2 Dead several others shot outside Army base Antrim

lostexpectation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7930837.stm

Soldiers in County Antrim have come under fire during a gun attack at an Army base.

Unconfirmed reports said one person was feared dead and five others wounded, but it is not clear if they were civilians or military personnel.

Shots were fired at the Massereene Army base in Antrim, 16 miles north of Belfast, at 2140 GMT.

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Defence described the shooting as a "drive-by" attack.

cornbb

Urgh. Was listening to an interview with Hugh Orde yesterday where he said they were expecting a surge in activity from dissident republicans. I hope we're just seeing the actions of a lone nutter and not a return to the bad ole days

whoopdefukindo

Thanks. I missed the news about 5 mins ago.

hot topic for AH

Biggins

In the last few days there has been words mentioned in the media elsewhere that dissident republicans were still out there and still a danger.


Far as I'm concerned they, the dissident's can sod off!
99.9% of this country - the whole country has moved on and ONLY wants peace.
Sod off you utter murdering scum.

I apologise to the forum for the strong sentiment - it's something I feel strongly about.

javaboy

And what have you got to say on the subject OP?

whoopdefukindo

javaboy wrote: »

And what have you got to say on the subject OP?

Who cares?

Mr Magnolia

It's amazing how relatively quickly I'd grown accustomed to not seeing breaking news stories represented by your thread title OP. Hopefully it's not a sign of things to come, I don't ever want to become desensitized by stories such as this again.

whoopdefukindo

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England.

On breaking news.ie

here we go again

Latchy

News items yesterday as has being mentioned hinted as such so it seems the security forces were expecting this .But ,totally unrelated to the news items , it might just be a lone nut's hoping to stir some **** up .

Mr Magnolia

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England.

On breaking news.ie

here we go again

Can't find it. Link?

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

In the last few days there has been words mentioned in the media elsewhere that dissident republicans were still out there and still a danger.


Far as I'm concerned they, the dissident's can sod off!
99.9% of this country - the whole country has moved on and ONLY wants peace.
Sod off ya scum.

I apologise to the forum for the strong sentiment - it's something I feel strongly about.

there will always be dissidents, no matter what. They dont have much support though

whoopdefukindo

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England.

On breaking news.ie

here we go again

kowloon

Does anyone here remember how the news stories a few years back had devolved into formula.

[A man or X amount of Men] were [killed wounded or a combination] in [location in the North] [Loyalist/Republican group or nobody] has claimed responsibility.

whoopdefukindo

Reuters Live. for links

Mr Magnolia

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

Reuters Live. for links

piss poor

ejmaztec

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

Reuters Live. for links

Don't lose your stick in the septic tank...:rolleyes:

javaboy

whoopdefukindo don't post in this thread again or I'll ban you.

stovelid

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England.

On breaking news.ie

here we go again

How can you still see breaking news from 1996?



edit:: posted simultaneously with JBs post, sorry.

whoopdefukindo

whoopdefukindo wrote: »

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England.

On breaking news.ie

here we go again

If you are gonna post something like this post a proper link.

Otherwise its bo11ocks

Latchy

IRA have taken back their cease fire and will continue their war with England

Might make a tabloid headline but somehow I cant see the peoples of both islands wanting to go back down that road ,not if they can help it.

mike65

Fuppwits.

lostexpectation

Jeffrey Donadlson saying that the gunmen used the disguise of Pizza delivery men to enter the reception area of Mazareen Barracks. -news24, ht slugger

reports of more deaths(4) including civlian

Gillo

It's on Skynews nothing on breakingnews.ie or irishtimes.ie

Praying it's not a start to stupid inbred cu^t's wrecking the peace process.

Mr Magnolia

BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7930837.stm

mike65

You should read the retards on P.ie (total fuppwits most of them)

Gillo

mike65 wrote: »

You should read the retards on P.ie (total fuppwits most of them)

p.ie ???

stovelid

provo.ie politics.ie, I think

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

You should read the retards on P.ie (total fuppwits most of them)

who ate all the P.ie's?

lostexpectation

http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/37763
There can be no place for British Forces in accountable, civic policing; there is no place for them in Ireland - Adams


perhaps they should be removed to avoid giving people targets

brendanuk

why no pictures?? where are camera crews

Biggins

brendanuk wrote: »

why no pictures?? where are camera crews

Constant coverage on sky news now for those with satellite.

If this is starting up again, you will find me - and I mean this - standing in O'Connell street holding up a sign telling the utter scumbags to drop dead and die!

My deepest sympathy to the families of those that have lost a loved one tonight and get well wishes to those injured.

whoopdefukindo

javaboy wrote: »

whoopdefukindo don't post in this thread again or I'll ban you.

Considering you have no real linear thoughts you just go and do that, but know it makes no difference Sorry you didn't have time to answer my PM's and thought it better to close shop

Easier that way

Defend the p.ie same!


:pac:

GhostInTheRuins

mike65 wrote: »

You should read the retards on P.ie (total fuppwits most of them)

What sort of stuff are they saying? (I can't open any threads over there, just DB errors)

lostexpectation

lostexpectation wrote: »

http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/37763
There can be no place for British Forces in accountable, civic policing; there is no place for them in Ireland - Adams


perhaps they should be removed to avoid giving people targets

that was said before the shooting. He was proven right

arybvtcw0eolkf

Gillo wrote: »

It's on Skynews nothing on breakingnews.ie or irishtimes.ie

Praying it's not a start to stupid inbred cu^t's wrecking the peace process.

