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Inject life back into the economy. Remove Smoking Ban

  • 13-02-2009 3:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭


    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    I for one would not mind being back in a warm pub smoking fags into some strangers face.

    If the Americans can repeal the ban on alcohol then surely we can repeal this law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Berty wrote: »
    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    I for one would not mind being back in a warm pub smoking fags into some strangers face.

    If the Americans can repeal the ban on alcohol then surely we can repeal this law.

    Please have my babies.

    -Funk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭NickCarraway


    Berty wrote: »
    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    I for one would not mind being back in a warm pub smoking fags into some strangers face.

    If the Americans can repeal the ban on alcohol then surely we can repeal this law.

    Not a chance, mate. Things are bad enough without someone blowing their smoke all over me on a night out. Just because we're in recession does not mean we literally have to revert to 1982!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Cue the bastards shouting 'smoking causes terrorism' etc. etc.

    Oh and +1 to the OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Better yet ... make smoking mandatory!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    I don't mind the smoking ban, stepping out for "fresh air" is very welcoming after 6 beers. I think a better course of action is to kill all those in HSE administration and replace them with people who know what they're doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    If I have to go outside to smoke then the flatulent people in this world should have to go outside as well. Im not happy inhaling their anal emmissions either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭Mingey


    Lets bring back drink driving also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Berty wrote: »
    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    I for one would not mind being back in a warm pub smoking fags into some strangers face.

    If the Americans can repeal the ban on alcohol then surely we can repeal this law.

    Indeed. Repeal the ban and abolish the "Office For Tobacco Control".

    (I'm no longer a smoker, but would appreciate the return of atmo to the pubs)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Please don't remove it.
    It makes going out on the town almost tolerable with it in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    They should build smoke pubs.Segregete the smokers and Non-smoker!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    ClioV6 wrote: »
    Please don't remove it.
    It makes going out on the town almost tolerable with it in place.

    Bloody non smokers. Never happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I agree. I was in the pub last night and there was nobody in there at all. Not a soul.

    It's the smoking ban what done caused this here Resessun.

    Plus - do you know how much a HSE worker gets paid? It's like at least 20 million a year. Sack a few of them and that's a saving of eh..... well I'm not good at sums but it's a lot.

    And also more people will smoke so that's more tax for the government which I'm sure they'll use as wisely as they always do.

    And then we'll be back on top of the world again in no time!

    Yay! Philip Morris for Taoiseach!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Berty wrote: »
    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    I for one would not mind being back in a warm pub smoking fags into some strangers face.

    If the Americans can repeal the ban on alcohol then surely we can repeal this law.

    Aye, lets increase heart problems more so again, put hospitals more under strain at this crucial time and lets see more money wasted on cigs and smoking habits harder to kick.

    Yep, great idea. Jeeze!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    I for one welcome our new smoking Overlords


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Wagon wrote: »
    Bloody non smokers. Never happy.

    Well there's still the teeny boppers to get rid of too.

    You know the ones..a few smirnoff ices and they're gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Biggins wrote: »
    Aye, lets increase heart problems more so again, put hospitals more under strain at this crucial time and lets see more money wasted on cigs and smoking habits harder to kick.

    Yep, great idea. Jeeze!!! :rolleyes:

    Oh yeah because people suddenly stopped smoking when the ash trays were removed. People smoke more now than before actually. When you are outside having a conversation and somebody new comes out and joins in you will invariably light up another cigarette to continue your conversation.

    Or you go outside more because the conversation inside is boring, or the hope of meeting somebody outside to talk to, or the chance of meeting a girl/guy outside on their own also to chat up.

    People go out for a cigarette through peer pressure also because somebody stands up and says "who's going out for a cig?" and people who may not have been considering smoking suddenly go out smoking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Berty wrote: »
    ...People smoke more now than before actually...

    Proof statistics or GTFO!
    The mentality of some people astounds the rest of us!
    Increase cancer rates and filling hospital beds is really going to help our economy. Yea, great thinking there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭NickCarraway


    Wagon wrote: »
    I don't mind the smoking ban, stepping out for "fresh air" is very welcoming after 6 beers. I think a better course of action is to kill all those in HSE administration and replace them with people who know what they're doing.
    Nodin wrote: »
    Indeed. Repeal the ban and abolish the "Office For Tobacco Control".

