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Technical Death metal

  • 22-12-2008 11:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭


    I don't tend to go by genres (whatever they are) when it comes to my musical inclinations and experimentations. I've come to realise, as of late however, that I'm mostly to bands of the ilk of Arsis, Decapitated, Neuraxis, The Faceless etcetera.

    Anybody else into the likes of these? I adore them. I'd be up for recommendations as well lads/lassies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    Necrophagist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Anybody else into the likes of these?

    Definitely. Neuraxis are especially terrific.

    As for recommendations, it might be a little too obvious, but seeing as you haven't mentioned them already, Cryptopsy:



    The albums None So Vile and Whisper Supremacy are a great place to start.

    Another band you might like is Mithras:



    Absolutely love their stuff, and they've a very unique sound. Check out the album Worlds Beyond the Veil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Lol, its funny, you say you like Technical Death Metal, and yet you have Neurosis in your sig ( who are amazing btw ) . I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that by any means, just strikes me as odd, I would have thought that for the most part people that like one of the genres would tend to not like the other.


    Reading back what I just wrote, I see that I actually would not agree with that post were it to come from someone else :P . I suppose its just cause I quite like the whole sludge, type stuff and can't stand the technical stuff for the most part.

    Just my own predgujice so to speak :( .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Lol, its funny, you say you like Technical Death Metal, and yet you have Neurosis in your sig ( who are amazing btw ) . I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that by any means, just strikes me as odd, I would have thought that for the most part people that like one of the genres would tend to not like the other.


    Reading back what I just wrote, I see that I actually would not agree with that post were it to come from someone else :P . I suppose its just cause I quite like the whole sludge, type stuff and can't stand the technical stuff for the most part.

    Just my own predgujice so to speak :( .

    It's odd, I didn't even think there was such a division with people. I like both kinds myself, bands like Neurosis and Isis. I love the furious chaotic atmosphere of the more technical bands. I'll listen to Sleep or Sunn O))) and Morbid Angel or the like, and not even think about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    mp3guy wrote: »
    Necrophagist

    I think Muhammad has said, for the past three years or so, a new album is coming out this year. I personally can't wait!

    I've been meaning to check Mithras out, as coincidence would have it Karl. They're sounding great there (apart from the vocals, may be a grower though). Cheers for the heads-up. What do you make of the newest Neuraxis? I think it sounds like a different band, but not necessarily in a bad way. A vocalist's stamp will always bear a mark. Trilateral Progression is bounteous.
    Lol, its funny, you say you like Technical Death Metal, and yet you have Neurosis in your sig ( who are amazing btw ) . I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that by any means, just strikes me as odd, I would have thought that for the most part people that like one of the genres would tend to not like the other.


    Reading back what I just wrote, I see that I actually would not agree with that post were it to come from someone else :P . I suppose its just cause I quite like the whole sludge, type stuff and can't stand the technical stuff for the most part.

    Just my own predgujice so to speak :( .

    Well I do like both styles...quite a lot. It's down to personal taste though after all. I don't listen to the likes of the aforementioned bands because they can play 17,365 ± 6 notes per split-second, I just find them to be a stimulating listen. Which goes for Russian Circles, Red Sparrows, Explosions in the Sky, Neurosis and so on. They're as captivating, but in a different way. At least, that's as far as I'm concerned. I'm not one for sticking to absolutes. All for mixes of flavours.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Job for a Cowboy



    Gojira



    The Black Dahlia Murder



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    New Gojira's definitely a grower.

    The Black Dahlia Murder have Ryan Knight from Arsis as their lead guitarist now. Don't quite know what to make of that.

    Job for a Cowboy get a far tougher time, for whatever reason, than they deserve. I don't love them by any means, but they're far from atrocious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Most of the great ones have been mentioned, definitely check out Mithras though, well worth your time, Necrophagist played a savage gig in Dublin a few years back too.

    You should also check out Arsebreed, their 'Munching the Rotten' album is brilliant:
    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=55002271

    +1 for sludge metal too, Russian Circles and Pelican especially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭rgt320q


    Can't talk about tech death without mentioning Atheist. Elements is an absolutely classic album.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Pugsley wrote: »
    Most of the great ones have been mentioned, definitely check out Mithras though, well worth your time, Necrophagist played a savage gig in Dublin a few years back too.

