IWA Show, Germany

Masada

Anyone else head over? I took loads of pics of some very interesting new airsoft products, got to play with the MP44 and cyma thompson with drum magazine aswell as loads more.

spicey, tony wanted you to see this.,



I'll post up some pics of what we saw when they've uploaded,

NakedDex

Best picture ever. Tony as redshirt #4 from the upcoming Star Trek movie.

andy_g

he fits right in as a german look alike in that pic :P have to agree dex

Jay TLR

Separated at birth?

hairball

lol...looks like:)

Witcher

Masada wrote: »

Buy from Eirsoft or else:P

Masada

Back on topic lads,

this is a cybergun model of the cyma so it will be availible under 1J,.:)






Some other news also, got to tinker with the upcoming M14 EBR from G&G, the quality is fantastic and it weighs a ton. theres some other new bits coming from them too including full stock MP5's with blowback. the new Sig 550 is a piece of art and theres defo an FN2000 in the making from G&G.

spicymchaggis

Masada wrote: »

Anyone else head over? I took loads of pics of some very interesting new airsoft products, got to play with the MP44 and cyma thompson with drum magazine aswell as loads more.

spicey, tony wanted you to see this.,



I'll post up some pics of what we saw when they've uploaded,

freakin sweet, pity its gas operated,

Shiva

Masada wrote: »

Some other news also, got to tinker with the upcoming M14 EBR from G&G, the quality is fantastic and it weighs a ton. theres some other new bits coming from them too including full stock MP5's with blowback. the new Sig 550 is a piece of art and theres defo an FN2000 in the making from G&G.

And there's definitely no AUG A3 on the horizon from G&G :-(

The DSR in the pic was at the Redwolf stand, and is a beautiful piece of kit. They also had some tasty .50 cal sniper goodness. The ASG stand had some interesting new pistols, and a prototype .338 from CA - no word yet if it's gas or spring operated, but it looks pretty sweet.

spicymchaggis

Shiva wrote: »

And there's definitely no AUG A3 on the horizon from G&G :-(

The DSR in the pic was at the Redwolf stand, and is a beautiful piece of kit. They also had some tasty .50 cal sniper goodness. The ASG stand had some interesting new pistols, and a prototype .338 from CA - no word yet if it's gas or spring operated, but it looks pretty sweet.

if the .50 cal was in red wolf stand its the socom gear one thats comin out, they have it marked same price as dsr-1 but im sure thats to change

kevteljeur

Shiva wrote: »

And there's definitely no AUG A3 on the horizon from G&G :-(

Haharrrgh! My skepticism was justified! And the guy who sells the only other viable A3 model no doubt weeps into the piles of euro surrounding him ;-)


No matter, I think the A3 can be modded to be more realistic, and it's not like it isn't close as it is. I'd pay you and your henchmen for that kit, by the way. We can negotiate.

Fiach Dubh

If G&G decide to make the grenade launcher and optics for the F2000 I may just get excited about it.

Shiva

kevteljeur wrote: »

I'd pay you and your henchmen for that kit, by the way. We can negotiate.

Just so we're clear....they're minions, not henchmen.;)

Cheeky monkey

spicymchaggis wrote: »

freakin sweet, pity its gas operated,

Two words: CO2 rig

NakedDex

Fiach Dubh wrote: »

If G&G decide to make the grenade launcher and optics for the F2000 I may just get excited about it.

To my knowledge, it just uses the EGLM, same as the SCAR (makes sense since they're both FN rifles and that's the FN launcher). The question is whether under the front grip they'll have the component rail that allows the foregrip to be swapped between the standard, the P90-esque version and the EGLM.
I'd put money on the optics not coming out, but I'd dearly like to be wrong.

Puding

Two words: CO2 rig

far beter versions out there than this one, a guy on arnies makes a very nice custom rig, but external rigs are not everyone cup of tea

Masada

NakedDex wrote: »

To my knowledge, it just uses the EGLM, same as the SCAR (makes sense since they're both FN rifles and that's the FN launcher). The question is whether under the front grip they'll have the component rail that allows the foregrip to be swapped between the standard, the P90-esque version and the EGLM.
I'd put money on the optics not coming out, but I'd dearly like to be wrong.

the one for the FN2000 isnt actually the eglm, I might have pics of one somewhere, i started makin one ages ago for my JLS but never finished it.


edit, Heres a pic of it, if G&G make this i'll defo be their first customer.,

TheDoc

Shiva wrote: »

Just so we're clear....they're minions, not henchmen.;)

Tell me you got me something

spicymchaggis

Puding wrote: »

far beter versions out there than this one, a guy on arnies makes a very nice custom rig, but external rigs are not everyone cup of tea

yeah would be a hinderence

NakedDex

Masada wrote: »

the one for the FN2000 isnt actually the eglm, I might have pics of one somewhere, i started makin one ages ago for my JLS but never finished it.


edit, Heres a pic of it, if G&G make this i'll defo be their first customer.,

It's pretty damn close to being an EGLM then. That's the first image I've seen of it detached. The design is pretty damn similar, though the attachment method is clearly different.

