Mom or Not

G&T

Just wondering how many people post
on this site who are not parent's or trying to become parent's.

Why?

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

Melion

Im not a parent yet, am i still allowed post?

G&T

Wanted to post in parenting,
yes if your pregnant then of course you can post:D

Just came to my attention during the week
that alot of people who were neither trying to concieve,
pregnant or parent's are offering advice on this board.

And I don't know what that is about,
I come on this site to chat with people
who are in similar circumstances to myself.

Sorry if I offended you,
good luck with your pregnancy.

kizzyr

I have no kids and come into this forum, well parenting in general, for a few different reasons. One is to try to get a better understanding of the issues that face parents at different stages of their child's life. This allows me to better understand the things my sisters (both of whom have 3 children each) and their husbands are going through. Sometimes I post too, this may be to ask questions e.g. there was a recent thread about taking Vitamins during pregnancy and apparently some are to be avoided. I'd never heard of this before and posted to ask why. Other times I may post in a genuine bid to try to help someone out. Is this so wrong?

Oryx

G&T, I think youre being really unfair. Does that mean I cant post in fitness till Im fit? Or in Humanities till Im a nice person? Of course non parents can post here. Heck some of them will be some day, and for those that wont, they might have a better understanding of kids and not tut next time they see a 3yo running wild in the supermarket (with harrassed mammy in tow).

Jimdagym

Disgraceful, insulting and completely close-minded post. I am a father of 1 and a half kids. Just stumbled on this particular board for this first time, and the first post i read is the op. You need to cop on to yourself G&T. The north county dublin forum is for people with an interest in the area, not exclusively people from it. Likewise, this is a discussion board for people to talk about parenting and parenting related issues. If you want to sit around and gossip with other parents, i suggest you either start your own website, or form a knitting circle.


I Apologise if the tone i used upset anyone's sensibilities. If any ban is deemed appropriate, i accept that with absolutely no complaint.

holly1

G&T wrote: »

Just wondering how many people post
on this site who are not parent's or trying to become parent's.

Why?

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

Does this garbage go for Grandparents also,I am a mother still

holly1

Are you American G&T,(going by the Mom and not Mam or Mum),people in Ireland cant help giving each other little bits of advice and experiance.Lighten up.

templetonpeck

I think I know what the OP is getting at. I've seen some posts in here offering advice from peeps who really haven't any experience in the situation. Though you could say us first timers haven't a clue either

Of course a forum is free for anyone to interact with, but the proffering of advice should be given by some with at least some experience....I wouldn't take 'keep fit' advice from a couch potato.

G&T

All Im trying to say is if your well meaning
but unexperienced on the topic then could
you say so in your reply,
There are 100's of parenting book's out there
but the advice from other parent's/grandparent's
is second to none.

Thank's templetonpeck.

Jim im on this forum because im pregnant,
like your partner,would you like someone
to use that tone with her........
way ott and out of line mod's

kizzyr

G&T wrote: »

All Im trying to say is if your well meaning
but unexperienced on the topic then could
you say so in your reply,
There are 100's of parenting book's out there
but the advice from other parent's/grandparent's
is second to none.

Thank's templetonpeck.

Jim im on this forum because im pregnant,
like your partner,would you like someone
to use that tone with her........
way ott and out of line mod's

Jim possibly felt that you were a little OTT and out of line with your OP........and I say that as someone who is not and never has been pregnant.:)

Toots

I think that's a pretty hurtful comment to make tbh. There are people who would have a lot of experience with kids but who might not necessarily be parents yet, or be trying yet.

I post in this forum (the main parenting forum mostly) from time to time and I'm not a parent, nor do I intend to be for another 5 yrs or so. I've got experience with kids, and if someone comes on looking for advice and I can offer them help, I don't think my childless status should prevent me from doing so.

I don't think being a parent automatically makes you an expert on child rearing either. Unfortunately, there's a lot of really sh!tty parents out there too.

