Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Cordoba round1 to round 12

polishpaddy

I'd very much like to get your views on how this will pan out.
Here's my take on how the fight wil go.
Dunne will start off slow(cautious).But he will quickly dominate cordoba with his quicker jab and footwork.Cordoba will try impose himself on dunne in the later rounds. Dunne will get stunned once or twice with a few good body shots.If dunne can stay away and keep his cool and he will win this fight.


It's not often you see anyone actually discussing how a fight goes in this forum.
Whats your take on it will all go.

walshb

Very difficult to call this as I haven't seen enough from Cordoba.
He looks patient and precise and methodical; he isn't terribly
aggressive and doesn't possess dynamite power. He's smooth
and polished and crafty. He's a dream opponent for Dunne.

However, if he decides to seek and destroy, then we will know
what he really has.

I cannot see Dunne winning by KO. For Dunne to win, he must
remain so focused and his defense needs to be spot on.

Stamina, power, chin and defense will all be very
suspect with Dunne. If I were Dunne, I would go hell for leather
to try and take the guy out. This is Bernard's best
ever chance. He must take it and take the fight
to Cordoba whilst being ultra focused

ah,sure

I'm off to see Cordoba work out in the Stadium at 12

See what the crack with him is

walshb

ah,sure wrote: »

I'm off to see Cordoba work out in the Stadium at 12

See what the crack with him is

Well for some; are you spying on him?:)

Well, let us know what you make of him

mark renton

Round 1.
Cautious start by both boxers trying to get a feel for each others power, Dunne looks slightly quicker and remembers to keep his guard up.
First round to Cordoba (as with most of this fight Bernard will have to clearly win rounds to be given the round)

Round 2.
Dunne with the quicker movement gets in 2 good shots to the body, Cabrero takes them well but realises Dunne is quicker than he expected. Bernard picks off a good shot the head at the end of the round and there is no doubt he wins that round

Round 3.
Cordoba starts stronger this round and changes tactics slightly, coming forward more often. 2.14 into the round Bernard catches Cordoba flush on the chin, his knees buckle and he takes the 8 count. Ref has a good look and lets him contine but doesnt move far because he knows he will have to step in again. Bernard goes after him again and the ref stops the fight.

Its an amazing win for Dunne. Where has the power come from???

Caballero sitting in a penthouse suite in New York turns to his manager and says "I dont wanna fight him"

walshb posts on boards "Now he's in the top ten"

walshb

Hey John, that would make a great Carlsberg ad!:D

Mr. Incognito

Round 1.

Cordoba comes out like a bat out of Hell raining body blows and combinations. Dunne goes down. He stays there.

murpheile

Think I might put a few quid on the draw at 33/1, don't know to listen to my heart or my head for the betting so might meet half way:D
Being honest about it I see it being very cagey, lasting the distance, with the rounds being close enough to not know which way a lot will go, so it's worth a few quid.

mark renton

Go with your heart dude, your head will thank you for it!!

3/1 the Dunne..................... Send it home Bernard!!!

mark renton

walshb wrote: »

Hey John, that would make a great Carlsberg ad!:D

Agreed... I was going to go through the twelve but I've a low attention span so decided to finish it early, hope Bernard does the same

If Dunne cant do it then it cant be Done!!

Johnduddy

I was certain Dunne didnt have chance after reading this Im a lot more hopeful...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing-strength-from-sweet-science-1673469.html

walshb

Was I watching a different fight to this fella?

"What was it his trainer Harry Hawkins had said to him repeatedly before the fight? "He's dangerous for three rounds," he'd said. "After that you'll punch holes in him." But then Dunne took a slap and like a wounded, unthinking animal he charged forward looking for revenge and exposed himself to the blood-thirsty Spaniard. His words are wistful now rather than aching: "Harry had told me early on in that fight, box, box, box. It was all I needed to do."

I never saw this charge forward from Dunne. I saw him on the back foot
and trying desperately to survive.

