Hmm, was the contamination accidental?

Veni Vedi Vici

What do you all make of this article? I'm not very familiar with the story but it has caught my attention...

Czech newspapers are questioning if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.
The claim holds weight because, according to the very laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.
“The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses,” reports the Canadian Press.
Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 - otherwise known as the human form of avian flu, one of the most deadly biological weapons on earth with a 60% kill rate - were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany, and Slovenia.
Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking “trade secrets” and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident. This was seemingly an attempt to quickly change the story and hide the fact that the accidental contamination of a vaccine with a deadly biological agent like avian flu is virtually impossible and the only way it could have happened was by wilful gross criminal negligence.

According to a compiled translation from Czech newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.

“Was this just a criminal negligence or it was an attempt to provoke pandemia using vaccination against flu to spread the disease - as happened with the anti-B hepatitis vaccination with vaccines containing the HIV virus in US? - and then cash for the vaccines against H5N1 which Baxter develops? How could on Earth a virus as H5N1 come to the ordinary flu vaccines? Don’t they follow even basic precautions in the american pharma companies?” states the translation.

The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread, the effect is a potent, super-airbone, super deadly biological weapon.

As the Canadian Press article explains, “While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.”
There can be little doubt therefore that this was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.
The Canadian Press article states, “That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created,” but then claims that there is no evidence that this is what Baxter were doing, despite there being no clear explanation as to why Baxter has samples of the live avian flu virus on its premises in the first place.
However, to reiterate, the key aspect of this story is that it is virtually impossible for live avian flu virus to find its way into a vaccine by “accident”.
As health expert Mike Adams points out, “The shocking answer is that this couldn’t have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.”
As explained on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf…):

“Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features.”

Under the BSL3 code of conduct, it is impossible for live avian flu viruses to contaminate production vaccine materials that are shipped out to vendors around the world.
This leaves only two possibilities that explain these events:
Possibility #1: Baxter isn’t following BSL3 safety guidelines or is so sloppy in following them that it can make monumental mistakes that threaten the safety of the entire human race. And if that’s the case, then why are we injecting our children with vaccines made from Baxter’s materials?
Possibility #2: A rogue employee (or an evil plot from the top management) is present at Baxter, whereby live avian flu viruses were intentionally placed into the vaccine materials in the hope that such materials might be injected into humans and set off a global bird flu pandemic.

Spreading bird flu would create an instantaneous surge of demand for bird flu vaccines. The profits that vaccine companies such as Baxter International could reap out of such a panic are astronomical.
In addition, as we have previously reported, those that have a stake in the Tamiflu vaccine include top globalists and BIlderberg members like George Shultz, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink and former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
Authorities in both Europe and the U.S. have openly detailed plans for martial law, quarantine and internment should a bird flu pandemic occur.
The other motivation, as we have exhaustively documented on this website for years, is the fact that elites throughout history have openly stated that they want to see a world population reduction of around 80 per cent. Shocking stories like this take the plausibility of that narrative out of the realms of conspiracy theory and into the dangerous reality of conspiracy fact.
“Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, “Oops?”, Adams concludes.
This is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses.
In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States.

jonbravo

ok you got me hook, id like to know more about this!?:eek:

Kama

Hadn't heard this, thanks for the heads-up, can't see an innocent reading of this...

Also like to say finding stuff like this is a lot of why I read CT...

Penn

very interesting read. Vaccine company "accidently" release virus. Vaccine company then sells cure. Be interesting to see what happens next

jonbravo

Kama wrote: »

Hadn't heard this, thanks for the heads-up, can't see an innocent reading of this...

Also like to say finding stuff like this is a lot of why I read CT...

thats all this is for now is a good story until some research is done into it, sometimes reporters jump off the cliff in terms of putting across they story .. dont know if its a CT because if its true, something will be done i am sure!! but say nottin til ya hear more:rolleyes:

humanji

They kind of hint at and then completely gloss over (in order to blame the NWO, but it's Inforwars after all ), the possibility of one worker doing it. It could be a case of a disgruntled employee out for revenge. I'm curious to see what comes of this over the next few weeks.

Also, is anyone wondering why it seems only the Canadian press is covering this? I did a quick google, and other than conspiracy sites, it's only Canadian papers that have it. I'd of thought everyone (especially the UK tabloids) would be all over this.

nyarlothothep

Terrifying scenario I'll grant. Grave news and ill portent indeed. I really don't understand people who do this. Its sickening, they're not human.

humanji

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Terrifying scenario I'll grant. Grave news and ill portent indeed. I really don't understand people who do this. Its sickening, they're not human.

And some people thought Mengele was a once off.

the_syco

So, apart from the Canadian Sun (sounds like a tabloid), and every conspiracy site on the internet, there has been nothing about this?

Looked through http://www.who.int but couldn't find anything about it?