Jimdagym

G&T wrote: »

All Im trying to say is if your well meaning
but unexperienced on the topic then could
you say so in your reply,
There are 100's of parenting book's out there
but the advice from other parent's/grandparent's
is second to none.

Thank's templetonpeck.

Jim im on this forum because im pregnant,
like your partner,would you like someone
to use that tone with her........
way ott and out of line mod's

By all means report my post and i have already accepted fallout, but if my wife was to be as hurtful and insensitive as you were in your opening post, i would call her on it exactly the same.

livvy

i am a mom and post here. If good solid advice is given i will take it regardless of whether the provider has children.

Dinkie

I am reading this thread with a paediatric nursing friend of mine, who is neither a parent nor trying to be. I'm assuming she doesn't have enough experience for you either. :mad:

I'm not a parent either (although I've never posted to now), but often read this forum as I'm around kids, including some with Down Syndrome, a lot and get advice here.

I'm with Jim and feel free to report me also... I think it is a very narrow minded opinion.

Are non-parents limited to TLL and after hours? Are we not allowed any where else?

*Stomps off to calm down*

Nevyn

Right I am only getting to see this thread now and I am shocked none of these posts were reported.


G&T the charter of this forum clearly points out that it is for anyone who is involved
with children and wishes to contribute, it is not restricted to just
those who are parents.

charter wrote:

This forums is for those who are invovled with rearing and parenting children,
parents, grand parents, extended family ect.

If you have a problem with people's posts here report them.
If you have an issue with the forum or aspects of it either raise it with the mods via
pm or you may choose to give your feedback in the feedback forum.

I will not have a poster throwing thier weight around and kicking up a fuss and
there for rubbishing the community which has grown up and around the parenting
forum and sub forum.

I had to fight hard and long to get a parenting forum created here in the first place.
The parenting forum is part of the larger site as a whole and we do not restrict posters
due to them having children or not, if they wish to post in this forum.

If you are not happy with this then I suggest you try other sites which are exclusively
for parents and parents to be.

Your's very annoyed and cranky
Thaedydal.

embee

I second what Thaed has said here.

G&T, if you are so personally offended by the fact that some people posting here aren't parents, then you should really be using an exclusive parenting site.

This is a tiny sub forum of the largest message board in Ireland. Boards.ie was never set up as a parenting website, but as it's evolved, a place for a Parenting slot was found to be necessary. The people here are a goldmine of information, support and advice and for you to come here and poo-poo their input.. well, it's a touch insulting.

I'm a parent of a 3 year old girl. Does this mean that I should only post in threads about toddlers, about girls? Should I keep my nose out of threads regarding teenagers, parenting boys etc?

Some of the best advice I ever received from boards was from Thaedydal, when I was pregnant, regarding breastfeeding. I wasn't visiting the Parenting forum then (I didn't know it existed) but since I've had my daughter, I've found it invaluable.

The "Pregnant" and "Trying To Conceive" sub-fora are relatively new here and they reflect the changing dynamics of people who are posting on boards. I started posting here when I was 21, not even thinking of children until I was after 30. Now, I'm 28 with one child and hopefully I'll have more. If I decide to read the TTC forums now (when I'm not actively TTC) am I doing something wrong? People who miscarry should only read the threads about miscarriage? People who've had twins should only post about experiences with twins? That sort of attitude is a nonsense and only creates friction where there doesn't need to be any. I've not had a miscarriage (that I'm aware of), I haven't had twins, but I know of people who have, and in that regard I can offer advice and tips. Sure, I might not know FULLY what it is to parent twins, endure a miscarriage, but hell... nothing wrong with a little bit of empathy and understanding!

No one is the perfect parent, we all make mistakes. It's the hardest job in the world and people rarely get any thanks or recognition for it. It would be nice if people (looking directly at you here, G&T) posting to Parenting/Pregnant/Trying To Conceive were supportive and non-judgemental to the other users.

