NEW! Irish Multimarathon 2009

eoin ryan

Hi All,

New one for ye.... The Irish Multimarathon 2009, Dublin 28th June
www.irishmultimarathon.com

This year it will only be a Half marathon and Half marathon Relay. Next year we will have the Full marathon....
(yes -it still appears on the website)

The Kids multimarathon website will be live soon. Makes it a nice family day out.

We will be doing a tie in with a Charity - will be confirming this shortly.

Something new eh?!

rainbow kirby

*strokes chin*

Have to say, I like the idea of a nice coastal run in late June - assuming the weather doesn't suck!

eoin ryan

We had a tough winter so fingers crossed it will be a nice Summer. We deserve it after all this bad weather / bad news Season.....

Confirmed - the associated Charity is Focus Ireland for the 2009 Irish Multimaraton.

thirtyfoot

Do you have a permit for this event? Just wondering.

eoin ryan

Yes we have permission and we will apply for the permit in due course

Krusty_Clown

Sounds good Eoin, and at a more reasonable price point too. How many people are you limiting this to? Will numbers will be lower, due to the sand, narrow bridges etc?

jlang

Is a multimarathon not running multiple marathons, as in some kind of ultra challenge? I suspect it's just branding but how does adding a relay option to a half marathon make it "multi"? Is it because you may run a full marathon next year as well?

I've never run on sand - is it more difficult, or just different to other surfaces?

Do you have to time the race to match the tide to make sure there's hard sand to run on or is the race through the soft stuff higher on the beach?

eoin ryan

Good points. This is a new course and a lot of things had to be checked from a lot of parties and permission sought in advance. Numbers will be capped at 2,000

The Bridge will be temp closed by the Gardai to allow 'the herd' of runners to cross over. On the way back they will be on the paths as they will have thined out by then.

The tides on the beach have been checked. Many who have done the 3D Aquathalons will know that the sand remains solid underfooth. People will be running in this zone. There is a very wide span on the beach for runners. The council will also be using their machines to make any alterations.

Multimarathon is a Branding name. Indeed, if the full was included it would make more sense. Its too late now to have the full. I don't think there would be many takers.....

Krusty_Clown

The timing isn't great for a full though, is it? The week after Cork (full and full-relay), and Edinburgh, but it is good timing for those who have completed the half in Wexford/Connemara to progress to the full. I couldn't see myself doing the full, as I'd prefer to visit a new city and/or enjoy a new experience, and the idea of laps isn't very appealing, but will definitely do the half some time.

Congrats by the way on reaching capacity for Wexford. Looking forward to the event.

hawkwing

I don't think the full would appeal to me but the half definitely.It's the week before achill so would be a good warm up for that and there is not too many 10m about Dublin in the summer.

eoin ryan

It will be interesting to see what numbers the full will get in 2010..... I'll be just as curious.
What might get poeple going is a possibility of PB in a full marathon. The course is the flatest I've ever ran so it could in theory be fast!
Anyhoo, I'm surmising. Lets go with the Half and see what happens
Its a new course to play with

shels4ever

eoin ryan wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what numbers the full will get in 2010..... I'll be just as curious.
What might get poeple going is a possibility of PB in a full marathon. The course is the flatest I've ever ran so it could in theory be fast!
Anyhoo, I'm surmising. Lets go with the Half and see what happens
Its a new course to play with

Used to train here myself, this could be a fast course once the wind isnt too bad on the day. Might do this myself.

Peckham

May run the half this year, but don't think the full would have much interest for me personally. Although the PB possibility would make it interesting - however it would have to have AIMS-association so it would be recognised for qualification times for Boston, New York etc.

eoin ryan

Hi Peckham,

We'll aim to have that AIMS sorted for next year in the FUll.

This year we are gonna be just a Half marathon and a half relay....
Sure how bad?!

E

eoin ryan

Many thanks to ALL the ppl who notified me about the slight glitch on Active Europe. It has been sorted! Things are back to normal and entires are coming in again

I know a lot of ye are on the Boards so this is a quick way to get the msg out...

