The Beatbox with Dave Fanning

Irishwiseguy

Hi Guys,

I'm currently researching music programs on Irish Television, but I can't seem to find much info on the old music show called The Beatbox. All I know is that it was hosted by Dave Fanning, that it aired on RTE2 and 2FM and that it eventually changed its name to 2tv.

Has anyone got info on the show? Such as when it started and when it ended? And reasons why?

Any help will be much appreciated.
Sort of in a tight spot for info.

Irishwiseguy.

kaisersose77

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055073176

simon young presented it when it was the beat box, think it changed its name by the time dave fanning presented

Singer73

Ian Dempsey may have been the original presenter. Then Simon Young and Peter Collins. Start up Irish Bands got good PR on this show. But when Smiley Bolger was getting a reglar slot, it was time for it to end. Unfortunately nothing replaced it....

grumpytrousers

Started off being presented by Barry Lang, i think. RTE made a bit deal of it being a simulcast. Before the advent of Stereo TV transmission, the idea was that you watched the pictures on RTE 2 and listened to the FM stereo sound on Radio 2, as it was then.

Elmo

kaisersose77 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055073176

simon young presented it when it was the beat box, think it changed its name by the time dave fanning presented

Fanning presented it as the Beat Box for a few year before it became 2TV.

It started in the mid-1980s with Barry Lang.

Mailbag and later Weekly Review used to get letters in asking for the show to go out at 1 rather then 11 because mass was at mid-day!!!!!

Boards a year after it was axed: -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67068&highlight=2tv

I need to stop posting for a while I think.

moe_sizlak

Elmo wrote: »

Fanning presented it as the Beat Box for a few year before it became 2TV.

It started in the mid-1980s with Barry Lang.

Mailbag and later Weekly Review used to get letters in asking for the show to go out at 1 rather then 11 because mass was at mid-day!!!!!

Boards a year after it was axed: -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67068&highlight=2tv

I need to stop posting for a while I think.

dave fanning never presented the beat box , the beat box ended in about may 1995 and was presented by ian dempsey at the time , peter collins and simon young presented the show before ian dempsey , i dont remember barry lang presenting it but it sounds right

in september 1995 , dave fanning presented a show which was almost identical to the beat box called 2tv , he continued to present this show untill about 1999 or 2000

Elmo

I am fairly certain that Dave presented The Beat Box for at least a year before they renamed it 2TV.

calex71

god this brings back memories.

used to sit every sunday morning waiting to tape the good songs - bet if i look ill find those tapes somewhere here too :pac:

Irishwiseguy

Thanks guys, some great info here.

Anybody know why it was axed? Any dates would be really appreciated.


Thanks again.


PS; I am also researching The Last Broadcast. I can't seem to find any info on the RTE website. Is the show still running? Does anyone know when it first started? Sorry about all these questions. Thanks again

Elmo

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

Thanks guys, some great info here.

Anybody know why it was axed? Any dates would be really appreciated.


Thanks again.


PS; I am also researching The Last Broadcast. I can't seem to find any info on the RTE website. Is the show still running? Does anyone know when it first started? Sorry about all these questions. Thanks again

It possible had run it course by the end of the series, 2TV had stop simulcasts with 2FM about 3 years before it ended on N2. Byank Lykes had a Morning Show base of the show on N2 for about a year before Irealand AM appear. It was prerecorded.

The Last Broadcast ended just last year and has now been replaced by The 11th Hour on Wednesday Nights. I think it may have started in around 2004.

sceptre

grumpytrousers wrote: »

Started off being presented by Barry Lang, i think. RTE made a bit deal of it being a simulcast. Before the advent of Stereo TV transmission, the idea was that you watched the pictures on RTE 2 and listened to the FM stereo sound on Radio 2, as it was then.

^as above.

They used to do specials at the start before it became a regular thing. A simulcast on St Patricks Day, Easter Monday, that kind of thing. In the mid-late 80s RTE were heavily pushing their broadcasts on VHF/FM (most people were still listening on MW) and it was a handy excuse to get the wonderousness of stereo sound advertised on the TV as well as the radio.

Bondvillain

Bianca Luykx was a staple of the show during the Fanning years, and as well as her later post-2tv appearances , she presented something called "The Buzz with Bianca" on local radio (possibly East coast fm) afterwards.