If however, you feel you can't be, I politely suggest you don't post.

templetonpeck

wow this thread certainly rattled a few cages :eek:

I didn't see anything offensive in what the OP said....I thought it was a fair comment? I certainly don't see what posts would warrant reporting, but perhaps I haven't read it all properly

No-one's the perfect parent with all the answers, likewise not everyone's experiences are the same so one parent wouldn't have a clue of something some one else is seeking advice on. But I do see the point the OP is trying to make.

Salome

I'm not a parent yet but one day I might be - this forum is handy so I can get an understanding about what I might be letting myself in for!!!

amdublin

Salome wrote: »

I'm not a parent yet but one day I might be - this forum is handy so I can get an understanding about what I might be letting myself in for!!!

Ditto the above.

Plus I would have thought that any open minded person would welcome opinions from a diverse range of people. That is one of the reason why I post on boards.

Crea

I think people reactions here are way OTT.

Before I had kids I had alot of experience with children as I had worked as a nanny, had lots of nieces and nephews and worked for a few months in a montessori. I would wonder at how people dealt with their children and be thinking in my head of how they should do it another way.But let me tell you NOTHING prepared me for the feelings and emotions that come with being a parent. In all honesty I hadn't a clue how dealing with your own children 24 hours a day 7 days a week changes the way you deal with things.
Frankly if someone who had never parented gave me parenting advice i'd be thinking "Thanks-call me when you have a clue". Fine if your a health professional giving health advice or a behaviour specialist giving behaviour advice or a teacher giving education advice etc.
I in no way see how the poster was rubbishing the site. Other posters saying that you can only post on the sites that apply to you now is frankly ridiculous eg; if you have TTC in the past then you can give advice on TTC eventhough you aren't now.
I think if you're going to give advice you need to have experience of what your advising on.

templetonpeck

I agree with you Crea, I really don't understand the overaction to what the OP said.

If someone went in giving advice in the motor forum about something they had no experience in, they wouldn't last five seconds I certainly won't be taking childbirth advice from anyone other than the professionals treating me, and those who have been there

aoibhebree

Right ... but you'll trust the advice of randomers who post here claiming to have kids etc, when you don't know the slightest thing about their lives or backgrounds? I mean, even if a poster has ten kids, it doesn't guarantee that they have good parenting skills!!

Good advice is good advice, regardless of whether the poster has their own kids or not.

While I am not yet a mother, I have a hell of a lot of experience with children; if I felt this might help a fellow poster, I would share my own experiences. I would not however necessarily expect the poster to necessarily pay any heed to my advice; people should use their own discretion when taking on board advice that they receive on a discussion board from non-professionals.

holly1

ladies,everyone who has been born knowes a little about something,so I think ,everyone has a little knowledge to give.We were all babies,children,teenagers and then adults,so are we not all a little knowledgeable about life.

John Mason

G&T wrote: »

Just wondering how many people post
on this site who are not parent's or trying to become parent's.

Why?

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

maybe you could try mumstown.ie or rollercoaster.ie instead

G&T

Ok,

I made my point,
it is accepted by some and not by others.


I babysat all through my teen's,
worked with kid's with down's syndrome,
my niece had a hair lip,my friend's baby has a heart condition,
my sister in law just had a miss,

I could go on,but I would not feel right or qualified
to give advice to parent's dealing with any of these issue's.
If I did comment I would specify that I was not experienced
directly but X,Y or Z worked for my friend/family.

I feel I made a valid point,and I do feel im not in
the wrong for feeling this way.
I will use my best judgement when it comes
to offering advice to people on this forum,
parenting is not a hobby/past-time
for me.

aoibhebree

G&T wrote: »

my niece had a hair lip

Poor thing ... has she tried Immac?

MJOR

I am not a mom but pop in and out on occasion. Goodness G & T you can't stop freedom of speech! Everyone like to have a good moan now and again! Live and let live! Just because you are pregnant or have babysat a lot or have experience with special needs kids doesn't qualify you anymore than me. It's an arrogant statemant to make. I am the youngest in my family and have buckets of nephews and nieces, can change a nappy on one knee. Do I claim to be fab? No just happy to comment or post when I want

Toots

G&T wrote: »

I will use my best judgement when it comes
to offering advice to people on this forum,
parenting is not a hobby/past-time
for me.