This guy would want to watch the fight before reporting such inaccuracies.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone verify?

No need to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKAMDcMYhvw

Charge forward my arse!

polishpaddy

There goes my thread....
:rolleyes:

walshb

Paddy, chill. It's still here and still discussing the main man, Dunne.
Threads deviate from time to time; it can make for some good
debate.

ah,sure

walshb wrote: »

Paddy, chill. It's still here and still discussing the main man, Dunne.
Threads deviate from time to time; it can make for some good
debate.

Don't worry about it Walsh. He pm'd me after my first post telling me to stop ruining his thread as he felt I had somehow deviated.

Saw Cordoba in the flesh today. Moylette wasn't impressed with his pad work. He looked so slender, too, his bantam sparring partner looked genuinely bigger.

I know superbantams ain't the biggest but he's no Kiko. I see a real tactical fight and I hope Dunne's chin will take some of the shots that will come.

I've heard people close to his camp say they hope he doesn't cut up, once he doesn't, he stands a chance. I'm seeing a split decision here and a hometown decision.

Sugerraysarah

bernard dunne to win on points

close 12 round decision you heard it here first !!!:o

sarah

alanceltic

Ah Cmon surely u got more gossip and info on Cordoba, was he sparring down at the stadium????

Nice article in the indo, walshb you are reading too much into it, the basic jist is that dunne tried to slugg it out instead of spoiling to the bell....

Sometimes you have to take a step backwards before you can take 2 steps forward and Dunne has taken his step backwards now its time to deliver,,,, cmon the paddies it will be very interesting to see how much dunnes training regime will translate on the night into power & stamina

walshb

alanceltic wrote: »

Ah Cmon surely u got more gossip and info on Cordoba, was he sparring down at the stadium????

Nice article in the indo, walshb you are reading too much into it, the basic jist is that dunne tried to slugg it out instead of spoiling to the bell....

Sometimes you have to take a step backwards before you can take 2 steps forward and Dunne has taken his step backwards now its time to deliver,,,, cmon the paddies it will be very interesting to see how much dunnes training regime will translate on the night into power & stamina

alan, I am merely defending Dunne, that muppet was making out Dunne was pretty stupid and careless. Dunne didn't go charging forward like a wounded animal. He did the complete opposite and tried to save himself, albeit not very good.

walshb

ah,sure wrote: »

Don't worry about it Walsh. He pm'd me after my first post telling me to stop ruining his thread as he felt I had somehow deviated.

Saw Cordoba in the flesh today. Moylette wasn't impressed with his pad work. He looked so slender, too, his bantam sparring partner looked genuinely bigger.

I know superbantams ain't the biggest but he's no Kiko. I see a real tactical fight and I hope Dunne's chin will take some of the shots that will come.

I've heard people close to his camp say they hope he doesn't cut up, once he doesn't, he stands a chance. I'm seeing a split decision here and a hometown decision.

That's good news then. Like I said, this guy is Dunne's only real hope to win a title. He's world rated 9 by the IBRO, so Dunne should really really go for it
and try and claim the belt. Does he look as big as Bernard?

ah,sure

I don't think so but I'd really need to see them together. He just skipped in front of us and worked the bag. I say sparring partner, his name is Anselo Moreno, the WBA bantam champion. To be honest he was going at it harder than Cordoba as I believe he is fighting soon in Germany.

Cordoba's promoters were saying he's never been in as good nick (haven't heard that one before) and I tried to find out about the interim/super champ muddle but needless to say that remains convuloted.

I hear the show is nearly a sell-out with around 300 tickets to go. They should move this week. Cordoba looks cool as ****, just a real air of nonchalance about him.

Running Bing

ah,sure wrote: »

I don't think so but I'd really need to see them together. He just skipped in front of us and worked the bag. I say sparring partner, his name is Anselo Moreno, the WBA bantam champion. To be honest he was going at it harder than Cordoba as I believe he is fighting soon in Germany.