    (I'm no longer a smoker, but would appreciate the return of atmo to the pubs)

    I prefer my atmosphere as God intended - 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen.
    Biggins wrote: »
    Aye, lets increase heart problems more so again, put hospitals more under strain at this crucial time and lets see more money wasted on cigs and smoking habits harder to kick.

    Yep, great idea. Jeeze!!! :rolleyes:

    Yeah has its merits. More cancer and heart disease = less people living to old age = fewer people to look after.
    Just make the smokers promise they won't go to hospital when ill and perform their patriotic duty by dying at home, uncared for.

    That and firing/firing at/drowning all HSE admin staff would solve all the heath services woes:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭NickCarraway


    Berty wrote: »
    Or you go outside more because the conversation inside is boring, or the hope of meeting somebody outside to talk to, or the chance of meeting a girl/guy outside on their own also to chat up.

    So Berty, you like to get people by themselves outside pubs, do you? And Then what, you fiend?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Berty wrote: »
    Remove smoking ban and you can sack some wasters in the HSE going around from pub to pub sniffing the air and people might start going back into the pubs.

    Nothing to do with high prices then. Must stop going up north and spend my hard earned dosh on the publicans :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Biggins. Im waiting..............come on....................


    Turn this thread into a political rant like you always do. :rolleyes:

    This is AH, should I need to remind you

    If you are really taking this thread seriously then GTFO yourself. :D



    Statistics. Jeez yourself. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Berty wrote: »
    If I have to go outside to smoke then the flatulent people in this world should have to go outside as well. Im not happy inhaling their anal emmissions either.

    Your logic is fcuking astounding!!!!

    A) Smoking ban gets lifted, I am bombing Pubs that allow it.
    B) Farting can't be helped, and farts are fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Y
    B) Farting can't be helped, and farts are fantastic.

    Hhmm better an empty house than a bad lodger notion. I like it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    why not just bypass getting rid of the smoking ban?come on... Heart attacks for all!
    :rolleyes:

    In fact why not just make it mandatory for everyone to drink a liter of whiskey a day?? forcing something like this on people clearly has no health implications....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Don't think repealing the smoking ban would help at all - the problem is the RIDICULOUS prices in pubs, not the smoking ban.

    Also its easier to have a crafty joint outisde ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    hobochris wrote: »
    why not just bypass getting rid of the smoking ban?come on... Heart attacks for all!
    :rolleyes:

    In fact why not just make it mandatory for everyone to drink a liter of whiskey a day?? forcing something like this one people clearly has no health implications....

    You mean it's not???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    BEST THREAD STARTED ON BOARDS IN A LONG TIME


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    You mean it's not???

    (it is just don't tell anybody else)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    BEST THREAD STARTED ON BOARDS IN A LONG TIME

    Ow my eye's.

    No need to shout.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    jim o doom wrote: »
    Don't think repealing the smoking ban would help at all - the problem is the RIDICULOUS prices in pubs, not the smoking ban.

    Also its easier to have a crafty joint outisde ;)

    If one was thinking with a head on straight, lowering the huge gov tax on the price of drink might help fill the pubs again but to repeal an EUROPEAN brought in based law, is not going to help - at all.

    Won't happen - can't happen - never will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Biggins wrote: »
    Proof statistics or GTFO!
    The mentality of some people astounds the rest of us!
    Increase cancer rates and filling hospital beds is really going to help our economy. Yea, great thinking there!

    Smoking doesnt cause cancer. Fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    BEST THREAD STARTED ON BOARDS IN A LONG TIME

    Do you shout while typing in capitals??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Ow my eye's.

    No need to shout.


    Sorry , I shout when I'm excited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,596 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Please have my babies.

    -Funk

    He can't. Haven't you heard? Smoking makes you infertile.







    Oh, and he's a man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Caoimhín wrote: »
    Smoking doesnt cause cancer. Fact.

    lol :pac: Yep, this is AH alright!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Wouldn't it be a better idea to make booze a lot cheaper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Kold wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be a better idea to make booze a lot cheaper?