By putting special forces or the ground in N.I. ?.

While I utterly condemn the murder of anyone, and as a soldier myself I mourne the loss of a fellow soldier (even in a foreign army) but putting a special recce regt back on the ground in N.I. was always going to be a stupid, dangerous and ultimately costly move.

Like almost every one else on this forum I dread a return to 'the troubles', but I wonder have the British Establishment mis-read the Irish question again!.

.

javaboy

whoopdefukindo banned.

lostexpectation

the surprising thing was that they got away

Biggins

You can bet your backside that cross-border co-operation between legal law forces will be at it's highest now till these murdering scumbags are found, caught and tried.
...AND RIGHTLY SO!

sdanseo

Tenner says they drove straight for the border.

Bastards - that said, it could be said that Hugh Orde kind of pre-empted something by saying "the threat is at its highest", perhaps?

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

You can bet your backside that cross-border co-operation between legal law forces will be at it's highest now till these murdering scumbags are found, caught and tried.
...AND RIGHTLY SO!

They will be caught easily Id imagine.

The problem is, are there many more willing to commit similar acts?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Biggins wrote: »

You can bet your backside that cross-border co-operation between legal law forces will be at it's highest now till these murdering scumbags are found, caught and tried.
...AND RIGHTLY SO!

By who, the BRITISH? .. :eek:

Like their justice system has been a shining example to us all!.

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RoundyMooney

We really are back in the Eighties in so many respects, aren't we?

I can't, thankfully, see trouble breaking out in any meaningful way up there again. As an aside, thanks to some enterprising republican bigot on Youtube, I watched one G. Adams masterfully fend off an attempted attack by Uncle Gaybo and a group of movers and shakers of the time that are now all dead or as good as. I remember watching it at the time from an anti Sinn Fein perspective-I'm pretty much the same on that score these days, and thought it, then and now, was an attempted ambush, and did more to aid the Sinn Fein party than hinder it.

At the time, 15 years ago, the media censorship on republicans had just been removed, and the ceasefire was two months old. People were just discovering what Gerry Adams sounded like.

A few things stick in my mind. Catholics/republicans/whatever, had no faith whatsoever in the RUC. There was something like a million guns up there, both legally and illegally held. Punishment beatings were rife, as factions felt they had to act as defacto police, or were just thick enough to go along with others. The tactics of what we now deem extremists, while not populist, had a great deal of support among the populace who suffered most. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world (half) blind.

Anyway, go back further again. The whole thing kicked off in the first place over inequality. Catholics had no vote in local elections.

We are not starting from such an unequal perspective today.

Armin_Tamzarian

Well, there goes any need for Hugh Orde to come up with excuses for
re-deploying Special Forces in the North.

RoundyMooney

Mairt wrote: »

By who, the BRITISH? .. :eek:

Like their justice system has been a shining example to us all!.

Maybe not, but we have nothing to be proud of either.

Dudess

Biggins wrote: »

Far as I'm concerned they, the dissident's can sod off!
99.9% of this country - the whole country has moved on and ONLY wants peace.
Sod off you utter murdering scum.

:eek: West Brit traitor!!!

I love the phrase "punishment beating"... as opposed to "reward beating".

CSC

Really shocking watching the Sky News. I was under the impression though that all British soldiers had left NI.

gurramok

lostexpectation wrote: »

the surprising thing was that they got away

And it happened in a majority Unionist town. I would of thought something like this would have had happened in a republican area like most attacks by them in the past.

Just hope so called Loyalists don't respond to this and it all start a tit-for-tat war, no-one up there supports any so called 'paramilitaries' anymore, they want peace.

Armin_Tamzarian

Dudess wrote: »

:eek: West Brit traitor!!!

I love the phrase "punishment beating"... as opposed to "reward beating".

We prefer to think of it as an 'attitude adjustment' thank you very much...

RoundyMooney

Dudess wrote: »

I love the phrase "punishment beating"... as opposed to "reward beating".

I thought that was our little secret.

By the way, "more" is not a good safety word

arybvtcw0eolkf

RoundyMooney wrote: »

We really are back in the Eighties in so many respects, aren't we?

I can't, thankfully, see trouble breaking out in any meaningful way up there again. As an aside, thanks to some enterprising republican bigot on Youtube, I watched one G. Adams masterfully fend off an attempted attack by Uncle Gaybo and a group of movers and shakers of the time that are now all dead or as good as.

At the time, 15 years ago, the media censorship on republicans had just been removed, and the ceasefire was two months old. People were just discovering what Gerry Adams sounded like.

A few things stick in my mind. Catholics/republicans/whatever, had no faith whatsoever in the RUC. There was something like a million guns up there, both legally and illegaly held. Punishment beatings were rife, as factions felt they had to act as defacto police, or were just thick enough to go along with others. The tactics of what we now deem extremists, while not populist, had a great deal of support among the populace who suffered most. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world (half) blind.

Anyway, go back further again. The whole thing kicked off in the first place over inequality. Catholics had no vote in local elections.

We are not starting from such an unequal perspective today.

But at the heart of the matter there's still an occupation of the six counties, like it or lump it - brush over it all you like, but scratch the surface and thats what you'll find.

And although the people of the south voted away our constitutional claim on the six counties, it was a luxury not afforded to the nationalist population up there.

I'd truely hate to see violence returned to the streets and country side of N.I. but you can bet your life there are people on both sides choming on the bit to get going again, because the cause is still there.

.