Not that it matters, but she was quite the looker.

Green Hornet

Singer73 wrote: »

But when Smiley Bolger was getting a reglar slot, it was time for it to end.

That idiot used to really annoy me. Always going on about his friendship with "Phillo". I remember him and Brush Shields had a big dust up on air about who knew Lynott better.

Armin_Tamzarian

No 5.1 surround sound back in them days.

It used be the 'done thing' to turn your TV volume down and
put the radio on to get stereo.
God, now I feel really old.

Dave Fanning's famous 'Boyzone gaff' was priceless...

Irishwiseguy

Elmo wrote: »

It possible had run it course by the end of the series, 2TV had stop simulcasts with 2FM about 3 years before it ended on N2. Byank Lykes had a Morning Show base of the show on N2 for about a year before Irealand AM appear. It was prerecorded.

The Last Broadcast ended just last year and has now been replaced by The 11th Hour on Wednesday Nights. I think it may have started in around 2004.

Thanks Elmo. You wouldn't have any links to The 11th hour by any chance?
Its not on RTE's programmes list for some reason.

No 5.1 surround sound back in them days.

It used be the 'done thing' to turn your TV volume down and
put the radio on to get stereo.
God, now I feel really old.

Dave Fanning's famous 'Boyzone gaff' was priceless...

Now thats just hilarious:D

BTW; Anyone here watch Other Voices? I have only seen it once and I caught Eric Bibb and Lisa Hannigan, brilliant. Anyone know when Other Voices started?

Elmo

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

Thanks Elmo. You wouldn't have any links to The 11th hour by any chance?
Its not on RTE's programmes list for some reason.

No I don't think it is an independent production company I think it is an in house production. You will just have to watch it on Wednesday night.

also if this is of interest to you - Other Voices

Irishwiseguy

Thanks again Elmo. I have also heard of the show by the name of 'No Disco'. Did anyone here follow it when it was running? All I know is that it came before The Last Broadcast and that the presenter Uaneen Fitzsimons died in a car crash in 2000.

If anyone has any info at all, or opinions, I will owe you one.


Ps; Anybody know when Other Voices started?
PPS; Yes I know I must be getting very annoying by this stage

Elmo

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

Thanks again Elmo. I have also heard of the show by the name of 'No Disco'. Did anyone here follow it when it was running? All I know is that it came before The Last Broadcast and that the presenter Uaneen Fitzsimons died in a car crash in 2000.

If anyone has any info at all, or opinions, I will owe you one.


Ps; Anybody know when Other Voices started?
PPS; Yes I know I must be getting very annoying by this stage

Yeah! Uaneen was great on No Disco, she used to give presents to her interviewees.

I think Wikipedia is your best bet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Disco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Voices_(TV_series)

Or IMDB

There isn't much on these shows.

What are you looking for what is the title of your project?

moe_sizlak

Elmo wrote: »

I am fairly certain that Dave presented The Beat Box for at least a year before they renamed it 2TV.

afraid not

ive an elephants recolection for useless info

Armin_Tamzarian

What ever happened to Simon Young?

The only time I've heard from him in recent years is
on the radio,
playing the father in those lame,"It's all there, in The Square" advertisements.

Irishwiseguy

Elmo wrote: »

Yeah! Uaneen was great on No Disco, she used to give presents to her interviewees.

I think Wikipedia is your best bet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Disco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Voices_(TV_series)

Or IMDB

There isn't much on these shows.

What are you looking for what is the title of your project?

Music in Irish Broadcasting.

So I'm just trying to get some basic info on some of the big music programs over the years. Harder to come by the info then I thought it would be.

Elmo

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

Music in Irish Broadcasting.

So I'm just trying to get some basic info on some of the big music programs over the years. Harder to come by the info then I thought it would be.

Music in Irish Broadcasting is very wide, because it could be any genre.

2TV for example was pop hosted by Dave who wanted to be presenting an Indie programme but enjoyed slagging off all of the pop stars and videos. Brilliant

The Beat Box was more like a morning radio show on the TV. And While I don't remember Music TV from the USA it was The Beat Box's predessor.

