Tiger Woods

syngindub

So when is Tiger back then.
Anyone have any clue what's the first tournament he will be playing?
Heard last week is back practising for real. At least, takes a bit of pressure of Paddy when the majors come

conno16

most likely gonna rejoin the tour within the first two weeks of march
should be bubbling over by the masters

can wait to see paddy fade back off into obscurity upon his return
suppose you gotta make hay when the sun shines tho

tigerwoods

paddy didnt fade at the open in carnoustie in 07 or in japan when he bet tiger in a play off but tiger will definitley be stronger,word on the course is that tiger is even hitting it straight of the tee and will come back stronger but will not be match fit no matter how many range balls he hits.Any obstacle that was put in front of him he has always cleared but dont forget about curly from hollywood,new kid on the block

madds

conno16 wrote: »

can wait to see paddy fade back off into obscurity upon his return

I'm assuming you're not an admirer then? :rolleyes:

conno16

dont get me wrong, delighted paddy cashed in when he had the opportunity - may as well be him as opposed to the likes of big phil etc
shame sergio didn't win a major tho, europe could do with him in the bigtime
in my opinion, sergio with a major behind him would be far more of a challenge to woods that paddy could ever dream of
personally i'm just really amazed that such a grafter could win three majors in two years

f22

If you take Irish pride out of the equation I'd have zero time for Harrington at all.

I have alot of admiration for the chap, for his hard work and all he's won but he just doesn't make me want to watch him play at all.

My 2 cents.

conno16

bout the size of it alright
hes too wooden and focused on the bottom line (former accountant ffs) to be likable as a sportsperson
he should feature on the front pages of the sun from time to time etc

Mister Sifter

conno16 wrote: »

bout the size of it alright
hes too wooden and focused on the bottom line (former accountant ffs) to be likable as a sportsperson
he should feature on the front pages of the sun from time to time etc

What a lot of horsesh!t. If there's one thing Harrington can't accused of being, it's money hungry. Hasn't the guy recently turned down bigger sponsorship deals to stick with those who have stood by him?

I don't buy the argument that he's only won the last two majors because Woods has been absent. Harrington has worked incredibly hard to get to where he is. He's now a genuine contender whenever he tees it up anywhere, especially in the majors. I think to say he's only a hard worker is very disingenuous too - did you not see the final round of the Open last year or the back nine of the US PGA? He played incredible golf.

Oh, and i'm pretty much certain that Harrington was on the front page of the sun the past two Julys - and for the only reason i would ever wish to see him on the front cover of the Sun... winning the biggest prize in golf!

ShriekingSheet

conno16 wrote: »

dont get me wrong, delighted paddy cashed in when he had the opportunity - may as well be him as opposed to the likes of big phil etc
shame sergio didn't win a major tho, europe could do with him in the bigtime
in my opinion, sergio with a major behind him would be far more of a challenge to woods that paddy could ever dream of
personally i'm just really amazed that such a grafter could win three majors in two years

Can you offer anything in support of your opinion? Why do you say that Sergio could put it up to TW more than Harrington ever could?

I can't see how anyone who knows golf can hold this opinion and if you can't support it, I can only assume you rate SG higher because he looks cooler in a baseball cap.

Adiaga 2

Well put Graeme. And Harrington didn't come from obscurity to win his 3 majors, he has been one of Europes best performers in majors for the previous 8 years.

conno16

Adiaga 2 wrote: »

he has been one of Europes best performers in majors for the previous 8 years.

just like monty for example?

my point about garcia is that he has the ability to be a real force in golf, he would far surpass anything seve done for example if he got one major under his belt
paddy hacked his way to 2 wins last year and for that he must be credited
but golf is a beautiful game and my point is that paddy does not provide any real value-add to this
you never see any real majestic shots from harro - hes consistent and clearly has his head around winning when in contention with 5/6 to play. thats it tho

f22

conno16 wrote: »

paddy hacked his way to 2 wins last year and for that he must be credited

Throwing yourself to the lions there pal.

I don't think it's possible to hack for 72 holes against a world class field and win any tournament. If there is any superlative I'd use for Harrington, "grind" may be a better fit.