    You should also check out Arsebreed, their 'Munching the Rotten' album is brilliant:
    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=55002271

    +1 for sludge metal too, Russian Circles and Pelican especially.

    Was that were they opened, as well as encored with Stabwound? The craic was mighty all right. Didn't see them the second time, as I opted for Red Sparrows, playing the same night as it happened.

    Something, unnameable perhaps, stops me from liking Atheist. Bad taste on my part, probably.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭lee_arama


    No more Decapitated unfortunately... I'veour own posters from those gigs all over my wall here.

    And Necrophagist were great the last time they played down in Cork. Thursday night show as I recall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭lee_arama


    __________________
    BelowZero.gif

    I do believe they'll be in Fibbers come January...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    lee_arama wrote: »
    No more Decapitated unfortunately... I'veour own posters from those gigs all over my wall here.


    It's been confirmed so? Don't know quite what to think. Overall though, I think they'd be better off ending it. Can't stop listening to Planetary Duality and Aa celebration of Guilt by The Faceless and Arsis respectively. The beef is brought with these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    Alarum
    Anata
    Brain Drill
    Kataklysm
    Origin
    Scar Symmetry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    Death or Pestilence do it for me. Job For A Cowboy are pure deathcore ****e! IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Alcoholocaust


    Try Blotted Science.. Ron Jarzombek's instrumental side project. VERY GOOD..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Blotted science are great all right! Prodigious musicianship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Theory in Practice
    Demilich
    Gorguts
    Lykathé
    Nocturnus
    Psycroptic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Alcoholocaust


    Blotted science are great all right! Prodigious musicianship.

    I dare ye to try figure out a time signature to some of their stuff.... It'd wreck yer head..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Was that were they opened, as well as encored with Stabwound? The craic was mighty all right.
    That's the one, savage gig. Good sized crowd for the voodoo too, not too packed but enough to get a good atmosphere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    Well they haven't been mentioned but an obvious choice is Nile.

    Other than that I really like Aeon. Their album Rise To Dominate is a real grower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    Pugsley wrote: »
    Necrophagist played a savage gig in Dublin a few years back too.

    I posted a video up from that gig here. October 2006



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    JoeyD wrote: »
    I posted a video up from that gig here. October 2006


    Sound's perfect there! Good man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Best TDM band about at the moment IMO.
    Beneath the Massacre.Their "Mechanics of Dysfunction" album is frickin awesome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    Best TDM band about at the moment IMO.
    Beneath the Massacre.Their "Mechanics of Dysfunction" album is frickin awesome.


    They're aren't really death metal though, i think deathcore is the applicable term I bought an album of theirs, it's quite rubbish. Technical alright but it does naff all for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Gave them (Beneath the Massacre) a listening to. There's virtually no song-craft going on. Rather, excess at every opportunity. Not my thing at all, personally speaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sound_wave


    JoeyD wrote: »
    I posted a video up from that gig here. October 2006


    Anyone know the name of this song? Its pretty good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    sound_wave wrote: »
    Anyone know the name of this song? Its pretty good.

    Didn't you wait until the end of the video? It's ignominious and pale from epitaph.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sound_wave


    Morf wrote: »
    Didn't you wait until the end of the video? It's ignominious and pale from epitaph.

    Ah yes indeed. Ha! Thanks for that!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    On a related subject, Germany's Obscura have a new album coming out shortly. Two former Necrophagist members, namely Christian and Hannes. I'm adoring what they've on the following page. Deft is all I'll say.

    www.myspace.com/realmofobscura


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭subzero12


    hmm kev from veritas by any chance man thats just guess from thee auld musical tastes cause there rather similar to myself. obscura is rather excellent i must say ,
    have you gotten into bloodbath at all . its a shame with opeth being so big they wont get out there as much as they should .
    and its Al by they way if is lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Cant believe I forgot about the monsters that are Hate Eternal



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bigdeal


    Hey has anyone ever heard of 'sleep terror' the band. awsum.
    seriously best ever. just single guitarist with music programmed but he is the craziest and most talented musician.

    also like 'spawn of possession' . just these technical metal players influence me so much that i find it difficult to not pick up on everything other people are doing that could be better.

    bands like 'necrophagist' are taking giant leaps which the rest of us must aspire towards.

    i play metal guitar, and i just can't get technical enough,, but the real challenge is to have it interesting and keep the groove so its still 'catchy'
    when writing new material my band which i wont name argues constructively about every little detail.
    breaks have to be perfect, time changes modulation harmony ect. an i love it.

