Cullen trip cost €8,130!!

skelliser

On Joe Duffy just now.
Liveline but a request into the air corp to find out how much cullens spin in the garda helicopter cost.
Up until the door falling off the 2 hour trip had cost 8,130!

Price of return train ticket Dublin to Killarney -56.00euro

THIS IS YOUR TAX MONEY THESE CLOWNS ARE WASTING!!

SV

Newsflash: Politicians are wasting our money!

Professey Chin

ClioV6 wrote: »

Newsflash: Politicians are wasting our money!

In other news: Rain is wet

Except that frozen rain stuff

phasers

OH MY GOD

SoupyNorman

Bring back the angry mob.

Darragh29

skelliser wrote: »

On Joe Duffy just now.
Liveline but a request into the air corp to find out how much cullens spin in the garda helicopter cost.
Up until the door falling off the 2 hour trip had cost 8,130!

Pity the seat he was sitting on was not attached to the door.

CJhaughey

It's only a pity he didn't follow the door.
He is as much use.

SoupyNorman

CJhaughey wrote: »

It's only a pity he didn't follow the door.
He is as much use.

Doors are very useful I find.

Darragh29

He probably bored the door off it's hinges. I'd say the door go so sick of listening to him it took one look down onto the field below and decided to take it's chances...

FlutterinBantam

Fact: It costs almost as much to keep a chopper on the ground as it does in the air.Only main difference is the fuel and some other incidentals such as positioning to base etc. These flts can also be used for training purposes, and would probably have to be flown anyway.

If you REALLY want to save costs, scrap the Air Corps altogether.

Not for a second backing up the politicians,but those costs are way out of line.

connundrum

Meh, he needed to get somewhere in a hurry.

Cleary the ministerial Ferrari Enzo was in use elsewhere.

Sizzler

When is the revolution ?

Cuddlesworth

Sizzler wrote: »

When is the revolution ?

Tuesday the tenth, we haven't decided on the time.

mike65

He could have caught a scheduled plane from Farranfore an hour after he left.

cornbb

The funny thing is, the angry Joe Duffy/After Hours mob will have forgotten about this within days. Ministerial air travel is one of these cyclical things that people like to get angry about once in a while and forget about for the rest of the time (usually concerns the government jet but this case is similar). Kinda like a menstrual cycle. The government surely know that this "outrage" will blow over, as always, so why would they give a crap what we have to say now? They must have an awfully good laugh at us.

ixoy

Maybe after this, the deniers will finally think:

"Hell! I 'copt 'er wastin' me money."

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Why did the minister have to be there in person, why can they not use telecommunications? I rather see them spend 8K on a good screen and camera. Was the minister needed in person?

thelordofcheese

Elijah Modern Twin wrote: »

Why did the minister have to be there in person, why can they not use telecommunications? I rather see them spend 8K on a good screen and camera. Was the minister needed in person?

And if they did that, people whould whine that they just sit in their offices and never go to meet the people.

basically, it doesn't matter what the government does, there will be a baying crowd of cretins ready to shout loudly about it.

ejmaztec

thelordofcheese wrote: »

And if they did that, people whould whine that they just sit in their offices and never go to meet the people.

basically, it doesn't matter what the government does, there will be a baying crowd of cretins ready to shout loudly about it.

The cretins won't complain - because they voted for them.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

thelordofcheese wrote: »

And if they did that, people whould whine that they just sit in their offices and never go to meet the people.

basically, it doesn't matter what the government does, there will be a baying crowd of cretins ready to shout loudly about it.

It would make more sence to purchase something that can be used over and over... The car and the driver are still being payed for while he takes his flight... I never understood why they couldn't drive themselves.

Now I have no problem having flights being payed for, but reasonable flight prices. 8 thousand euro to get from dublin to kerry... think about it.

Borneo Fnctn

The trip cost 8130? But that's 8130 more than what Cullen is worth!

thelordofcheese

Elijah Modern Twin wrote: »

It would make more sence to purchase something that can be used over and over... The car and the driver are still being payed for while he takes his flight... I never understood why they couldn't drive themselves.

Now I have no problem having flights being payed for, but reasonable flight prices. 8 thousand euro to get from dublin to kerry... think about it.

Helicopters are specialised modes of transport, and expensive in comparison to the train, or a car.
But they are also more flexible, secure and quicker than anything else i can think of.