Like him or loathe him, he's far from being a hacker.

kermitpwee

conno16 wrote: »

most likely gonna rejoin the tour within the first two weeks of march
should be bubbling over by the masters

can wait to see paddy fade back off into obscurity upon his return
suppose you gotta make hay when the sun shines tho

Paddy is a superb golfer. He hits the ball far and has a fantastic short game. One thing he does is that at the start of the season his game is not usually fully on. When it all clicks he can take on tiger and has beaten him. For example paddy shot 74 in the pebble beach and when i looked at his score he had over 80% in greens and 90% odd in fairways and 37 putts. Then the following day he had 27 putts and greens were down to mid 50's. This is paddy when he's working on his game.
Like tiger when paddy is winning he is always looking for ways to improve. He is not afraid to alter his method to see whether he can achieve greatness. That is the trademark of a man with balls of steel and a true winner.

When tiger comes to the last nine in a major and he's leading I can tell you one thing he would much prefer to see sergio( who can't putt under pressure) a shot behind then harrington.

Harrington a grafter?

I think you are living in a dream world, to be good you have to work 24/7 thats life. Tigers work ethic is unreal and tiger is superb at grinding out a 70 when he can't hit it past his tool by his own standards.

syngindub

If Tiger is indeed hitting them straight off the tee, I expect him to have it even easier when he returns. This was clearly the weakest part of his game. Usually when your driving or long irons are great, something else pays the price. Can't see it happening to him though.

ShriekingSheet

conno16 wrote: »

but golf is a beautiful game and my point is that paddy does not provide any real value-add to this
you never see any real majestic shots from harro

There's nothing beautiful about watching Garcia putt from inside 6 feet for large portions of the season.

And as for not hitting any real majestic shots I can't believe I even have to post this

Par72

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

There's nothing beautiful about watching Garcia putt from inside 6 feet for large portions of the season.

And as for not hitting any real majestic shots I can't believe I even have to post this

Ha ha, I was just going to post that myself.

kermitpwee

conno16 wrote: »

just like monty for example?

my point about garcia is that he has the ability to be a real force in golf, he would far surpass anything seve done for example if he got one major under his belt
paddy hacked his way to 2 wins last year and for that he must be credited
but golf is a beautiful game and my point is that paddy does not provide any real value-add to this
you never see any real majestic shots from harro - hes consistent and clearly has his head around winning when in contention with 5/6 to play. thats it tho

You are obviously a spotty teen.
Seve was one of the best golfers on the planet and would be so exciting by todays standard. Seve was long too in his era it was only in later years with back trouble that he became short.
Sergio hasn't a hope of beating seve, not a hope.

Paddy did not hack his way. Were you a sleep for the last nine of the open? Paddy played shots that were sublime to say the least, world class even by tiger standards.

As for having his head on for winning, when did you last see tiger playing to the gallery when in contention with 5/6 holes to play?

Tiger is so self centered in tournament golf he will do anything to win with a few holes left. Tiger rarely acknowledges the crowd when in the hunt.

syngindub

still get nervous looking at this.

Hate the little "luck of the Irish" comment they have to throw in every time one of our boys does something magic and not just golf. Really f*cking annoys me.

conno16

kermitpwee wrote: »

When it all clicks he can take on tiger and has beaten him.

so it has "clicked" twice or so during his entire career?
thats world class that is
i'm surprised tiger hasn't just chucked his clubs in the lake by now

i'm not criticising paddy
if he was english or french for example, i'd like to see the comments here on this ethnocentric board

L.O.F.T

Hard work, determination, skill , Top class

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDsPPsLLME

L.O.F.T

conno16 wrote: »

so it has "clicked" twice or so during his entire career?
thats world class that is
i'm surprised tiger hasn't just chucked his clubs in the lake by now

He's been clicking for a long time
National Teams to date
Ryder Cup – (5 appearances) 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008
Dunhill Cup – (5 appearances) 1996 – 2000
World Cup – (11 appearances) 1996 – 2006 (winner in 1997 (with Paul McGinley))
PGA Tour Victories to date
2005 (2 titles) Honda Classic, Barclays Classic
2007 (1) Open Championship
2008 (2) Open Championship, USPGA Championship
Majors and WGC events count on both tours as wins)
European Tour
1996 (1 title) Peugeot Spanish Open
2000 (2) Brazil Sao Paulo 500 years Open, BBVA Open Turespana Masters
2001 (1) Volvo Masters
2002 (1) Dunhill Links Championship
2003 (2) Deutsche Bank Open TPC of Europe, BMW Asian Open
2004 (2) Linde Germans Masters, Omega Hong Kong Open
2006 (1) Dunhill Links Championship
2007 (1) Irish Open
International Victories
2006 Dunlop Phoenix, Japan
Other Victories
2002 Target World Challenge
Irish PGA Championship - (5 titles) - 1998, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008

