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Karlusss

1. Detroit Lions (jdivision)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)


(repost the draft order with your pick edited in if you possibly can just so there's no mixups. Also, give your reasons at the top or the bottom so the next person can just copy and paste the list. Good luck)

Karlusss

To repeat:
1. The Detroit Lions with the first pick in the draft select:
University of Virginia Cavaliers left tackle Eugene Monroe. The Lions decide to build from the lines out, selecting the more polished product over the potential of Baylor's Jason Smith as they need quality and quick. The move allows last year's first round pick Cherildus to move to RT full time and will mean George Foster could be resigned to guard, replacing the ineffective and unmotivated Ed Mulitato who has been released.

Next on the clock, the St Louis Rams

1. Detroit Lions (jdivision) - Eugene Monroe LT (Virginia)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)

Karlusss

2. With the second pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the St. Louis Rams select:

Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry. Despite the offensive line's ongoing need of an upgrade, the Rams saw the player they liked gone off the board and decided that, with Jason Brown on board in free agency as the first true starting centre of the past few seasons, they could comfortably pick the player who is, in their opinion, the best overall in the draft. Curry will plug in at middle linebacker for the Rams straight away, allowing Will Witherspoon to return to his best position outside.

Next on the clock, the Kansas City Chiefs.


1. Detroit Lions (jdivision) - Eugene Monroe LT (Virginia)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss) - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)

Trippie

3. With the third pick in the 2009 NFL Draft; the Kansas City Chiefs select:

The 6'4" 332 pound Alabama Offensive Tackle Andre Smith. He has doubts over his character but for sheer ability and presence there is none alike in this years draft. He is big, strong extremely hard to get past and surprisingly quick at getting to the secondary. With Aaron Curry going it came down to a decision between two OT's one has impressed scouts with his attitude and determination and the other impressed with his ability. We can shape his attitude a lot easier than his ability and it is because of this we have selected Andre Smith as our first pick.

The Seattle Seahawks are on the clock now.

1. Detroit Lions (jdivision) - Eugene Monroe LT (Virginia)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss) - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie) - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)

Royal Seahawk

With the fourth pick the Seattle Seahawks select Michael Crabtree from Texas Tech. Many people might question this pick with the Seahawks having signed TJ Houshmanzadeh earlier in the week. However its looking more and more likely that 35 year Bobby Engram will not be resigned leaving the inconsistent Deion Branch alongside Houshmanzadeh as our main wideouts. There can be no denying that we are receiver needy. We have a decent Quarterback and Defence(when healthy) so we hope this pick helps to get our offence moving and get the Seahawks back on top of the NFC West where we belong.


1. Detroit Lions (jdivision) - Eugene Monroe LT (Virginia)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss) - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie) - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk) Michael Crabtree (Texas Tech)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)

jdivision

Seahawk, Trippie chose Andre Smith not Jason Smith (even though Jason Smith's not going past Number 2 in the real draft LOL)

Trippie

jdivision wrote: »

Seahawk, Trippie chose Andre Smith not Jason Smith (even though Jason Smith's not going past Number 2 in the real draft LOL)

That was my fault, i was between two minds as to who to pick and had Jason down originally on the list but changed it back to Andre in the end

eagle eye

Well before I pick do you not think this has gone a bit silly already with a certain top two not being taken by the first four?

tallaghtoutlaws

eagle eye wrote: »

Well before I pick do you not think this has gone a bit silly already with a certain top two not being taken by the first four?

I agree. Are we picking on our own opinions? Or are we going to pick reality and fact?

Royal Seahawk

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I agree. Are we picking on our own opinions? Or are we going to pick reality and fact?

A bit of both i think. Anything can happen in a draft in fairness.

Its just a bit of fun folks......

eagle eye

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

A bit of both i think. Anything can happen in a draft in fairness.

Its just a bit of fun folks......

While anything can happen to a certain extent, Matt Stafford is a certain no.1 pick unless he gets run over by a bus or shoots himself in the leg like a certain WR we all know. I would have liked for our mock draft to have some semblence of reality and seriousness about it so that we could end up near to the real thing but thats not possible now.

tallaghtoutlaws

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

A bit of both i think. Anything can happen in a draft in fairness.

