Do Blenders Ruin Protein Shakes?

O.P.H

This may be a little much but with the amount of money some of these mass gainers and protein shakes cost just wanna be sure I'm not wasting them. I know proteins can be denatured and ruined be excess processing etc. I use a smootie maker or blender to make my shakes and just want to know is it better to just mix them by hand or do blenders actually have a reducing effect on the protein shakes etc.

cowzerp

In my opinion i would say NO.
all blenders really do is mix the protein with the fluid!

Pro-Nutrition

O.P.H wrote: »

This may be a little much but with the amount of money some of these mass gainers and protein shakes cost just wanna be sure I'm not wasting them. I know proteins can be denatured and ruined be excess processing etc. I use a smootie maker or blender to make my shakes and just want to know is it better to just mix them by hand or do blenders actually have a reducing effect on the protein shakes etc.

No, to be honest you would be better using a shaker rather than having to clean the bloody blender afterwards. I use the blender when I am making myself a smoothie. But na the blender wont ruin the protein on you.

celestial

Your real question - seeing as you do mention the ridiculous cost of these things - is do you actually need them at all? And you don't. Really what you are doing is paying 30, 40 50 euro or more for something, some or most of which you are p*ssing down the toilet and that you can get in food in much better form - and without all the dubious looking ingredients.

Save yourself a lot of money, ignore the marketing hype and just eat real food! You could buy 15 - 20 cartons of eggs for the price of one tub of protein powder.

Pro-Nutrition

celestial wrote: »

Your real question - seeing as you do mention the ridiculous cost of these things - is do you actually need them at all? And you don't. Really what you are doing is paying 30, 40 50 euro or more for something, some or most of which you are p*ssing down the toilet and that you can get in food in much better form - and without all the dubious looking ingredients.

Save yourself a lot of money, ignore the marketing hype and just eat real food! You could buy 15 - 20 cartons of eggs for the price of one tub of protein powder.

Food is the way to do it alright but you would have to walk around with a ton of steak in order to get protein and nutrients that you need. Supplements should really be used to get extra protein etc etc in and if you cant get to food. 15-20 cartons of eggs, you can only eat so many eggs in a day

PeakOutput

celestial wrote: »

Your real question - seeing as you do mention the ridiculous cost of these things - is do you actually need them at all? And you don't. Really what you are doing is paying 30, 40 50 euro or more for something, some or most of which you are p*ssing down the toilet and that you can get in food in much better form - and without all the dubious looking ingredients.

Save yourself a lot of money, ignore the marketing hype and just eat real food! You could buy 15 - 20 cartons of eggs for the price of one tub of protein powder.

they really are not that expensive when you look at how long they can last

i just got 2.5Kg of whey for around 20/25euro. thats got around 30 if not more servings with 25g of protein in it. how much does a chicken breast have in it? how much would it cost to buy 30 or more chicken breasts(i know the answer to the second one it would cost 30euro)

yes they should be used as part of a balanced diet but if you are saying its cheaper to eat whole foods in the same quantities i think you might be wrong

Pro-Nutrition

PeakOutput wrote: »

they really are not that expensive when you look at how long they can last

i just got 2.5Kg of whey for around 20/25euro. thats got around 30 if not more servings with 25g of protein in it. how much does a chicken breast have in it? how much would it cost to buy 30 or more chicken breasts(i know the answer to the second one it would cost 30euro)

yes they should be used as part of a balanced diet but if you are saying its cheaper to eat whole foods in the same quantities i think you might be wrong

Your totally right, a chicken fillet would cost anywhere from 1-1.50 each. It would be great to be rich and all you would be eating every meal would be fillet steak.

banshee_bones

hi, im currently deciding on if i should go down the protein supplement road. Instructors in the gym are saying i need more protein for quicker recovery time etc (muscles in bits after a workout!) and they suggested the USN Diet Fuel Protein supplement, 1 kg for 30e.
I tried eating more youghurt and meat and stuff but I dont think i can physically force myself to eat any more than i do! Even if i know i have to! So i guess i am wondering is this the quick fix to my problem?

brianthebard

celestial wrote: »

Your real question - seeing as you do mention the ridiculous cost of these things - is do you actually need them at all? And you don't. Really what you are doing is paying 30, 40 50 euro or more for something, some or most of which you are p*ssing down the toilet and that you can get in food in much better form - and without all the dubious looking ingredients.

Proof?

jayoo

in argos you can get a nice smoothee maker, its called kenwood smoothee 2go, its bout 28 euro, have also seen it in dunnes, its very very easy to wash, which is the key in my opinion.

i personally have the magic bullet, :pac: it really is magic:pac:

rubadub

jayoo wrote: »

i personally have the magic bullet, :pac: it really is magic:pac:

I have too, great things, can stick ice in to have a really cold frosty shake, and just rinse them out to clean.

I think superquinn were selling them cheap recently, maybe still.

O.P.H

jayoo wrote: »

in argos you can get a nice smoothee maker, its called kenwood smoothee 2go, its bout 28 euro, have also seen it in dunnes, its very very easy to wash, which is the key in my opinion.

i personally have the magic bullet, :pac: it really is magic:pac:

Well if blenders are ok I'm gonna keep usin em. I have that Kenwood smoothie 2go aswell, its friggin brilliant. You blend the shake in the cup that you drink out of so you dont really have to clean anything. I'm usin MHP "Up Your Mass", so far so good. It suppose to be one of the best out there. 60 euro for your standard size tub. 60g of protein per serving. Also on creatine, Trec Nutrition CM3-1250, anyone know it, tablets are figgin big and hard to swallow.

celestial

banshee_bones wrote: »

hi, im currently deciding on if i should go down the protein supplement road. Instructors in the gym are saying i need more protein for quicker recovery time etc (muscles in bits after a workout!) and they suggested the USN Diet Fuel Protein supplement, 1 kg for 30e.
I tried eating more youghurt and meat and stuff but I dont think i can physically force myself to eat any more than i do! Even if i know i have to! So i guess i am wondering is this the quick fix to my problem?

