Holes in your plan

Milky Moo

I was just thinking if it would be a good idea to post what you think your survival plan is and then if others saw a glaring hole in it they could point it out or give advice.
Mine is to get to the nearest bank or barracks obviously but it would be more likely i will end up in my attic(not before i destroy the stairs!)only problem is once i was up there i would have no visual contact with the outside surroundings!

Undead

Get to Gormanston Camp.

Milky Moo

Thats way too far away!

SmileyPaul

Milky Moo wrote: »

I was just thinking if it would be a good idea to post what you think your survival plan is and then if others saw a glaring hole in it they could point it out or give advice.
Mine is to get to the nearest bank or barracks obviously but it would be more likely i will end up in my attic(not before i destroy the stairs!)only problem is once i was up there i would have no visual contact with the outside surroundings!

smash a hole in your roof.... z's cant climb onto roofs.... less there was some weird.... roof.... balcony.... shut up! anyways, thats my exit from my attic sorted if they get up some how, mill it out my window onto the neighbouring roofs with a machete and hope my balance is better than theirs XD

Caliden

Surely when there is a horde of zombies they will start climbing over each other to get at you or even climb over their fallen comrades

Milky Moo

There would have to be a pretty large pile though!

CaoimH_in

ok, what are "the Rules" here, are we talking new age leg it after you zombie, or old school, slow and steady but a huge amount of them that close in around you?

Milky Moo

Old school slow and steady,I don't know something about the fast one makes me think its breaking the genre.

CaoimH_in

felt that too, but I always kinda wondered how they're got to be so many of them if they're so slow?

Milky Moo

Urban areas massive amounts of people in close proximity I am guessing,like if it was something like the population density of a city it would be easy to get caught out and cornered by one.
The initial confusion would lead people to stay with the infected,you know the usual stuff.

CaoimH_in

hmm, Milky..

right, heres the plan. One magic word. Tescos.
my house is located on a top of a hill, so, moving quickly and silently, volting over backwalls until I reach the bottom of the hill, at which point, observing activity from the final hedgerow. Seeing if there is any activity, being a zombie story, or zombie reality, its based on films, thus meaning, coast looks clear, and tesco, usually a large lit up building with glass walls, is dark, moving quickly, sneaking into tescos being sure to keep my head down and moving between cars, and always being extremely weary about zombies being underneath the cars, inside the cars, or hidden around the corners of cars. Moving to the presumably open doors of tesco (I mean.. When does it close?) moving quickly and directly to the back door, located at the end of the line of till's to your immdiate right as you pass through the main entrance, getting in there, moving to the store room. Presumably i'd have to face a zombie at this point, i.e one in the corridor or in the store room itself, depending on the situation, would sneak past him, or let him pass me (holding mouth against breathing etc) or simply return to "home improvements" isle, and getting a shovel, and return to the zombie and beheading him, seeing as zombies usually move in packs, being weary, and moving quickly but quietly, getting into the store room, and locking the doors by pushing crates layden with food infront of the door, using the wrapping of the food packaging, sticking the packaging and covering the windows, then, holding up there for 2 months, rationing my food, at which point, the zombies either would be all dead, or numbers seriously reduced, to which moving quickly getting out of tesco and inspecting the situation, if it has gotten better, contintue and look for help, worse, back to the store room.

If it got better, moving quickly, and quietly, move towards the Gardai barracks located in the centre of town (Nenagh), finding any available guns etc, trying phonelines, getting a car, learn to drive, then move towards Limerick, to which point seeing as it is a built up area, searching for a check point.

I have no life.

Milky Moo

see you were going alrite until u hit limerick haha..I am still weary of shopping centres as all bad zombie movies show us that's where poeple head and generally die there
I would try to get to the barracks even though it is just like 25mins away I doubt it would be a wise option thus i stay at home in my attic waiting,supplies would defo be a problem

CaoimH_in

hmm, see, with weariness, and alot of caution, you could get in... you could get into tesco.. as it is its own building.. and very open as in you could see most if not everything from the outside.. thus you could probably get in and safely get to the Store room. and with the shovel.. you are pretty safe.. hmm...