Happy Training
(The weather has been great for it lately... Wish I could get out in it )

Eoin

RacoonQueen

Might give it a go if I'm not doing the Achill half.

rdunne

eoin ryan wrote: »

Hi All,

New one for ye.... The Irish Multimarathon 2009, Dublin 28th June
www.irishmultimarathon.com

This year it will only be a Half marathon and Half marathon Relay. Next year we will have the Full marathon....
(yes -it still appears on the website)

The Kids multimarathon website will be live soon. Makes it a nice family day out.

We will be doing a tie in with a Charity - will be confirming this shortly.

Something new eh?!

Seems like a good one. Should be interested in seeing the numbers for the full next year.

Can i be bold and ask why your running it. We have races most weeks and as some one else has said its busy at that time of year. Are you running it as part of a club or what?
just asking!!

eoin ryan

Its gonna suit some ppls race training programmes and it ain't gonna suit others... No doubt. The advent of extra races means the runners have greater flexibility to peak at different times of year for races home and abroad. Been there myself - as some might remember....

Now... (says he smiling) as he realises that a race organiser is asking a race organiser 'why is he running it...?' The irony of it all...

I think it will add to good work that you guys have been doing over the years and having a new location might stimulate more (new) ppl to get active and get involved. Our sport is growing!
Plus it gives a platform for the Kids Mobile marathon. This has great potential to give kids an incentive to become active (more) active. Should be open soon....

thirtyfoot

eoin ryan wrote: »

Plus it gives a platform for the Kids Mobile marathon. This has great potential to give kids an incentive to become active (more) active. Should be open soon....

Whats the Kids Mobile Marathon? Is it like the Little Athletics program?

shels4ever

Tingle wrote: »

Whats the Kids Mobile Marathon? Is it like the Little Athletics program?

http://www.kidsmobilemarathon.com/home.html

eoin ryan

Aye. The gist of it is the same.... Encourage kids to get active.

I'll summerise: The kids walk or run 40km in advance of turning up at the Irish Multimarathon. For example: in the 8 weeks leading up to it they could do 5km a week = 40km.
Their parent/ guardian will tick the sheet to verify they have done it. They bring this to registration on the Sunday and collect all the addtional stuff.

So when they finish the last 2km+ they will receive a medal and a cert to say they completed the Kids Mobile Marathon.
It gives them a Goal to focus on a and a Reward for achieving it.
There is more detail on the website www.kidsmobilemarathon.com

By the by as its new - if anyone has any suggestions about how we could add to it please pitch in..... 'Many heads make great ideas'
Our motto is - Mol an oige agus tiochaidh sí
Remember that one from school.....

Stupid_Private

eoin ryan wrote: »

Its gonna suit some ppls race training programmes and it ain't gonna suit others... No doubt. The advent of extra races means the runners have greater flexibility to peak at different times of year for races home and abroad. Been there myself - as some might remember....

Too true - the more races the better. If there's space on a calendar then it's not too busy. Although it seems more and more half marathons and marathons are appearing about the place rather than shorter distances such as 5 mile or 10km. Come on race organisers out there I'm looking for races and struggling at the moment! The only race I can find for the weekends of 11th April or 18th April less than 10k is in Armagh.

shels4ever

eoin ryan wrote: »

Aye. The gist of it is the same.... Encourage kids to get active.

I'll summerise: The kids walk or run 40km in advance of turning up at the Irish Multimarathon. For example: in the 8 weeks leading up to it they could do 5km a week = 40km.
Their parent/ guardian will tick the sheet to verify they have done it. They bring this to registration on the Sunday and collect all the addtional stuff.

So when they finish the last 2km+ they will receive a medal and a cert to say they completed the Kids Mobile Marathon.
It gives them a Goal to focus on a and a Reward for achieving it.
There is more detail on the website www.kidsmobilemarathon.com

By the by as its new - if anyone has any suggestions about how we could add to it please pitch in..... 'Many heads make great ideas'
Our motto is - Mol an oige agus tiochaidh sí
Remember that one from school.....

