great things about halo 3 that makes it a great game. Its not the fact that there is a level editor its the way it was implemented for example a player makes a map uploads it onto there fileshare recommends it to all there friends they then download a simple 50kb file and voila they can play there friends map.

But wait theres more we also have a theater which we can view our games and make film clips and put them on our fileshare and reccommend to friends. Also with our screen shots we can now post our maps we have made on a website with a link to our fileshare on bungie.net which can then be downloaded onto our xbox.

Halo has always been about going clutch and the feeling of destroying your opponents and after doing this we can then watch it in the theater over and over and relive this clutch moment.

Don't get me wrong halo 3 is far from perfect and i enjoyed halo 2 multiplayer more and still do but the fact is nobody plays it. They ruined the br in halo 3 and put in a ridiculous starting weapon with the assault rifle which just turns everyone in melee monsters and then we have the ridiculous melee system which allows 2 people to simultaneously beat each other down and the assualt rifle basically encourages this. Also the map designs are terrible compared to its predecessors which don't encourage competetive gameplay at all but luckily thanks to forge our good friends at mlg can make them pretty competitive basically i can't stand any other playlist apart from mlg and the odd bit of team snipers.

A-Trak

Halo 3 is one of my most regulary played games on my xbox.

Couldn't care a jot for forge, and have never used it.
SP whilst having some great setpieces was in the end dissapointing and didn't bookend the series.

What really sets it apart is the multiplayer. I've yet to see as polished a piece of work (on a console.) Great playlists that are constantly updated. Probably best ranking and skill system on any game I've seen, which rewards skill as well as experiece, so you simply can't gring out ranks (Hello COD4.)
Accessable to newbies as well as having a depth of play that grows. Saved replays/movies and screenshots.

But what sets it apart from of the majority of other online shooters is that its still fun!

Shiminay

A-Trak wrote: »

But what sets it apart from of the majority of other online shooters is that its still fun!

^^^ THIS!

That's the be-all and end-all of the arguement tbh. A game that's that old and still being played by so many has to be doing something right. It's why people were playing QuakeWorld (and still do) for years, why they played Counter-Strike (and also still do).

ClayDavis

"I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything."

Says it all really.

kaimera

But what sets it apart from of the majority of other online shooters is that its still fun!

is it tho? I played online MP a handful of times and didn't take to it at all. Prolly cos I sucked! I tend to not play fps mp on the 360 generally tho.

4p LAN/splitscreen is awesome tho.

I halo

neilk32

kaimera wrote: »

is it tho? I played online MP a handful of times and didn't take to it at all. Prolly cos I sucked! I tend to not play fps mp on the 360 generally tho.

4p LAN/splitscreen is awesome tho.

I halo

i would hope my 8000 games havent been wasted on a not so fun game :P

thebman

kaimera wrote: »

is it tho? I played online MP a handful of times and didn't take to it at all. Prolly cos I sucked! I tend to not play fps mp on the 360 generally tho.

4p LAN/splitscreen is awesome tho.

I halo

I imagine that is why you didn't enjoy it. Most people enjoy it if they can do reasonably well.

I'm usually one of the best on my team but sometimes not. It is really frustrating when it doesn't go your way. Then it becomes one more game until I get a good result and then I can stop playing and go to bed.