Kromdar

CaoimH_in wrote: »

hmm, Milky..

right, heres the plan. One magic word. Tescos.
my house is located on a top of a hill, so, moving quickly and silently, volting ... ...then move towards Limerick, to which point seeing as it is a built up area, searching for a check point.

I have no life.

you'll have no life if you follow that plan. :pac:

supermarkets are all well and good, but anything that draws a crowd is a bad idea. similarly, heading away from your house [on top of a hill, of all places - thats a good defense!] then entering a town, well, you're gonna be zombie dinner. for us unfortunates to be stuck in a big city, well, we'll probably have to do something like that. but you're pretty much in the countryside, or close enough to it. get out there, grab a tractor or a big jeep and chuck as much as you can steal from local hoses in there, grab a pitchfork or farmer's shotgun and head to a nice big barn or something, and wait it out there. a big painted 'SOS' on the roof wouldn't go amiss. and you can always a-team up the tractor to include some metal plates, blades on the wheels, etc.

also, the zombies could take longer than 2 months to die, so, uou may need to raid that tescos every now and again. but don't hold up there.

Milky Moo

Question:would a dunnes suffice instead of tescos
If i can't be safe at home I am heading to the nearest bank, securities doors etc it is perfect!

CaoimH_in

Kromdar wrote: »

also, the zombies could take longer than 2 months to die, so, uou may need to raid that tescos every now and again. but don't hold up there.

Im in tesco's food store?! Im sure I can ration out that to last me... yeears?! much longer then 2 months?

true about the banks, but see, the bank would probably be closed? thus those doors? working against you there, and lacking of food? not a good pllace at all, tesco tbh.

Milky Moo

If you are going to stay anywhere yet are willng to get out there for re-con(for lack of a better word) the bank is probably your safest option,the whole gettin in would be a problem though

Kess73

Most banks have glass at the front, plus the security doors in most are just glass, re enforced, but glass nonetheless, weight of numbers would eventually shatter it.


Also police stations is where lots of people would run to, meaning lots of noise plus lots of z's



Heading to isolated areas in small groups with as much by way of supplies as can be brought is my preferred method, with a number of back up areas to move to if needed.

Kromdar

yea police stations would be a bad idea. that said, anyone running to the nearest army barracks will probably encounter the exact same problem. granted, they're better prepared. but why would the army let civilians in? and not just shoot at them?

anyway. better than tescos? [and i've checked, most supermarkets only stock food that lasts until 2011~2012 at the moment] go to a supermarket's suppliers, or a logistics company. chances are you'll get fresher stock, and possibly some other stuff that is being shipped elsewhere. also, no big glass windows, and a possibility of other tools or equipment that aren't store-related being there too. or even a forklift

Milky Moo

I have always wondered if the country side is really the best bet.

With the country you would have to make trips to the city to look for supplies more then likely,and the length of the trips would heightened your chances of running into them. If you did you could unawaringly lead them back to your home.

Yeah after the initial wave of zombies and the panic etc it would be one of the safest options,but after a year or so when they've exhausted their supply in towns and cities,they would begin to wander and spread out.


If it's been awhile you could easily become complacent and not ready for attacks.

Kess73

Milky Moo wrote: »

I have always wondered if the country side is really the best bet.

With the country you would have to make trips to the city to look for supplies more then likely,and the length of the trips would heightened your chances of running into them. If you did you could unawaringly lead them back to your home.

Yeah after the initial wave of zombies and the panic etc it would be one of the safest options,but after a year or so when they've exhausted their supply in towns and cities,they would begin to wander and spread out.


If it's been awhile you could easily become complacent and not ready for attacks.

I agree that there could be a chance of a blotting effect after a time where the Zs run out of fresh food and start to spread out. But if it took them a year or more to do so, then decomposition will have well and truly have started.

I think away from the bigger towns and cities is the best way, as while you may stay quiet and try not to draw attention, who says others hiding will do the same. Some people screaming in a building beside where you are hiding may just draw huge crowds of Zs into your area, increasing the chances of you getting found.


Isolated areas mean less people there to start with, so less Zs, if any, to deal with in order to set up safehouses. Also a lot of houses in rural areas are old, and therefore made of thick stonewalls and heavy doors unlike most houses in cities. Even some of the old castles etc would be ideal to further fortified as they will have their original walls and many have huge thick gates, and in some cases, still have moats at the front, so only the entrance would have to be blocked.