I don't think it's a hobby for the majority of other people here either. Most users of this forum are upfront about whether or not they're parents or if they've had experience in other ways. Besides, unless you know some of the posters here personally, there's no way to be sure they actually have kids at all! I could come on here claiming to be a mother of 7, with twins on the way and nobody would ever know if I was lying or not.

VeryBerry

G&T wrote: »

Ok,

I will use my best judgement when it comes
to offering advice to people on this forum,

Just as those to whom you offer advice will use their best judgement on whether to follow your advice or not. Just as you can chose to ignore or listen to any offered advice from other posters. Giving advice is like giving an opinion - anyone is entitled to give it, its up to you to decide what to do with it. Posting on a public forum means exactly that - its public, anyone is entitled to respond. Just because you don't think someone who isn't a parent can't offer advice on a particular child-rearing situation, doesn't mean that person shouldn't be allowed give that advice.

Anway, not being a parent doesn't excluded someone from giving very good child rearing advice, and equally, being a parent doesn't protect you from giving inappropriate or bad advice.

I'm not a parent (yet! 16 weeks to go!), but I've helped raise 4 younger siblings, and I work in child development. Over the years I have often been asked by friends and relatives for all types of parenting advice, from bottle-feeding, to potty training, to dealing with tantrums (toddlers and teenagers). Should I have told people that I couldn't offer them any advice becaue I wasn't a parent?

nesf

You can't be sure of someone's gender online never mind whether or not they've experience of parenting. It's pointless to try and close this forum off to non-parents because we can't say for certain whether or not people have kids. I'd personally take issue with the title since it seems to infer that it's only the moms that should be here.

I'm moving this to parenting since it belongs there really.

Fad

I'm not a parent, I'm a teenager, I'll still drop in here and if its appropriate for me to comment, I will. Another parents perspective isnt always the right perspective ya know!

Gran Hermano

I find both the tone and opinion of the OP offensive, not to mention the backseat modding.

I like how on Boards one can post in any of the public fora as long as one is respectful and civilised. Why should one poster decide who should be excluded or not?

Most sensible people realise that they should question what they read online, albeit question it to various degrees depending on who the porter is and what you know about them/their background. I also find that no matter what forum on here other posters have no hesitation in correcting posts they see as incorrect or misinformation.

Now maybe I should toddle off to AH or TLL as I appear to fail the uterus check the OP is requesting.

Nevyn

Gran Hermano the charter of the forum already detail's it's inclusiviness not out fault
if the op didn't read it and was working under a false assumption.

Gran Hermano

Thaedydal wrote: »

Gran Hermano the charter of the forum already detail's it's inclusiviness not out fault
if the op didn't read it and was working under a false assumption.

Thanks Thaed, it's not the modding nor charter I was objecting to as I have no problem with either. As I said above it's when one person starts requesting people are excluded or censored because a forum does not match their own particular definition of what a forum should be and who has permission to post that irks me.

Kudos to you and the other mods here,as a frequent and long term lurker I have no gripes.

stovelid

Tbh, I think you're more likely to identify advice from actual parents by their contributions, or the context of them, as they are usually anecdotal. The overwhelmingly majority of posters probably are parents, but I wouldn't like to see any forum that only welcomed comments from one group. By its nature, parenting will have a wider range and appeal than a lot of other 'expert' forums.

embee

G&T wrote: »

I will use my best judgement when it comes to offering advice to people on this forum, parenting is not a hobby/past-time for me.

Jeez G&T,

Do you really think that there's a parent out there who looks on parenting as a hobby or past-time?

Enough already.

aoibhebree wrote:

Poor thing ... has she tried Immac?

Honestly - there's no need for that. None whatsoever.

