Car taken for no Tax

NiSmO

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galwaytt

nope, he's goosed.

You'll have to pay backtax, current tax, towing fees and storage fees.

And you'll have to NCT it - I don't know if they'll ask you to produce it, once passed.

Expensive day out !

Oh, and no, you don't need NCT to tax it.

andrewh5

At last the gardai have grown gonads!! It is high time they started impounding cars for no tax/NCT/insurance.

brayblue24

andrewh5 wrote: »

At last the gardai have grown gonads!! It is high time they started impounding cars for no tax/NCT/insurance.

Cars have been seized for these offences ever since the legislation was passed to allow us to do so

KTRIC

Sorry to hear about your mates car, but It's about time that the Gardai did their job and impounded cars without the proper papers.

maxy jazz

thats great news. so many cars not paying road tax. about time your off the road. cops now have cameras / Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR). These get cars as they drive past. brilliant. more money for the gov coffers.

Big Wave

Great news - I don't pay €1400 in road tax each year just so other tools decide not to.

brayblue24

Big Wave wrote: »

Great news - I don't pay €1400 in road tax each year just so other tools decide not to.

OUCH!

Maybe my €600 is not so bad after all!!:)

maxy jazz

must be a 3.0 litre diesel~!! but proper order.

furtzy

Have a quick look at the cars in your local supermarket car park at least 40% will have out of date tax....some out of date by years!

maxy jazz

not to mention insurance. absolute disgrace. get your priorities right if you want to drive - else take the bus.

Big Wave

maxy jazz wrote: »

must be a 3.0 litre diesel~!! but proper order.

4.2L XKR~
Tax is a c*nt, and it went up this year... but I still have to pay it.

NiSmO

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furtzy

NiSmO wrote: »

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He didn't try very hard then. There is no requirement to have an NCT to tax his car hasn't been for years now.

maxy jazz

as far as I know, you should be able to tax a car without NCT. its not required when you tax online. NCT is backed so there is no point in avoiding it. It would not be a reason to avoid tax. Bottom line is the car should not be on the road without tax. 4 month is taking the proverbial. Sorry for your mate, but if we all took same attitude then mayhem. I have 2 cars to tax and considering taking 1 of the road till things improve.

NiSmO

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guil

now ur makin excuses for him not taxin it
ya dont need to provide proof of insurance or nct to tax the car

the quickest way for him to get it back is tax it and show the guard the statement for the back tax aswell

He can tax the car without the nct. That rule of having to have an nct to tax a car is gone for years.

On the topic of back tax, I know a friend of mine avoided paying 6 months back tax before when he was caught by chancing going to a Garda station(in a different county) the next morning after he was caught and getting the car signed off the road and then taxing it from that day on. He got away with it but his car wasnt impounded though so that made it easier.

maxy jazz

tell him to ring up and book an NCT. they send a text. thats proof that the NCT is in progress. all sorted.

NiSmO

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NiSmO

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maxy jazz

if your going to take your car of the road for a while. do you need to inform the Gardai in advance. make a statement of intent.

furtzy

guil wrote: »

now ur makin excuses for him not taxin it
ya dont need to provide proof of insurance or nct to tax the car

the quickest way for him to get it back is tax it and show the guard the statement for the back tax aswell

You need to provide your policy details when taxing online. You don't however need an NCT. This was scrapped years ago when the NCTS staff went on strike

furtzy

NiSmO wrote: »

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No he cannot collect it until all relevant docs are produced and fees paid. It has been impounded for a reason.

maxy jazz

they wont let it go without back tax. if its only 4 month he could just get it renewed for 6 month. will save him a bit of money if he is strapped for cash.

NiSmO

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Big Wave

NiSmO wrote: »

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He (or you) can go into the tax office, pay the backtax, then go to the impound lot & pay the fees. That's the only solution.

radharc05

NiSmO wrote: »

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Here Here... YOU TELL EM.
Best to ring the GARDAI and ask them if what you want to do is possible.
If you dont want to ring this particular station then ring another. They should all run with the same protocol.
Good luck with it BTW
Feckin state of the roads we drive on. We spend most of our money to repair our cars after hitting crater holes and having to repair C.V joints etc we all have feck all money left to pay TAX to use the b*********g thing in the first place....:mad:

NiSmO

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furtzy

maxy jazz wrote: »

they wont let it go without back tax. if its only 4 month he could just get it renewed for 6 month. will save him a bit of money if he is strapped for cash.

tax it for 3 months (plus the back tax of 4 months) so 7 months and get it NCTed

NiSmO

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furtzy

radharc05 wrote: »

Here Here... YOU TELL EM.
Best to ring the GARDAI and ask them if what you want to do is possible.
If you dont want to ring this particular station then ring another. They should all run with the same protocol.
Good luck with it BTW
Feckin state of the roads we drive on. We spend most of our money to repair our cars after hitting crater holes and having to repair C.V joints etc we all have feck all money left to pay TAX to use the b*********g thing in the first place....:mad:

Blame the guy that doesn't pay his way then!

radharc05

furtzy wrote: »

Blame the guy that doesn't pay his way then!

Er WHA? is this cryptic??

guil

furtzy wrote: »

You need to provide your policy details when taxing online. You don't however need an NCT. This was scrapped years ago when the NCTS staff went on strike

i thought the same but anytime i went in to tax my car i was told i didnt need the insurance details

murphym7

I know this has probably been asked before (sorry), how long does the Tax need to be out before the Guards can take the car off you?

