Do You

Snowie

hey Im posting in herre because i wanan ask the genrall population of boards not just target one pacific group on board's..
When driving in the day,
Do you drive with or with out your light's on ?
reason I'm asking is, it apears that a lot more people drive with there light's on the road then 5 year's ago
I drive on the road with my lightss on have doen since i was riding moter bike's and Ive never once not driven with my light's on.
It's compusleray in skandinavian country's, i beleave hence why volvo's have there light's on all the time I think....
Do you think its a good idea to drive with your light's on or dissagree...

waraf

No it's safer for motorcyclists if car drivers do not drive with their lights on. You are more likely to notice a bike in your mirrors if he/she is the only one with a light on. You should know better as an ex-biker - tsk tsk....;)

and2

it seems the lights are on but nobody is home

SeekUp

Never really understood why more people have started doing that -- I mean, if you can't see me coming in broad daylight, then you shouldn't be driving in the first place.

stovelid

Of course. Fog lights too.

The intrepid convoy look makes me feel like I've got a big cock.

Hazys

I think u are required to do it in Sweden.

It should be a requirement in Ireland also. Just because its daytime doesnt mean its bright. On some really wet days, I've seen (or not seen) silver cars with no lights on, which is extremely dangerous.

Snowie

waraf wrote: »

No it's safer for motorcyclists if car drivers do not drive with their lights on. You are more likely to notice a bike in your mirrors if he/she is the only one with a light on. You should know better as an ex-biker - tsk tsk....;)

Its habbit man, and im not an x biker i just dont have one .

reason why i do it i don't think people take much notice when driving, and people in genrall arnt as perceptive...

Auvers

Taken for the RAC website


Daytime running lights

The practice of motorists switching on their driving lights during daytime hours is often referred to as Daytime Running Lights or DRL. As a road safety concept, it is based upon sound scientific fact:

* When objects occur in the peripheral areas of vision, much stronger contrasts are required if detection is to occur. When detection relies upon peripheral vision, there is a greater need for high colour and/or brightness contrast to allow prompt detection.
* Where the contrast between vehicle colour and background colour is strongest, detection is quickest.
o Best detection results can be achieved for all vehicles if low beam headlights are on.
o This is important because it is generally accepted that a large proportion of vehicular crashes could have been avoided if early detection had been possible.
* Laboratory-based studies have shown that the greater the brightness contrast between an object and its background, the greater the probability of the object being detected. The lower the ambient illumination, the greater the contrast ratio required between object and background.

r3nu4l

Yes, I drive with lights on in the mornings and evenings until Summer arrives. Of course, if it's a miserable wet day in the summer, then I'll stick the lights on anyway.

Holsten

Yes, I turn them on as soon as I'm in the car.

biko

waraf wrote: »

No it's safer for motorcyclists if car drivers do not drive with their lights on. You are more likely to notice a bike in your mirrors if he/she is the only one with a light on. You should know better as an ex-biker - tsk tsk....;)

Wtf? So you're saying the reason it's safer is because bikes have their lights on always and therefore cars shouldn't. Makes no sense.

Volvo daytime running lights ftw

Snowie

My lights are allways on I have in 10 years of driving allways had my light's on allways will on gray dull rainy day's you can't see car's i persoanlly think that all car's should have light's on from day to night regardless of weather.

Also garrage's should stock light bulbs for all car's and the cars should have a tool kit in them to replace the bulb... i think higher pentiltys points to drive's with only one light working...

Out of all the things on a car i think light are as important as saftey belt's...

Gone Drinking

Tailgate me again SUV mom, i'll beat your fcuking face in!

