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Noc Forum Feedback

  • 05-03-2009 5:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭


    Noc Forum Feedback

    Greetings my fellow Nocs.
    This thread is for you to throw your ideas, kudos, feedback what-have-you, to us, the mods.
    We'd like to hear your ideas, and opinions for/on the Noc.
    For example, do you know a game that could tie into the forum? (like Urban Dead did on the zombie forum)
    Have you ideas for the Noc Bible, gospels, prayers whatever?
    Do you have an idea for a game (like LZ did with the super amazing battles threads)
    Can we use Tweet, the biki, social.ie, podcasting etc better, and Noc specific?


    Ive stolen questions from bgrh (muhahaha :P) that can be used if ye wish.
    So get those fingers typing and let us know things.*
    Stolen Questions :
    What do you like about The Noc ?
    What do you dislike about The Noc?
    What would you change about The Noc ?
    What would you never change about The Noc ?
    What do you think about the charter ?




    *we assume ye know this, but we'll say it anyway, Specific Mod/Specific User complaints aren't for this thread. Please dont use it to have a go, or continue a fight. If you have an issue, PM us/report posts.
    (for simplicity, just paste this into the "send to:" Box in the pm function.
    Nerin;Sdoom;Randylonghorn;Dragan;Kharn
    
    and entitle the message "Noc Feedback". Thanks. o/


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    Might wanna make it clearer whether you want people to pm you guys with responses or say it in thread. :-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Pm/report posts is for specific issues only.example being naming users that piss you off,giving out about mod decisions etc.
    Everything else is open in thread discussion.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    *DRUNKERMAN POST*

    I'd also be interested in hearing if we can ake les cast du pod betterer, seeing as they are my current cause du celebrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    SDooM wrote: »
    *DRUNKERMAN POST*

    I'd also be interested in hearing if we can ake les cast du pod betterer, seeing as they are my current cause du celebrite.

    Why are you acting French in Germany?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Why are you acting French in Germany?

    What do you mean, act?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Why are you acting French in Germany?
    SDooM wrote: »
    What do you mean, act?
    Ahem!

    I know ME saying this will probably make everyone wet themselves laughing, but can we keep this thread kind of serious / on topic? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    I'm not that into the whole mock cult/ghostly/supernatural side of things. I don't have a problem with it or anything, but don't think it should be too geared towards it, lest folk like me who just tend to stay up really late (though less so for me in recent times) feel unwelcome.

    I think the no mentioning drugs rule is way OTT, the AH approach would make more sense. That's about the only problem I have with the charter.

    The Lair is still a bit too dominant too, however, encouraging threads like games etc. is the right approach.

    Apart from that, good forum!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    I'm not that into the whole mock cult/ghostly/supernatural side of things. I don't have a problem with it or anything, but don't think it should be too geared towards it, lest folk like me who just tend to stay up really late (though less so for me in recent times) feel unwelcome.

    I think the no mentioning drugs rule is way OTT
    , the AH approach would make more sense. That's about the only problem I have with the charter.

    The Lair is still a bit too dominant too, however, encouraging threads like games etc. is the right approach.

    Apart from that, good forum!

    *Shrugs* Sense doesn't come into it sadly when illegal activities are involved. I have seen SMODs say several times that the discussion of anything illegal should not be allowed. Just because you believe it's right doesn't change the fact it could get boards in alot of hot water, sadly. It's been said several times that a mods job is like a janitor and my personal opinions don't come into it- if it's illegal, it's got to go.

    In the first few days of this forum there were several mentions of drug use in rapid succession, which isn't really suprising seeing as it's the "up all night" forum. If people don't see a clear rule for something like that they'll think it's freely up for discussion (IMO rightly so). Thus the drug clause in the charter. If people suddenly decided en masse to discuss burglaries, which are also illegal, we'd have to put something in there about that too.

    Is there that much gearing towards the spooky? I never really see that, tbh. It's more an option thats there for people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Not enough Return to Oz:



    Otherwise, good forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Re: drugs - it's not something I have a huge want to discuss on here, nor do I really care, but I just don't see why the AH approach wouldn't work. You don't have to reply to this if it's not something up for discussion, I just thought I'd throw it out there seeing as opinions on the charter were asked for.
    SDooM wrote: »
    Is there that much gearing towards the spooky? I never really see that, tbh. It's more an option thats there for people.
    Yup, I'm just saying keep it that way ;)
    (I think I have a bad habit of phrasing things in a negative way without actually meaning to express such negativity)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Forum should be closed for business during daylight hours.
    That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Forum should be closed for business during daylight hours.
    That is all.