Have you linked in with any junior clubs or other races ? Getting a sort of grand prix for kids or something, anything that gets kids running is good in my books , only think I woulndt like to see is kids starting it late and trying to make up 20-30 k in the last 2 week.. I guess parents need to consent on the forms?

thirtyfoot

shels4ever wrote: »

Have you linked in with any junior clubs or other races ? Getting a sort of grand prix for kids or something, anything that gets kids running is good in my books , only think I woulndt like to see is kids starting it late and trying to make up 20-30 k in the last 2 week.. I guess parents need to consent on the forms?

There is a Little Athletics program which is linked in with clubs. I have seen this in action and it's excellent. Works on the functional and alround development of young kids and gets them working on stuff which when we were younger took for granted. You would be surprised how unco-ordinated some kids are.

While the mobile marathon idea is good if it gets kids active I would be much prefer them to be doing the more dynamic and fun stuff like Little Athletics or Sportshall than having little 'uns doing 2k or even 1k runs. Suppose it depends on each's perspective on things but I hate seeing little kids slogging around a field or worse slogging along a road. They never look like they are enjoying it. Slighly off topic!

OP - have you looked at doing a tie in with Little Athletics - its an internationally used best practice model on getting kids active?

eoin ryan

Yea the little athletics is the one that will come to most ppls mind in Athletics. Good programme. I don't see us doing a tie in for now - we need to get established first. Anything that gets the kids outdoors doing a bit of exercise and achieving realistic Goals has a lot of merit.

Interestingly it was said to me by a few running fellas (who have been there and done that over the years) that the kids mobile may even get the parents/ guardian involved in the training with child...
A parent/ guardian is allowed to do the last 2km and accompany the child at the Irish Multimarathon. So this time its a role reversal - instead of the Parents bringing the kids over the line as you see in IM's and marathons. Its the kids turn. They are the main act....

adog

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eoin ryan wrote: »

Good points. This is a new course and a lot of things had to be checked from a lot of parties and permission sought in advance. Numbers will be capped at 2,000

The Bridge will be temp closed by the Gardai to allow 'the herd' of runners to cross over. On the way back they will be on the paths as they will have thined out by then.

The tides on the beach have been checked. Many who have done the 3D Aquathalons will know that the sand remains solid underfooth. People will be running in this zone. There is a very wide span on the beach for runners. The council will also be using their machines to make any alterations.

Multimarathon is a Branding name. Indeed, if the full was included it would make more sense. Its too late now to have the full. I don't think there would be many takers.....

OK: 1) The website says that the max number of runners will be 1000; above you say 2000 (?). 2) I train along this route all of the time; to imply that once the 'herd' of runners has passed, there is no need for a Garda closure is a bit Alice in Wonderland; what do you mean exactly by 'on the way back they will be on the paths as they will have thined [sic] out by then.' Are you, for example, properly familiar with the paths adjacent to the Clontarf Road? The Clontarf Road can be quite danegerous (there was a fatality only two weeks ago). I just want to be clear: is this a half-marathon that is being run inches away from the Clontarf Road's zooming traffic? or are you going to adhere to proper international standards and have full road closures? Will the Causeway be closed to traffic (its paths are narrow, bordered by overgrown banks of grass, and usually have areas that are covered by glass splinters). The portion of the course from the top of the Causeway out to Kilbarrack and back - is this to be run on the parallel cycle track, on the narrow adjoining paths or roads with traffic on them?
Undoubtedly, your intentions are admirable. However, and unfortunately, your website is somewhat opaque. I live in Clontarf, and don't want to see what is a great running route marred by inefficient organisation. Please clarify the situation. I really want to run the half, for this to become an established annual event, and for next year's proposed full marathon to attract international participants; by asking these questions, I'm not being critical, rather inquisitive. Adog

eoin ryan

Well adog,

You've asked some questions and made some statements... No harm in being critical or inquisitive. Lets take a look from the top

Point 1 - the numbers. They were reduced since that post back in March. I thought the wording was clear on the website. Maybe not

The Gardai are very clear on what and where and when they will be closing and how the sequence of things take place - they sit in on the meetings. There is no mention on the website of runners going on the outside footpaths....?! Part of the causeway will be closed yes - the left hand side as you look down it.
Appreciate the advice on the broken glass - i will have it checked that morning. Good tip - i hadn't seen any on my visits.