And let me guess - the supplements they are recommending are on sale in the gym?

What stage are you at? What are you lifting and how often? It depends on lots of things - frequency of workouts, amount of quality sleep you are getting, your level of experience with weights etc..

joepenguin

Protein powder is probably the most cost effective and convenient way of getting protein in. I wouldnt recommend anyone use it as their main source of protein but it has its place.
banshee-bones: I find RAM from nutrtion-x excellent for recovery. Just take a serving after a workout and get your other protein from foods through the day. Have a look in the stickies as well to calculate the amount of protein/calories/carbs/fat etc you need in a day.

OP i would say (imo) that as long as its not blended for too long it should still be 100%. And just on the topic of blenders/juicers anyone know of good quality ones at a decent price? cheers

celestial

brianthebard wrote: »

Proof?

Protein requirements are around 1 - 1.5g per kg of bodyweight - you can very easily meet this requirement - without even trying - through regular food. Excess in excreted in urea. If you're an 80kg weight-training bloke, all you need to meet this is a 200g tin of tuna (22g protein), 2 225g tins of beans (24g protein), a ham and cheese sandwich (approx 22g protein) and a pint of milk (18g in protein). With this you are more than satisfying that requirement - and this is FAR from the total amount of food you eat in one day, most likely - especially for someone who trains.

So, given that you get your protein in no problem just from eating your various meals/snacks, the usual convenience argument that gets flung around this forum isn't valid. So why are you spending hundreds of euro a year on protein supplements?!

O.P.H

joepenguin wrote: »

Protein powder is probably the most cost effective and convenient way of getting protein in. I wouldnt recommend anyone use it as their main source of protein but it has its place.
banshee-bones: I find RAM from nutrtion-x excellent for recovery. Just take a serving after a workout and get your other protein from foods through the day. Have a look in the stickies as well to calculate the amount of protein/calories/carbs/fat etc you need in a day.

OP i would say (imo) that as long as its not blended for too long it should still be 100%. And just on the topic of blenders/juicers anyone know of good quality ones at a decent price? cheers

Sure did'nt we already tell ya....Kenwood Smoothie 2GO in Argos for 40 quid, brilliant, small unit and they give ya two cups to blend with. I'm always trowin fruit and veg in there for quick juice drinks or smoothies and great for shakes

delllat

celestial wrote: »

Protein requirements are around 1 - 1.5g per kg of bodyweight - you can very easily meet this requirement - without even trying - through regular food. Excess in excreted in urea. If you're an 80kg weight-training bloke, all you need to meet this is a 200g tin of tuna (22g protein), 2 225g tins of beans (24g protein), a ham and cheese sandwich (approx 22g protein) and a pint of milk (18g in protein). With this you are more than satisfying that requirement - and this is FAR from the total amount of food you eat in one day, most likely - especially for someone who trains.

So, given that you get your protein in no problem just from eating your various meals/snacks, the usual convenience argument that gets flung around this forum isn't valid. So why are you spending hundreds of euro a year on protein supplements?!

its just easier!

a protein shake is easier to manage than solid protein especially in the mornings

jayoo

i saw it in dunnes for 28euro last week:D

celestial

delllat wrote: »

its just easier!

a protein shake is easier to manage than solid protein especially in the mornings

Easier than a bowl of cereal with milk, easier than making a sandwich?

The point I'm making is that you get enough from your food anyway.

PeakOutput

celestial wrote: »

Easier than a bowl of cereal with milk, easier than making a sandwich?

i dont like eating solids in the morning most of the time so yes

The point I'm making is that you get enough from your food anyway.

its certainly possible to alright(and not hugely difficult with a bit of thought) but that dosnt mean its cheaper to or easier to

brianthebard

celestial wrote: »

Protein requirements are around 1 - 1.5g per kg of bodyweight - you can very easily meet this requirement - without even trying - through regular food. Excess in excreted in urea.

Are you saying that if I eat 150g of protein my body is going to start peeing out any more protein I ingest in a day? I'm not sure I buy that.

delllat

celestial wrote: »

Easier than a bowl of cereal with milk, easier than making a sandwich?

The point I'm making is that you get enough from your food anyway.

it depends what results youre after,for the majority of people eating 3 meals a day will suffice for protein intake

however its not going to repair the muscles of a 100kg+ bodybuilder whos destroying his muscles with heavy weights nearly every day of the week and maybe playing a sport or working a physical job as well

i agree that most supplements are a waste of money but protein is a food group, shakes are just another form of it

also the digestibility and bio-availability of whey protein is higher than any other form of protein ,hence a shake will get to the muscles faster and be absorbed more readily

celestial

brianthebard wrote: »

Are you saying that if I eat 150g of protein my body is going to start peeing out any more protein I ingest in a day? I'm not sure I buy that.

Not just that but yes - excreted as ammonia (by-product of protein breakdown) or stored as fat! Just like an excess of carbs or fats.