Myksyk

conno16 wrote: »

so it has "clicked" twice or so during his entire career?
thats world class that is

I have no idea by what criteria you are adjugding Harrington to be a 'hacker' or a 'grinder'. In fact could you please outline these criteria so we can apply them to all golfers ... I have a suspicion you have no objective criteria whatsoever and your entire rant about Harrington is based simply and simplistically on personal 'feelings' and what appears to be simple, old-fashioned begrudgery . If you don't like him say so, but if you're making a claim that he's a hacker who got lucky then back it up please.

The objective facts are that, based on his overall play, he is the third ranked golfer in the world (what a lucky git); he has won 24 professional tournaments (jammy b***ard); he has won the European Tour Order of Merit (only once tho); he has won three Majors (flukey or what?); he has been the European Tour's Player of the year for the last two years (what do they know?); he was the first European to be named the US PGA Player of the year (Flakey Yanks); he is the third placed career money earner on the European Tour (€20 million ... all won by hacking around his entire career tho); he has played on 5 Ryder Cup Teams (because they pitied him).

I have no doubt that Harrington is not a better golfer currently than Tiger Woods. I base this on the FACTS. Tiger has done and won more in golf. Mind you, Harrington could and does still beat Woods, including in his first major. But overall Woods IS a better golfer; but then he's better than everyone.

I'm seriously interested in what criteria you use to judge Harrington as a golfer(apart from that you don't seem to like that he's boring and doesn't appear on the Sun enough), because by any reasonable criteria that I can muster or imagine, he is unarguably and unassailably world class.

PS: It's also head-shakingly baffling that you apply what appear to be almost psychic/imaginary criteria to Sergio telling us what he would have won if he had won a major???!!!

PPS: LMAO, what on earth is wrong with being ethnocentric (or clubcentric or provincecentric or countycentric) when it comes to following sport ... is that not a fairly central aspect of being a sports fan? We can appreciate the brilliance of other sportsstars but we still want Ireland to beat the All-blacks, I still want Munster to beat Perpignon and I still want Harrington (or any other Irish golfer) to beat Woods (or any other golfer).

syngindub

not to mention how many top 5 career finnishes.( jammy )

madds

conno16 wrote: »

my point about garcia is that he has the ability to be a real force in golf, he would far surpass anything seve done for example if he got one major under his belt

I think there are many on this forum who would love to see Garcia get the just rewards his skills deserve and bag a major, but it doesn't work like that. Sergio has all the tools needed to execute every shot in the bag but is lacking the most important trait needed to be a 'great' player.

He is seriously flaky upstairs and for that reason will never surpass or come close to the achievements of Ballesteros, Woods, or indeed Harrington.

conno16

in winning his three majors, do we feel perhaps that paddy was lucky in who he was battling it out with* during the last 9 holes of each competition
to add to my arguement so far, i reckon paddy would still be trophy-less if he was being challenged with someone of any real mental strength

until paddy goes head-to-head with a bigname such as tiger, phil, vijay or henrik etc and sweeps the floor with them - you can forget about me wearing my tricolour underpants on my head

*please feel free to use the term hacking it out with also

Mister Sifter

conno16 wrote: »

until paddy goes head-to-head with a bigname such as tiger, phil, vijay or henrik etc

I'm firmly of the opinion that you're on the wind up here, but anyway. Henrik Stenson? He would give his right arm to have done what Paddy has done in the game.

And if i recall rightly, werent Vijay, Phil and Henrik in the field when Paddy won each of his three majors?

f22

Hmm, has Ollieryanisold made a valiant comeback to the golf forum.

conno16

Graeme1982 wrote: »

And if i recall rightly, werent Vijay, Phil and Henrik in the field when Paddy won each of his three majors?

true but they weren't in contention with half a round to play - thats my whole point
i realise paddy cant pick who he has to defeat over the course of a final 9 holes but i would simply like to see him having to work for a major.
the standard of golf played last year was lower than usual so paddy profited
see how he goes in a playoff against big phil or vijay
my money would be on him cracking and firing tee shots outa bounds etc

gorfield

f22 wrote: »

Hmm, has Ollieryanisold made a valiant comeback to the golf forum.

doubtful until he claims to have been in contention on the back 9 of the uspga championship..........