Hope that addresses things

Eoin

adog

''There is no mention on the website of runners going on the outside footpaths....?!''

- Of course not! and I never said there was; I was wondering if parts of the Clontarf Road still playing host to runners engaged in the event will, at any time, be concurrently open to traffic and event participants during the Irish Multimarathon?

You could have clarified this by simply responding that at no time will event participants be compelled to run solely on footpaths inches away from the Clontarf Road's zooming traffic, that at all times during the event there will be a Garda-enforced traffic cordon protecting participants, and that at no time will runners be left unnecessarily exposed (?).

''Part of the causeway will be closed yes - the left hand side as you look down it.''

- The entire left side (encompassing traffic lane) I presume for the entire duration of the event (homebound as well as outward legs?), yes?

many thanks for your help, with admiration for your efforts, Adog

wizwill

adog,

i would like to add my two cents, whilst clontarf road is indeed very dangerous, (in fact i ran past the accident scene you mention on it several weeks back, terrible tragedy). I took part in Eoin's Wexford half marathon a few weeks back and he done a great job in organising it, went like clockwork and was a great day. My only two complaints would be it was marked in kilometers and was described as "undulating" which may have been the case if i was a sherpa!, anyway as you can see, minor complaints.

Not sure if i will be doing the multimarathon as its on the same weekend as dunshaughlin 10k. That said its a lovely flat course, perfect chance of a pb.

will

eoin ryan

Thanks for vote of confidence Will. Appreciate it

Adog - the safety of the race is a primary concern for me, Dublin City Council the Gardai and the list goes on from there.... We have a 22 page Event Management plan and an 18 page risk assessment. I appreciate your concerns but that level of detail is not normally posted on any website (no matter what event) - so therefore it doesn't feature.

The runners will not be on the Clontarf road.
The section of the causeway for runners will be closed out and back
Stewards will be on site to implement the plan

Eoin

Dagnabit

I’ve just registered. Looks like the perfect antidote to last weeks hillfest in Bantry.

fintonagirl

Hi sorry if I missed it on the website but wondering for the relay is there transport laid on between the different points?

belcarra

So what's the latest on this half mara...anyone on for doing it??
It's creeping up at this stage (Just over a week away now!).
Thinking of doing it as a prep run for Achill just to get a race distance into me before the main event...

Krusty_Clown

belcarra wrote: »

So what's the latest on this half mara...anyone on for doing it??
It's creeping up at this stage (Just over a week away now!).
Thinking of doing it as a prep run for Achill just to get a race distance into me before the main event...

I ran the route last weekend with a friend of mine, who's going to run the race in a couple of weeks. Found the 3 miles of sand quite tough going (1.45 on the way out and the same on the way back), particularly on the quads and calf muscles. On the return leg you hit the sand at mile 9. Something else to watch out for, if it's a windy day, you'll get hit hard as it's extremely open. Extremely flat course though. A couple of kerbs to mount and that's about it!

Abhainn

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I ran the route last weekend with a friend of mine, who's going to run the race in a couple of weeks. Found the 3 miles of sand quite tough going (1.45 on the way out and the same on the way back), particularly on the quads and calf muscles. On the return leg you hit the sand at mile 9. Something else to watch out for, if it's a windy day, you'll get hit hard as it's extremely open. Extremely flat course though. A couple of kerbs to mount and that's about it!