    It's always night somewhere.
    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    yeah, and it is always quieter here during the 'daytime', much to my disgust when i stay up all night drinking. but..

    What do you like about The Noc ? - that it's mostly active at night, and that it's a pretty friendly crew in here, peeps make an effort to be inclusive, and imo, there's a lot of people here on a similar-ish wavelength to me.
    What do you dislike about The Noc? - can't really think of anything on that one off the top of my head... gotta be a good sign!
    What would you change about The Noc ? - probably get more threads going, so as to take focus from the lair, but at the same time, i can never think of threads to start...
    What would you never change about The Noc ? - the lair's presence, the effort to include everyone, the dark/twisted sense of humour more prevailent here than elsewhere on boards.
    What do you think about the charter ? - well the drug thing is quite strict, and i accept ive been an offender a few times, but i get why it's like that and why it's not gonna change, so moot point really.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    Re: drugs - it's not something I have a huge want to discuss on here, nor do I really care, but I just don't see why the AH approach wouldn't work. You don't have to reply to this if it's not something up for discussion, I just thought I'd throw it out there seeing as opinions on the charter were asked for.

    Yup, I'm just saying keep it that way ;)
    (I think I have a bad habit of phrasing things in a negative way without actually meaning to express such negativity)


    Thats cool, I just think if moderators throw up a feedback thread they should be prepared to explain why they have made the choices they have. It's a two way street. I'm actually going to raise it with the ComMas and see what they say.
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Forum should be closed for business during daylight hours.
    That is all.
    It's always night somewhere.
    That is all.

    What Karl said. Originally we had planned to close the Lair during daylight hours but then people like Watna, Crumble and occasionally Overheal came and ruined all our fun :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    SDooM wrote: »
    Is there that much gearing towards the spooky? I never really see that, tbh. It's more an option thats there for people.

    thats the thing, there isnt really, but for an outsider lookin in it can seem that way! that could be why the lair can seem intimidating even though i know it is one of the most relaxed/welcoming places on boards! maybe look into someway of removing that association in that trying to make it more clear that you can come in and talk about whatever you want (as long as its legal)

    oh and nerin: prayer for the noc bible:

    "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the
    inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in
    the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of
    darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost
    children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious
    anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know
    my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Actually, one little note from myself. As issues come up, some of them may be quite important and require a bit of discussion between us Mods.

    No matter what issues pop up here, we will be happy to deal with them, but certain things may take a little bit more time and discussion that others.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    It's always night somewhere.
    That is all.

    Not when most people are posting.
    Daywalkers, the lot of them.
    That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Not when most people are posting.
    Daywalkers, the lot of them.
    That is all.
    sorry its half 3 on your post, can you post that at night please! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    emo!! wrote: »
    sorry its half 3 on your post, can you post that at night please! :rolleyes:

    True enough!
    I realised the irony associated with the timing of my post. :p

    I suggested the forum be closed/a ban on daytime posts be implimeted, it was shot down, since then I have not participated* in the forum, and shall not.

    (I've made a handful of posts, 3-5 perhaps at a guesstimate).


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    True enough!
    I realised the irony associated with the timing of my post. :p

    I suggested the forum be closed/a ban on daytime posts be implimeted, it was shot down, since then I have not participated* in the forum, and shall not.

    (I've made a handful of posts, 3-5 perhaps at a guesstimate).

    ? No offence but crazy logic dude. I'm not stopping our foreign friends from posting in their night time (this isn't just an excuse, I don't know how many times crumble froo's been here drunk at 3 pm our time). Why are you shooting yourself in the foot because a forum won't implement a rule which would discriminate against 3/4 of the world?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Teutorix


    Is it not written in the nocturnal charter that the forum is about the mindset more than actual nocturalness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    tbh Brian, 3/4 world don't post here do they?

    myself, I feel the forum has moved a huge amount away from what it was intended to be, from the request in "forums" to it's current form.

    don't post at all anymore either [of course i'll attend beers if i'm home :) i'm not stupid!] and only occasionally pop my head into the forum.