Its just a bit of fun folks......

Fun yes but I do agree with Eagle Eye. Some of the obvious picks like Stafford setup the rest of the draft by them going early. Thats why I suggested round 2 also as it then makes people think of the teams real needs.

Royal Seahawk

Fair enough but speaking for myself i can't imagine the Seahawks drafting a QB.

Karlusss

I don't think it's ever a certain top 2. The Lions were in the market for Cassell or Cutler when that mess was going on, so they're not completely gone with their number one pick. And personally, with Andre Smith gone weird and Eugene Monroe picked in this draft, I went with Curry, as many others following the Rams' needs would.

Why is Jason Smith not going out of the top 2? If Stafford does go to the Lions, there's no reason to think that the Rams like him best of the three elite OTs.

Anyway, we may as well keep going.

titan18

eagle eye wrote: »

While anything can happen to a certain extent, Matt Stafford is a certain no.1 pick unless he gets run over by a bus or shoots himself in the leg like a certain WR we all know. I would have liked for our mock draft to have some semblence of reality and seriousness about it so that we could end up near to the real thing but thats not possible now.

Stafford ain't a certain no.1 pick at all.He shouldnt be the no.1 pick as the Lions have biger needs and he'll get destroyed behind their o-line.

Tbh, unless someone makes a completely stupid and outrageous pick, you cant complain, any of the picks made so far could happen.I dont think that any of them will happen myself but theres the possibilty that they get picked by those teams.

Hazys

eagle eye wrote: »

While anything can happen to a certain extent, Matt Stafford is a certain no.1 pick unless he gets run over by a bus or shoots himself in the leg like a certain WR we all know. I would have liked for our mock draft to have some semblence of reality and seriousness about it so that we could end up near to the real thing but thats not possible now.

I'd say Matt Stafford is a certain no.1 pick as Reggie Bush was a few years ago...

eagle eye

titan18 wrote: »

Stafford ain't a certain no.1 pick at all.He shouldnt be the no.1 pick as the Lions have biger needs and he'll get destroyed behind their o-line.

Tbh, unless someone makes a completely stupid and outrageous pick, you cant complain, any of the picks made so far could happen.I dont think that any of them will happen myself but theres the possibilty that they get picked by those teams.

That bit, he is as certain a no.1 pick as there has been for some time.

I'll make a pick now, but I'm saying right here that I had higher hopes for this draft than what has happened. It basically means I cannot be right with my draft pick for Browns.

Lirange

As long as people provide a reasonable explanation and it meets a team need I don't have a problem with it. There has to be some discretion given here or what's the point? I'd like to think we're doing more here than just copying our favourite analyst's mock draft board. I can browse the net for that myself. It might go off verse here and there but isn't that the idea? As long as people don't get outrageous and start making first round choices out of third round prospects. There should be some parity with the scout evaluations.

eagle eye

The Browns will pick Matthew Stafford:rolleyes:, because the idiot teams above them in the draft did not see that Matt Stafford was available. We'll trade off Derek Anderson and get a third round pick for him to leave us with a very strong hand later in the draft after trading Kellen Winslow for draft picks earlier. Now we have a balanced draft. Roll on whoevers next.


1. Detroit Lions (jdivision) - Eugene Monroe LT (Virginia)
2. St. Louis Rams (Karlusss) - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (Trippie) - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
4. Seattle Seahawks (Royal Seahawk) Michael Crabtree (Texas Tech)
5. Cleveland Browns (eagle eye) Matthew Stafford (Georgia)
6. Cincinnati Bengals (titan18)
7. Oakland Raiders (Trippie)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (kev s88)
9. Green Bay Packers (raddo)
10. San Francisco 49ers (Sea Devils)
11. Buffalo Bills (Chucky the tree)
12. Denver Broncos (tallaghtoutlaws)
13. Washington Redskins (Lirange)
14. New Orleans Saints (Leslie91)
15. Houston Texans (Chucky the tree)
16. San Diego Chargers (kev s88)
17. New York Jets (raven136)
18. Chicago Bears (Chucky the tree)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Chanandler Bong)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (jdivision)
21. Philadelphia Eagles (Karlusss)
22. Minnesota Vikings (Sea Devils)
23. New England Patriots (eagle eye)
24. Atlanta Falcons (tallaghtoutlaws)
25. Miami Dolphins (raddo)
26. Baltimore Ravens (Lirange)
27. Indianapolis Colts (Chanandler Bong)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) (Karlusss)
29. New York Giants (Royal Seahawk)
30. Tennessee Titans (Chucky the tree)
31. Arizona Cardinals (jdivision)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (titan18)