CathyMoran

Everyone has a viewpoint on kids and has a right to post. I dont have a clue how to look after them so I avoid that but as I miscarried I know all about that and being pregnant and would consider myself and my husband to be parents even if our child died. It is useful picking up tips about what to hopefully do if we are lucky again. I am not trying to concieve this month as I have a medical test, if that is OK then all steam for a Christmas baby.

G&T

aoibhebree wrote: »

Poor thing ... has she tried Immac?

This is the meanest thing I have ever seen on this site!
You cow how dare you.

Im done with this debate because it is not
being moderated by impartial mod's.
And debate is being allowed to turn into attack.

lostinnappies

G&T wrote: »

Just wondering how many people post
on this site who are not parent's or trying to become parent's.

Why?

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

I understand that while non-parents would not have the "in the trenches" experience you would be surprised where you can find inspiration or guidance. Everyone you meet in life is there to teach you something .... sometimes it maybe how NOT to do something but they have taught you.

There is enough of this "you dont understand because you havent done it yourself/ dont work as somethingorother" mentallity in these boards.

templetonpeck

G&T wrote: »

Im done with this debate because it is not
being moderated by impartial mod's.
And debate is being allowed to turn into attack.

You're dead right G & T...all you did was make a comment about the forum...there was nothing rude about it, but the replies you got, and are continuing to get are complete OTT with the Moderators jumping on the bandwagon. It's not nice to see at all. Looks like an argument for the sake of it to me.

stovelid

templetonpeck wrote: »

You're dead right G & T...all you did was make a comment about the forum...there was nothing rude about it, but the replies you got, and are continuing to get are complete OTT with the Moderators jumping on the bandwagon. It's not nice to see at all. Looks like an argument for the sake of it to me.

I think the replies (and moderator comments) have been perfectly reasoned.

The forum is supposed to be inclusive, so non-parents are perfectly entitled to post.

If you take the qualified posters rule to the extreme, you may as well say that a parent of two children is better than one; a parent is better than an expectant parent-to-be and so on.

Parenting isn't like other 'expert' forums, as a lot of people (people involved in childcare, children's healthcare, or even just people with young nieces, nephews, and siblings) have opinions on children. It may not be as hands-on as being a parent, but it doesn't mean it's entirely invalid or uninteresting.

The actual parents here are usually easily identified by their use of anecdotal evidence, and as for what constitutes valid advice, you shouldn't take any internet advice for gospel anyway. As some topics show, parents can proffer just as unsuitable a piece of advice as a non-parent.

templetonpeck

stovelid wrote: »

I think the replies (and moderator comments) have been perfectly reasoned.

The forum is supposed to be inclusive, so non-parents are perfectly entitled to post.

If you take the qualified posters rule to the extreme, you may as well say that a parent of two children is better than one; a parent is better than an expectant parent-to-be and so on.

Parenting isn't like other 'expert' forums, as a lot of people (people involved in childcare, children's healthcare, or even just people with young nieces, nephews, and siblings) have opinions on children. It may not be as hands-on as being a parent, but it doesn't mean it's entirely invalid or uninteresting.

The actual parents here are usually easily identified by their use of anecdotal evidence, and as for what constitutes valid advice, you shouldn't take any internet advice for gospel anyway. As some topics show, parents can proffer just as unsuitable a piece of advice as a non-parent.

You can dissect anyone's post to within an inch of it's life and find fault with each segment of it.

If people disagree with what the OP said fair enough, voice your disagreement but the personal insults and comments that followed are completely out of order.

I wouldn't give a parent advice on raising their child, because I wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about because I've no experience. Simple as that. If some one asked me for advice on pregnancy at 3 months, I would certainly be more qualified now to pass on information than I was 12 months ago, having passed that stage already, but I certainly wouldn't give any kind of advice to some one who was further along in pregnancy than me. No internet advice is gospel, you're right and should never be taken as such, and why's that? Because you don't know whether the person giving it is talking from real experience or knowledge. Which is the point I believe the OP was trying to make.

templetonpeck

aoibhebree wrote: »

Poor thing ... has she tried Immac?

this post for example.....what the hell is the need for this???? :mad:

stovelid

templetonpeck wrote: »

this post for example.....what the hell is the need for this???? :mad:

I actually laughed at it. I don't think it was malicious: just a joke. And the poster was censured for it, were they not?

