Wolverine: Origins. New trailer

Cunning Alias

Just watched this:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/movie-trailers/347877/x-men-origins-wolverine.jhtml#id=1606349
--SD trailer wont play outside of the US but if you select the 720p option in the bottom right it works fine.

Now I havn't been getting my hopes up too high about this but now im just confused.
Was Cyclops always gonna be in this??? And why is he a teenager? I thought this was gonna fit in with the other x-men films, at least in a vague kinda way.

the clue is in the name

senordingdong

Much like the new Terminator trailer, I'm going to have to reserve judgment on this one.

A flashy trailer rarely amounts to anything. Especially when the films premise isn't too hot.

Asmodean

Now I havn't been getting my hopes up too high about this but now im just confused.
Was Cyclops always gonna be in this??? And why is he a teenager? I thought this was gonna fit in with the other x-men films, at least in a vague kinda way.

This is an origins film, a prequel, just like batman begins. It's set before the X-men during the days of weapon x (sabretooth, deadpool etc). It does fit with the x-men movies because it will show the members of the team when they were younger.

stanlee

Wolverine ages very slowly which is why cyclops is a teenager. There was also a scene shot with Storm but that has been cut out.

shenanigans1982

stanlee wrote: »

Wolverine ages very slowly which is why cyclops is a teenager. There was also a scene shot with Storm but that has been cut out.

Storm was in the trailer I seen before Watchmen but was a kid in it. Ryan Reynolds playing Deadpool is reason enough to keep away from this movie.

Brimmy

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Ryan Reynolds playing Deadpool is reason enough to keep away from this movie.

Or every single reason to go see this... it's perfect casting. Unless you don't know who Deadpool is and just hate Ryan Reynolds

2040

Yeah, i love deadpool but hate ryan reynolds, but it is perfect casting.

JohnK

Didnt Wolverine get those extendable blades added by the military? So how did he have them as a kid at the start of the trailer? And how can they have him meeting all the future xmen which he'll meet in the other movies, surely one of them would have remembered meeting him in the past?

Draupnir

I dont think the trailer shows Wolverine meeting Cyclops, instead it shows Sabretooth trying to capture/attack Cyclops. So its entirely plausible we will see a couple of stories side by side to try and tie it into the existing X-Men Franchise.

I don't like the bone claws on the young Wolverine, I've never heard of that before. Although my X-Men knowledge is 90's cartoon and Franchise movie based.

2040

i'm fairly sure he did have the bone claws before the adamantium alright.

Kiith

Originally they were supposed to have been added by Weapon X, but later comics showed that he had the bone claws from childhood.

johnny_ultimate

JohnK wrote: »

Didnt Wolverine get those extendable blades added by the military? So how did he have them as a kid at the start of the trailer? And how can they have him meeting all the future xmen which he'll meet in the other movies, surely one of them would have remembered meeting him in the past?

Probably the same reason why Obi Wan doesn't remember R2D2 and C3P0.

What is that reason? Don't know. Something to do with money and/or lazy writers choosing to be selective when it comes to continuity I'm guessing.

Personally can't say I'm a big fan of prequels though. Since you already know how things will turn out, there has to be a sharp script to make anything interesting out of the story. Will see how this turns out, but after the disaster that was The Last Stand can't say I'm particularly optimistic.

exiot

Wasn't too keen on the X-Men movies, this looks different but I don't think it will deliver. Just going to have to wait and watch like everyone here, so they are going to continue on with "Origins" for the next few years?

stanlee

He had the metal grafted on to his entire skeleton including the blone claws he had since childhood.

JohnK

Interesting. I'd never heard of those bone claws before; I'd always just thought his ability was healing and that he'd just been enhanced by the military to take advantage of that.

Kur4mA

Yup, he did have the bone claws as a child and he also had them when Magneto ripped the adamantium from his bones and almost killed him.

PirateShampoo

JohnK wrote: »

Interesting. I'd never heard of those bone claws before; I'd always just thought his ability was healing and that he'd just been enhanced by the military to take advantage of that.

It all depened on the writer, but its the excepted explination now that he had Bone claws.

You find it out in the comics when magneto rips the adimantion off his bones after wolverine tries to gut him.

speedboatchase

Oh dear, possible 200m budget, Fox's summer tentpole and leaked a month before release :eek: Unprecedented. Apparently its a bit rubbish and has the fanboys angered, the exact people who would've blindly gone to see it opening weekend. Hmm, wonder how much this will effect its word of mouth pre-release and the opening weekend, and also who leaked it? More details here:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Pirated-Copies-Of-Wolverine-Leaked-Online-Early-12589.html

NunianVonFuch

speedboatchase wrote: »

Oh dear, possible 200m budget, Fox's summer tentpole and leaked a month before release :eek: Unprecedented. Apparently its a bit rubbish and has the fanboys angered, the exact people who would've blindly gone to see it opening weekend. Hmm, wonder how much this will effect its word of mouth pre-release and the opening weekend, and also who leaked it? More details here:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Pirated-Copies-Of-Wolverine-Leaked-Online-Early-12589.html

Ah it's all a bunch of hooey. It's the workprint so all the effects are unfinished, wires are still visible, CGI still has greenscreen, the score is the Transformers score, etc. I'd say it's only worth watching to try and get a handle on the quality of the completed film. I watched a 1 minute sample online of some fight scene involving (Spoiler? I doubt it) Wolverine, Sabretooth and some other virtual dude so can't really judge the full film from that.