This fool has no argument. padraig has won 3 majors. 3 MAJORS!!!!!
Dosnt matter who he beat or how he beat them. 3 MAJORS!!!!!!
Greatest irish sportsman ever. (until Rory catches up.....)

Blunder

conno16 wrote: »

in winning his three majors, do we feel perhaps that paddy was lucky in who he was battling it out with* during the last 9 holes of each competition

So you are saying now that he was lucky to be 'battling it out with' on two of those ocassions with the golfer who you believe to be a potential real force in golf and surpass, arguably, the greatest european tour golfer of all time

conno16 wrote: »

until paddy goes head-to-head with a bigname such as tiger, phil, vijay or henrik etc and sweeps the floor with them

Are you now saying that sergio, who you think will be a 'real force' in golf, isnt a 'bigname'. TBH there is only one golfer on that list that I'd think about betting for over Harrington coming down the stretch in a major. And I wouldnt be surprised if I lost the bet on the other one!

conno16 wrote: »

you can forget about me wearing my tricolour underpants on my head

Based upon some of the arguements on here, it wouldnt surprise me if this was a regular occurance....

Myksyk

conno16 wrote: »

...thats my whole point

I'm beginning to think that you may be more than half a point short of a whole point.:p

PhilipMarlowe

I considered posting about the moronic nature of the "fade back off into obscurity" comment this morning and decided it didn't even warrant a response because well, it was so moronic...
As for swashbuckling golf, christ there's loads to choose from...
How about being 8 under par for the back 12 in Sawgrass in 2004... 30 on the back nine... scoring a 3 on each of the back 6 holes. Granted he "only" finished 2nd :rolleyes:

11 putts for the back nine on a Sunday in a Major on route to his 2nd 66 of the weekend... yeah, you get to see that kind of golf all the time...

kermitpwee

conno16 wrote: »

in winning his three majors, do we feel perhaps that paddy was lucky in who he was battling it out with* during the last 9 holes of each competition
to add to my arguement so far, i reckon paddy would still be trophy-less if he was being challenged with someone of any real mental strength

until paddy goes head-to-head with a bigname such as tiger, phil, vijay or henrik etc and sweeps the floor with them - you can forget about me wearing my tricolour underpants on my head

*please feel free to use the term hacking it out with also

I have a good one for you.
Can you name the only golfer in the world that when playing with Tiger has a better stroke average than Tiger?
Still guessing?

It's an irish guy called Padraig Harrington.
I rest my case;)

conno16

fair enough, i can see most of ye feel very strongly about paddy and ye're entitled to yere opinions i suppose
i do believe i'll be ressurecting this topic though in a few weeks time

Myksyk

conno16 wrote: »

fair enough, i can see most of ye feel very strongly about paddy and ye're entitled to yere opinions i suppose
i do believe i'll be ressurecting this topic though in a few weeks time

But in some ways this is the point ... It's very little to do with feelings really. We think he's a great golfer because we've considered the facts and the facts speak for themselves.

We like the guy becauyse he's a great golfer ... we don't think he's a great golfer because we like him!!

We await the resurrection.

PhilipMarlowe

So if Woods finishes ahead of Harrington in the Masters it will be "I told you so".
Or If Harrington doesn't win the Masters it will be "I told you so".
Or if Harrington Wins but he's 'only' playing with Adam Scott or someone on Sunday it will be "I told you so".

Do yourself a favour and look at his record in the majors...
2 top 20's 2 top 5's and 2 wins in The Open
2 top 10's and 2 top 5's in the US Open
2 top 20's, 1 top 10 and 2 top 5's at the Masters
1 top 20 and 1 win at he PGA

Comparing any golfer in the modern era to Tiger is not really a fair exercise in my opinion because Tiger is simply that damn good... he's expected to win every time he tee's it up.
Harrington's record in the Majors reads just fine... even before he won one he had a very strong record... now that he has 3 majors, it's a great one.

Adiaga 2

conno16 wrote: »

i do believe i'll be ressurecting this topic though in a few weeks time

Is Harrington going to be stripped of his three majors and everything else he already achieved in a few weeks time??