The OP's tone was confrontational from the off, so this is going to have bearing on the some of the replies.

Toots

G&T wrote: »

Im done with this debate because it is not
being moderated by impartial mod's.
And debate is being allowed to turn into attack.

TBH, I can see why the mods might be a bit peeved, you're basically criticising how they run the forum. (Not directly, but by saying that parents only should be allowed to post here and that non parents should not be allowed to post that's pretty much what's happening).

...all you did was make a comment about the forum...

Yes, it was a comment, but it came accross as pretty nasty IMO. "Are you a parent? No? Right, piss off to AH or TLL because I've no interest in what you have to say here and you've no clue what you're talking about." Is roughly how I think most of the other posters in this thread interpreted that.

At the end of the day, it's a public forum, anyone could post here if they so wish. If it were a private forum and access was granted to parents only, it wouldn't get as much traffic. The beauty of the parenting forum is that you can get such a wide range of solutions and opinions on issues, then you can pick and chose which ones you think would work best for your situation.

It's also helpful for people who may not have kids, or be trying just yet, but might be thinking about it some time down the line, to come in here and have a look around. Maybe get a heads up on what they're in for

As I said before, this is the internet, unless you know the posters personally there's know way of knowing for sure if they actually have kids. Actual parents would usually post their experiences in a more anecdotal style, however, this too can be imitated. Somebody could be posting about an experience they saw with a relative/friend/TV character and just inserting 'my son/my daughter' as appropriate. Bearing this in mind, I think the OP's point is moot.

Nevyn

G&T wrote: »

This is the meanest thing I have ever seen on this site!
You cow how dare you.

G&T aoibhebree was told that post was out of order and now you are being told that
calling anyone a cow is not acceptable.

G&T wrote: »

Im done with this debate because it is not
being moderated by impartial mod's.
And debate is being allowed to turn into attack.

Ok then I am going to move this to feedback and I am going to pm the cat mod
about it as you seem to think all four of the parenting mods are not impartial.

marti101

Ah op you cant come on a parenting site say stuff like that and wonder why everyone is pissed off with you.Look i dont mind people having their 2 cents worth if they dont have kids cause they will change their mind pretty quick when the reality of the situation hits.The way i look at it they can post here and i can post in bgrh even though i dont have that either.

John Mason

OP why dont you request a private forum ? and ask people to scan in their childrens birth certificate or baby scans before you allow them access

Dudess

G&T wrote: »

Just wondering how many people post
on this site who are not parent's or trying to become parent's.

Why?

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

Appalling post - extremely rude, condescending, arrogant, exclusionary... and the way you subsequently act all innocent when people confront you? What do you expect when YOU'RE the one who was confrontational in the first place? Just because you're now pregnant does not give you any right to suddenly feel entitled to box people off like that.

G&T wrote: »

Wanted to post in parenting,
yes if your pregnant then of course you can post:D

I'm sure she's delighted to have your permission...

Just came to my attention during the week
that alot of people who were neither trying to concieve,
pregnant or parent's are offering advice on this board.

That's a fair enough concern... so why did you have to phrase it so aggressively and rudely? And consider the situations too - often there are aspects to parenting on which non parents could advise, either because they have very young siblings, nieces, nephews whom they look after a lot... or could be childcare professionals. How come you excluded those?
And childless people giving advice might be none of the above - they might just have more common sense than the parent looking for advice. Yes, it's true - not all parents are good advice givers.

Can't stand the "you're not a parent so you wouldn't understand" mindset when it's unwarranted.