ScumLord

I don't really care what people do as long as they all turn them on at night. I can see cars perfectly will during sunlight hours.

r3nu4l

Auvers wrote: »

Taken for the RAC website


Daytime running lights

The practice of motorists switching on their driving lights during daytime hours is often referred to as Daytime Running Lights or DRL. As a road safety concept, it is based upon sound scientific fact:

* When objects occur in the peripheral areas of vision, much stronger contrasts are required if detection is to occur. When detection relies upon peripheral vision, there is a greater need for high colour and/or brightness contrast to allow prompt detection.
* Where the contrast between vehicle colour and background colour is strongest, detection is quickest.
o Best detection results can be achieved for all vehicles if low beam headlights are on.
o This is important because it is generally accepted that a large proportion of vehicular crashes could have been avoided if early detection had been possible.
* Laboratory-based studies have shown that the greater the brightness contrast between an object and its background, the greater the probability of the object being detected. The lower the ambient illumination, the greater the contrast ratio required between object and background.

WTF? Who do you think you are coming in here to AH and upping the tone of the place with your wildly accurate facts and sound logical thinking?

waraf

biko wrote: »

Wtf? So you're saying the reason it's safer is because bikes have their lights on always and therefore cars shouldn't. Makes no sense.

Volvo daytime running lights ftw

Though it was fairly obvious but I'll reiterate if you like....

Bikes should have their lights on during the day and cars shouldn't.

This means that if a person is driving in their car they are more likely to register a headlight in their rearview mirror or in their peripheral vision as a motorcycle rather than just another car.

The reason for this is that car drivers are often unaware of motorcyclists approaching them at speed from the rear or just filtering through traffic. Motorcyclists having their light on during the day increases the chances of them being spotted earlier by car drivers.

If everyone including car drivers has their lights on then the bikers don't stand out from the crowd.

I don't think I can be any clearer. It's all about biker safety as they are the most vulnerable on the road.

Auvers

r3nu4l wrote: »

WTF? Who do you think you are coming in here to AH and upping the tone of the place with your wildly accurate facts and sound logical thinking?

sh1te I dunno I seem to have lost the run of myself

Mena

I drive with my lights on all the time, day or night.

Who cares about bikers anyway :cool:

GeorgeCostanza

Keep them on at all times. It increases my visibility and makes the road safer for me and other drivers.

r3nu4l

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

...and the cars should have a tool kit in them to replace the bulb... i think higher pentiltys points to drive's with only one light working...

Well as has been discussed on the motors forum and demonstrated on Fifth Gear the TV show, in some particular makes of car it is absolutely impossible to change a front light bulb without going to a garage, having the car put on a ramp or jack, bumper removed, light fitting removed and bulb replaced. Not many people are able to do that themselves! It's a little unfair to give penalty points to drivers whose bulb has gone on a Thursday morning but can't find a garage to replace the bulb until Saturday for example.

The designers of these cars should be hung, drawn and quartered...or maybe just sent back to design school.

jim o doom

I'm a yes - but I don't have an option about it - both my motorcycles have an always on function I cannot disable. If I could switch them off? I still wouldn't - bikers need to be visible.

IMO it's unnecessary for cars to do so as they are very visible already - and if a bike is in front of a car and both vehicles have their lights on - the bike is then significantly less visible. On that basis I think bikes should have em on all the time and cars should not!

Sure it's totally biased - but yer relatively safe in a car - yer pretty fecked if someone don't see ya on a bike though!

Zangetsu

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

hey Im posting in herre because i wanan ask the genrall population of boards not just target one pacific group on board's..
When driving in the day,
Do you drive with or with out your light's on ?
reason I'm asking is, it apears that a lot more people drive with there light's on the road then 5 year's ago
I drive on the road with my lightss on have doen since i was riding moter bike's and Ive never once not driven with my light's on.
It's compusleray in skandinavian country's, i beleave hence why volvo's have there light's on all the time I think....
Do you think its a good idea to drive with your light's on or dissagree...

It would save me the hassle of having to flash every women squinting out thier window at night and wondering why...


Haha just read my post back, take it as you will...

biko

waraf wrote: »

Though it was fairly obvious but I'll reiterate if you like....
Bikes should have their lights on during the day and cars shouldn't.