Cordoba's promoters were saying he's never been in as good nick (haven't heard that one before) and I tried to find out about the interim/super champ muddle but needless to say that remains convuloted.

I hear the show is nearly a sell-out with around 300 tickets to go. They should move this week. Cordoba looks cool as ****, just a real air of nonchalance about him.

Are there any more public training sessions before the fight?

ah,sure

I don't think so.

Pics: http://www.sportsfile.com/latest-images/

Hangballlouie

After seening both of these guys doing their warm-ups (Bernard twice), it has further cemented in my mind that Bernard will lose.
Don't get me wrong, he is looking and sounding fantastic but this guy Cordoba, it seems like nothing phases him. Very cool demeanor.

I really hope I am wrong, but he also looks the bigger guy in my opinion.

If you watched Tubridy with Dunne on it, they showed a photo of Cordoba but he looks so much bigger in the flesh. They were laughing a bit at the size of him, but come fight night, Bernard will be smaller.

Big Ears

ah,sure wrote: »

I tried to find out about the interim/super champ muddle but needless to say that remains convuloted.

Cordoba was interim champion, Caballero was regular champion. Caballero become Super Champion, now Cordoba's regular champion..........easy really(as stupid as it is).

walshb

Big Ears wrote: »

Cordoba was interim champion, Caballero was regular champion. Caballero become Super Champion, now Cordoba's regular champion..........easy really(as stupid as it is).

Definitely stupid!

3greenrizla's

I have some doubts if Dunne (and his chin) will avoid getting caught, but if he can I think a home win on points.

does anyone know where I can bet on the Undercard online?

mark renton

3greenrizla's wrote: »

I have some doubts if Dunne (and his chin) will avoid getting caught, but if he can I think a home win on points.

does anyone know where I can bet on the Undercard online?

Dont worry about the chin, the chin is fine, the chin will always be fine

patmac

Following on from this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055272860&highlight=Bernard+Dunne&page=3
I know he’s Irish and fighting for a world title but there is a part of me that would like to see the overhyped little bollix mullered on Saturday night. Him and Peters are the epitome of rip off Ireland and looking beyond the hype and the fact he has beaten absolutely no-one of any substance I shall be lumping on Cordoba to knock him out and win in either round 1 or 5. I know it’s unpatriotic and if he proves me wrong then I will be delighted for him (maybe).

mark renton

patmac wrote: »

Following on from this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055272860&highlight=Bernard+Dunne&page=3
I know he’s Irish and fighting for a world title but there is a part of me that would like to see the overhyped little bollix mullered on Saturday night. Him and Peters are the epitome of rip off Ireland and looking beyond the hype and the fact he has beaten absolutely no-one of any substance I shall be lumping on Cordoba to knock him out and win in either round 1 or 5. I know it’s unpatriotic and if he proves me wrong then I will be delighted for him (maybe).

Wow - you have real issues dude.... that thread died over a year ago :eek: Let it go

Brian Peters puts a price on a fight ticket - you dont want to pay it, then dont. Watch it on TV for free

Overhype is a part of boxing as much as gloves and gumshields are, get used to it.

Draupnir

patmac wrote: »

Following on from this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055272860&highlight=Bernard+Dunne&page=3
I know he’s Irish and fighting for a world title but there is a part of me that would like to see the overhyped little bollix mullered on Saturday night. Him and Peters are the epitome of rip off Ireland and looking beyond the hype and the fact he has beaten absolutely no-one of any substance I shall be lumping on Cordoba to knock him out and win in either round 1 or 5. I know it’s unpatriotic and if he proves me wrong then I will be delighted for him (maybe).

I don't understand where you are coming from with the rip off comments, are tickets cheaper for World Title fights elsewhere in the world? I am very happy with the ticket I bought for 60 Euro, which should give me a very good view of the ring in a very high quality venue.

patmac

john47832 wrote: »

Wow - you have real issues dude.... that thread died over a year ago :eek: Let it go

Brian Peters puts a price on a fight ticket - you dont want to pay it, then dont. Watch it on TV for free

Overhype is a part of boxing as much as gloves and gumshields are, get used to it.

