Best Irish Recording Engineer/Producers

PaulBrewer

There's some many people at it now SOME of them must be good?

Honorable mention to Phil Hayes, Chris O'Brien and Tim Martin - they've all made great sounding records.

Who do you think is good or great? Perhaps mention some bands they've done.

DamagedTrax

tim martin, tony perry, marc carolyn.

and of course ger mcdonnell - his work with the cure is outstanding.

PaulBrewer

Never heard anything Marc recorded - what did he do?

DamagedTrax

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Never heard anything Marc recorded - what did he do?

he recorded us years ago, aswell as all the "dead elvis records" releases (and half the irish indie scene in the 90's!!)

but its his live stuff im giving him props for (muse and the likes)

PaulBrewer

Actually never heard anything Tony did either, well not I'm aware?

PaulBrewer

DamagedTrax wrote: »

he recorded us years ago but its his live stuff im giving him props for (muse and the likes)

Ah yes, he's doing The Cure now too.

I should have specified, Recording Engineers/Producers.

DamagedTrax

a lot of the stuff recorded in pulse probably had his hand on it at some stage i reckon. AFAIK he's more producer than engineer though.

most excellant musician too. played with andrew strong's band amongst others.

DamagedTrax

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I should have specified, Recording Engineers/Producers.

well he was a recoding engineer for years so i guess it counts?

Ah yes, he's doing The Cure now too.

fukin cnuting bastad grrr.. still though, jealous as i am, props to him. muse have a HUGE sound and if he can do that for bob smith and the boys they'll be onto a winner.

stereo_steve

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I should have specified, Recording Engineers/Producers.

Recording Engineers? As a real engineer this bothers me. An engineer is someone with a degree in engineering. Someone with a good understanding of mathematics and science. You can't just add engineer to a job title to make it sound better.

Whats next? Recording scientist? Recording doctor? Recording architect?

PaulBrewer

stereo_steve wrote: »

Recording Engineers? As a real engineer this bothers me. An engineer is someone with a degree in engineering. Someone with a good understanding of mathematics and science. You can't just add engineer to a job title to make it sound better.

Whats next? Recording scientist? Recording doctor? Recording architect?

I don't understand your grievance Steve?

I just added the 'Recording' Prefix to differentiate from Live guys.

The term Recording Engineer is an industry standard description.

It's to studio work my question relates.

TelePaul

Paul Brewer.

DamagedTrax

stereo_steve wrote: »

Recording Engineers? As a real engineer this bothers me. An engineer is someone with a degree in engineering. Someone with a good understanding of mathematics and science. You can't just add engineer to a job title to make it sound better.

Whats next? Recording scientist? Recording doctor? Recording architect?

erm what?

correct me if im wrong but a sound "engineer" who records bands is a sound "engineer" or is the term solely for people with degrees in civil, electronics etc etc?
when i get my higher diploma in sound "engineering and music production will that not mean im an "engineer"?

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

Paul Brewer.

TelePaul

stereo_steve wrote: »

Someone with a good understanding of mathematics and science.

Fair amount of science in recording music.

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Wait, sorry, forgot...you're second to DaDumTish.

DamagedTrax

TelePaul wrote: »

Fair amount of science in recording music.

ahh sure isnt calculating standing waves just primary school stuff

PaulBrewer

DamagedTrax wrote: »

tim martin, tony perry, marc carolyn.

and of course ger mcdonnell - his work with the cure is outstanding.

Yes, Ger too. Though all I've heard of his work is The Aftermath's album.

What Cure did he do?

DamagedTrax

bloodflowers when he was working with paul corkett as far as i remember?

stereo_steve

DamagedTrax wrote: »

erm what?

correct me if im wrong but a sound "engineer" who records bands is a sound "engineer" or is the term solely for people with degrees in civil, electronics etc etc?
when i get my higher diploma in sound "engineering and music production will that not mean im an "engineer"?

Exactly. All the disciplines you mention above are not engineers but technicians if they have a diploma. Look at any of the main colleges in Ireland/World.

Look, i'm sorry to come in here trolling but I saw the thread on the main page. It seems like loads of people are calling themselves engineers these days and it completely devalues engineering courses when the public start to associate technicians etc as engineers.

An engineer in Ireland is someone that can be approved by http://www.engineersireland.ie/ . Its as simple as that. People in the music industry can be very talented. Far more talented than me. But they are simply not engineers. They are completely different. They are music producers. A very good profession to be in, I just don't know why people are calling themselves engineers when they are not.