    I do realise it's tough to deal with a 'social forum' and what form it takes but noc forum & zombie may as well merge?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    kaimera wrote: »
    tbh Brian, 3/4 world don't post here do they?

    myself, I feel the forum has moved a huge amount away from what it was intended to be, from the request in "forums" to it's current form.

    don't post at all anymore either [of course i'll attend beers if i'm home :) i'm not stupid!] and only occasionally pop my head into the forum.

    I do realise it's tough to deal with a 'social forum' and what form it takes but noc forum & zombie may as well merge?

    We have at least three people popping in and out from different countries.

    Forums change.

    Is it different from the forum request thread? Yup. What do you think we should do then? Do you want it the way it was? What do you think it was for? What do you want it to be?

    I'm a leader of this community but I don't own it, nor can I force it to behave as I wish. I can only clean out the thrash and gently try to guide it.

    Few genuine questions though, as if there is criticism I would like to know how we should deal with it;

    Do you honestly think I should close the whole place down during the day time?

    Do you think I should infract people who post here in the day time?

    Do you honestly think the workload of both the above would be fair on any mod (and not too restrictive on users? Imagine how you'd feel to be infracted for posting during the day!).

    Do you think Ross should write up a script effectively locking the place automatically effectively banning users such as Overheal and Crumble during their night time?

    These are honest questions. These are all things I have mulled over, but not implemented as I cannot see any off them working in reality.

    I have actually thought of one thing which would actually be to split the Noc into two.

    One would effectively be a 20 somethings version of BGRH. Lets be honest, the noc forum is pretty much the party capital of boards and I feel this is the service it's currently providing. And nothing wrong with that, we were the right forum in theright place at the right time.

    The second would be the night time forum, with more strictly enforced rules about what can be posted, etc.

    I would genuinely like to hear from people about these things.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    kaimera wrote: »
    myself, I feel the forum has moved a huge amount away from what it was intended to be, from the request in "forums" to it's current form.

    What changes have happened since the forum began that make you feel it has moved away from what it was? I would be interested to hear it. Remember though that in a lot of cases it's the users who direct where the forum goes not the moderators.

    As for the no posting during the daytime thingey, it's pretty much a non-runner unless someone can think of a way that doesn't involve a load of work for the mods or requires ross to knock something together to do it automatically. Even then it might not still get the go ahead if the admins or most users don't want it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    @AC

    [thread=2055292013]original request thread[/thread] it's 30 pages @ 40 ppp :/

    I'm not in any fit state to read thru it at the moment and work starts again tomorrow so forgive me for not being able to point out anything specific for a while.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    kaimera wrote: »
    30 pages @ 40 ppp :/

    Jeebus, even before we had a forum we didn't know when to shut up. :)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Will take a read of it later, kaimera.


  • Subscribers Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭girl_friday


    In order to constructively add to this thread I have gone back and read all 1195 posts in the Nocturnal thread and found a total of 7 posts that may address the points made.

    In relation to daytime posting:
    This sounds exciting. So what happens if a poster posts during the day?
    Nerin wrote: »
    one must be hiding from the daylight if posting during the day

    This point was also made by a number of other posters throughout the thread where people posted after sleeping in, because they weren't working at the time and because they were off work sick and posting from their sickbeds. Therefore I would imagine that one can take it that prior to approval being given this was taken as being an element of the forum to continue and so is a moot point...

    In the thread it is also mentioned in relation to those in other timezones posting:

    Example:
    watna wrote: »
    I wholeheartedly support this forum. I'm not nocturnal but am currently 11 hours ahead of Irish time. I'll need people to talk to when I'm "working" in order to stop me going insane! You don't want that on your conscience, do you?!
    Nerin wrote: »
    you can be our daywalker :D
    welcome

    Again, there were no objections to this at the time and it appeared to be taken as a logical element of the forum.


    Other posts that indicate the nature and ethos of the forum include:

    To maintain a fun environment
    Nerin wrote: »
    due to recent shenanigans- Nerin makes an amendment to the Nocturnal chartery thing.
    ahem
    No Innerwebz Srys Buzinesz!!1!!
    if the forum ever gets made there shall be no serious downer stuff.
    amendment complete.