Ok, I did understand but I won't turn my own lights off and decrease my view/visibility in case there might be a bike coming up behind me and intend to overtake. Any light will attract better attention than none and so everyone should have DRL imo. Perhaps it would be better if all bikers wear high viz and high viz helmets? Or flash a few times just before overtaking?

I do see a lot of cars driving without light at dusk and if it's also raining they can be pretty hard to spot, or actually I see them but sometimes they look like a parked car. If they had their lights on I'd know instantly they were in operation.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

I drive with my lights on at all times

Berty

Old people normally complain about people driving with their fog lights on so Skoda decided to put a sting in their ass(because old people drive skodas) and decided to put the sidelight(parking light) in the fog light housing and DRLs are always on so now the old farts have to drive with their fog lights on.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Abi

Zangetsu wrote: »

It would save me the hassle of having to flash people squinting out thier window at night and wondering why...

FYP


I had to do the same for a guy driving passed
last night.


I drive with lights on day and night, and appreciate when other drivers do too. It increases awareness imo.

Snowie

Berty wrote: »

Old people normally complain about people driving with their fog lights on so Skoda decided to put a sting in their ass(because old people drive skodas) and decided to put the sidelight(parking light) in the fog light housing and DRLs are always on so now the old farts have to drive with their fog lights on.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i drive a skoda




Octavia vRs of course :cool:

waraf

biko wrote: »

bikers wear high viz and high viz helmets?

Just on a side note - I was riding my bike (back when I was a biker) through Templeogue one Saturday, head to toe in a yellow high viz suit. Woman pulls out in front of me, spots me when she's halfway across the road, panics and stops right in my path. Luckily enough I managed to stop inches from smashing into the driver's door. I gave her a severe tounge lashing (including several expletives) and her excuse was......."sorry I didn't see you". F**king Neil Armstrong could see me from space with that full dayglo suit on!!! I supose the point of the story is that cars are much easier to spot than bikes so we need to give bikers any extra help we can

Fat_Fingers

I think we should all drive with light on. Exception to the rule should be taxi drivers, they should be allowed to drive with no lights , no indicators and with "cyclops" light at night.

Red Alert

I usually leave them on all the time, because that's what I was taught. Interesting thing is that on some newer cars, particularly Volvo's, the lights are on by default.

cornbb

Lights on ftw, unless its a sunny day. Its been proven to reduce traffic accidents in studies in Ireland.

dr.bollocko

cornbb wrote: »

Lights on ftw, unless its a sunny day. Its been proven to reduce traffic accidents in studies in Ireland.

I don't drive into my study but each to their own I guess.

Berty

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

i drive a skoda

What did you drive before you started wearing beige?

Eoin

I turn mine on as soon as I start the engine. In my Alfa 156 I was able to leave them on the whole time. Rather than beeping when I turned off the engine to tell me my lights were on, it just turned them off automatically so I could just leave them in the on position.

waraf wrote: »

Just on a side note - I was riding my bike (back when I was a biker) through Templeogue one Saturday, head to toe in a yellow high viz suit. Woman pulls out in front of me, spots me when she's halfway across the road, panics and stops right in my path. Luckily enough I managed to stop inches from smashing into the driver's door. I gave her a severe tounge lashing (including several expletives) and her excuse was......."sorry I didn't see you". F**king Neil Armstrong could see me from space with that full dayglo suit on!!! I supose the point of the story is that cars are much easier to spot than bikes so we need to give bikers any extra help we can

Sounds like it would have made absolutely no difference if you'd had your lights on, let alone cars having their lights on.

minxie

always have my lights on
theres some people out there that
cant see cars moving.....:D

dancingqueen

waraf wrote: »

Though it was fairly obvious but I'll reiterate if you like....

Bikes should have their lights on during the day and cars shouldn't.

This means that if a person is driving in their car they are more likely to register a headlight in their rearview mirror or in their peripheral vision as a motorcycle rather than just another car.