titan18

Are you serious with that pick?Please tell me its a joke.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Stafford ain't a certain no.1 pick at all.He shouldnt be the no.1 pick as the Lions have biger needs and he'll get destroyed behind their o-line.

Tbh, unless someone makes a completely stupid and outrageous pick, you cant complain, any of the picks made so far could happen.I dont think that any of them will happen myself but theres the possibilty that they get picked by those teams.

Funny thing is people made the same comment about Matt Ryan saying the exact same things you just said and look what happened Atlanta couldn't pass up the number 1 overall pick. and the sad thing in reality Detroit will most likely take Stafford. They have failed to pick up any decent QB in trades or free agency so many have hinted they are going to groom Stafford.

titan18

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Funny thing is people made the same comment about Matt Ryan saying the exact same things you just said and look what happened Atlanta couldn't pass up the number 1 overall pick. and the sad thing in reality Detroit will most likely take Stafford. They have failed to pick up any decent QB in trades or free agency so many have hinted they are going to groom Stafford.

Ryan was picked with the no.3 pick, not the no.1, and a lot of people will tell you taht Ryan had a much greater chacne of succeeding than Stafford wil if he goes to the Lions.They have one of the worst o-lines in the league and a horrible defence.He has no chance to stay up and will end up ike Carr or Harrington.The Falcons had a much better side than the Lions.

Also, there is no chance in hell that the Browns take Stafford, picking him to balance the players taken is stupid.Anderson and Quinn are still at the Browns so even though neither are great, its not a position of need for them.Look at their defence and you can see their needs, there's holes all over it.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Ryan was picked with the no.3 pick, not the no.1, and a lot of people will tell you taht Ryan had a much greater chacne of succeeding than Stafford wil if he goes to the Lions.They have one of the worst o-lines in the league and a horrible defence.He has no chance to stay up and will end up ike Carr or Harrington.The Falcons had a much better side than the Lions.

Also, there is no chance in hell that the Browns take Stafford, picking him to balance the players taken is stupid.Anderson and Quinn are still at the Browns so even though neither are great, its not a position of need for them.Look at their defence and you can see their needs, there's holes all over it.

I know where Ryan was picked but Atlanta were pressured into taking the number 1 overall player. It turned out the teams above had bigger needs than a QB. But everyone and I mean everyone said that the Falcons wouldnt take regardless of his abilities. Stafford will go number 1.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

They have one of the worst o-lines in the league and a horrible defence.

So did Atlanta and look how that turned out. Smart drafting and FA grabs.

kev_s88

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I know where Ryan was picked but Atlanta were pressured into taking the number 1 overall player. It turned out the teams above had bigger needs than a QB. But everyone and I mean everyone said that the Falcons wouldnt take regardless of his abilities. Stafford will go number 1.

can we get over all the player hatin' and get on with the draft??? yeah fair enough the picks have gone a little awry but lets just get one with it...what good is arguing about it going to do*




*I just want it to get to my Jags....for the love of God, hurry up

tallaghtoutlaws

kev_s88 wrote: »

can we get over all the player hatin' and get on with the draft??? yeah fair enough the picks have gone a little awry but lets just get one with it...what good is arguing about it going to do*




*I just want it to get to my Jags....for the love of God, hurry up

What Player hating? And the Jags suck good luck trying to fix the LA Jaguars :D:D

eagle eye

titan18 wrote: »

Are you serious with that pick?Please tell me its a joke.