    Provisional charter: (please note that there is no mention of opening hours - there had been on the first page of the posts but not on the subsequent 59 pages that I read through so this seemed to have been eliminated at the very early stages)

    Nerin wrote: »
    a Hosted Private Forum for all those nocturnal,insomniac or downright shadowy boardsies.


    Who Belongs Here/Who is Welcome:
    -Insomniacs
    -Nocturnal folks
    -Sun sensitive people
    -Vampires and House trained werewolves
    -Boardies in opposite time zones where night is day and day is night!

    Who Doesnt Belongs Here/Who is not Welcome:
    -Sunbathers
    -Trolls
    -Angry Rule Breaking My way or the Highway types
    -Zombies and Cyclops

    (we'll let some tan people in,but watch em closely to make sure they are really insomniacs.)

    Stickied Threads:
    -Know your Nocturnals
    -Off topic chatter thread
    -Charter
    -Late Night Tv/movie/music thread
    -Late Night snackage idea/recipe thread


    Know your Nocturnals thread will have the rule that the pics posted must be indoors,in shade or at night.

    Posting hours are officially 10pm to 8am.
    but having the curtains drawn counts

    Some Features:
    tea and crumpets and other assorted virtual goodies (as well as beverages of varying choice, both alcoholic and non alcoholic.) as per Ruu request.

    Oath : anyone who joins must swear an oath of allegiance.:pac:

    Nocturnal code (we cant talk about here *looks around suspiciously*)

    Nocturnal Ninjas Strike Force- keeping an eye on boards in the wee hours.

    'Overnight Breaking News' thread as requested by xavi

    Chatter Thread- where to meet online during the backup

    Forum Titles- each user gets title, (takola nocturnal psychic, blue*_lagoon Mistress of the Night, Nightwatchman=Mod etc) as suggested by blue_lagoon and minidazzler

    amendment to Nocturnal Law.
    all flirty comments must keep in the spirit of ridiculously nocturnal yuminess.

    examples:
    ur hawwwt. neh nuuuh. wrong

    your pale complection reminds me of a certain vampire countess lady on a moonlit night. ding ding ding
    decadence,its how we roll.
    as Requested by Tak.


    Users who are in so far :

    Nerin
    Xavi6
    Overheal
    kerash
    star-pants
    orestes 19
    The-Rigger
    Blue_Lagoon
    minidazzler
    takola
    randylonghorn
    Mirror
    HAPPYGIRL
    The Recliner
    SDooM
    watna
    nkay1985
    thusspakeblixa
    DarkJager
    The Scientist
    nevf
    Ruu
    Mr.Blue Sky
    c - 13
    square_igloo
    Rozabeez
    CaptainNegative
    kmart6
    Jeremiah 16:1
    tribulus
    Dragan
    Zamboni
    LovelyTom
    kaimera

    ^Bumpity Bump^ :D

    also, did i leave people out of the list of people in?
    im sure i have,* scans thread*

    ps also

    if i forgot invites for here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/group.php?groupid=44
    let me know ^_^

    pps http://wiki.boards.ie/wiki/The_Nocturnal_Forum <- wiki page


    And finally SDooMs pitch to Kharn for the forum which was the reason it was approved in the end (in combination with a bribe of a song and 2 beers :confused: ) which seems to sum up the forum quite well...
    SDooM wrote: »
    Ok, well basically I guess it could be described as a forum for all those people who, due to insomnia or work or whatever, don't always live life to the rythym other people do.

    What is amazing is you would think that people like that wouldn't have things in common but look at this thread- over a thousand posts long- they do.

    There are enough people online over night to sustain a viable community, but there's nothing to get us together in the same place (outside of the in before back-up thing.)

    It is intended for the Nocturnal forum to he humourous and lighthearted, much like this thread has been so far.

    Ideas for discussion for the forum would be, for example, night time munchies, films on in the wee small hours, what has you insomniac, and spooky night time things (it's almost like it's unnatural NOT mentioning things like Vampires and Werewolves, etc.)

    The word "nocturnal" also, for me, has an implicit gothic/ countercultural ring to it and it seems to have already bound together some new posters who never had a place together before ( littletom, Mr Crystal for example) and older posters like myself and nerin and there are topics that I can percieve popping up would cross alot of forums- games, music, television, film- with nocturnal/ dark/ weird themes which have a binding theme and could and should be discussed together.