    Anyone else feel like this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MeetReality


    Origin are one of my favourite Tech-Death Bands, playing here in May so if your serious about this stuff I'd go see them, incredible live act their bassist is like a ****ing machine onstage, and Burning Skies may be supporting.

    Also, I'd consider Beneath The Massacre a Tech-Death band and not "Deathcore" their newest album is great.

    The newer Visceral Bleeding stuff is more techy so you should check them out too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    Origin are one of my favourite Tech-Death Bands, playing here in May so if your serious about this stuff I'd go see them, incredible live act their bassist is like a ****ing machine onstage, and Burning Skies may be supporting.

    Also, I'd consider Beneath The Massacre a Tech-Death band and not "Deathcore" their newest album is great.

    The newer Visceral Bleeding stuff is more techy so you should check them out too.

    I'm pretty sure you'll find they are deathcore whether you like them or not. Personally I don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭redenemyjoe


    The Faceless - Planetary Duality

    Despised Icon - The Ills Of Modern Man

    Listen to both, cry.

    Also, less than tech, more than generic, Decapitated - Organic Hall...(can't spell it)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bigdeal


    Origin are one of my favourite Tech-Death Bands, playing here in May so if your serious about this stuff I'd go see them, incredible live act their bassist is like a ****ing machine onstage, and Burning Skies may be supporting.

    Also, I'd consider Beneath The Massacre a Tech-Death band and not "Deathcore" their newest album is great.

    The newer Visceral Bleeding stuff is more techy so you should check them out too.

    Ye my band were meant to be playing with ORIGIN in May but my Bassist is unable to play then. Really sucks as i was really looking forward to them. i might go anyway though.
    have every Visceral Bleeding album thanks. I like Beneath The Massacre alot but i dunno, it seems like they tried a little too hard and lacked a little dynamic, but then again its a full force kick in the face.

    ye we played with Burning Skies last week with Misery Index there in Fibbers. Was ****ing great. were you there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bigdeal


    The Faceless - Planetary Duality

    Despised Icon - The Ills Of Modern Man

    Listen to both, cry.

    Also, less than tech, more than generic, Decapitated - Organic Hall...(can't spell it)


    Organic Hallucinations ha. listen to it Daily on my walk to girlfriends house ha. so good. i think Decapitated are one of my favorite, like from Spears of Madness:
    for the ages of the musicians; despite the extremely technical nature of the music, drummer Vitek was only 15 at the time of recording, and guitarist Vogg and vocalist Sauron were only 18.

    15.. god damn. 18. i'm 18 now and thats amazing.
    Like the best Irish bands are Bringing out our Demos E.P.s and maybe first full albums. these boys were so far ahead its not funny.

    say faceless last year that was good.
    Dying Fetus.
    Suffocation
    Nile.
    (the old) Cryptopsy

    Ohhh ****in... anyone else hate the new name Gorrotted have
    .... The Rotted, i dunno. all my friends hate it too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bigdeal


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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!


    Looook at that. My friends and brother got to go but i couldnt. next time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bigdeal


    ha the names on the top of the vid.

    pale and..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Threads have been merged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MeetReality


    Necrophagist seem to have no stage presence at all.

    Ya was at Misery Index 3rd time seeing them, they just get better each time, hopefully they'll be back during the summer tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭redenemyjoe


    Necrophagist are one of the few bands I'd excuse for having weak stage presence, that chap Suiçmez is a pure genius.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Odious Mortem and Decrepit Birth are my latest vices. They're both fantastic, but entirely dependent on one's mood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭redenemyjoe


    On the slightly technical side but more grind than anything else, people should check out Burning Skies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Benighted - Icon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Thought I'd resurrect the auld thread. I must have have listened to Meshuggah's "I" and "Catch-33" about five times each, today; wonderful stuff, really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Any Meshuggah reccomendations, man above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭kevin_de_big


    Current Man Above, I bought "Destroy, Erase, Improve" first. It's likely the easiest to absorb, though that's definitely debatable. "I" and "Catch-33" should likely be the last to get a look; they're superb, but a bit esoteric. Here's a classic of theirs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOd-T58qHLA

    Hopefully you'll enjoy it, mate.


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