No Disco, Other Voices and the Last Broadcast are Indie. The Plastic Orange was also Indie music (aka Jo Maxi just a musical version)

TG4 had a dance music show a few years ago very similar to No Disco in style and RIRA. POP 4 and O Bun go Bar.

TV3 mmmmm Pop Cubed or some other show similar to RTÉ's Top 30 Hits.

And Channel 6 had Nightshift and Popscene.

And then you have Trad shows like Come West Along the Road.

ive an elephants recolection for useless info

But so do I e.g. Did you know The Den started on RTÉ ONE? or That Thelma Mansfeild used to present a show like Live at Three incorporating Children's TV :eek: Only just barely remember that.

Elmo

A basic History of Music TV on RTÉ i.e. Music Videos

Early 1980's Music TV from the USA
Vague memory of Larry Gogan's Golden Hour on RTE TWO
Then you have the Beat Box/2TV

2TV which I remember more had a few spin off shows such as Byanka Lykes in the Morning circa 1998 and Jon Slattery with golden oldies at night circa 1998 he did kind of top twenty shows. This was part of the new look N2, which also had Ray D'arcy interview The Spice Girls and other pop star of the time.

Do not forget Planet Rock Profiles possibly Ireland's biggest export, present by Dave Fanning and Tom Dunne.

Top 30 Hit's which had a run down of the top 30 plus top 10 album and dance charts.

Number 1, a pop quiz show from the mid 1980s with Dave Heffernan/Ian Dempsey has hosts and Gerry Ryan/Dave Fanning and Your man from Def Lepord as team captains, kind of like Never Mind the Buzzcocks.

The Den used to show Pop Video's at the end of each show and had a slot called The Den goes Pop with Simon Young later Emma Ledden and Liz Bonnin. And Friday's Fab Four as submitted by the audience.

Looking back RTE TWO had far more music programmes then MTV does now.

Irishwiseguy

Thanks Elmo (again), you have a mind full of information.
Ya the project topic is incredibly broad. I assume music programs in Ireland would of taken a hit with the release of MTV in europe, any idea when MTV first started broadcasting in Europe and when you could first pick it up over here? Unfortunetly I was too young at the time to remember.

As for Channel 6, well now 3E. I don't think there are any music shows on it at the moment.

Irish.

Elmo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Europe

1987 like most satellite channels I guess. Available on Cablelink in Dublin at least not sure about the other cable/mmds operators at the time.

Not really so few people had MTV, the main terrestrial channels at the time continue for many years after that providing music shows. Remember 1987 had RTE 1 and N2 only via aerial and mainly just BBC 1, 2, UTV and C4 via cable with some spillover. 1987 saw the intro of Super Channel now AFAIK CNBC Europe and Sky was called something else before being relaunched in 1989. So Network 2's relaunch in 1988 was to provide more youth programming.

Irishwiseguy

Your a savior Elmo.:D

Hmmmm, Do I have another questions? Can't think of any at the moment. I'm sure I will in..... oh........about 5 minutes, lol.

Thanks again.

Elmo

Beatbox news

calex71

god what was the show that used to be on early to mid 90's post 'the den' pre home and away? remember seeing therapy? video here for the 1st time its on the tip of my tounge and driving me mad now .

and Bianca Luykx my god what a **** blast from the past

@elmo thanks for that vid brought tears to my eyes lmao

Elmo

calex71 wrote: »

god what was the show that used to be on early to mid 90's post 'the den' pre home and away? remember seeing therapy? video here for the 1st time its on the tip of my tounge and driving me mad now .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Maxi

starn

Found Barry Langs homepage just remeber to put your sunglasses on before clinking on the link.

http://www.iol.ie/~langb/

calex71

Elmo wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Maxi

So obvious it hurts , thanks for that elmo I truely would have lost sleep trying to remember that one, as soon as i saw it i kicked myself for not remembering it.

moe_sizlak

Elmo wrote: »

Music in Irish Broadcasting is very wide, because it could be any genre.

2TV for example was pop hosted by Dave who wanted to be presenting an Indie programme but enjoyed slagging off all of the pop stars and videos. Brilliant

The Beat Box was more like a morning radio show on the TV. And While I don't remember Music TV from the USA it was The Beat Box's predessor.