That's one thing about conspiracies: the less information there is, the more people will believe in it

humanji

I found a more reliable source of news: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I

To be honest, it sounds less and less like a conspiracy. The samples weren't being sent off to be used on people, they were being sent off to labs for further research. If they wanted to create a pandemic, they could just infect a rail station or airport and nobody would ever know. Unless this was just a distraction... <_< >_>

the_syco

humanji wrote: »

I found a more reliable source of news: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I

To be honest, it sounds less and less like a conspiracy. The samples weren't being sent off to be used on people, they were being sent off to labs for further research. If they wanted to create a pandemic, they could just infect a rail station or airport and nobody would ever know. Unless this was just a distraction... <_< >_>

Makes sense, esp as Baxter was given a contract to do so in 2006 by the Austrian government...

Sofa_King Good

an (un) interesting point on Baxter is that they can be linked to Bush Cheney through Scooter Libby

& The Rothschillds

King Mob

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

an (un) interesting point on Baxter is that they can be linked to Bush Cheney through Scooter Libby

& The Rothschillds

Is there anything backing this up at all?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Is there anything backing this up at all?

Nickles Group are A Baxter Lobby Firm.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Baxter+International&id=Y00000323810&year=2008

Their founder and CEO is former Senator Donald Nickles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Nickles#Senate_leader

"If jail time is issued, I would hope the president would issue a pardon," said former Sen. Don Nickles, R-Okla., a member of Libby's legal defense fund.

And if you need proof that Libby was Cheney's Chief-of_Staff or that his sentence was commutted by Pres Bush, just ask.

One big happy NWO family. What might be worth looking further into is the Chairman of the Libby defence fund Sembler, now deceased.

He was the founder Straight, a drug rehabilitation centre for adolocents (man I can't remember how to spell anymore). Anyways, there were allegations made against the group of mind conditioning and brainwashing.

uncle_sam_ie

This was only caught due to the Quality Control of the sub-contractor. So Why did the QC of the supplier or Baxter not catch it? Mixing a human flu and H5N1 in a human host is likely the only way that a human to human transmissible bird flu could be created, so this ‘mistake’ could have cost billions of lives! This is major news, why is it not being reported?

uncle_sam_ie

humanji wrote: »

I found a more reliable source of news: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I

To be honest, it sounds less and less like a conspiracy. The samples weren't being sent off to be used on people, they were being sent off to labs for further research. If they wanted to create a pandemic, they could just infect a rail station or airport and nobody would ever know. Unless this was just a distraction... <_< >_>

I don't believe this was a screwup. These guys operate at Bio Safety Level (BSL) 3 Plus.. Which is in between BSL 3 and 4, with 4 being the highest level of safety required. BSL 3 is for dangers like SARS and Anthrax and BSL 4 is for the infamous Ebola Virus and Lassa Fever.. The influenza virus is dealt with at BSL 2, how on earth did they accidentally take not just one but TWO BSL 3 Plus LIVE VIRUS's, both separately stored and clearly marked out of the secure holding that it would be in, in a BSL 3 Plus lab and put it in a BSL 2 lab not knowing what it was and mix it with a vaccine?

King Mob

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Nickles Group are A Baxter Lobby Firm.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Baxter+International&id=Y00000323810&year=2008

Their founder and CEO is former Senator Donald Nickles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Nickles#Senate_leader

And if you need proof that Libby was Cheney's Chief-of_Staff or that his sentence was commutted by Pres Bush, just ask.

One big happy NWO family. What might be worth looking further into is the Chairman of the Libby defence fund Sembler, now deceased.

That's it? The CEO of a group linked to the company knows Scooter Libby? Ok then even if this wasn't a fairly weak link. Have you anything to suggest that anything unseemly is going on due to this link?
And how about this link to the Rothchilds?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

He was the founder Straight, a drug rehabilitation centre for adolocents (man I can't remember how to spell anymore). Anyways, there were allegations made against the group of mind conditioning and brainwashing.

And allegations are made against Bush that he is in fact a reptile.
Seriously you need to back up claims like this.

6th

Folks can we keep this on topic? Please.

Veni Vedi Vici

6th wrote: »

Folks can we keep this on topic? Please.

That depends really. If SKG can clearly back himself up then we've never really left the topic at hand.

humanji

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

This was only caught due to the Quality Control of the sub-contractor. So Why did the QC of the supplier or Baxter not catch it? Mixing a human flu and H5N1 in a human host is likely the only way that a human to human transmissible bird flu could be created, so this ‘mistake’ could have cost billions of lives! This is major news, why is it not being reported?

It wasn't caught because of quality control. It was sent to another lab for more testing and it was tested on an animal that died. Upon investigating it, it was discovered that the samples had been cross contaminated.

How can Baxter benefit from sending a contaminated batch to a lab where they know 100% that the sample would be tested before it was ever going to have a hope of going near a human subject? It just doesn't make sense.