The interesting bit is who leaked it though, as it's DVD quality so has to be someone directly involved in production imo.

Tusky

I think this looks really terrible. Daredevil mark II.

Not The Real Scarecrow

saw an advanced print oflast night.All the effects weren't finished but from what I saw it looks better than what I thought it would be.Its no Dark Knight but its one of the stronger Marvel flics to come out, very dark in places and definately not light hearted like Iron Man, the trailer actually does a great injustice to the actual film.

D-Generate

Tusky wrote: »

I think this looks really terrible. Daredevil mark II.

So you mean they are going to release a cut of the movie to the cinema that is a piece of **** but the directors cut is the best Marvel movie to be released?

niceguyjoe

was so dissapointing saw it last night .


could of been a great film. 6/10

Galvasean

I remember the 90s cartoon clearly stated numerous times that Wolverine's claws were added for the Weapon X project. As far as I'm aware this was the way in the comics beforehand too. The 'he always had claws made of bone' angle was introduced later as a retcon.

"There aint nothin' mutant about these!"

hotspur147

watched the leaked print last night and i'm not impressed.too many characters to deal with.mutants like beak,wraith,the blob,emma frost,cyclops,agent zero,deadpool and gambit are given five minutes of screen time to showcase their abilities and are either killed off or just dissappear completly.average plot,average effects,another average "marvel" movie.

SeantheMan

NunianVonFuch wrote: »

Ah it's all a bunch of hooey. It's the workprint so all the effects are unfinished, wires are still visible, CGI still has greenscreen, the score is the Transformers score, etc. I'd say it's only worth watching to try and get a handle on the quality of the completed film. I watched a 1 minute sample online of some fight scene involving (Spoiler? I doubt it) Wolverine, Sabretooth and some other virtual dude so can't really judge the full film from that.

The interesting bit is who leaked it though, as it's DVD quality so has to be someone directly involved in production imo.

All the above is true,

I've watched the first 20 mins and have decided to stop.
As mentioned it is not what the final soundtrack will be, nor are the effects finished.

You can clearly see a lot of CGI work needing to be done, there are also scenes when wolverines claws are there...then in a different angle they are not.
In some of the acrobatic stunt scenes, the wires for jumping are still blatantly visible.
The soundtrack in the first 20 mins has been comprised of the Transformers score ( Steve Jablonsky) and The Rock (Hanz Zimmer) , but in the titles Harry Gregson Williams is credited with the music.

I'll wait for the official release

Aside from that...the movie was excellent and enjoyable up to the 20min mark, especially liked Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool !:eek:

missingtime

Awww, I thought Gambit would get more time. I didn't realise there was so many extra heroes added in...bad decision.

This movie or no movie for that matter should be watched in a CAM or not fully completed.For me anyway, it really affects my enjoyment of the movie.

SeantheMan

The version that is released / leaked is not a cam.

It is the quality of a DVD-Screener :eek: ...someone within production will be getting their ass kicked. I don't know HOW this got released

Kimbot

Galvasean wrote: »

I remember the 90s cartoon clearly stated numerous times that Wolverine's claws were added for the Weapon X project. As far as I'm aware this was the way in the comics beforehand too. The 'he always had claws made of bone' angle was introduced later as a retcon.

"There aint nothin' mutant about these!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(comics)

Wolverine is a mutant, possessing animal-keen senses, enhanced physical capabilities, retracting bone claws, and a healing factor that allows him to quickly recover from virtually any wound, disease or toxin, enabling him to live beyond a normal human lifespan. This healing ability enabled the supersoldier program Weapon X to bond the near indestructible metal alloy adamantium to his skeleton and claws.

shenanigans1982

Galvasean wrote: »

I remember the 90s cartoon clearly stated numerous times that Wolverine's claws were added for the Weapon X project. As far as I'm aware this was the way in the comics beforehand too. The 'he always had claws made of bone' angle was introduced later as a retcon.

"There aint nothin' mutant about these!"

Yeah thats the way it was. After Magneto tore the Adamantium from his bones he reverted to an animal like state and realised he had bone claws which he forgot ever having due to his memory loss and false memories.

In reality I think Marvel realised taking away the claws took away from the character and needed a quick way to rectify it.