The reason for this is that car drivers are often unaware of motorcyclists approaching them at speed from the rear or just filtering through traffic. Motorcyclists having their light on during the day increases the chances of them being spotted earlier by car drivers.

If everyone including car drivers has their lights on then the bikers don't stand out from the crowd.

I don't think I can be any clearer. It's all about biker safety as they are the most vulnerable on the road.

Bikers do stand out in the crowd - because they zoom up your arse and bloody filter in and out and make driving way more difficult than if they just picked a space between two cars and stayed there. Does my head in

I drive a volvo so it's automatic but I've always driven with lights on before that too. Even on sunny days - especially in winter when the sun is low - it's much easier to see a car with lights on. I just don't see the point in not doing it.

edit: people still say to me, you know your lights are on, like it's the oddest thing ever!

Svalbard

waraf wrote: »

No it's safer for motorcyclists if car drivers do not drive with their lights on. You are more likely to notice a bike in your mirrors if he/she is the only one with a light on. You should know better as an ex-biker - tsk tsk....;)

Am I the only driver who could care less if its safer for motorcyclists?
Its been proven to improve road safety overall and thus means the motorist (i.e. me) is less likely to be killed. Why should I forgo that extra advantage for the sake of someone who chooses to ride a much more dangerous vehicle?

Want to be safe, biker? Drive a f**king car.

Snowie

Berty wrote: »

What did you drive before you started wearing beige?

A rover a volvo , saab, opel vectra

Xavi6

Nope not during the day, unless it's dull and raining obviously.

I drove over in Denmark a few weeks back and it's compulsory.

Tom Trojan

No lights when in stealth mode. My onboard radar and object avoidance systems steer clear of obstructions when traveling at light speed.

it's habit from doing it over winter... i've started remembering not to automaticallty switch them on now. by summer they'll never be on during the day

Mrmoe

Svalbard wrote: »

Want to be safe, biker? Drive a f**king car.

Ah yes but then where will we get our organ donors from? You can never have enough livers you know.

Mrmoe

Mrmoe wrote: »

Ah yes but then where will we get our organ donors from? You can never have enough livers you know.

tell that to George Best

tman

Do you...

...give descriptive titles to threads?
...post in the correct fora?

tman

tman wrote: »

Do you...

...give descriptive titles to threads?
...post in the correct fora?

poll or GTFO

Mr. Frost

Hazys wrote: »

I think u are required to do it in Sweden.

It should be a requirement in Ireland also. Just because its daytime doesnt mean its bright. On some really wet days, I've seen (or not seen) silver cars with no lights on, which is extremely dangerous.

And in some States in America.

I don't think it should be a requirement as it's not necessary most of the time (except winter, maybe) but, why can't people just use their bloody common sense and light up when it's lashing rain and dull?

Saw an idiot taxi driver this morning at 06:15 with no lights on!!

Mr. Frost

Mr. Frost wrote: »

I don't think it should be a requirement as it's not necessary most of the time (except winter, maybe) but, why can't people just use their bloody common sense and light up when it's lashing rain and dull?

Saw an idiot taxi driver this morning at 06:15 with no lights on!!

see there's exactly why it should be a requirement, cos then the idiots wouldn't have the choice of deciding whether it's dark or not - which clearly they are incapable of doing!

pajodublin

ive no choice, as soon as i put my key in the lights come on

Gran Hermano

I've driven with dipped lights or DRL for over 10 years., why? it's safer for me.

Eircom conducted a trial back in the 1990s and had their fleet of vans/cars
use dipped beams during the day, their accident rate across the fleet fell
by 20 odd per cent during the trial and I know they introduced it as policy
after the trial.

Aodan83

Personally, I only turn the lights when its dark, raining etc. People driving with dipped lights on during the day doesnt bother me, but at night, nothing is more irittating than a car driving towards you with dazzlingly bright lights, or full head lights on. That really gets my goat!!