    The loving of nearly everyone here of Jhonen Vasquez's work is a good example.

    The beards forum is deserved, but I believe that those of us who lurk in the dark need a place to gather in peace and solace away from the light.



    *gets off soapbox*




    On a personal note I like the forum and what it is at present. Fora change over time and as someone else mentioned it is up to the community what they make of it and mods can only attempt to steer it to a certain extent... I would add more but tbh I am wrecked from reading the 60 pages and 1165 posts so maybe later....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Nerin wrote: »
    Do you have an idea for a game (like LZ did with the super amazing battles threads)

    Aw hell.:D Unfortunately I can't do any more until June.:(


    What do you like about The Noc ?

    There's a great family vibe off the place. That's all I can really say!

    What do you dislike about The Noc?

    Probably the lack of turnover in regards to threads in the Nocturnal Forum. It just seems that although new threads are created, the same old threads continue to dominate.

    What would you change about The Noc ?

    Nothing major. Perhaps the creation of threads dedicated to the discussion of specific areas of Nocturnal interest such as a thread committed to the discussion of Film, TV, Arts and Culture in general.

    What would you never change about The Noc ?

    The regular beers! I haven't attended one myself just yet but that is simply due to a case of being a student pauper! Really looking forward to meeting you all.

    What do you think about the charter ?


    I'm probably being a bit too sensitive but I dislike the use of the word "tribalism" exclusively in relation to soccer. I mean we all have interests that we are passionate about and there are some people who would take their interest a bit too far by causing disharmony. It's not something exclusive to soccer so I don't know why it should be singled out.

    Other than that, the Charter is in fine shape.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    In order to constructively add to this thread I have gone back and read all 1195 posts in the Nocturnal thread and found a total of 7 posts that may address the points made.

    Holy phuq!

    Thanks for that. That's commitment there. I expect the rest of the nocs to read the lair from the start to make up to GF :P

    I think whats happening here is actually a microcosm of whats happening all over boards tbh. It's growing and expanding and changing. Is this place different from how it felt in the very early days? Well, yes. But then we've gone from the little thread that could the the forum hosting the biggest thread on boards, with several threads with several thousand posts, near bi weekly beers, and I think we are on our 7th mod. Of course we've changed.

    There was an anarchic air to the place thats not here anymore for me.

    Possibly for me it's because I have my mod hat on now when I am viewing the place instead of basically acting as the ringleader of a big gang. That was fun but it couldn't last.

    But I don't know that thats wrong. Sure half the people who were posting in the noc in the early days aren't any more. I can remember seeing the same "problem" being reported in BGRH. TBH I just think it is maturation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    SDooM wrote: »
    Do you think Ross should write up a script effectively locking the place automatically effectively banning users such as Overheal and Crumble during their night time?

    just so say, i wouldnt be entirely against a potential daytime lock. i rarely stay up at night and post in here, and i am just using it as a chat, then, so ... yeah, i wouldnt be averse to seeing it locked.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,951 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    What do you like about The Noc ?
    The sense of humour of the posters and the general inclusive nature of the forum. Its easily the forum I spend most of my time posting, because I enjoy posting in the forum.

    What do you dislike about The Noc?
    Can't think of anything off the top of my head.

    What would you change about The Noc ?
    As mentioned before, try to get more threads running. Just have to think what those threads would be.

    What would you never change about The Noc ?
    The general sense of fun the forum has.

    What do you think about the charter ?
    Its lacking a mention of Lord Dragan:pac:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What do you like about The Noc ? Ultimate Showdowns of Ultimate Destinies
    What do you dislike about The Noc?
    Every time a post in the lair I fall asleep. Whats in the incense?
    What would you change about The Noc ? Sticky The Lair, maybe force a black forum skin on anyone viewing Noc.
    What would you never change about The Noc? The Nerdy Undertones
    What do you think about the charter ? Needs more Cowbell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Teutorix


    Overheal wrote: »
    What would you change about The Noc ? Sticky The Lair, maybe force a black forum skin on anyone viewing Noc.
    .
    i use it anyway, but i think this idea is good. it also is better for your eyes if in the dark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Overheal wrote: »
    What do you like about The Noc ? Ultimate Showdowns of Ultimate Destinies.