When you are ripped off it's hard to forget, it was my 1st experience of live boxing and it wasn't good. Once bitten, twice shy and all that and just because it was over a year ago doesn't make it right.

Draupnir wrote: »

I don't understand where you are coming from with the rip off comments, are tickets cheaper for World Title fights elsewhere in the world? I am very happy with the ticket I bought for 60 Euro, which should give me a very good view of the ring in a very high quality venue.

I was talking about €100 for a non title fight. It's good to see his prices have come down the recession has it's plus side.

walshb

patmac wrote: »

When you are ripped off it's hard to forget, it was my 1st experience of live boxing and it wasn't good. Once bitten, twice shy and all that and just because it was over a year ago doesn't make it right.


I was talking about €100 for a non title fight. It's good to see his prices have come down the recession has it's plus side.

patmac, had you seen any of the other previous Dunne-Peter's shows?

If not, then I would give you a pass, but if you did see them and then
go and expect quality, then it's your fault.

mark renton

I was there for the machado fight, IMO the seating wasnt great, I was at the back and there was a pathway right in front which everyone coming in and out was using... we got up and asked the security not to let people walk by when the rounds were on but they didnt seem to understand why... I see where your coming from, but any fight I've been to at the stadium had excellent viewing (once you keep away from the ringside angle seats), and I learnt that it was probably best to get balcony seats if possible at the former point. Now, listening to those who attended the MMA they reckon there is not a bad seat in the house, though I still did ensure I didnt get angle seats. Dont let the first one put you off, this will be a fantastic atmosphere and with a little rub of the green we will see the win.

Send it home Bernard!!

patmac

walshb wrote: »

patmac, had you seen any of the other previous Dunne-Peter's shows?

1st and last. Anyway good luck to him, he will need it.

walshb

I know it's unlikely, but are Paddy Power takin' a wee risk by giving odds of 100/1
on a Dunne TKO/KO in any rd. Shows you how they rate Dunne. They can't know all that much about Cordoba that we don't know!

I think it's worth a bet.

Dunne in Rd 5:)

50 Euro at 100/1!

mark renton

14/1 for knockout in any round

I reckon hes about due to catch someone flush on the chin, I cant remember in the last 3 fights where he landed a really good shot and said his opponent should have dropped...

ShaunD

walshb wrote: »

I know it's unlikely, but are Paddy Power takin' a wee risk by giving odds of 100/1
on a Dunne TKO/KO in any rd. Shows you how they rate Dunne. They can't know all that much about Cordoba that we don't know!

I think it's worth a bet.

Dunne in Rd 5:)

50 Euro at 100/1!

A friend of mine from College just put 60 euro on Dunne to win by TKO in round 7!
I guess it is worth putting a tenner on just for the sake of it with 100/1 odds, as they say, stranger things have happened.

alanceltic

patmac wrote: »

Following on from this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055272860&highlight=Bernard+Dunne&page=3
I know he’s Irish and fighting for a world title but there is a part of me that would like to see the overhyped little bollix mullered on Saturday night. Him and Peters are the epitome of rip off Ireland and looking beyond the hype and the fact he has beaten absolutely no-one of any substance I shall be lumping on Cordoba to knock him out and win in either round 1 or 5. I know it’s unpatriotic and if he proves me wrong then I will be delighted for him (maybe).

Build a bridge and get over it!!!!!!!! its been covered already on here that Dunne is doing this for the Dubs :D

3greenrizla's

ShaunD wrote: »

A friend of mine from College just put 60 euro on Dunne to win by TKO in round 7!
I guess it is worth putting a tenner on just for the sake of it with 100/1 odds, as they say, stranger things have happened.