No Disco, Other Voices and the Last Broadcast are Indie. The Plastic Orange was also Indie music (aka Jo Maxi just a musical version)

TG4 had a dance music show a few years ago very similar to No Disco in style and RIRA. POP 4 and O Bun go Bar.

TV3 mmmmm Pop Cubed or some other show similar to RTÉ's Top 30 Hits.

And Channel 6 had Nightshift and Popscene.

And then you have Trad shows like Come West Along the Road.



But so do I e.g. Did you know The Den started on RTÉ ONE? or That Thelma Mansfeild used to present a show like Live at Three incorporating Children's TV :eek: Only just barely remember that.

yes , i too am sad enough to remember thelma mansfield presenting childrens shows , the den came along around 1986 and was 1st presented by ian dempsey , was called dempseys den back then

icdg

Elmo wrote: »

A basic History of Music TV on RTÉ i.e. Music Videos

Early 1980's Music TV from the USA
Vague memory of Larry Gogan's Golden Hour on RTE TWO
Then you have the Beat Box/2TV

2TV which I remember more had a few spin off shows such as Byanka Lykes in the Morning circa 1998 and Jon Slattery with golden oldies at night circa 1998 he did kind of top twenty shows. This was part of the new look N2, which also had Ray D'arcy interview The Spice Girls and other pop star of the time.

Do not forget Planet Rock Profiles possibly Ireland's biggest export, present by Dave Fanning and Tom Dunne.

Top 30 Hit's which had a run down of the top 30 plus top 10 album and dance charts..

Top 30 Hits was really simply the ITV Chart Show format brought up to date and with less "computer-inspired" graphics. It was a big staple of the N2 era though and a prelude to Monday comedy nights, IIRC, for most of that period.

From my memory, the Beatbox and 2TV were nearly identical other than the presenter and titles/graphics. It was certainly the same idea - a simulcast between 2FM and RTÉ2 between 11:30am-1:30pm on a Sunday. The wierdest thing about the Beatbox was how they handled the 2FM news bulittens - the YouTube video that was previously posted on this thread shows exactly how they did it and it was so wierd to see the 2FM jingles (this being the classic "Station of the 90s" era) being played on TV. It looked nothing like any other RTÉ News programme on TV, of course, because it was being presented by the radio division.

It was blatant cross-promotion for 2FM, of course, but a cheap and cheerful way to fill two hours of TV on a Sunday at a time when most people outside Dublin wouldn't have had MTV.

Bondvillain

Apropos of nothing, I recall TV3's "Pop on 3" which despite the presenter (possibly Darragh Purcell? Not sure - all I can recall is that he looked a little like Beck Hansen and spoke with William Shatner type....unnecessary.......pauses. He was Sort of a Ross O Carroll Kelly re-imagining of Antoine Du Caunes, but slowed down, and without the humour.) was actually quite decent.

There was also Echo Island, a replacement for Jo Maxi, which also featured Irish music heavily. Presented by Dara O Briain, (and on occasion (and somewhat less endearingly) by Derek Mooney, Mary Kingston and that Blaithnaid woman from Ireland's got talent) it ran for a few years in English and Irish on alternate days.

Loveless

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

BTW; Anyone here watch Other Voices? I have only seen it once and I caught Eric Bibb and Lisa Hannigan, brilliant. Anyone know when Other Voices started?

I've some footage of Beatbox and 2TV on VHS at home. Fairly sure it used to be on from 11:30am to 1:30pm of a sunday morning with the simulcast.


I was at the first series of Other Voices (and most of the others too). The first series of Other Voices was recorded in December 2002 and broadcast on Network 2 at 9pm on Tuesday 25 February 2003.

Episode 1 The Frames
Episode 2 Damien Rice
Episode 3 Interference
Episode 4 Damien Dempsey
Episode 5 Nina Hynes
Episode 6 Josh Ritter
Episode 7 Compilation featuring Jerry Fish and Katell Keineg
Episode 8 Mundy
Episode 9 Maria Doyle Kennedy
Episode 10 Mark Geary
Episode 11 Compilation featuring Paddy Casey, Roesy and John Hegarty
Episode 12 emmett tinley
Episode 13 Compilation featuring Ronan Ó Snodaigh, Martin Finke, Barry McCormack, Paul Tiernan and Ger Wolfe

Loveless

Bondvillain wrote: »

Apropos of nothing, I recall TV3's "Pop on 3" which despite the presenter (possibly Darragh Purcell? Not sure - all I can recall is that he looked a little like Beck Hansen and spoke with William Shatner type....unnecessary.......pauses. He was Sort of a Ross O Carroll Kelly re-imagining of Antoine Du Caunes, but slowed down, and without the humour.) was actually quite decent.

