Dangerous B*stard

stesaurus

Okay so yesterday I was on the M50 heading north between dundrum and firhouse. Some guy in a red pickup, probably a Hilux, was holding up the overtaking lane.
The driving lane was empty for a considerable distance. I was the second car behind him.
Then the driver in front of me, I think a Scenic, moved into the driving lane. He got fed up of waiting for the other driver to move so he gave up trying to overtake him.
So I'm behind the Hilux with the driving lane empty and wanting to overtake. So I put the indicator on and give him a double flash to get his attention to please move over.
At this point we were going about 80 KPH. He then decides to take offense at me encouraging him to use the correct lane and slams on the brakes! If it wasn't for quick reactions and good brakes he would have caused a major accident.
I was furious! F*cking Dangerous B*stard!
So in a temper I undertake him and drive alongside him and open my window. He actually had the cheek to give out to me saying the speed limit is 60KPH!!!! I gave him a peace of my mind and drove off.
I couldn't believe wht had happened. First of all he was speeding himself so what kind of defense is that? Second of all holding up the overtaking lane is far more dangerous than speeding on a motorway. Finally f*cking slamming on brakes at that speed could have killed me, my passengers and caused a huge pile-up!

I seriously still can't believe it happened! Anyway just a warning if you come across this guy!

Bandara

s.welstead wrote: »

Okay so yesterday I was on the M50 heading north between dundrum and firhouse. Some guy in a red pickup, probably a Hilux, was holding up the overtaking lane.
The driving lane was empty for a considerable distance. I was the second car behind him.
Then the driver in front of me, I think a Scenic, moved into the driving lane. He got fed up of waiting for the other driver to move so he gave up trying to overtake him.
So I'm behind the Hilux with the driving lane empty and wanting to overtake. So I put the indicator on and give him a double flash to get his attention to please move over.
At this point we were going about 80 KPH. He then decides to take offense at me encouraging him to use the correct lane and slams on the brakes! If it wasn't for quick reactions and good brakes he would have caused a major accident.
I was furious! F*cking Dangerous B*stard!
So in a temper I undertake him and drive alongside him and open my window. He actually had the cheek to give out to me saying the speed limit is 60KPH!!!! I gave him a peace of my mind and drove off.
I couldn't believe wht had happened. First of all he was speeding himself so what kind of defense is that? Second of all holding up the overtaking lane is far more dangerous than speeding on a motorway. Finally f*cking slamming on brakes at that speed could have killed me, my passengers and caused a huge pile-up!

I seriously still can't believe it happened! Anyway just a warning if you come across this guy!

he is right though, the limit is 60 isn't it?

Anan1

That's not at all unusual, TBH - i'd always be prepared for it when flashing someone blocking the overtaking lane.

biko

Did he actually brake or just press the brake down, without actually slowing down? I've seen this done to tailgaters before.

If he did indeed brake with the intention of you slamming into him it's indeed very stupid and dangerous.

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Drummerboy08

Plenty of fellas like that around. Best thing to do is take the reg no. and report it.

After overtaking of course!

Saab Ed

Hammertime wrote: »

he is right though, the limit is 60 isn't it?

Hold on hold on... The over taking lane is the over taking lane full stop. If you are not passing anyone then then you should not be there. Its not a race to stay in front and if you go into the inside lane then nobody is going to follow you up the chuff flashing lights at you in there. Reason : Because you are not in the way which you would be blocking everyone else in the outside lane doing 60.

homer90

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Drummerboy08

Saab Ed wrote: »

Hold on hold on... The over taking lane is the over taking lane full stop. If you are not passing anyone then then you should not be there. Its not a race to stay in front and if you go into the inside lane then nobody is going to follow you up the chuff flashing lights at you in there. Reason : Because you are not in the way which you would be blocking everyone else in the outside lane doing 60.

Welcome to Irish driving skills.

ZOLTAN28

Both drivers were breaking the speed limit by the sounds of things - If he was going 80 and you were trying to overtake him......

Maybe the Hilux man took it upon himself to slow the driving lane drivers down himself.

Braking like that is incredibly dangerous - so is speeding.

Drummerboy08

ZOLTAN28 wrote: »

Both drivers were breaking the speed limit by the sounds of things - If he was going 80 and you were trying to overtake him......