    Thank you.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You're welcome, but I Gotta have more Cowbell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Overheal wrote: »
    You're welcome, but I Gotta have more Cowbell.

    Cowbell?:pac:

    Unfortunately my last three months in college gotta take precedence over the Noc forum so I won't be instigating anything until at least May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Cowbell?:pac:
    Cowbell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    SDooM wrote: »
    I'm not stopping our foreign friends from posting in their night time

    I didn't suggest you should.
    Let people post in their night time.
    SDooM wrote: »
    (this isn't just an excuse, I don't know how many times crumble froo's been here drunk at 3 pm our time). Why are you shooting yourself in the foot because a forum won't implement a rule which would discriminate against 3/4 of the world?

    I'm not shooting myself the foot, I'm just not arsed.
    Originally I thought the forum might be a bit different, when I realised it wasn't going to be, I realised I wasn't arsed.

    A name change or a policy change is in order, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    SDooM wrote: »
    ? No offence but crazy logic dude. I'm not stopping our foreign friends from posting in their night time (this isn't just an excuse, I don't know how many times crumble froo's been here drunk at 3 pm our time). Why are you shooting yourself in the foot because a forum won't implement a rule which would discriminate against 3/4 of the world?

    oh christ, surely that in itself is reason enough to turn the post switch off! :eek:

    i think it'd be nice if people tried to make an effort to aovid posting during the day... one thing having a chat thread at night, hell, use the OTB in the tattoos and piercings forum during the day, it's a lot of the same people, and just a general chat thread, nothing to do with the forum it's in (though it's not come out especially well after a similar feedback thread recently).

    edit: nevermind. just saw that OTB's been locked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    SDooM wrote: »
    Thats cool, I just think if moderators throw up a feedback thread they should be prepared to explain why they have made the choices they have. It's a two way street. I'm actually going to raise it with the ComMas and see what they say.





    What Karl said. Originally we had planned to close the Lair during daylight hours but then people like Watna, Crumble and occasionally Overheal came and ruined all our fun :)

    Mwah hah hah!
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    I didn't suggest you should.
    Let people post in their night time.



    I'm not shooting myself the foot, I'm just not arsed.
    Originally I thought the forum might be a bit different, when I realised it wasn't going to be, I realised I wasn't arsed.

    A name change or a policy change is in order, imo.

    But if I only post in my night time, then it'll be daytime for all you guys at home and you won't be allowed to post. So people in other timezones will have nobody to talk to. Well, I'll have crumble froo but I can just talk to her on msn so that defeats the purpose.

    I used to frequent here a fair bit but since I've stopped modding the forum I haven't visited much. I'm not sure why exactly but I don't mind that the forum has taken a different direction to how I thought it would originally. That's how boards works - it evolves because of the posters. I really like that about boards and noc is a good example of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    My input would be that the forum has veered significantly from what I though it would be. The positives are great, lots and lots of lovely people posting and contributing to the forum and maybe only for it I personally wouldn't have got chatting to those nice peoples :)

    What drew me to the idea was the non-exclusivity, for people with different interests to come together (as nocturnals), the quirkiness and fun the forum would offer.
    Then at one stage I felt as though the sporty or soccer peoples were being cast out! for ye are not true nocturnals! Followed by a derogatory remark about tCN. :(

    SDooM fair play to you on trying to lead the forum, and encouraging various threads aside from the Lair. I sometimes wonder though would the forum be better served being user driven...

    Aside from that, feedback is a great positive, inclusive idea so well done. :)
    ps. LZ's thread was one of my faves:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    I didn't suggest you should.
    Let people post in their night time.



    I'm not shooting myself the foot, I'm just not arsed.
    Originally I thought the forum might be a bit different, when I realised it wasn't going to be, I realised I wasn't arsed.

    A name change or a policy change is in order, imo.
    then they would have no-one to talk to o.0 it wouldnt work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Initially, for me, the main reason why the Noc forum was even requested was simple because there are people awake at night, for one reason or another.

    That was supposed to be the key element i felt. All the other stuff came later and was put there by the people who came in and the community would grow.

    Right now, we are basically trying to do the same thing, get input from the community and adapt and change. Change is not a bad thing.