Supply warehouses for the supermarket chains would be the places to raid for food, and in some cases, would be ideal for short term bases, like the Lidl depot just outside Charleville in Cork.

Kromdar

Kess73 wrote: »

Isolated areas mean less people there to start with, so less Zs, if any, to deal with in order to set up safehouses. Also a lot of houses in rural areas are old, and therefore made of thick stonewalls and heavy doors unlike most houses in cities. Even some of the old castles etc would be ideal to further fortified as they will have their original walls and many have huge thick gates, and in some cases, still have moats at the front, so only the entrance would have to be blocked.

try dublin's inner city, or any inner city area, plenty of modern thick walls and doors there.

Kess73

Kromdar wrote: »

try dublin's inner city, or any inner city area, plenty of modern thick walls and doors there.

Not much good to me, I would have to travel through over 125 miles of Zs to get there.


Plus Dublin has a population of well over a million people, that is a sea of Zs. They can keep hitting at any barricade and not get tired, so not going to be easy to keep that many out. Plus there is one other possible problem, most people seem to be basing their plans on it being shufflers, all well and good until we end up being wrong and the sods end up being sprinters until rigor mortis catches up with them

Me, I will base plans on them being quicker and stronger than we expect, and if they do turn out to be shufflers, well I have more time on my hands with a base of operations designed to keep out a stronger enemy than there actually is.

Kess73

Another problem is that I think a lot of people would make there way to Dublin expecting it to be safer as most would have no Z knowledge and just head for the capital thinking that the Gardai/Army/Knackers will fight off the coming Zs.

Kess73

And what is the Dail was in session when it happened? That would mean a zombie Mary Harney was on the streets of Dublin. Now that would be one hungry Z. Imagine her like a bigger version of the fat Z in the Dawn remake

Milky Moo

What about cinemas they generally don't have many windows and have aload of levels so if you destroyed or blocked the stairs and go to the top floor you could be ok,plus popcorn so yay!

RandolphEsq

My plan is to get a group to hijack a docked ferry in Dun Laoire and sail it out to see. This will happen after the nearby tesco is looted of all its food. Should be ok just a bit out in the centre of Dublin bay

ScumLord

Milky Moo wrote: »

I have always wondered if the country side is really the best bet.

With the country you would have to make trips to the city to look for supplies more then likely,and the length of the trips would heightened your chances of running into them. If you did you could unawaringly lead them back to your home.

I think trips into the city wouldn't be at all necessary. Most Irish towns are no more than 10 miles from each other. I've got around 10 towns within a 15 mile radius of my own town. Most have their own supermarket/petrol station. You've got hundreds of resources scattered around the Irish country side there's no need to ever go near the major cities.

Kromdar

BrightEyes wrote: »

My plan is to get a group to hijack a docked ferry in Dun Laoire and sail it out to see. This will happen after the nearby tesco is looted of all its food. Should be ok just a bit out in the centre of Dublin bay

one ferry goes in and out of dun laoghaire - the HSS. and if it's not there? you've got a few small fishing vessels, and maybe the CIL's Granuaile

other than that, no ferry.

go to dublin port, god knows how many ferries are parked there, or larger container ships or cargo ships.

also, loot an entire tescos? how many trucks do you have, and how big's that army of yours :pac:

also, i'm assuming you know how to start and drive a ferry...

RandolphEsq

Kromdar wrote: »

1-one ferry goes in and out of dun laoghaire - the HSS. and if it's not there? you've got a few small fishing vessels, and maybe the CIL's Granuaile

other than that, no ferry.

go to dublin port, god knows how many ferries are parked there, or larger container ships or cargo ships.

2-also, loot an entire tescos? how many trucks do you have, and how big's that army of yours :pac:

3-also, i'm assuming you know how to start and drive a ferry...

1-A yacht will do fine so. Actually the ferry would suffice even if it were docked; zombies wouldn't be able to get aboard if the planks were pulled in.

2-perhaps not an entire Tescos but recurring trips can be made if at Dun Laoire.