Maybe the Hilux man took it upon himself to slow the driving lane drivers down himself.

Braking like that is incredibly dangerous - so is speeding.

I drive that section of road every day to work. There are parts between those two off ramps that you are capable of doing 100kmph, let alone 80. I know its breaking the speed limit, but dont react to it as if it was a viciously dangerous speed.

Im sure you've broken one or two speed limits in your time too.

And the Hilux driver isnt there to police theroads, its not up to him, and its none of his concern if the OP wanted to overtake him. If he didnt like it, he should have reported the OP to the Gardai, instead of trying dangerous manouvers.

Saab Ed

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

I drive that section of road every day to work. There are parts between those two off ramps that you are capable of doing 100kmph, let alone 80. I know its breaking the speed limit, but dont react to it as if it was a viciously dangerous speed.

Im sure you've broken one or two speed limits in your time too.

And the Hilux driver isnt there to police theroads, its not up to him, and its none of his concern if the OP wanted to overtake him. If he didnt like it, he should have reported the OP to the Gardai, instead of trying dangerous manouvers.

Exactly, leave the policing to the police....and the speed cameras

Bandara

Saab Ed wrote: »

Hold on hold on... The over taking lane is the over taking lane full stop. If you are not passing anyone then then you should not be there. Its not a race to stay in front and if you go into the inside lane then nobody is going to follow you up the chuff flashing lights at you in there. Reason : Because you are not in the way which you would be blocking everyone else in the outside lane doing 60.

Sorry?

Where am I defending either of these people?

I stated that the speed limit on the road is 60.

Is this correct or not?

Saab Ed

Hammertime wrote: »

Sorry?

Where am I defending either of these people?

I stated that the speed limit on the road is 60.

Is this correct or not?

Didnt meen to suggest you were defending them so sorry if you took it up that way. But if its 60 or 160 the Hi Lux driver should not be there unless he is passing someone.

Anan1

Hammertime wrote: »

Sorry?

Where am I defending either of these people?

I stated that the speed limit on the road is 60.

Is this correct or not?

I think the way you put it was a bit ambiguous. I took 'he is right though, the limit is 60 isn't it?' as support for the Hilux driver too. Glad to hear that's not what you meant!

stealthyspeeder

s.welstead wrote: »

I seriously still can't believe it happened! Anyway just a warning if you come across this guy!

This guy (obviously cant be 100% sure but from the sound of it and the rareness of the Hilux and northbound M50) lives near me, he is always quite impressed with my undertaking abilities, gives me a triple flash of lights in admiration everytime!:D

stesaurus

Hammertime wrote: »

he is right though, the limit is 60 isn't it?

Show me one person who actually drives at 60kph on that section.

biko wrote: »

Did he actually brake or just press the brake down, without actually slowing down? I've seen this done to tailgaters before.

If he did indeed brake with the intention of you slamming into him it's indeed very stupid and dangerous.

http://www.m50.ie/index.php?page=88

Oh he definitely broke. I just avoided going through him by jamming on myself.

ZOLTAN28 wrote: »

Both drivers were breaking the speed limit by the sounds of things - If he was going 80 and you were trying to overtake him......

Maybe the Hilux man took it upon himself to slow the driving lane drivers down himself.

Braking like that is incredibly dangerous - so is speeding.

That's exactly what he did. He took it upon himself to try to police the road and made things far more dangerous by doing so.
Also you can't just spout 'speeding is dangerous'! It's not! It's not black and white. Road conditions, type of car, weather, traffic volume....etc There's a million things to consider when determing an 'appropriate speed'. By your logic doing 51kmh in a 50 zone is dangerous, b*llsh*t!

stesaurus

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

This guy (obviously cant be 100% sure but from the sound of it and the rareness of the Hilux and northbound M50) lives near me, he is always quite impressed with my undertaking abilities, gives me a triple flash of lights in admiration everytime!:D

Sounds like the same guy I guess. Shocking to think he believes he's in the right.
I'm assuming here your undertaking for similiar reasons to my own and not just for the sake of it.

smash

Last week I was coming on to the M50 northbound at the Dundrum exit where's there's a roundabout and then a sharp incline onto the M50. I was in the left lane with cars in front of me and a van was in the right lane. the dumb git wasn't looking where he was going and didn't see that his lane was about to merge into my lane and while level with my car, without looking, or indicating he tried to swing in and nearly took the side out of my car. As soon as he made the move I accelerated to try and get away from being creamed and he slammed on his brakes, then pulled out into the lane flashing me and sticking up his fingers!

