And the winner of dreamer of the year is...

frozenfrozen

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm not convinced about his maths skills

the clock was kms now miles. so there were 70kms on it, then it was swapped to count miles, and 14k miles have been put on it

so the car has done over 90k kms, but it currently reads 84km

I think that is what he is saying

millington

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm not convinced about his maths skills

Why? I think this is an estimate based on the last owners information

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

power pants wrote: »

rightly or wrongly, people tend to pay a lot for jap scrap

At the risk of getting a warning here but I have to ask.

Are you just trolling or have you got some sort of mental imbalance?

frozenfrozen

Don't say something like that to him it goes straight to his head. He thinks he's winding everyone up but really he just disrupts enough threads with comments like that, that sometimes he gets a few replies and convinces himself he is le great troll

selectamatic

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica/12028654

At the risk of over shadowing the trolls criticizing one of the greatest jap cars of the nineties I felt this was something deserving of a place in the dreamers thread although a case could be made for it to be in the skangermobiles thread too thanks to dodgy matte black paint job. A 3sfe celica for 4.5k now thats value :P (450 would be more like it so perhaps an extra 0?)

ohnonotgmail

millington wrote: »

Why? I think this is an estimate based on the last owners information

well no. if you take what he says at face value he is saying the clock was changed from miles to KM and the reading is somehow a mix of miles and KM. that makes NO sense.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

And no mention of NCT or tax. Looks horrible, €450 would be too much!

colm_mcm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well no. if you take what he says at face value he is saying the clock was changed from miles to KM and the reading is somehow a mix of miles and KM. that makes NO sense.

Normally what's done is the clock itself won't be changed, but a conversion chip on the signal wire to the speedo effectively only sends 62% of the pulses through, meaning that where you once were showing 100kmph on the clocks when you were you were doing 100kmph, it would now show 62kmph on the dial. Usually they put a sticker over the "k"
This also has the effect of making the speed where the Japanese limiter kicks in to be 180mph instead of 180kmph,
I assume this is a Japanese car that came via the uk

ohnonotgmail

colm_mcm wrote: »

Normally what's done is the clock itself won't be changed, but a conversion chip on the signal wire to the speedo effectively only sends 62% of the pulses through, meaning that where you once were showing 100kmph on the clocks when you were you were doing 100kmph, it would now show 62kmph on the dial. Usually they put a sticker over the "k"
This also has the effect of making the speed where the Japanese limiter kicks in to be 180mph instead of 180kmph,
I assume this is a Japanese car that came via the uk

irrespective of how the clock was changed it doesnt show a mixture of miles and km.

frozenfrozen

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

irrespective of how the clock was changed it doesnt show a mixture of miles and km.

the clock used to tick over every km. it was changed at 70k kms, to tick over every mile

therefore the 84k on the clock actually accounts for 90k+ kms

colm_mcm

But it does though. The odometer would be a mixture of the kms put up before the chip was put in and then the kms put up x0.62

If you had a car with 100,000km on it, then you fitted the chip and did another 100,000km - the odometer reading would be 162,000

ohnonotgmail

frozenfrozen wrote: »

the clock used to tick over every km. it was changed at 70k kms, to tick over every mile

therefore the 84k on the clock actually accounts for 90k+ kms

you think they took a clock that showed 70,000 KM, changed the clock to miles, and then left the reading at 70,000? why would you do that?

colm_mcm

That's generally what they used to do in the uk. Fit the chip and not change the odometer.

ohnonotgmail

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's generally what they used to do in the uk. Fit the chip and not change the odometer.

fair enough. seems a very strange thing to do. for a car with 70K you are basically adding 40K to the mileage.

colm_mcm

These would generally be enthusiast owned and it would be taken for granted that that's what would be done. Owners usually hang on to the auction sheet etc,
Not really a thing here in Ireland, even before kms came in, having km only speedo in a mph country was never a bother!

power pants

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

At the risk of getting a warning here but I have to ask.

Are you just trolling or have you got some sort of mental imbalance?

No mental imbalance. you would have to be a fool to pay 29k for a supra or even 21k

that is just my opinion

YbFocus

power pants wrote: »

No mental imbalance. you would have to be a fool to pay 29k for a supra or even 21k

that is just my opinion

Yeah but you know nothing then.

My opinion of course but also the truth. The rarity of anything makes it increase.
Except for trolls, nobody cares about trolls.

Actually on that note, i always imagine you are a young chap cos I'd hate if you were doing this at any decent age, that'd be very sad and you'd need to take a good luck at your life.

power pants

who's trolling?

power pants

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/toyota/supra

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

power pants wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/toyota/supra

Some of those are not 2jz. They're not in nearly as good condition...oh and they're automatic. They don't even compare to the 21k one here in Ireland. Not to mention the Irish one is original and fsh.

Apples and oranges. And you've no idea what you're talking about.

frozenfrozen

automatic nonturbo
automatic
manual nonturbo
automatic twin turbo for... 15k euros

so that would make a manual twin turbo with less miles and completely stock worth more than 15k euros. which reflects the listed price of 21k

Duke O Smiley

power pants wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/toyota/supra

First car - auto, non turbo

Second car - also auto, non turbo. Rusty n/s sill, ill fitting bumpers front and back etc etc

Third car - non turbo (+ a bit gaudy but thats just imo)

Fourth car - similarly like the third a bit gaudy but thats neither here nor there. Its still €15k plus VRT plus tax and everything else.

I guarantee you will be well into €20k with that bu the end of it all, and its still automatic.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I'm going there.

Power pants, you're a troll.

power pants

just have to agree to disagree

I bet the seller reduces it by another 8k

similar to all the knowledgeable ones on here believeing that the twin cam heap (with no engine) was worth every penny that seller was looking for and would be snapped up instantly.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Do you not understand market prices? Demand for item = price goes up.
This is basic man.

power pants

Yes, I am very familiar with that concept. man

We can all get excited about the car but until someone pays that money it is not the value of the car.

I wonder if anyone will buy it?

Im betting no

OldMrBrennan83

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MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

power pants wrote: »

Yes, I am very familiar with that concept. man

We can all get excited about the car but until someone pays that money it is not the value of the car.

I wonder if anyone will buy it?

Im betting no

Personally I wouldn't pay that for it. But I know lads who have paid that and more for similar skylines. 21k may sound excessive to you but it's what it's worth. The same with that 20k twin cam that was on here a while back, would I pay that much for one, no, but someone in Cork did.

power pants

I would pay and appreciate a decent skyline is worth that type of prices and more all day long.

But not the supra

Also the twin cam I was referring to was a rusty shell, literally. just a shell lying in a farm yard but the experts on here argued it would be snapped up and go for big money.

think I pointed out it was not really a twin cam as there was no engine in it

The car did not sell and as far as Im aware still lying there.

But im a troll :rolleyes:;)

166man

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

I'm going there.

Power pants, you're a troll.

What I find fascinating is how I was accused previously of being a "troll" by certain mods on here and this "power pants" thing has gotten away with blatant trolling of all sorts of good threads and posters in recent times.

It's as if the mods are oblivious or something