TelePaul

Back on topic, as for producers - in the truest sense - Phil Coulter?

PaulBrewer

stereo_steve wrote: »

People in the music industry can be very talented. Far more talented than me. But they are simply not engineers. They are completely different. They are music producers. A very good profession to be in, I just don't know why people are calling themselves engineers when they are not.

Stereo, have you any link with the music biz at all?

Recording Engineers as a term is the industry standard since recording began!

It refer , correctly as you describe, the technical side of recording.

The term Producer, within music, often refers to the creative side.

Those are Industry Standard terms and always have been.

PaulBrewer

stereo_steve wrote: »

it completely devalues engineering courses when the public start to associate technicians etc as engineers.

The public, in my opinion, couldn't give a feck!;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_engineering

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_producer

DamagedTrax

stereo_steve wrote: »

They are music producers. A very good profession to be in, I just don't know why people are calling themselves engineers when they are not.

ok crazy person, you obviously know best :cool:

the entire recording industry has gotten it wrong for years on end. thank you for pointing out the mistake of millions of industry pros worldwide. you are to be commended.

moving on...

dav nagle

stereo_steve wrote: »

Exactly. All the disciplines you mention above are not engineers but technicians if they have a diploma. Look at any of the main colleges in Ireland/World.

Look, i'm sorry to come in here trolling but I saw the thread on the main page. It seems like loads of people are calling themselves engineers these days and it completely devalues engineering courses when the public start to associate technicians etc as engineers.

An engineer in Ireland is someone that can be approved by http://www.engineersireland.ie/ . Its as simple as that. People in the music industry can be very talented. Far more talented than me. But they are simply not engineers. They are completely different. They are music producers. A very good profession to be in, I just don't know why people are calling themselves engineers when they are not.

Go in and work on a big album and come back and tell me these producers are not engineering SOUND. You are absolutely full of it mate and you clearly know nothing about the reality of recording music. Do you really think that classical orchestral music is not engineered by engineers? An engineer can fix a plane for example yeah? Well as sound engineer can fix sound. Get off your '' I have a Harvard University Mathematical degree in engineering'' high horse.

DamagedTrax

dav nagle wrote: »

Go in and work on a big album and come back and tell me these producers are not engineering SOUND. You are absolutely full of it mate and you clearly know nothing about the reality of recording music. Do you really think that classical orchestral music is not engineered by engineers? An engineer can fix a plane for example yeah? Well as sound engineer can fix sound. Get off your '' I have a Harvard University Mathematical degree in engineering'' high horse.

probably one of those civil engineers, he's pissed off that we're stealing all his thunder and he wants recognition for his city planning abilities.




**this post makes no claims that civil engineers are in anyway involved in city planning. it is purely to raise a smile and highlight my ignorance**

TelePaul

Jesus, and I thought I was this forum's asshole!!!

PaulBrewer

What does everything have to turn into a shouting match?

If you have a point to make make it in a civil fashion - otherwise I'm going to start locking up posts and the place will become very boring.

Stereo Steve is entitled to his (incorrect) opinion.

He's also entitled to be treated in a civil fashion.

DamagedTrax

PaulBrewer wrote: »

What does everything have to turn into a shouting match?

If you have a point to make make it in a civil fashion - otherwise I'm going to start locking up posts and the place will become very boring.

Stereo Steve is entitled to his (incorrect) opinion.

He's also entitled to be treated in a civil fashion.

there was shouting?

DamagedTrax

TelePaul wrote: »

Jesus, and I thought I was this forum's asshole!!!

erm...

PaulBrewer

DamagedTrax wrote: »

there was shouting?

ah , your ears are shot, you've been mixing all day!;)

seannash

PaulBrewer wrote: »

What does everything have to turn into a shouting match?

If you have a point to make make it in a civil fashion - otherwise I'm going to start locking up posts and the place will become very boring.

Stereo Steve is entitled to his (incorrect) opinion.

He's also entitled to be treated in a civil fashion.

your pretty threadlocking happy to be honest man.i dont think we need to be babysat and have threads locked when they show any signs of maybe becoming heated.
now im not questioning your mod skills but the number of locked threads has gone up alot since you got your mod badge.
not trying to be insulting at all just stating:D