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Has anybody ever left Auditing for a completely different career?

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  • #32
    spongeman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    Hi there,

    I have been in practice for 12 years ........

    During that time I have seen qualified people who crashed and burned, simply could'nt do the job. Of the people who I have worked with Id say that I know about 5 who are still in practice.

    I think that its something you can either do ot you cant. Being qualified is nothing to do with it. Can you do the job ? This week a chemist...next week a factory......Can you adapt yourself to different situations ? If you cant then leave.

    People still need their accounts done, even in a recession. People with good audit experience will always be needed. They are hard to find.


  • #33
    Running Bing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    Did they all just start- same as you?

    First years socialising is Brilliant!!

    In fact work hard play hard all the time- by second year it's clicky and fades out and by third year sporadic at best.

    They all qualified last April. Im talking more so about the 13 hour days 6 days a week comment. They always had time to play a game of footy during the week or head out for a match. Hours in Big4 are long but their not mad. If people spent a month in an Investment Bank or a big London Law firm they would see what mad is.
    The main problem is the work itself imo- repetative, tedious, long hours, high stress. Very hard to have a happy athmosphere in that environment.

    Thats what a lot of jobs are though. Ive worked in banking and its the same
    story. Long hours, often repetitive, tedious, loads of stress. Thats what's required. Some people thrive on that.

    The other problem is a lot of people expect big4 to be like college, a fun house with suits. They think you spend 8 hours a day (with a one hour break) being taught whats going on and having a chat with mates. A lot of people are not prepared for the real world imo.


  • #34
    spongeman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    I agree with ya man.

    Practice is the real world.


  • #35
    4444
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15 ✭4444


    Such an expected a-typical PR/propaganda response from those in Big4 firms, usually above trainee level. 'They simply arnt up to it' doesnt wash with those of us who actually do, and continue to do the job.

    Simply fact, I'm not sure that in my ex-firm Big4 that you could EVER do enough work/hours. Expectations are infinate. But people arnt.

    The majority of people leave directly (or have done at least in good economic times) after qualifying. Not because they cant do it, but because they prioritise respect, time with loved ones over it. If you look around, most Big4 managers are foreigners, or from small practice background. The top-nosh who qualify, see it for what it is.

    And I for one am proud that I have learnt the lesson early. That a job is not everything. That other things need to be considered.

    And no, I wont ever give up my ambition, I'll suceed in spite of all that.

    Anglo, and all its revalations has shown that Ire.Inc has lost all sense of integrity and the rule of accountability, and abiding by the laws. Producing broken, disheartened qualified out of Big4 where they have been used and abused has been a direct input into this.

    Its not going with the flow that counts, its doing the right thing. And if your willing to work hard, never give up your ideals, you'll make it, and probably be more sucessful than the spineless egos that fill our top brass in financial and accounting circles.

    There is another way to qualify as an accountant. Move to smaller practice. LEARN how to audit, income tax, corporation tax, business proposals, liquidations, vat returns, paye returns, RCT returns etc etc.

    You'll be a far more rounded person, in both professional and business sense.


  • #36
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,861 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    4444 wrote: »
    Such an expected a-typical PR/propaganda response from those in Big4 firms, usually above trainee level. 'They simply arnt up to it' doesnt wash with those of us who actually do, and continue to do the job.

    sorry, thats nonsense

    again, i trained in a big4, and i left after my contract as a career as an audit manager didnt float my boat

    and i have been proven right given the experience i have gained over the past 2.5 years.

    however its a simple fact, out of every 10 trainees taken in, generally 2 are very good, 4-5 are ok and the other 2 or 3 just dont cut it in the industry.

    that does not mean they are useless or something is wrong with them just that they chose the wrong industry to go into.


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