    Keep them all coming, everything is being thought about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭cHaTbOx


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    A name change or a policy change is in order, imo.
    You have a point here it is not really just a nocturnal forum anymore a name change may be in order.
    emo!! wrote: »
    then they would have no-one to talk to o.0 it wouldnt work
    It is rarely these three posters .

    To be honest I miss the way it was , when there was an unspoken rule not to post before 7 in the evening.

    The-Rigger is right , I think there should be no daytime posting , maybe set up a thread in the Cuckoos Nest during the day.

    This forum set out with a purpose to be exclusive for the night , I know purposes change and you can see that but what is the purpose now. Bi-weekly beers and a chat thread . This place is going to get slowly and slowly more quieter .

    Posting is more frequent during the day than the night ,
    I'm not saying to ban posters if they post during the day , but at least close the Lair from 9-7 during the day and maybe use a thread in the Cuckoos Nest .

    I don't know but do you ever get the feeling this forum should be just called the Lair. Maybe have dark side of things in here , why not call it the Lair , because it is not really nocturnal anymore imo.

    I think there has to be a change , I don't know what but there has been too many posters imo put off posting here .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    cHaTbOx wrote: »
    To be honest I miss the way it was , when there was an unspoken rule not to post before 7 in the evening. ...

    The-Rigger is right , I think there should be no daytime posting

    This forum set out with a purpose to be exclusive for the night ,

    ...
    close the Lair from 9-7 during the day

    ...

    i disagree with all of this! to post in BGRH you dont have to have a beer gut or a receeding hairline so why should there be that specific a rule! you wanna come in and have a friendly chat (which the lair is the best place to do) you should be allowed, whatever time of the day or night! being nocturnal could just being being dark....querky, or just prefering the night, it doesnt mean you HAVE to post after 8pm!

    and lets be honest, we have to post during the day, how else are we going to avoid the shiney cancer ball?! :p

    (ps: did you see the irony in posting at 12:25 stating there should be no daytime posting!! :pac: :p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭cHaTbOx


    i disagree with all of this! to post in BGRH you dont have to have a beer gut or a receeding hairline so why should there be that specific a rule! you wanna come in and have a friendly chat (which the lair is the best place to do) you should be allowed, whatever time of the day or night! being nocturnal could just being being dark....querky, or just prefering the night, it doesnt mean you HAVE to post after 8pm!
    That is not nocturnal , and this is not BRGH . In Brgh there is a role play if you wish. What is there in this forum? Yes I love the fact that it is friendly but , what would be wrong with having the the lair locked from 9-7 if it is a nocturnal forum . Have a thread in tCN

    Now if that is not going down well which it obviously isn't , then it is obvious that there needs to be a name change , to the Lair and remove connotations that this is a nocturnal forum and more a place for the dark quirky geeky etc natured people. More posting seems to be going on during the day , is that really nocturnal ?

    If the name stays the same and the lair is locked from 9-7 , have a thread in the cuckoos nest during the day , make the Lair a little more lively a nights. Maybe see if it is possible for posts in the lair not to add to post count .
    and lets be honest, we have to post during the day, how else are we going to avoid the shiney cancer ball?! :p

    (ps: did you see the irony in posting at 12:25 stating there should be no daytime posting!! :pac: :p)
    Nah I took the option to it say now so it can discuss it into the night :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭lolly22


    cHaTbOx wrote: »
    If the name stays the same and the lair is locked from 9-7 , have a thread in the cuckoos nest during the day , make the Lair a little more lively a nights.

    Hey CHatbox hope you dont mind but im just a little confused by this :)

    Are you saying that you think by shutting the Lair during these hours its going to make most that post during the day, post during the night if its taken away from them at the hours you suggest :confused:

    Im sorry i just dont agree!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    is a #lair out of the question?

    couldn't be officially associated with boards tho iirc [i am open to correction on this]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭cHaTbOx


    lolly22 wrote: »
    Hey CHatbox hope you dont mind but im just a little confused by this :)

    Are you saying that you think by shutting the Lair during these hours its going to make most that post during the day, post during the night if its taken away from them at the hours you suggest :confused:
    A lot of people who post at during the day usually post during the day.

    If there is a thread in tCN then anyone who chats during the day can chat there , but save the the Lair for people up at night , so this forum has a niche.


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