Are you up with the times, they just traded off Winslow for draft picks, so they will have plenty of opportunity to address their needs. Anyways this draft is not realistic as Stafford is going at no.1. I just picked him to balance things up.

titan18

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

So did Atlanta and look how that turned out. Smart drafting and FA grabs.

The Falcons werent even close to how bad the Lions o-line is.

eagle eye wrote: »

Are you up with the times, they just traded off Winslow for draft picks, so they will have plenty of opportunity to address their needs. Anyways this draft is not realistic as Stafford is going at no.1. I just picked him to balance things up.

Picking a qb isnt addressing a need for the Browns and your reasoning is stupid.How do you know he's going to go at no.1 cos if the Lions dont pick him, he's going a long way down.The Lions have much bigger needs than qb and evryone knows that, so having them pick a OT is a good, sensible decision.Picking Stafford for the Browns is not.

eagle eye

titan18 wrote: »

The Falcons werent even close to how bad the Lions o-line is.



Picking a qb isnt addressing a need for the Browns and your reasoning is stupid.How do you know he's going to go at no.1 cos if the Lions dont pick him, he's going a long way down.The Lions have much bigger needs than qb and evryone knows that, so having them pick a OT is a good, sensible decision.Picking Stafford for the Browns is not.

If he gets to no.5 he will not go past no.5 guaranteed.

Lirange

I think he'd slide at least to the 49ers.

He's not rated the best prospect in the draft, just the best QB.

titan18

eagle eye wrote: »

If he gets to no.5 he will not go past no.5 guaranteed.

Explain to me then, why the Browns should pick Stafford?

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Explain to me then, why the Browns should pick Stafford?

Just so you know the Patriots gave up more sacks than the Lions this year. 11 more to be precise so it does show improvement on the Lions O-line. The Lions as a team are rubbish. Bad coaching bad players overall.

Again I say the Lions can use Stafford if they draft smart and use the Free agency.

And to close this Eagle Eye explained his reason why the Browns will take Stafford.

titan18

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Just so you know the Patriots gave up more sacks than the Lions this year. 11 more to be precise so it does show improvement on the Lions O-line. The Lions as a team are rubbish. Bad coaching bad players overall.

Again I say the Lions can use Stafford if they draft smart and use the Free agency.

And to close this Eagle Eye explained his reason why the Browns will take Stafford.

Ya, I think that Patriots o-line is one of the worst in the league, so taht doenst mean a lot to me.Eagle Eye's explanation was that Stafford whould be gone by now, no hint of anything in relation to the Browns.

eagle eye

titan18 wrote: »

Explain to me then, why the Browns should pick Stafford?

Eric Mangini states that the QB job in Cleveland is wide open. He is not a fan of Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn. Therefore if a talent like Stafford drops as far as No.5 he will be taking him.

He has got a lot of draft picks to fill their needs but a QB seems top of his list. Therefore Stafford will go at no.5 very latest, even if he is gone I wouldn't totally rule out Sanchez being picked by them although thats unlikely.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, I think that Patriots o-line is one of the worst in the league, so taht doenst mean a lot to me.Eagle Eye's explanation was that Stafford whould be gone by now, no hint of anything in relation to the Browns.

Oh I remember this old argument :rolleyes:

And by your reasoning then the Patriots shouldnt have went 11-5 and should be 0-16 haha. Im bowing out of this before I argue with your silly statements. I know its your opinion and you are well entitled to it but the Patriots with the worst o-line :D:D:D:rolleyes:

titan18

eagle eye wrote: »

Eric Mangini states that the QB job in Cleveland is wide open. He is not a fan of Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn. Therefore if a talent like Stafford drops as far as No.5 he will be taking him.

He has got a lot of draft picks to fill their needs but a QB seems top of his list. Therefore Stafford will go at no.5 very latest, even if he is gone I wouldn't totally rule out Sanchez being picked by them although thats unlikely.