When we got out onto the Motorway, he pulled up beside me again to give me the finger but I just ignored him!

Some people are idiots - I did get his reg though and his van was plastered with stickers for sems.ie - I ended up not reporting him though as I forgot about it!

stealthyspeeder

s.welstead wrote: »

Sounds like the same guy I guess. Shocking to think he believes he's in the right.
I'm assuming here your undertaking for similiar reasons to my own and not just for the sake of it.

Just for the craic of course! Nah joking, I do exactly what you do (except I flash my front fog lights as my high beams are blindingly bright) and indicate. No harsh words but seriously dirty looks from him as he follows me (now speeding up to keep up with me!) to the where we live. Happened twice, I give him the biggest smlile as he scowls driving past my place!

Saab Ed

s.welstead wrote: »

Sounds like the same guy I guess. Shocking to think he believes he's in the right.
I'm assuming here your undertaking for similiar reasons to my own and not just for the sake of it.

You know that so bad is the standard of driving on that road you can actually drive in the inside lane for most of it without having to move out of it at all to pass people. The new fast lane is the slow lane :pac:

stesaurus

steve06 wrote: »

Last week I was coming on to the M50 northbound at the Dundrum exit where's there's a roundabout and then a sharp incline onto the M50. I was in the left lane with cars in front of me and a van was in the right lane. the dumb git wasn't looking where he was going and didn't see that his lane was about to merge into my lane and while level with my car, without looking, or indicating he tried to swing in and nearly took the side out of my car. As soon as he made the move I accelerated to try and get away from being creamed and he slammed on his brakes, then pulled out into the lane flashing me and sticking up his fingers!

When we got out onto the Motorway, he pulled up beside me again to give me the finger but I just ignored him!

Some people are idiots - I did get his reg though and his van was plastered with stickers for sems.ie - I ended up not reporting him though as I forgot about it!

Hmmmm exact thing happened to me and gf while she was driving a week or so ago. Very same place also. Some woman with her 'baby on board' mobile. Forced her way in front right at the last minute.

Nearly cause a biggie. Anyway we caught up to give her the 'evil stare' and she mouthed at me F*cking Pr*ck! Eh I wasn't even driving love and it was your fault! Some people!!!!

Drummerboy08

s.welstead wrote: »

Hmmmm exact thing happened to me and gf while she was driving a week or so ago. Very same place also. Some woman with her 'baby on board' mobile. Forced her way in front right at the last minute.

Nearly cause a biggie. Anyway we caught up to give her the 'evil stare' and she mouthed at me F*cking Pr*ck! Eh I wasn't even driving love and it was your fault! Some people!!!!

You know those paint guns that James May installed on the back of the Lexus in the Police episode of Top Gear?............:D

Terra

Ireland is so full of idiot drivers, its so embarrasing....and they all think they're in the right which just makes them so ignorant.

Hey look the speed limit is set too 60 km/hr on the motor way so I'm going too save lives by hogging the overtaking lane at this speed.

Then other idiots who change lanes almost going into other cars, and don't even indicate....

It just goes on and on. Everyone trying too rebel against everyone else.

I just loved when I was in Germany, cars drove above 120km/hr most of the time...... no crashes as no one ever dared hogging the overtaking lanes...in which most were doing above 140km/hr.


They drive at the speed limit or faster....and you know what it's safe driving...as its not speed that kills it's crap driving that kills.


In france if you were too drive at the speed limit or below on the fast lane then you'd be blown out of it by every driver coming up behind you.

I guess it's just a culture problem in ireland...but its embarrasing....why oh why can't the majority of the Irish people learn too drive correctly.

stesaurus

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

Just for the craic of course! Nah joking, I do exactly what you do (except I flash my front fog lights as my high beams are blindingly bright) and indicate. No harsh words but seriously dirty looks from him as he follows me (now speeding up to keep up with me!) to the where we live. Happened twice, I give him the biggest smlile as he scowls driving past my place!

