Milk, pros and cons

jayoo

Ok
first of all lets go with skim milk. This is low in calories, and it breaks down slow, however it is high in carbs.

Now beore bed i want to consume something which will break down slowly, like milk however i dont want something which is high in carbs, like milk Hmmmmmm.

So my question is on the breakdown of milk, i know it realises its protein nice and slow, but does it also realses its carbs nice and slowly??

i actually have branched over to soya milk, 0.2 grams of carbs per 100mils, a cutters dream food ,

Hogzy

What a question to ask at quarter to three in the morning!
Go to bed and stop worrying about Milk

FunkZ

Whoa great second post there well done. Id imagine milk is not great for cutting in any way. Though its great for bulking. Drinking a gallon myself at the moment. But it is sugar filled carbs so i personally wouldnt touch a drop of it if i was on a cut!

Melted M&M

low fat milk is only watered down real milk and never heard of carbs in it
its full of protein

Kieo

so does warm milk help you sleep...microwave is waiting...zzzzzzz

Hanley

Melted M&M wrote: »

low fat milk is only watered down real milk and never heard of carbs in it
its full of protein

You might wanna look at th carton next time...

cormie

Check this out before you start downing gallons of milk

My friend was given two independent health checks and both came back with dairy being top of the list to cut out for her.

arse..biscuits

cormie wrote: »

Check this out before you start downing gallons of milk

My friend was given two independent health checks and both came back with dairy being top of the list to cut out for her.

I've always drank lots of milk, since I was a kid, tons of the stuff. I was in an accident a few years back and ended up in hospital with a fractured skull. The nurse asked if I drank a lot of milk because my skull is a bit thicker than average. So who knows, maybe milk helps your bones maybe not, but I'm not going to stop drinking it anyway

amazingemmet

Some milk is fine, going all out on it I don't agree with and any of the results I've seen haven't been impressive. Pretty much as soon as I drop dairy from my diet I get visibily leaner with out losing weight.

Colm_OReilly

That link starts to lose all merit when it says things like this: Diets high in fat and saturated fat can increase the risk of heart disease, among other serious health problems.

Cut out milk, see the effect it has on you. Reintroduce milk, see the effect it has on you. Then decide.

You also need to be careful looking at studies done on milk. Milk in the US is predominantly from grain fed cows. In Ireland/Europe, the cows are grass fed.

cormie

Colm_OReilly wrote: »

That link starts to lose all merit when it says things like this: Diets high in fat and saturated fat can increase the risk of heart disease, among other serious health problems.

why?

Colm_OReilly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

There's a good interview with Dr. Mike Eades and the maker of "Fat Head", Tom Naughton.

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/fast-food/fat-head-the-movie/

There's a post on either Dr Eades site or Robb Wolf's site that shows the pressure to conform to the lipid hypothesis in the face of overwhelming evidence that suggests the contrary but dog-garnit I just can't find it right now.

cormie

Far too much reading on the 2nd link :pac: The video didn't explain a lot though, basically just said the theory is wrong, doesn't mean everything else in my link loses credibility though if just one thing is incorrect due to the wrongdoings of an influential scientist

Are you saying diets high in saturated fats don't cause any serious health problems, are just aren't related to heart disease? I'd imagine diets high in saturated fats, as with any unbalanced diet, would have negative implications.

That's a good point about US milk compared to EU but I'd imagine they share some elements.

Theresalwaysone

Id say I drink a litre and a half a day on average.

I think I might have to cut back on it given some of the advice in this thread.

Im gonna cut it out for two weeks now and see what happens.

wasabi

jayoo wrote: »

Now beore bed i want to consume something which will break down slowly, like milk however i dont want something which is high in carbs, like milk Hmmmmmm.

Cottage cheese is perfect for before bed. Has a decent bit of casein, which is slow digesting. Not as much sugar as milk.

rubadub

Melted M&M wrote: »

low fat milk is only watered down real milk and never heard of carbs in it
its full of protein

Hanley wrote: »

You might wanna look at th carton next time...

+1. I find it bizarre how ignorant people are of ingredients/nutritional info when they have been clearly written there for decades. I was reading labels when I was 10, started out reading cereal boxes, read the back and then read the sides!

Skimmed milk has the fat skimmed off, it is not (supposed to be) watered down. When the fat is taken out the other ingredients will increase accordingly, take the alcohol out of vodka and it turns into 100% water. Take the fat out of milk and the protein and carbs increase slightly. Also most producers add in extra protein to the milk to make it seem more creamy.

There is more sugar (carbs) in skimmed milk than in full sugar lilt (albeit natural sugar).

jayoo

But, and heres the question that has puzzeled me since yesterday, do the carbs in milk break down at the usual rate or do they break down slowly like the protein in milk

compleatly agree with the ingornance part, how often have you heard "beans a great source of protein" as the person eats their bachlors beans on toast, Ha the bread has more protein per gram than the saucy slop, i still love beans thou :pac:

celestial

jayoo wrote: »

But, and heres the question that has puzzeled me since yesterday, do the carbs in milk break down at the usual rate or do they break down slowly like the protein in milk

compleatly agree with the ingornance part, how often have you heard "beans a great source of protein" as the person eats their bachlors beans on toast, Ha the bread has more protein per gram than the saucy slop, i still love beans thou :pac:

Milk is low-gi and its carbs will break down rather slowly. If you are looking to lose fat then a small amount is ok I reckon - I only take it in cereal and in coffee and find it doesn't stall my progress. It depends on what you take it with though! That said, to get really lean I would say cut it out or drink very little of it - this will depend on your goals though.

jayoo

Cheers buddy.

i have actually switched over to soya milk, which i quite like. and at 2grams of carbs per liter its pretty good:pac:

billyhead

IMO the only milk to drink is the proper full fat milk rather then any of this Soya/Low Fat milk mullarkey. I drink 2 litres of this per day and my bodyfat levels stays between 5-7%