Stafford aint a talent at all,he's only ok, not going to be a great qb in the league.A team should address its needs before drafting a 3rd qb capable of starting.Browns have plenty of needs, taking orakpo, brown, davis, jenkins, even a rb to take some pressure off the qb is a better move.

kev_s88

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

What Player hating? And the Jags suck good luck trying to fix the LA Jaguars :D:D

ooooh a dagger to the heart

kev_s88

titan18 wrote: »

Stafford aint a talent at all,he's only ok, not going to be a great qb in the league.A team should address its needs before drafting a 3rd qb capable of starting.Browns have plenty of needs, taking orakpo, brown, davis, jenkins, even a rb to take some pressure off the qb is a better move.

it may be a better need but whats to say there actually gonna make that move...we're just dragging up an argument about BAP stats and stuff. can we please just get on with the draft and forget this whole stupid episode happened. just like in the real draft we have to allow for eventualities...get on with it !!!

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Stafford aint a talent at all,he's only ok, not going to be a great qb in the league. move.

How can you say this? How do you even know this? Thats just your opinion is all. Alot of people said the same thing about many of the greats in the league in the past and now. You cant judge anyone until they have played a few years. I have said alot of negative things about Tebow myself but my opinion on him is reserved until he has actually played in the pros.

tallaghtoutlaws

kev_s88 wrote: »

ooooh a dagger to the heart

A friend of mine lives in Jacksonville and he will move to LA if the Jags move haha he is die hard Jags. He said its a pity they cant get crowds.

titan18

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Oh I remember this old argument :rolleyes:

And by your reasoning then the Patriots shouldnt have went 11-5 and should be 0-16 haha. Im bowing out of this before I argue with your silly statements. I know its your opinion and you are well entitled to it but the Patriots with the worst o-line :D:D:D:rolleyes:

Didnt say the worst, said one of the worst.And the o-line doesnt make a team, particularly when you've got Welker to throw to who can make a QB and an O-Line look better.If you look at the amount of sacks they allowed and the amount of times a run for a loss was recorded, qb hurries, you'll see what i mean.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Didnt say the worst, said one of the worst.And the o-line doesnt make a team, particularly when you've got Welker to throw to who can make a QB and an O-Line look better.If you look at the amount of sacks they allowed and the amount of times a run for a loss was recorded, qb hurries, you'll see what i mean.

Again you can bring up the same crap and you wont get an argument from me as it will be time wasted

titan18

Grand, I'm out of this draft.Couldn't be bothered drafting with idiots when I've got proper things to do.

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

Grand, I'm out of this draft.Couldn't be bothered drafting with idiots when I've got proper things to do.

No need to call us idiots now in fairness. What because we dont agree with your opinion you walk off in a huff. Grow up.

eagle eye

titan18 wrote: »

Stafford aint a talent at all,he's only ok, not going to be a great qb in the league.A team should address its needs before drafting a 3rd qb capable of starting.Browns have plenty of needs, taking orakpo, brown, davis, jenkins, even a rb to take some pressure off the qb is a better move.

You forgot to put an IMO in that statement, because you really don't have a clue if you thing Stafford will drop below no.5.

I also quote for reference in the future, go back to last year and you will see that I believed that the Dolphins should have picked Matt Ryan at no.1.

Stafford has all the tools to be a top NFL QB, he reminds me a lot of the guys of years gone by with his powerful arm. I think you are seriously underestimating the guy. He can throw the ball any distance, he has serious power in his arm and can fizz a ball out there and he has good mobility. He is smart and can read a defence and see who's open, he doesn't panic. Have you watched any of the games he's played?

titan18

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

No need to call us idiots now in fairness. What because we dont agree with your opinion you walk off in a huff. Grow up.

I wouldnt mind if the Lions drafted Stafford in this as it could happen, Browns wont and he was picked cos he wanted the draft to be balanced and he thought that he'd be gone no.1.And I've never met someone who knew anything about O-Lines to think that the Pats had a good one.THere is some stupid stuff said on this forum, some of ye are grand but some here didnt know what a mock draft was in the first place.Not that hard to figure out imo.I've done loads of these, 7 rounders etc.This one is a waste of my time.Anyone who thinks that the Browns should draft Stafford is an idiot imo.