I would have thought 'fog lights' would get censored on here at this stage. Hmmm that's good idea, still gets their attention but doesn't cause too much distress. Might try that in future.

stesaurus

Terra wrote: »

Ireland is so full of idiot drivers, its so embarrasing....and they all think they're in the right which just makes them so ignorant.

Hey look the speed limit is set too 60 km/hr on the motor way so I'm going too save lives by hogging the overtaking lane at this speed.

Then other idiots who change lanes almost going into other cars, and don't even indicate....

It just goes on and on. Everyone trying too rebel against everyone else.

I just loved when I was in Germany, cars drove above 120km/hr most of the time...... no crashes as no one ever dared hogging the overtaking lanes...in which most were doing above 140km/hr.


They drive at the speed limit or faster....and you know what it's safe driving...as its not speed that kills it's crap driving that kills.


In france if you were too drive at the speed limit or below on the fast lane then you'd be blown out of it by every driver coming up behind you.

I guess it's just a culture problem in ireland...but its embarrasing....why oh why can't the majority of the Irish people learn too drive correctly.

Bang on! I've driven in UK, Germany and US and we really pale in comparison to their standards.
I've often felt the need to apoligise to some work mates, who are from all over Europe, for the state of our roads and drivers.

We should have mandatory repeat driving tests every 5-10 years and include motorway, parallel parking etc. in these.

here.from.day.1

s.welstead wrote: »

Show me one person who actually drives at 60kph on that section.

And if everyone else drove off a cliff would you go too?

BeardyGit

I just want to point something out here. Works traffic enter and exit the central median on the M50 from the overtaking lane. I've seen the lads in their Cargo vans and the like practically she-ite themselves when they've to swerve off the traffic lane onto the works lanes....let alone trying to merge onto the traffic lanes when they're done. Half the time they've some smart arse sitting on their hole because they think the 'clown in the van' is just trying to hold them up. Indicating right makes no difference as the gobdaw who's riding their arse thinks they're looking to overtake whoever's in front of them....

It's madness. Speeding on the M50 is insane - It's what makes half the people driving like idiots drive the way they do. Panic sets in and people make sudden and irrational manouvres just because they feel under threat from the dopes driving in excess of the limit - You see it every day. The speed limits on those works sections are there for a reason.

Saab Ed

Gil_Dub wrote: »

I just want to point something out here. Works traffic enter and exit the central median on the M50 from the overtaking lane. I've seen the lads in their Cargo vans and the like practically she-ite themselves when they've to swerve off the traffic lane onto the works lanes....let alone trying to merge onto the traffic lanes when they're done. Half the time they've some smart arse sitting on their hole because they think the 'clown in the van' is just trying to hold them up. Indicating right makes no difference as the gobdaw who's riding their arse thinks they're looking to overtake whoever's in front of them....

It's madness. Speeding on the M50 is insane - It's what makes half the people driving like idiots drive the way they do. Panic sets in and people make sudden and irrational manouvres just because they feel under threat from the dopes driving in excess of the limit - You see it every day. The speed limits on those works sections are there for a reason.

I dont disagree with you but its not the argument here. Lots of things are done wrong on our roads but the one we are focusing on here is the lane hogging.

andrewh5

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Welcome to Irish driving skills.

Note the oxymoron above
The standard of driving in Ireland leaves much to be desired.

robio

No matter what the inside lane on the motorway is for overtaking only. So you have every right to tell the lane hogger to get out of your way :-)

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andrewh5

steve06 wrote: »

Last week I was coming on to the M50 northbound at the Dundrum exit where's there's a roundabout and then a sharp incline onto the M50. I was in the left lane with cars in front of me and a van was in the right lane. the dumb git wasn't looking where he was going and didn't see that his lane was about to merge into my lane and while level with my car, without looking, or indicating he tried to swing in and nearly took the side out of my car.

Blame the ridiculous lane markings at the end of slip lanes for that one. People assume that, because the markings end before the end of the slip lane, they just merge as part of the lane they are joining. If we had proper lane markings as in the UK, Gerrmany & France for example we wouldn't have such a problem.