I can understand people not liking Harrington or finding him boring or whatever but most of your argument up to now just hasn't been backed up by anything other than your own feelings about the guy. And you said Harrington never beat any of the best in the game down the stretch in a major.. What about Garcia at Carnoustie and then again at the USPGA? This is current world No.2 Garcia, the same guy you earlier said will be better Seve :pac:

Definitely on the wind-up. At least come up with something based on facts next time.

conno16

i'm getting frustrated now...
read my earlier contributions on sergio - at present he doesn't have the balls to win a major
therefore paddy was essentially playing against himself for two of his victorious majors

ShriekingSheet

conno16 wrote: »

i'm getting frustrated now...

Don't.
It's good to debate with other golfers. But when it's (usually) clear neither side is going to convert the other's opinion, you're better off leaving it at that.
There's plenty of other topics you could offer your two cents on or post your own new one. It's not a personal insult when someone disagrees with you. It'd be a shyte forum if everyone agreed on everything.

conno16

one last subject for discussion - when sergio and paddy went head-to-head at the open two years ago, did everyone not think that here we have two of the greatest bottlers going for a win finally
one man was gonna bounch on from there, the other was gonna suffer prob his most painful defeat
clearly this is what has happened
paddys bounce, in my opinion, has prob been about half of what sergio's would have been

f22

Probably best to leave this discussion until after the 4 majors have been played.

Things just seem to be going around in endless circles!

Mister Sifter

Sorry to get this thread back on topic, but...

HIS RETURN, it seems, is imminent. Tiger Woods will be in Tucson in Arizona for next week’s Accenture World Matchplay one way or another, either as a player or fulfilling corporate duties for the tournament’s title sponsor. However, the odds have shortened on the world number one actually playing in the matchplay, where he is the defending champion.

Woods - who hasn’t played since undergoing reconstructive surgery on his knee in the days following his US Open win last June - has until next Friday to confirm if he will play.

If Woods decides to play he could face Europe’s newest star Rory McIlroy in the third round following yesterday’s provisional draw.

If there are no withdrawals Woods would open against Australian Brendan Jones and Dubai Desert Classic champion McIlroy against South African Louis Oosthuizen.

British Open and US PGA champion Padraig Harrington’s first opponent would be American Pat Perez.

While Dustin Johnson’s second tour victory in the weather-shortened Pebble Beach Pro-Am yesterday and Denmark’s Anders Hansen’s win on Sunday in the Vodacom Open on the Sunshine Tour in South Africa enabled them move up the world rankings and to secure late spots in the limited 64-man field for the Accenture, the actual line-up won’t be confirmed until Woods makes his decision.

The speculation has increased in recent days that Woods could return to tournament action ahead of schedule. Mark O’Meara, who met Woods last week, was quoted on wire reports from Florida confirming his friend’s well being. “I would say he’s better than ever . . . his legs bothered him for about three years, and it had been pretty bad. I think the break was probably the best thing that ever happened to him,” said O‘Meara, adding: “Eight months away from the game, it gave him a chance to connect with his daughter, see the birth of his son. I think he’s going to come back better than ever. That’s just my opinion, and I can be wrong. But most of the time with Tiger, I’ve been right.”

Woods, who has held the position of world number one for a total of 535 weeks, has seen the gap close between now number two Sergio Garcia in his eight-month absence from tournament play.

Incidentally, the player most concerned about Woods’s plans is Australian Richard Green who is in 65th position in the latest world rankings.

If Woods does play, then Green will miss out on a place in the matchplay field which is limited to the top 64 available players in the rankings.

Harrington remains third in the world rankings, despite missing the cut at Pebble Beach. The Dubliner competes in the third of a four-tournament stint in the United States where he competes in this week’s Los Angeles Open at Riviera, where Graeme McDowell also resumes tournament play in what will be the first tournament of a long stint stateside that takes him up to the Players Championship in May.

McIlroy’s failure to gain a sponsor’s invite to LA (the request was turned down prior to him winning the Dubai Desert Classic) means the Ulster teenager will have to wait until the Accenture next week for his first professional tournament on the other side of the Atlantic.

However, McIlroy plans to make good use of his time in America this week, pencilling in a visit to the Titleist Peformance Institute for a number of days and scheduling a round of golf on Saturday next with Scotty Cameron, the world’s foremost putter designer.