Round 7 served me well in dunnes last fight, I'll give it a go again (probably a tenner) and probably a tenner on a points win & a few pound on a cordoba knocking dunne out to cover my 20 quid........ i am such a big gambler me, still anyone know where I can get odds on the undercard.

and as for the above comments about Dunne/Peters being rip-off, I was at Dunnes last fight and had a great night, yes the tickets were overpriced*, but so is everything else in Ireland - that is the problem (but a discussion for another section of boards)

*I actually got a free €100 ticket, but intended to go anyway, when I was there i thought the cheap tickets had a better view and better craic.

murpheile

It's sold out now anyway. Hopefully it's a good atmosphere.

http://www.fightnews.com/?p=6832

Big Ears

1st round, both fighters start off cautiously.......there's a headclash and Dunne's cut from the Faccio fight re opens. Fight is stopped in the first as a no contest as a result of the cut.

mark renton

Whats the rules on stoppage due to accident for this one?? Same as Faccio fight?

ShaunD

john47832 wrote: »

Whats the rules on stoppage due to accident for this one?? Same as Faccio fight?

No contest before round 4 and then goes to scorecards after that, IF they cut is accidental, if it is caused by a punch, the guy who is cut loses.
I think I am right on this, different orgainizations have different rules.
If the same thing that happened in the Faccio fight had happened in Britain, for example, and Dunne was forced to quit because of an accidental head clash, Faccio would have won!

Big Ears

ShaunD wrote: »

No contest before round 4 and then goes to scorecards after that, IF they cut is accidental, if it is caused by a punch, the guy who is cut loses.
I think I am right on this, different orgainizations have different rules.
If the same thing that happened in the Faccio fight had happened in Britain, for example, and Dunne was forced to quit because of an accidental head clash, Faccio would have won!

You're correct on everything you've said there, only the WBA,WBC,WBO and IBF all have the same rules on cuts now.
The WBC used have a rule saying that if there's a headclash and one fighter is cut, the other fighter is deducted a point. This rule actually cost Michael Brodie a World title(WBC v Injin Chi).

The British rule is ridiculous, Wayne Elcock recently defended his(now lost) British Middleweight title on an accidental cut injury against Darren McDermott.

walshb

Big Ears wrote: »

The WBC used have a rule saying that if there's a headclash and one fighter is cut, the other fighter is deducted a point. This rule actually cost Michael Brodie a World title(WBC v Injin Chi).

I assume you mean a deliberate head clash on the part of one man.
How can they deduct a point if it's deemed accidental? That seems unfair.
So, Khan would have lost a point the other night had it been a WBC bout?

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

I assume you mean a deliberate head clash on the part of one man.
How can they deduct a point if it's deemed accidental? That seems unfair.
So, Khan would have lost a point the other night had it been a WBC bout?

No I don't..........I mean accidental. Obviously a deliberate headclash would be punished as such. It was such a stupid rule, which is thankfully now gone so no Khan wouldn't have lost a point under current rules but several years ago yes he would.

patmac

3greenrizla's wrote: »

and as for the above comments about Dunne/Peters being rip-off, I was at Dunnes last fight and had a great night,
*I actually got a free €100 ticket.

LOL you win.

€3 @ 100/1 round 7 that will cover the 3 tickets I paid.
C'mon Bernard, up the Dubs etc.

walshb

It's been seven hrs at least since Dunne weighed in and I don't believe anyone has posted the details?

ah,sure

Just home.

Dunne just 2 ounces lighter than 122lb, Cordoba 12 ounces lighter than limit.

Our boy: 8st 11lbs 14oz

The Enemy: 8st 11lbs 4oz

walshb

ah,sure wrote: »

Just home.

Dunne just 2 ounces lighter than 122lb, Cordoba 12 ounces lighter than limit.

Our boy: 8st 11lbs 14oz

The Enemy: 8st 11lbs 4oz

Jeez, about time. I was expecting that post at 14:01:D

Just checked Peter's site and nothing on it. That's not good is it!

3greenrizla's

rte had it up @ 6.....
http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2009/0320/dunneb.html


I'm starting to think Dunne might do it now, I cant wait.