The helicopter is there for exactly these kinds of things, why shouldn't it be used? As someone else pointed out it costs nearly the same to keep the thing on the ground so what exactly is the issue here? That a government minister used a government resource? Really?

So can i just take it that this thread in a sentance would be- "people display shock that things cost money" because that's all i'm seeing.

Borneo Fnctn

Martin Cullen on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Cullen

"In 2009 he fell out of a helicopter and banged his head."

It wasn't me.

Mena

jackpalance wrote: »

Martin Cullen on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Cullen

"In 2009 he fell out of a helicopter and banged his head."

It wasn't me.

That gave me a wry smile

lucylu

what was he doing in Killarney ??
dusting down his beloved voting machines in some warehouse somewhere :rolleyes:

dodgyme

lucylu wrote: »

what was he doing in Killarney ??
dusting down his beloved voting machines in some warehouse somewhere :rolleyes:

or meeting monica for a pint

ejmaztec

dodgyme wrote: »

or meeting monica for a pint

< Insert gratuitous chopper quip here>

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Helicopters are specialised modes of transport, and expensive in comparison to the train, or a car.
But they are also more flexible, secure and quicker than anything else i can think of.

The helicopter is there for exactly these kinds of things, why shouldn't it be used? As someone else pointed out it costs nearly the same to keep the thing on the ground so what exactly is the issue here? That a government minister used a government resource? Really?

So can i just take it that this thread in a sentance would be- "people display shock that things cost money" because that's all i'm seeing.

What was so important that he needed a huge expence like this? He couldn't have drove down? Got the train? He could have even taken a flight.

This is not an issue of security and keeping our ministers safe. If it one rule for the people and another for it's rulers, who are not doing a whole lot at the moment.

There are alternative transport methods available that would not cost as much, there are also other methods of holding meetings that would cost a lot less in the long run.

The money is being squandered. It is a complete joke. The government are telling us that we need to take pay cuts, that taxes will be raised, yet they are doing nothing to reduce their own personal expences within the government? Hypocricy? I think so.

There is no two ways about it. The expence was needless.

Who ever said that a grounded chopper costs the same as a chopper in flight is talking through their ass. Yes the crew get paid regardless, but they would be on other duties, training exercises or the likes. Using an expensive resource like this, as a mode of transport for a minister, is a complete and utter waste of money.

What was so urgent that he had to go to Kerry anyway? Could he not have left the night before? Could he not have left earlier? I am sure he wasn't on the brink of anything major that he had to use such expenses...

The fact of the matter is, we cannot afford this now, why is it still continuing?

Biggins

When is the revolution ?

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Tuesday the tenth, we haven't decided on the time.

Make it between 9am and 7pm.

They will be either eating, drinking or sleeping in those hours - nothing else!

Míshásta

No doubt he'll top the poll again in Waterford.

Waterford people, shur God help us.

senordingdong

A return train ticket to Killarney costs HOW MUCH!?!?

Mrmoe

All I want to know is who screwed up. I did my part by loosening the door hinges enough, who forgot to push him out? Do you know how long we will have to wait for another opportunity? damn you to hell:mad:. Back to my underground planning bunker I go.

PeakOutput

skelliser wrote: »

On Joe Duffy just now.

sorry couldnt force myself to read past that line

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

Make it between 9am and 7pm.

They will be either eating, drinking, sleeping, or sh1tting on people in those hours - nothing else!

fyp

ScumLord

I don't see a huge problem here, if the helichopter is costing money either way and the minister needs to be somewhere then that's what it's there for. As long as it was necessary I'd have no problem with it. It could have wasted a whole day using a car.

yop

I didnt see him getting a chopper down to Waterford Crystal when it was announced they were closing.

He is just another ganster in the shower of gansters who run (into the ground) our country. Useless pri*ks

AircraftTechie

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see a huge problem here, if the helichopter is costing money either way and the minister needs to be somewhere then that's what it's there for.

No, this is a big problem it's a Military chopper belonging to The Irish Air Corps AW139 fleet which main roles are Army Support/General Utility/Military Transport and Air Ambulance, these should not be used as a "Taxi" service for a Minister.

ScumLord wrote: »

As long as it was necessary I'd have no problem with it. It could have wasted a whole day using a car.

This was not necessary, he could have flown Ryanair, if Gordon Brown can fly British Airways.....Also whats worse is the fact a second AW139 was on Training in Cork and was DIVERTED from Training to pick up this fool. What a waste of Taxpayers money and valuable Military Training time.

ejmaztec

yop wrote: »

I didnt see him getting a chopper down to Waterford Crystal when it was announced they were closing.