I come on this site to chat with people
who are in similar circumstances to myself.

This site isn't just about what YOU want.

templetonpeck wrote: »

I think I know what the OP is getting at. I've seen some posts in here offering advice from peeps who really haven't any experience in the situation. Though you could say us first timers haven't a clue either

Well there you go... but apparently it's ok to give advice if you're pregnant/trying to conceive. And again, sometimes advice can be given by those who don't have experience in the situation - it's often very beneficial because of how impartial and objective it is.
My friend's coping with the anniversary of her ex's suicide - I've been suggesting things she could do to help ease the pain, she's very grateful. Should she not be, seeing as I never lost anyone to suicide?

I wouldn't take 'keep fit' advice from a couch potato.

Oh right, because they'd advise you to eat chips with every meal, seeing as that's what they do. Oh and if the did, their posts would be deleted off the Fitness forum anyway. What if they're well up on nutrition/fitness because of reading about it/studying it?
Actually yeah, if these non parents' advice is so inappropriate, how come the regular Parenting moderators (all of whom are parents) don't delete the comments?

G&T wrote: »

Jim im on this forum because im pregnant,
like your partner,would you like someone
to use that tone with her........
way ott and out of line mod's

No it isn't - Jim said nothing personally abusive whatsoever. You just didn't like reading it.

Crea wrote: »

I think people reactions here are way OTT.

Before I had kids I had alot of experience with children as I had worked as a nanny, had lots of nieces and nephews and worked for a few months in a montessori. I would wonder at how people dealt with their children and be thinking in my head of how they should do it another way.But let me tell you NOTHING prepared me for the feelings and emotions that come with being a parent. In all honesty I hadn't a clue how dealing with your own children 24 hours a day 7 days a week changes the way you deal with things.
Frankly if someone who had never parented gave me parenting advice i'd be thinking "Thanks-call me when you have a clue". Fine if your a health professional giving health advice or a behaviour specialist giving behaviour advice or a teacher giving education advice etc.
I in no way see how the poster was rubbishing the site. Other posters saying that you can only post on the sites that apply to you now is frankly ridiculous eg; if you have TTC in the past then you can give advice on TTC eventhough you aren't now.
I think if you're going to give advice you need to have experience of what your advising on.

More of the "you don't understand unless you're a parent" patronising, condescending, dismissive tripe. Maybe you should only hire childcare professionals as babysitters so? Oh wait... primary teachers aren't trained in childcare, only education, and they're in loco parentis - better home-school the kids. You never know, their teachers might not be parents.

templetonpeck wrote: »

If someone went in giving advice in the motor forum about something they had no experience in, they wouldn't last five seconds

That's a specific science... there are aspects to childcare based on general cop-on.

G&T wrote: »

parenting is not a hobby/past-time
for me.

What are you implying by that?

G&T wrote: »

This is the meanest thing I have ever seen on this site!

She was joking about the spelling (it should be "harelip") not the child.

Im done with this debate because it is not
being moderated by impartial mod's.
And debate is being allowed to turn into attack.

How is it either? Maybe you're the one who's being unreasonable.

templetonpeck wrote: »

You're dead right G & T...all you did was make a comment about the forum...there was nothing rude about it

Yes there was.

but the replies you got, and are continuing to get are complete OTT with the Moderators jumping on the bandwagon. It's not nice to see at all. Looks like an argument for the sake of it to me.

No, people are understandably annoyed. I mean, even the tone of the post is extremely aggressive - and quite nasty. "Go hang out in the Ladies' Lounge or After Hours" - wtf?

templetonpeck wrote: »

If people disagree with what the OP said fair enough, voice your disagreement but the personal insults and comments that followed are completely out of order.

Harshness isn't the same as personal insults.

Beruthiel

G&T wrote: »

Could ye go hang out in after hours
or the ladies lounge and leave the parenting
site to the parent's.

Wow! Condescending much?!
This site is open to everyone, they can post in any forum they wish as long as they stay within the rules of that particular forum.