Darragh Purcell did present Pop On 3 around 2001, have some footage recorded at home. It was sponsored by Playstation and remember them playing the likes of Bell X1, Cornelius, Pavement and Yo La Tengo....

Elmo

Bondvillain wrote: »

Apropos of nothing, I recall TV3's "Pop on 3" which despite the presenter (possibly Darragh Purcell? Not sure - all I can recall is that he looked a little like Beck Hansen and spoke with William Shatner type....unnecessary.......pauses. He was Sort of a Ross O Carroll Kelly re-imagining of Antoine Du Caunes, but slowed down, and without the humour.) was actually quite decent.

Long before I hated TV3, when I was giving them a chance. That guy irrated the hell out of me I am sure their is a thread on here with me giving out about him.

Or remember the Pepis Chart show.

RINO87

Did no disco not start during the summer, years and years ago, in the same slot as the beatbox (filled in for it during the summer), with donal dinneen presenting it, before it moved to what i think was a wednesday nite slot?

Elmo

RINO87 wrote: »

Did no disco not start during the summer, years and years ago, in the same slot as the beatbox (filled in for it during the summer), with donal dinneen presenting it, before it moved to what i think was a wednesday nite slot?

I wouldn't say so, Beatbox/2tv was usually was replace by sport.

icdg

Bondvillain wrote: »

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There was also Echo Island, a replacement for Jo Maxi, which also featured Irish music heavily. Presented by Dara O Briain, (and on occasion (and somewhat less endearingly) by Derek Mooney, Mary Kingston and that Blaithnaid woman from Ireland's got talent) it ran for a few years in English and Irish on alternate days.

I wouldn't call Echo Island really a replacement for Jo-Maxi - Jo-Maxi/JMTV was firmly aimed at a teenage audience and aired at 18:00 wheras Echo was more an Irish version of Blue Peter, for older children and aired at 16:30 or thereabouts.

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

I wouldn't call Echo Island really a replacement for Jo-Maxi - Jo-Maxi/JMTV was firmly aimed at a teenage audience and aired at 18:00 wheras Echo was more an Irish version of Blue Peter, for older children and aired at 16:30 or thereabouts.

It was aimed at a younger audience but it basically kept much of the format of Jo-Maxi. RTÉ didn't replace Jo-Maxi rather they choose to go for a similar show for a younger audience. The closest thing to Jo-Maxi was Echo Island but yes a different time slot and a different audience.

Bondvillain

icdg wrote: »

I wouldn't call Echo Island really a replacement for Jo-Maxi - Jo-Maxi/JMTV was firmly aimed at a teenage audience and aired at 18:00 wheras Echo was more an Irish version of Blue Peter, for older children and aired at 16:30 or thereabouts.

17.30 (because of interference from the dept of Education over the News.) ... same topics, different presenters. Pretty much the same show, according to the production team. Trust me.

Worked on both.

Elmo

Bondvillain wrote: »

17.30 (because of interference from the dept of Education over the News.) ... same topics, different presenters. Pretty much the same show, according to the production team. Trust me.

Worked on both.

Echo Island was on at around 16:30.

The shows that replaced Jo Maxi where far more educational than what replaced them at 6.

Irishwiseguy

Thanks again to everyone who submitted their knowledge and opinions on the subject. An invaluable source of help.

Thanks again.:D

Elmo

Irishwiseguy wrote: »

Thanks again to everyone who submitted their knowledge and opinions on the subject. An invaluable source of help.

Thanks again.:D

what are your conclusions?

AnonoBoy

No Disco never was on a Sunday. It started in a late night slot and stayed there through three presenters - Donal Dineen, Uaneen Fitzsimmons and Leagues O'Toole.