Lemming

Any sign of the G&P Stoner? If the company are there, please get Richie to beat them about the head until they agree there and then to finish the prototype and start production. Like tomorrow

Ps. you missed 'Nam day* at HRTA today (for Richie's added incentive to beat the G&P representatives if present), complete with car blaring out the Full Metal Jacket soundtrack.


* Ok, so it wasn't quite 'Nam day - just me in full OD

Masada

lol., didnt see it there lemming, although the place is soooo big, theres probably another 50% we missed.
as for nam day..... I'll be having words when i get back., lol



This is ECHO1's mini gun on the Redwolf stall,


Chrimson Trace laser grips, availible for pretty much any pistol.



G&G EBR, possibly with blowback too.



This is a classic army version of the minigun, theres no internal mechanism in it at the moment, its just a shell., nice weight to it even without its internals, the redwolf one weighs 16KG.



This full metal revolver was a beauty.



In other news, Classic Army are working on an AW338, the prototype was there and its not too bad, its not StarAres quality but its still only a shell prototype.

Puding

Guay Guay FN FNC
- Action Sport Games (new Blaster BBs, Lewis Machine Tool licensed AEGs, new sniper rifles, new 6mm gas/CO2 replica revolvers and pistols) and Classic Army (blow back M4A1, SVD)
- Redwolf Airsoft (interview with Clarence Lai) and Carlton Chong from Airsoft Innovations (distraction device adapter kit and spoon kit for Tornado hand grenade)
- Gunfire.pl (blowback AKs, replica PSO and new electric kit, which makes replica more responsive and realistic)
- Crossman BBs (with very special function- more in our exclusive preview)
- new replica pistols and AEGs from KWA
- Cybergun IMI Tavor with working Mars sight

any news onthis tavor? from your pictures i see you have already been past there stand

TheDoc

Yeah screw mini guns

Actually, I know for a fact they are going to waltz back in here, with two Tavors, that they will say " o they came with the goodie bag we got"

scumbags

Masada

Puding wrote: »

any news onthis tavor? from your pictures i see you have already been past there stand

sorry man, the only tavor to be seen was the read deal. quite supprised actually, i thought even the Ares would be there.

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

Yeah screw mini guns

Actually, I know for a fact they are going to waltz back in here, with two Tavors, that they will say " o they came with the goodie bag we got"

scumbags

rofl., wait til you here about the G&G goodie bag, you wont believe what we got.,

Masada

Heres some more bits from KWA,

the new Sig P226 from KWA, uses the "system 7" gas mechanism and has an annodised sort of feel. myself and tony were very impressed with this pistol, its only across the way from the real deal Sig Saur stand so we didnt have to go far to compare. its way more solid than the KWA for instance, not nearly as shiney and it doesnt have any rattle at all.,

They also have the new M9 with all the same features.

(Heres the high res version,)http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3356991307_733b07d3db_o.jpg


(Heres the high res version,)http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/3357825972_b870e7a342_o.jpg

Gatling

some serious pieces of kit there,the KWA pistols are looking the biz

zero19

Classic army svds? Did i read that right? Hmmm, if they bring one out thats half decent i may just buy it..can nae afford one of those lovely real sword versions

spicymchaggis

any pics of the svd's or .50 cal?

Puding

pitty you missed this at the cydergun stand , there tavor is looking rather nice http://www.airsoft-news.eu/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.137

Cybergun
Speaking of Cybergun, they showed one extremely interesting product. AEG Tavor with working Mars red dot. First impressions of the replica: solid built and very hefty. All in all a solid product. The MARS sight was fully functional, all though the laser module was not working for obvious reasons, since such devices are ilegal in Germany. This is a step into a good direction for Cybergun and hopefully a long awaited departure from low end, low quality products. Hope floats they say...

Spetzcong

Puding wrote: »

pitty you missed this at the cydergun stand , there tavor is looking rather nice http://www.airsoft-news.eu/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.137

Ooooooh, me likey! Extra compact, for shooting those hard to reach places (like UN compounds, what? Too soon?)

The Master

Cybergun
Speaking of Cybergun, they showed one extremely interesting product. AEG Tavor with working Mars red dot.

Hmmm Me like very much

zero19

Finally a picture of a tavor that makes me like it. Much like the scar before it, its taken its time

Puding

only differance between the ares and cybergun version mars seems to be the working laser, wait years for a tavor and 3 come along

Hivemind187

Puding wrote: »

only differance between the ares and cybergun version mars seems to be the working laser, wait years for a tavor and 3 come along

Waitaminute ... CIE are branching out into AEG manufacture?