He is just another ganster in the shower of gansters who run (into the ground) our country. Useless pri*ks

There he got chopper and axe mixed up.:(

Guy:Incognito

yop wrote: »

I didnt see him getting a chopper down to Waterford Crystal when it was announced they were closing.

He is just another ganster in the shower of gansters who run (into the ground) our country. Useless pri*ks

Are gansters bad people of some sort?



This is another moutain out of a molehill for the idiots to rile themselves up about.

Sofiztikated

Rabble rabble rabble.
What are ya's going to do? Nothing but moan.

FlutterinBantam

AircraftTechie wrote: »

No, this is a big problem it's a Military chopper belonging to The Irish Air Corps AW139 fleet which main roles are Army Support/General Utility/Military Transport and Air Ambulance, these should not be used as a "Taxi" service for a Minister.




.

Right, they should be deployed shooting down ICBMs then, and supporting the Army in what currently dangerous situation exactly

Valmont

I saw this story this morning and said to myself "I bet some righteously indignant citizen will moan about the minister flying in a helicopter on after hours later". 100 points for me.

Who gives a flying fuck. I dislike the recession mainly because of the unprecedented levels of whinging. Goodness gracious me:rolleyes:

DonJose

Stekelly wrote: »

This is another moutain out of a molehill for the idiots to rile themselves up about.

Come back and say that when your taxes are increased by another 5%+ and half your family are on the dole. The wastage has to stop, if anybody hasn't noticed, all the celtic tiger borrowed money is gone.

Sir Oxman

Stekelly wrote: »

Are gansters bad people of some sort?



This is another moutain out of a molehill for the idiots to rile themselves up about.

Are you for real?

There's a whole lot of molehills making up one big fcukoff mountain of discontent and idiots like this Cullen guy and his apologists will get their comeuppance, one way or another.

thelordofcheese

DonJose wrote: »

Come back and say that when your taxes are increased by another 5%+ and half your family are on the dole. The wastage has to stop, if anybody hasn't noticed, all the celtic tiger borrowed money is gone.

I think you're overestimating how much a helicopter costs to run, by a smidgen

thelordofcheese

Elijah Modern Twin wrote: »

WHHHIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEE

There, much better.

but on one point

Elijah Modern Twin wrote: »

I am sure he wasn't on the brink of anything major that he had to use such expenses...

really, how sure are you?
because i'm pretty sure you've no clue at all. Then again neither do i, but it's lazy and pathetic to simply assume that every politician does nothing but find new ways to piss off the mob of window lickers in AH. I mean, i know if you do it means you fit in better, but still.

Not all politicians are liars and crooks, not all actions are dishonest and not all expenses are lacking in justification, contrary to popular belief.
Anyone who says otherwise is being stupidly cynical.

spadder

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I think you're overestimating how much a helicopter costs to run, by a smidgen

+quangos
+semi states
+public service pay
+bank bail outs
+senate
+TD's "expenses"
+Pensions
+Tribunals
+health service
+education
+ Misc
= A Big fcuking hole

thelordofcheese

spadder wrote: »

+quangos
+semi states
+public service pay
+bank bail outs
+senate
+TD's "expenses"
+Pensions
+Tribunals
+health service
+education
+ Misc
= A Big fcuking hole

Your grasp of all matters financial is truely staggering.

And i like how things like "pensions", "health care", "education" are apparently bad now....

AircraftTechie

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Right, they should be deployed shooting down ICBMs then, and supporting the Army in what currently dangerous situation exactly

Sir, dont be so stupid, a helicopter shooting down an ICBM, what do you mean a dangerous situation it's vital training with Helicopters especially if you are in the Military. I didnt mention a dangerous situation or that they were with the Army when the second helicopter was diverted, the fact of the matter is that it's a Military Helicopter that should be used for Military purposes be it training with the Army or whatever it needs to do at a certain time it should not perform as a Taxi service to a Minister.

spadder

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Your grasp of all matters financial is truely staggering.

And i like how things like "pensions", "health care", "education" are apparently bad now....

Are you a FFer?
I seem to have a better grasp than the government.
The way these services are managed are dire.

Sleipnir

Well I'd protest but.....it's raining. And cold too.

Ministers have been flying around like this for a long time. They know that while people don't like it, they won't remember it next week.