Eagle Eye, I watch a lot of college football, I analyse games during the season to see who to watch out for in the Draft and to help me in some stuff that I'm in. I do the same to NFL games, but no to the same extent cos I already know who the players to watch are in that.I had nothing against Ryan last year, I thought he'd be a good qb, not Stafford though.I think that Freeman is a better prospect than him and some other lesser guys who may go in the late rounds or go undrafted, not sure yet.

Stafford has a good arm but I think he'll be a bust.If he was taken as the Lions pick tbh, I wouldn't have cared cos the Lions need a qb and more importantly a new face of the franchise, Browns dont need him though, position that need the least cos they have 2 capable starters already.

kev_s88

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

A friend of mine lives in Jacksonville and he will move to LA if the Jags move haha he is die hard Jags. He said its a pity they cant get crowds.

yeah i really think its only a matter of time until they go...not a large enough market in Florida to support 3 football franchises...it was always gonna be tough to come in to a tradition rich state and start brand new... i almost think that a move to LA might be a good, fresh start.

kev_s88

anyways back to the draft.....if titans18 is out i'll take one of his teams to get this thing moving again

tallaghtoutlaws

titan18 wrote: »

I wouldnt mind if the Lions drafted Stafford in this as it could happen, Browns wont and he was picked cos he wanted the draft to be balanced and he thought that he'd be gone no.1.And I've never met someone who knew anything about O-Lines to think that the Pats had a good one.THere is some stupid stuff said on this forum, some of ye are grand but some here didnt know what a mock draft was in the first place.Not that hard to figure out imo.I've done loads of these, 7 rounders etc.This one is a waste of my time.Anyone who thinks that the Browns should draft Stafford is an idiot imo.

Eagle Eye, I watch a lot of college football, I analyse games during the season to see who to watch out for in the Draft and to help me in some stuff that I'm in. I do the same to NFL games, but no to the same extent cos I already know who the players to watch are in that.I had nothing against Ryan last year, I thought he'd be a good qb, not Stafford though.I think that Freeman is a better prospect than him and some other lesser guys who may go in the late rounds or go undrafted, not sure yet.

See theres where you are wrong again making silly statements. I coach football and have worked with O-lines at a High School Level in the US and play as a lineman. I never said they were excellent nor did I even state how I think they were. I clearly said they are not one of the worst. By using the 11-5 argument. I honestly think the Pats O-line could be better but they are far from one of the worst and they are are not the best. they are mid range.

And you my friend need to relax as not everyone in life will agree with your opinions. When it comes to mock drafts they are pointless even at a fantasy level if there is not some sort of realism to them. I never said I agree with Eagle Eye either but I defintely saw the humour to his opinion of the Browns picking them. I agree with him Stafford wont drop out of the top 5 though.

Karlusss

Is this what Owners meetings are like?

Here's the fake ESPN.com story: Matthew Stafford gone off the board at number 5 because the Lions decided to build from the line out and the next three teams had QB way, way down their list of needs - Rams because they've got so much money in Bulger, Chiefs because they just traded for Cassel and Seahawks because they're probably happy with Seneca Wallace as a prospect.

Cincinnati Bengals on the clock.

jdivision

eagle eye wrote: »

That bit, he is as certain a no.1 pick as there has been for some time.

I'll make a pick now, but I'm saying right here that I had higher hopes for this draft than what has happened. It basically means I cannot be right with my draft pick for Browns.

He's not at all. Lions will be **** next year anyway but have far better QBs coming out next year. So saying he's a cert at no 1 is utter bull****. I disagree and think picks 2 and 3 are laughable. Having said that I think most draft analysts are picking Justin Smith now to go no 1. I think it's still too early and lions can't do it. They simply can't afford to take a risk. They're that bad. So they go with the guy with tape, the guy who can block and has an nfl body rather than the junior QB (remember last two QBs they've taken high) or the potential (well it's the lions so that doesn't ever come true and justin smith's a converted TE with essentially one season of experience) and go with the guy who's ready to go, the guy who relegated Brandon Albert to guard two years ago.