Big Wave

radharc05 wrote: »

Feckin state of the roads we drive on. We spend most of our money to repair our cars after hitting crater holes and having to repair C.V joints etc we all have feck all money left to pay TAX to use the b*********g thing in the first place....:mad:

lol - how many CV joints have to had repaired? Bit of an exaggeration there, and a pathetic excuse for avoiding tax, but I'll humour you: maybe they'd have more money to maintain the roads if people didn't avoid paying their Road Tax in the first place!?

Big Wave

radharc05 wrote: »

Er WHA? is this cryptic??

See my post, above. I typed what he meant.

furtzy

guil wrote: »

i thought the same but anytime i went in to tax my car i was told i didnt need the insurance details

Haven't been into an actual tax office in years since it went online but you definitely have to provide it online...would have thought the same applied in the office

DonJose

radharc05 wrote: »

Feckin state of the roads we drive on. We spend most of our money to repair our cars after hitting crater holes and having to repair C.V joints etc we all have feck all money left to pay TAX

Not all of us live on Craggy Island The roads are much better condition today than they were before, I drove 800kms at the weekend without complaint.

maxy jazz

not to mention blown tyres and steering alignment.

andrewh5

murphym7 wrote: »

I know this has probably been asked before (sorry), how long does the Tax need to be out before the Guards can take the car off you?

If it is the same as the UK then 1 day. If it isn't taxed you have no right to have it on the road end of.

Henry Ford III

If you can't afford to maintain a car properly the question needs to be asked should you be driving that car at all?

radharc05

Big Wave wrote: »

lol - how many CV joints have to had repaired? Bit of an exaggeration there, and a pathetic excuse for avoiding tax, but I'll humour you: maybe they'd have more money to maintain the roads if people didn't avoid paying their Road Tax in the first place!?

Let me humor you back then
2 CV joints. One left one right..
One went within a month of the other.
So there
And my tax IS up to date.
And twaddle about if tax was paid roads would be in a much better state.
Where did all the money go to mend the roads in the first place during the celtic tiger? It was'nt spent on improving the roads.
Pillocks driving around from the County Council shovelling tar into a hole and patting down with a shovel. Is that what I pay car up to date car tax for? Humor me and get lost.

radharc05

DonJose wrote: »

Not all of us live on Craggy Island The roads are much better condition today than they were before, I drove 800kms at the weekend without complaint.

well goody for you then. :P
My C.V joints did'nt go because the roads are smooth as a babies arse did they?

maxy jazz

some of the national roads are a disgrace. but as BIFFO says we better get used to a reduced standard of living. the fat b_______d that he is. pity some of the ministers dont get to suffer the roads.

furtzy

radharc05 wrote: »

And twaddle about if tax was paid roads would be in a much better state.
Where did all the money go to mend the roads in the first place during the celtic tiger? It was'nt spent on improving the roads.
Pillocks driving around from the County Council shovelling tar into a hole and patting down with a shovel. Is that what I pay car up to date car tax for? Humor me and get lost.

You joking? The roads are infinitely better than they were pre-Celtic Tiger. Did you not drive in the 80's early 90's?

testicle

NiSmO wrote: »

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If it mentions NCT, then you have an old form. The current one mentions Certificate of Roadworthiness, which is for commercial vehikles.

Big Wave

radharc05 wrote: »

Let me humor you back then
2 CV joints. One left one right..
One went within a month of the other.
So there

I see - so your CV joints went once? Wow - that's an epidemic. And it's not counted as 2 separate times, as they both received the same wear & tear & were on the same car. But you talk as if you're spending so much money repairing your car due to bad roads, that you can barely afford your road tax - gross exaggeration.
I agree that the roads could be better, but they have improved 10x in the last 20 years.

radharc05

Big Wave wrote: »

I see - so your CV joints went once? Wow - that's an epidemic. And it's not counted as 2 separate times, as they both received the same wear & tear & were on the same car.
I agree that the roads could be better, but they have improved 10x in the last 20 years.

I'll think you'll find that CV joints dont ware at the same time in cars.
If thats the case i would need to be hitting pot holes at exactly the same time on both sides of the car! would you listen to yourself ya pillock.
Not to mention damage to shocks and suspension.. (in case you are in doubt as to how these are affected, they also get damaged when you hit crater potholes cleverly disguised in a pool of water on the side of roads)

But you talk as if you're spending so much money repairing your car due to bad roads, that you can barely afford your road tax - gross exaggeration.

I never said that I could'nt afford to pay for the tax on my car, or that I can BARELY afford the tax. Dont put words into my mouth. What I said was that I happen to find it obscene to have to fork out EVEN MORE MONEY on repairs to my car when I pay exhorbitant fees in road tax for the upkeep of so called roads.

Alun

radharc05 wrote: »

... when I pay exhorbitant fees in road tax for the upkeep of so called roads.

As has been pointed out a gazillion times before here, you don't pay road tax, you pay motor tax, and even if it were called road tax (which it isn't) it isn't ring fenced for road building or maintenance anyway.

radharc05

furtzy wrote: »

You joking? The roads are infinitely better than they were pre-Celtic Tiger. Did you not drive in the 80's early 90's?

No, Not joking at all.
How ever much better they are THEY NEED A LOT MORE WORK.

I've lost count of the amount of times when I and my neighbours have had to call the saddos in the county council to fill the craters around here. If you want proof of them I'll take photos and them on here for all the doubting thomases..:D