Brimmy

All of you commenting that the movie is rubbish have to realize that this is a workprint of the ORIGINAL film BEFORE the reshoots apparently.

I saw some of it and it was terrible. It was interesting to see from the technical side however which was the major reason why I watched it. I thought that the print was terrible and the pacing is completely off and incredibly shallow story telling.

I will still be tin the cinema on opening day to see this though because the finalized version will be NOTHING like this. Scenes are different, the editing is different, parts of the story shall (supposedly) be different.

Not The Real Scarecrow

+1, as well the running time is 15 min short of what the finished version will be. Have seen a fair few workprints over the years and generally they give a good feel for what the finished film will be, but not all the time. If anyone saw the workprint of the original starwars you'll know what I mean. It was bloody awful. The workprint is by no means a finished product, even alot of the order of sequences will change before release. I usually enjoy them for seening the technical side and as well because I collect movies and workprints are always a nice addition.
I know some people will download the print and never go to the cinema to see it and in fairness that's up to them.I have seen the print and I will go to the cinema to compare them, and even if its not the best I'll end up buying it anyway.Although as I said before I enjoyed it and am still looking forward to it, it isn't the dark knight but it definately is better than hulk and dare devil.

Johnny Bitte

I watched it last night and TBH I was delighted to see the difference between this and a finished product because it showed me how much work goes into creating these films.

I will most definatly be at the cinema and be purchasing on Blu Ray.

God help the person who uploaded it if they ever find them.

constitutionus

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Yeah thats the way it was. After Magneto tore the Adamantium from his bones he reverted to an animal like state and realised he had bone claws which he forgot ever having due to his memory loss and false memories.

In reality I think Marvel realised taking away the claws took away from the character and needed a quick way to rectify it.

yup.

this was about the time they started to imply that it was his healing factor that was stopping him dying from admantium poisoning too.

to be brutally honest though if you want to go back far enought there was a time everyone thought (including the characters in the book ) that the blades were actually housed in his gloves.

i remember the fact they came out of his body being a fairly big reveal Waaaaaay back in the late seventies.

ive got a look at some of this workprint thing and i have to admit it looks good. i know as others have been saying that theres stil alot of work to be done on it but still i liked what i saw.

anyway i'll be off to see it in the cinema when it comes out too. i always support films i enjoy if only to ensure more get made.

Richard Dower

HAHA!.....i love the ownage this movie is getting, may it bomb in a big way!!

Galvasean

Richard Dower wrote: »

HAHA!.....i love the ownage this movie is getting, may it bomb in a big way!!

It'll probably rake in the dough. I remember when a few ufinished scenes from Transformers were released everyone here taught it would bomb.

Richard Dower

Have to say though, i haven't watched the Workprint...the best way to approach it is watch the official movie and then the workprint.

JohnK

Yeah thats the way I'm going to do it; while I'd love to put it on right now I dont want to spoil the finished product. I do love the slightly behind-the-scenes aspect this workprint will give us though.

MooseJam

Richard Dower wrote: »

Have to say though, i haven't watched the Workprint...the best way to approach it is watch the official movie and then the workprint.

or how about just watch the official movie

Richard Dower

MooseJam wrote: »

or how about just watch the official movie

Where is the fun in that? :rolleyes: ...piracy rocks!

Richard Dower

I'll watch the workprint to see the technical aspects of movie making, and to see what they left out and what they put in.

MooseJam

Richard Dower wrote: »

Where is the fun in that? :rolleyes: ...piracy rocks!

you can pirate the official movie

CyberGhost

I'm temped to watch it but I guess I'll hold back till it's released, then I'll see what the fans/criticis are going to say and then if it's good/better, I'll watch it.

Holsten

It's actually alright, with the opening credits being great... and the ending sucking ass.

EdgarAllenPoo

Holsten wrote: »

It's actually alright, with the opening credits being great... and the ending sucking ass.

There's a nice wee summary right there especially considering the ending.

JohnK

Bloody hell this is a bit harsh, seems Fox News may have fired a reporter who downloaded the workprint

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/wolverine_foxnews_friedman/

Galvasean

Richard Dower wrote: »

I'll watch the workprint to see the technical aspects of movie making, and to see what they left out and what they put in.

I may do the same. Although I'll definately watch the complete film first in case of spoilers.

jayteecork

Just saw the Workprint. Not bad at all, watchable except for the end fight.

The film itself is prettyo good, it serves like a remake of that great 80s action movie, Commando.

paulieeye

The work print was of interest with all the wires and blob explosions.

The ending was absoultly pants

No one kills you cept me..grab my arm old buddie!!

hopefully all of this will be reshot

Galvasean

jayteecork wrote: »

The film itself is prettyo good, it serves like a remake of that great 80s action movie, Commando.

Commando needs no remake. It is PERFECT.