Puding

ok from watching that, i seems likely that the cybergun is a ares rebrand going by the finish and the qwick change spring

and king arms ARM in april!

Masada

They must have had it hidden in the back or something, thats the exact stall where the MP44 and Cybergun GALIL where.

I was also having a nosey at that FAMAS in the background there, its nice and solid, more so than the TM one too.


I have some pics of the upcoming Classic Army AW338, aswell as their L96. If an SVD means a Sniperish AK thingy, then yep, theres certainly one if them there too.
flickr has been hit and miss so i havent got them all uploaded yet.

peter-pantslez

i have to say im liking that tavor will eirsoft be gettign them in and if so how much will they be going for?

TheDoc

Hmmm


Any ETA on that Tavor then? Dont know which one to get, although that cybergun one is the only one I've seen thats actually, done and finished.

However im skeptical of buying what are essentially, a low end brand.

Masada

A low end brand? have you been under s rock? lol

they rebrand guns, any guns. not just clones.

TheDoc

Masada wrote: »

A low end brand? have you been under s rock? lol

they rebrand guns, any guns. not just clones.

o yeah got confuzzled

Captain Chaos

Masada wrote: »

I was also having a nosey at that FAMAS in the background there, its nice and solid, more so than the TM one too.

Any metal on it or is it still plastic all over like the TM?

On a side note, thought we had it bad here and there is Germany, no lasers and no full auto.:eek:

Masada

From speaking to people there, i think the law is the same as ours, with the exception of the 1J limit. they have a .5J limit and then any guns over that are not allowed to fire fully automatic. its all confuzzled with firearms law there too.

as for the FAMAS, I think it was mostly plastic and it was still pretty solid, the parts that were supposed to be metal were metal, even the bipod was pretty sturdy.

A.I.M

MOOOOOO :D:D THANKS FOR THE TAG ON MY DOOR:D:D:D

Masada wrote: »

From speaking to people there, i think the law is the same as ours, with the exception of the 1J limit. they have a .5J limit and then any guns over that are not allowed to fire fully automatic. its all confuzzled with firearms law there too.

as for the FAMAS, I think it was mostly plastic and it was still pretty solid, the parts that were supposed to be metal were metal, even the bipod was pretty sturdy.

Frank the Manc

A few decent pictures there lad was that Detonics RS?
the one with the Kimber-esque slide & Novak sights?

Also is that a mosfet in the systema GB or just a new type of trigger contact, im thinkin fet cos of the circut board?

Masada

Frank the Manc wrote: »

A few decent pictures there lad was that Detonics RS?
the one with the Kimber-esque slide & Novak sights?

Also is that a mosfet in the systema GB or just a new type of trigger contact, im thinkin fet cos of the circut board?

yep, there was a load of RS detonics there, loads of .45's in general.
the systema is an ingenious system really, the switch is completely computer controlled and that little piece sticking out at the sector gear is actually a light sensor to stop the gears in exactly the right spot. its full of nifty gadgetry but the bad news is... the version us sub 1J'ers are getting is only a 3 gear system much like a common gearbox. there will be some neat trickery going on inside it but i cant see it being a big enough step forward to justify its mental price.

Masada

A.I.M wrote: »

MOOOOOO :D:D THANKS FOR THE TAG ON MY DOOR:D:D:D

ROFL!
*Richie smacks takeAIM with big lump of pig meat*
You know, when you've been MOO'd!

Masada

The Cybergun stall,


This is a real Barret M82, just thought you all would like that scope,
The windage and elevation is adjustable as normal but displays it digitally, theres a range finder and everything all built into that scope, its a work of art.


This is the Umarex MP7A1 with proper trades, Ieve no idea who makes it but its not the new upcoming KWA GBB one. its probably a Galaxy or something.



These cases were brilliant, I'd love to get one with a stripped down AW338 inside.


Some new gear from ASG aswell, these are Co2 powered revolvers and Steyr M9 A1 pistol. there Rated at a little over 1J but theres downgraded ones in the pipeline.



Imagine trying to have a coffee at these tables.,lol

hoplite

FYI more IWA vids from AATV available here

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ScaarAT&view=videos

ED E

Masada wrote: »

This is the Umarex MP7A1 with proper trades, Ieve no idea who makes it but its not the new upcoming KWA GBB one. its probably a Galaxy or something.

Somebody linked a PDF from KWA earlier, and the MP7 had an asterix beside it indicating a Umarex Branding.....

A.I.M

ye ye ye i got a big lump of meat in yorma's :D:D:D

Masada wrote: »

ROFL!
*Richie smacks takeAIM with big lump of pig meat*
You know, when you've been MOO'd!