3-Don't have to sail out (point 1)

Keogg

CaoimH_in wrote: »

hmm, Milky..

right, heres the plan. One magic word. Tescos.
my house is located on a top of a hill, so, moving quickly and silently, volting over backwalls until I reach the bottom of the hill, at which point, observing activity from the final hedgerow. Seeing if there is any activity, being a zombie story, or zombie reality, its based on films, thus meaning, coast looks clear, and tesco, usually a large lit up building with glass walls, is dark, moving quickly, sneaking into tescos being sure to keep my head down and moving between cars, and always being extremely weary about zombies being underneath the cars, inside the cars, or hidden around the corners of cars. Moving to the presumably open doors of tesco (I mean.. When does it close?) moving quickly and directly to the back door, located at the end of the line of till's to your immdiate right as you pass through the main entrance, getting in there, moving to the store room. Presumably i'd have to face a zombie at this point, i.e one in the corridor or in the store room itself, depending on the situation, would sneak past him, or let him pass me (holding mouth against breathing etc) or simply return to "home improvements" isle, and getting a shovel, and return to the zombie and beheading him, seeing as zombies usually move in packs, being weary, and moving quickly but quietly, getting into the store room, and locking the doors by pushing crates layden with food infront of the door, using the wrapping of the food packaging, sticking the packaging and covering the windows, then, holding up there for 2 months, rationing my food, at which point, the zombies either would be all dead, or numbers seriously reduced, to which moving quickly getting out of tesco and inspecting the situation, if it has gotten better, contintue and look for help, worse, back to the store room.

If it got better, moving quickly, and quietly, move towards the Gardai barracks located in the centre of town (Nenagh), finding any available guns etc, trying phonelines, getting a car, learn to drive, then move towards Limerick, to which point seeing as it is a built up area, searching for a check point.

I have no life.

That is a brilliant plan... Pity for me, closest big shop I've got is a Super Valu (gay ) well not enough food for 2 months or more... not to mention its a 10 minute walk... with zombies parading around? I doubt i'd make it:(

oh, btw, thats the best kind of life!!

Setheme

Get a bike - u will make it in no time. :pac:

Blitzkrieger

CaoimH_in wrote: »

getting a car, learn to drive, then move towards Limerick,

....

I have no life.

I think I see why


I reckon the local castle would be the best spot. It's got big thick doors on the ground level which would probably be locked, but I could get up on the walls and kick in a window. I could smash the stairs (stone - so that wouldn't be easy) and live on the upper floors. There's a spot at the back that (for the want of economical description) is like the grate under the front entrance of 2fort. Park a truck/tractor there and use a rope ladder to get in and out and Robert's your mother's brother. Should be plenty of supplies to scavange around the place, and as it's local, I know where to go if I need tools or anything.

Jesus Juice

In my town me and friend planned it out that the local Centra would be perfect because its a small bit out of town,beside a river and there's apartments on top which you could easily break through the ceiling for food...We would hide out there for a couple of weeks and if we really need too we can raft down the river till the Shannon,steal a boat and head for the coast!

cyberwolf77

Here's eleven possible plans. Not my own of course, I plan to use ingenuity as my survival plan.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/whats-your-zombie-contingency-plan-11-practical-strategies/

Setheme

Jesus Juice wrote: »

Centra would be perfect

What if zombies break or push wthe windows out of the frames? What if zombies will be in the houses on top? :P

Jesus Juice

Setheme wrote: »

What if zombies break or push wthe windows out of the frames? What if zombies will be in the houses on top? :P

Steel shutters go over all the windows and doors and if there is we'll just have to do some clearance!:D

movingsheepdip

step 1: know your zombie.i suggest trapping it in a cattle pen or something and find out what pisses it off( hot tar, cabbages etc) and what it likes(more than likely feasting on human brains)

step 2: venture outside...mad max style!make your own outlandish armour
and weapons(nails thru a hurley or sumthin).soup up your car(in my case, a berlingo) with more outlandish weapons.the more insane the better.

step 3: befriend some blonde cheerleaders, and perhaps a fat kid to use as some zombie feed.

step 4: venture to the nearest old folks home.enjoy battering the bejaysus out of zombies with your mace-hurley with the hot blondes(whilst listening to death metal,of course), while the remaining zombies dig into old paddy and fat kid!