There are safety features in all sorts of industries and human error causes them to fail all the time. The lab workers could of been overworked and tired. The one responsible for labelling samples could of been staring at another lab workers breasts instead of paying attention. There's a whole host of factors we're not privy to. You'll find that the different samples could quite easily be stored in the same fridge to cut costs for all we know, and not in completely seperate laboratories.

Veni Vedi Vici

Goddamit :mad:

When I search for this (even using Google advanced search) I end up primarily with sites that revolve around conspiracy, 911, satanism etc.

Here's what BBC returns:
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?tab=all&q=baxter+contaminated+vaccine

Nothing shows up on CNN:
http://search.cnn.com/search?query=baxter+contaminate+vaccine&type=news&sortBy=date&intl=false

RTE is the same:
http://www.rte.ie/search.html?query=baxter%20contaminated%20vaccine

uncle_sam_ie

humanji wrote: »

It wasn't caught because of quality control. It was sent to another lab for more testing and it was tested on an animal that died. Upon investigating it, it was discovered that the samples had been cross contaminated.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iV_RT6oBK3tOhtsWf5pnu5OIby9w "The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn't die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses."

Flu vaccines were found to contain two different type of Avian bird flu, not only were they bird flu but they were LIVE..

How does that happen by accident? You can't even get anywhere near that stuff even in a lab.. It's not possible at all to make such a monumental screw up.. If anyone understands the way a lab that handles this type of disease works you'll know that.

Anyway, regardless of what I or you think, this "screw up" could have killed millions of people around the world. It's major news. Why is it not being reported?

SolarFlash

Only for Alex Jones I wouldn't have heard anything about this. Whats worse is that there was almost zero attempt to cover it up. Baxter just sent the contaminated virus with specific instructions not to radiate it i.e. sterilise the vaccine prior to immunisation. A blatant attempt to start a pandemic.

6th

SolarFlash wrote: »

[Baxter just sent the contaminated virus with specific instructions not to radiate it i.e. sterilise the vaccine prior to immunisation. A blatant attempt to start a pandemic.[/LEFT]

Can you provide some backup for this?

SolarFlash

I'm going by what I heard on the Alex Jones show, he said that they were instructed not to radiate it and he has far more info then I have access too.

If the vaccine had been radiated it would not have killed the ferrets, all vaccines are supposed to be radiated. Therefore Baxter didn't radiate this vaccine because they didn't want to kill the live bird flu.

Veni Vedi Vici

SolarFlash wrote: »

I'm going by what I heard on the Alex Jones show, he said that they were instructed not to radiate it and he has far more info then I have access too.

If the vaccine had been radiated it would not have killed the ferrets, all vaccines are supposed to be radiated. Therefore Baxter didn't radiate this vaccine because they didn't want to kill the live bird flu.

Does Alex Jones mention his sources throughout the broadcast?

uncle_sam_ie

6th wrote: »

Can you provide some backup for this?

Here are the Czech news reports(use google to translate it).See what you can find, I'll have a read of it tomorrow when I get time.
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/kontaminovana-vakcina-se-testovala-nejen-v-cr/363674
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/rakouska-ptaci-chripka-sla-do-ceska-i-nemecka-fmn-/domaci.asp?c=A090303_214331_domaci_abr
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/unik-viru-je-obchodni-tajemstvi-odmita-firma-komentovat-unik-smrtelne-vakciny-19i-/domaci.asp?c=A090217_224441_domaci_anv

6th

SolarFlash wrote: »

I'm going by what I heard on the Alex Jones show, he said that they were instructed not to radiate it and he has far more info then I have access too.

If the vaccine had been radiated it would not have killed the ferrets, all vaccines are supposed to be radiated. Therefore Baxter didn't radiate this vaccine because they didn't want to kill the live bird flu.

So all it takes is 1 mans word to convince you of something?

SolarFlash

He said that Baxter sent specific instructions not to radiate the vaccine, I cant find anything to confirm that. I don't remember him mentioning the document that says that. So either Jones is lying or he meant that Baxter didn't radiate the vaccine before they sent it to the other laboratories which a level 3 lab is supposed to do.

Its very suspicious that lab that discovered the contamination didn't radiate the vaccine before they gave it to the ferrets. They must have presumed it had been radiated as would be standard practice in virology.

Veni Vedi Vici

I'm not necessarily disputing your information. I'm just hard pressed to find any amount of sources outside of conspiracy sites.

uncle_sam_ie

Veni Vedi Vici wrote: »

I'm not necessarily disputing your information. I'm just hard pressed to find any amount of sources outside of conspiracy sites.

I'm getting better search results by not using google. Here is one http://www.scribd.com/doc/12966363/Vaccines-as-Biological-Weapons-2009
this too
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/02/baxter_bird_flu_botch.php