McIlroy’s spectacular climb into the world’s top 20 has been recognised with him being named yesterday as the first winner of The Race to Dubai European Tour Golfer of the Month award. The 19-year-old was the unanimous choice of the panel after grabbing a one-stroke victory in Dubai.

Although Ireland’s three top ranked players Harrington, McIlroy and McDowell have opted to play in the United States for much of the first part of the season, there’s still a strong Irish contingent competing in this week’s Johnnie Walker tournament in Australia where Damien McGrane, Peter Lawrie, Gary Murphy and Gareth Maybin are included in a field headed by world number 11 Anthony Kim. Maybin has moved to a career high 84th in the latest world rankings, following his sixth place finish in the Malaysian Open on Sunday.

Maybin’s fast start to his first full season on tour, which has seen him earn over €204,000 in rising to 19th on the Race to Dubai standings, has meant that the Team Ireland Golf Trust - who yesterday announced grant funding of €231,000 to 18 aspiring professional players - decided not to provide him with any financial assistance.

Five players - four of them women with cards on the Ladies European Tour - have been awarded the top funding for €20,000 in the latest tranche of awards which have been going for 10 years: Martina Gillen, Claire Coughlan, Rebecca Coakley and Tara Delaney. Former Walker Cup player Jonathan Caldwell, who is in his first season on tour, also received the top funding.

The 18 players selected for funding cover aspiring professionals on both the main men’s and women’s European Tours, as well as players on developmental tours like the EuroPro Tour and the Hooters Tour in America.

Ballybunion GC was yesterday officially confirmed as hosts to the 2009 Irish Seniors Open from June 5th-7th.

L.O.F.T

Graeme1982 wrote: »

Ballybunion GC was yesterday officially confirmed as hosts to the 2009 Irish Seniors Open from June 5th-7th.

I am looking forward to this......and of course Tigers return

Niall09

Here's to hoping Tiger makes it...to round 3. That would just be awesome. It wouldn't surprise me if McIlroy would put up a great fight, or even win.

I'll be tuning in for sure

Graeme1982 wrote: »

Ballybunion GC was yesterday officially confirmed as hosts to the 2009 Irish Seniors Open from June 5th-7th.

Presumably the old course?

I'd love to see them bash around the Cashen

conno16

Niall09 wrote: »

Here's to hoping Tiger makes it...to round 3. That would just be awesome. It wouldn't surprise me if McIlroy would put up a great fight, or even win.

sure it'll deffo be someone from ireland that'll win it anyways
the future top 3 world rankings will prob be

1. rory
2. paddy
3. the small nordie bloke with the american accent

ManFromAtlantis

put a hun on rory mc to win a major before hes 25. personally i thinks he'll win a few more. a good bett.

golf_caddy

conno16 wrote: »

in winning his three majors, do we feel perhaps that paddy was lucky in who he was battling it out with* during the last 9 holes of each competition
to add to my arguement so far, i reckon paddy would still be trophy-less if he was being challenged with someone of any real mental strength

until paddy goes head-to-head with a bigname such as tiger, phil, vijay or henrik etc and sweeps the floor with them - you can forget about me wearing my tricolour underpants on my head

*please feel free to use the term hacking it out with also

One of the major difference's between the major's and any other golf tournament is the history attached to them... the list of past champions , the history attached to the famous courses etc etc....

Not only had Harrington to battle it out with Sergio and Greg and Ian (Poulter) during his triumphs.... he also had to battle with the many legends whose names were already on the trophy in order to get his name on the trophy.

Of all the golfers who ever played the game of Golf only 25 players in the entire history of the game have won more major championships than "our own" Padraig Harrington...

This fact alone should be reason enough for you to wear

" my tricolour underpants on my head "

madds

L.O.F.T wrote: »

I am looking forward to this......and of course Tigers return

Anyone know what station will be televising the Matchplay?

f22

Sky as far as I remember

gorfield

conno16 wrote: »

sure it'll deffo be someone from ireland that'll win it anyways
the future top 3 world rankings will prob be

1. rory
2. paddy
3. the small nordie bloke with the american accent

No 3 is a disgusting comment.:mad: you are on this forum to cause trouble, im calling for you to be banned.

Adiaga 2

I know this is not an English writing forum but does anyone else find it strange that conno16 will happily use commas, apostrophes, hyphens, etc. but doesn't seem to know what a full stop is or a capital letter.. I'm having a go because his posts are easily read and understood but it does seem a bit odd