    Not really because then people would say that they should reduce the VAT on medicine, condoms, petrol, porn, jaguar etc etc instead of alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    ClioV6 wrote: »
    Well there's still the teeny boppers to get rid of too.

    You know the ones..a few smirnoff ices and they're gone.

    Those **** are mainly first years from Trinity and UCD. I dont know any other way then to destroy UCD and Trinity. I think many would welcome that idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Berty wrote: »
    Not really because then people would say that they should reduce the VAT on medicine, condoms, petrol, porn, jaguar etc etc instead of alcohol.

    They should. If they're going to cut income, they need to cut the price of day to day living and tax kill the rich bankers that got us into this mess.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Berty wrote: »
    Not really because then people would say that they should reduce the VAT on medicine, condoms, petrol, porn, jaguar etc etc instead of alcohol.

    There is a difference between basic items, vital items and other items that can be classed as leisure and/or luxury items.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Biggins wrote: »
    There is a difference between basic items, vital items and other items that can be classed as leisure and/or luxury items.

    Ah, yet all the things I mentioned are more important than cigarettes and alcohol so reducing their duties would supercede cigarettes and alcohol.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Berty wrote: »
    Ah, yet all the things I mentioned are more important than cigarettes and alcohol so reducing their duties would supercede cigarettes and alcohol.

    I agree. Medicine, condoms, petrol are things that could be considered more and made possibly cheaper by less tax.

    We got off the point a bit but less on cigs and repeal of the law on cigs is something that is not going to happen.
    Thats just the way it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    It think the point of AH and threads on AH was missed here. I never thought it was going to happen because I put a thread on boards.ie anyway.

    If something in this country needs to go its lollypop ladies who forgot to hand in their uniform when they were replaced with pelican crossing and traffic lights. They are next on the councils lists for removal I hope. What a waste of money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Berty wrote: »
    Ah, yet all the things I mentioned are more important than cigarettes and alcohol so reducing their duties would supercede cigarettes and alcohol.

    Yes but other countries have duties on booze, we have a disgustingly large duty on booze. As the price of booze went up, the average intake did not go down in any huge way, booze is seen as rather more than a luxury, it's a pastime most of us partake in. It would sure soften the blow of wage cuts, and it would revive the failing pub/club industry. I'm not saying make no money from it, I'm just saying stop raping us for trying to get away from the fact that they're raping us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Myxomatosis


    Brining back drink driving as an acceptable act would do wonders for all of those pubs on main roads in the middle of nowhere.

    I remember the days when my father would drive us home and he would be absolutely pissed off his face. He'd drive at around 10 miles/hr so it would take an age to get home.

    Ah those were the days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Want to save this economy. Legalise drugs. At least the hard drugs don't cause cancer and you get high off them. Not like tobacco the most useless drug ever discovered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Myxomatosis


    If you really want to save the ecomony we have to cut ties with all nations, pull out of the EU, stop all importing and exporting and set up our own "private" internal economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Super Sidious


    Great plan there... lift smoking ban... fire HSE employee's... bound to make millions from it as a result.

    Untill pub employees end up sueing the Government for millions when they become ill as a result... even if the smoke is not to blame...

    "I worked in a pub for years after the ban was lifted... I have cancer... now im sueing"

    The smoking ban is not the blame for people not going to pubs, its the fucking prices... as well as the fact nobody has any money.

    Stupidest idea i've ever heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭ART6


    hobochris wrote: »
    why not just bypass getting rid of the smoking ban?come on... Heart attacks for all!
    :rolleyes:

    In fact why not just make it mandatory for everyone to drink a liter of whiskey a day?? forcing something like this on people clearly has no health implications....

    Ah now, you're speaking my language. Does this mean my habit would then be acceptable? Have you considered standing for election?

    Anyway, two things I notice from the smoking ban: Just how smelly with BO Irish pubs really are, and how difficult it is to get served when all the bar staff are outside having a fag.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    flynner13 wrote: »
    "I worked in a pub for years after the ban was lifted... I have cancer... now im sueing"

    .

    Im sorry, I was in the FCA. What did you just say? :confused:


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