Ahhh ! I was hoping the sand would not slow me down too much on the day.
I assume then the sand was not tightly packed?

christeb

It's not great to run on, tightly packed-ish at the shoreline but with the crowds on the day it mightn't be too easy...
Also the whole route is very exposed, let's hope the wind isn't too out there.

rainbow kirby

Hm, this sand thing is worrying me a little...

christeb

I'm wondering how much time I can "add" onto my goal time to account for the sand. 3.5 mi total, so maybe 2 minutes or so - I was originally going for ca. 1.33 - so would it be reasonable to maybe go for 1.35??

Krusty_Clown

Abhainn wrote: »

Ahhh ! I was hoping the sand would not slow me down too much on the day.
I assume then the sand was not tightly packed?

I think Eoin was planning and having a roller drive across the sand for the day to make it more hard-packed, so that may help. We ran close to the dunes on the way out, and close to the shore on the way back. Didn't slow me down much, just hurt a lot more particularly coming after 9 miles.

rainbow kirby

With that much sand, is it worthwhile wearing old shoes?

Bobby04

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Hm, this sand thing is worrying me a little...

+1

Krusty_Clown

Here's the route in Garmin Connect. I was pacing a buddy for the first 9 miles (10m/m) and then stretched the legs for the last couple of miles. The sand isn't that bad, but if you're nervous about it, why not give it a try beforehand.

I'm still tossing around the idea of doing the race on the day, but waiting to make sure the recovery is complete.

rainbow kirby

^^ Your link is asking for a login.

Krusty_Clown

rainbow kirby wrote: »

^^ Your link is asking for a login.

Really? Is it still looking for a login?

rainbow kirby

It's not asking for a login now.

eoin ryan

Hi All,

In relation to the sand - you won't be running up near the dunes. That is soft sand territory.

When the tide goes out there is a sweet spot along the shore that is much more solid underfoot. We will direct you towards this.

The Council machine will be doing a job on the beach that morning to manicure it.

Eoin

Oisin11178

Im signed up for this 1, ill see you guys there. ran part of the route yesterday and it was very windy.

Oryx

Apologies if there is another thread on this run.

Im signed up to do it, and need to drive myself to the venue. I realise they are trying to get people there via public transport, but thats not an option. Anyone here familiar with the area that could advise me on the best place to park my car? Im not pming or emailing Eoin, as Id say he is inundated with queries right now.

Traveling up the coast road from the south east if anyone wants a lift.


*I only realised the other day half of this event is run on sand!

DublinDilbert

Oryx wrote: »

Apologies if there is another thread on this run.

Im signed up to do it, and need to drive myself to the venue. I realise they are trying to get people there via public transport, but thats not an option. Anyone here familiar with the area that could advise me on the best place to park my car? Im not pming or emailing Eoin, as Id say he is inundated with queries right now.

Traveling up the coast road from the south east if anyone wants a lift.


*I only realised the other day half of this event is run on sand!

Maybe park in bray (or somewhere over that direction) and take the dart over to contarf?

Krusty_Clown

Oryx wrote: »

Apologies if there is another thread on this run.

Im signed up to do it, and need to drive myself to the venue. I realise they are trying to get people there via public transport, but thats not an option. Anyone here familiar with the area that could advise me on the best place to park my car? Im not pming or emailing Eoin, as Id say he is inundated with queries right now.

Traveling up the coast road from the south east if anyone wants a lift.


*I only realised the other day half of this event is run on sand!

Only 3 miles out of 13 miles is on sand. Having been at the start last week, I can tell you there is sod all parking. If you're travelling from the south, I'd advise you to park at Booterstown Dart station car-park and get the Dart to Clontarf. Or else, get there early, and there's a couple of small car-parks near the start.

Magnet

I`m doing this and toying with the idea of driving up in the morning so far..
I`ll probably get the car clamped somewhere but sure why not..
What time is the race start? I cannot find my confirmation email if I got one?!? Turn up for registration betwwen 8.20-10am I suppose and take it from there...
So who else is doing it?
Tea and buns after anyone??
Shandy?:D