Sick of it.....

banshee_bones

Anybody else here COMPLETELY sick of reading all the "dole bashing" posts/threads in here?


Were in a recession, yes there are THOUSANDS of people unemployed.
(and yes i am one of them)

So get over it. :mad:

Sorry but not everyone on the dole conforms to some narrow minded peoples stereotype of dole-monkey ness here, we dont all sit around eating cereal and watching tv all day.

I have an inbox full of emails about jobs i have applied for, replies from companies about jobs i applied for, and emails about interviews. I also went to college for four years and never imagined that when i graduated things would be like this. and im also sure im not the only one who is frankly well and truly fed up of alot of people on here calling us "wasters" and saying that we "will not be contributing to society in the near future".



Rant over..... anyone else feeling the same way?

themont85

What's the point of starting a new thread about it which will lead to another debate over the dole and more posters expressing views which you are 'sick of' already?

Plus Nigs, another recession thread.

tribulus

The threads didn't really strike me as being dole bashing. Well, more bashing of people who've been on it years and are seemingly quite happy to stay that way i.e wasters.

I'm not on the dole yet though there's redundancies being announced in my company in two weeks. I guess it would piss me off being called a waster when I'm actively looking for jobs but I guess in times like these people will always point the finger at someone.

Kernel

Get a job.

phasers

Did you do an Arts degree?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I would love a packet of banshee bones right now, where the hell would ya get a packet?


People on the dole are wasters, uneducated and more than likely criminals. Shouldn't we make them work on the railroad or something?

pvt.joker

How about you spend less time here moaning about "dole bashers", and more time looking for a job.
Waster.

banshee_bones

themont85 wrote: »

What's the point of starting a new thread about it which will lead to another debate over the dole and more posters expressing views which you are 'sick of' already?

Plus Nigs, another recession thread.

No. You missed the point.


It was to other people who are like myself, working part time and being supplemented by the social welfare.
Its not an inviatation for more people to call us wasters.
It was hoped that maybe some of the other people in a boat like myself could express their opinions.

tribulus

Dillon Uptight Quid wrote: »

I would love a packet of banshee bones right now, where the hell would ya get a packet?


People on the dole are wasters, uneducated and more than likely criminals. Shouldn't we make them work on the railroad or something?

You play devils advocate very well sir *tips hat*

phasers

banshee_bones wrote: »

working part time and being supplemented by the social welfare.

someone call the guards!

Highsider

Get a job ya bum ya

themont85

banshee_bones wrote: »

No. You missed the point.


It was to other people who are like myself, working part time and being supplemented by the social welfare.
Its not an inviatation for more people to call us wasters.
It was hoped that maybe some of the other people in a boat like myself could express their opinions.

Threads, especially in After Hours are never a one way street i.e you'll get different views from different posters. What did you want a love in between all the unemployed out there? That is why by saying in the thread title 'I'm sick of it' you're inviting more posts and debate which you've already said you were sick of. Makes no sense to me.

Dudess

Kernel wrote: »

Get a job.

Highsider wrote: »

Get a job ya bum ya

You might have heard of this thing called the recession - it means there aren't jobs to get...

pvt.joker wrote: »

How about you spend less time here moaning about "dole bashers", and more time looking for a job.
Waster.

And you know the OP hasn't been spending hours looking for a job versus taking a few minutes to start this thread... how?

javaboy

pvt.joker wrote: »

How about you spend less time here moaning about "dole bashers", and more time looking for a job.
Waster.

Cut it out.

Dudess

Dudess wrote: »

You might have heard of this thing called the recession - it means there aren't jobs to get...

And you know the OP hasn't been spending hours looking for a job versus taking a view minutes to start this thread... how?

obvious troll was obvious

PirateShampoo

Its 6 pm in the evening why arnt you out looking for work?

I know how you feel, im in the same boat. And its not a very nice place to be.

Danbo!

Dudess wrote: »

You might have heard of this thing called the recession - it means there aren't jobs to get...

And you know the OP hasn't been spending hours looking for a job versus taking a view minutes to start this thread... how?

Main Entry:
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Pronunciation:
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Function:
noun
Etymology:
French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
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1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

banshee_bones

phasers wrote: »

Did you do an Arts degree?

why?



is it only B.A Graduates who are unemployed now is it?

Nolanger

For those who hated the Celtic Tiger this is their revenge. Accused of being scaremongers we were proved correct - a pessimist is never disappointed

Dudess

noblestee wrote: »

Main Entry:
sar·casm
Pronunciation:
\ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
Date:
1550

1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

Call it AH-induced cynicism. There are unfortunately AH regulars who actually do think like that.

tribulus

BSc. too

Will genuinely work for free if job is someway related to degree, contact by PM please...

Degsy

Dudess wrote: »

You might have heard of this thing called the recession - it means there aren't jobs to get...

And you might have heard of a thing called Media Buzzwords..recession is the word they're bandying around now.
As for NO jobs..hmm
http://www.irishjobs.ie/

latenia

pvt.joker wrote: »

How about you spend less time here moaning about "dole bashers", and more time looking for a job.
Waster.

Why don't you spend less time moaning about your pension levy. Pig

javaboy

Degsy wrote: »

And you might have heard of a thing called Media Buzzwords..recession is the word they're bandying around now.

Recession isn't just a buzzword. It's an economic term with a fairly widely accepted meaning: Two subsequent quarters of economic decline. Something like that.

javaboy

latenia wrote: »

Why don't you spend less time moaning about your pension levy. Pig

Any more personal abuse will lead to infractions/bans.

Degsy

javaboy wrote: »

Recession isn't just a buzzword. It's an economic term with a fairly widely accepted meaning: Two subsequent quarters of economic decline. Something like that.

Not many economists among the rank and file though who'd understand the precise meaning is there?
Mostly people get thier information form the media zeitgeist and this week's Word For Today is "Recession".

banshee_bones

Degsy wrote: »

Not many economists among the rank and file though who'd understand the precise meaning is there?
Mostly people get thier information form the media zeitgeist and this week's Word For Today is "Recession".

ha ha more like word of the year so far! hard to escape it when you hear about more job losses and cutbacks every day in the media...

RasTa

banshee_bones wrote: »

No. You missed the point.


It was to other people who are like myself, working part time and being supplemented by the social welfare.
Its not an inviatation for more people to call us wasters.
It was hoped that maybe some of the other people in a boat like myself could express their opinions.

My local Spar is looking for Deli staff. Would you like me to hand in you're CV??

javaboy

javaboy wrote: »

Recession isn't just a buzzword. It's an economic term with a fairly widely accepted meaning: Two subsequent quarters of economic decline. Something like that.

how many quarters is a depression do ya know?

Borneo Fnctn

pvt.joker wrote: »

How about you spend less time here moaning about "dole bashers", and more time looking for a job.
Waster.

High five Joker!

MagicMarker

I really feel for those without a job. I would be well and truly fúcked if I didn't have one. I was lucky enough to find one back in November, but i'm on a 6 month probation and although the company I work for are in no way effected by the recession I won't be at all comfortable until I have a permanent contract signed.

carlybabe1

phasers wrote: »

Did you do an Arts degree?

Did you go to college?? arts degrees are 3 years, the op clearly said 4

I wouldnt take offence op, there are those who sponge, but you know you're not one of them so dont take personally

banshee_bones

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Did you go to college?? arts degrees are 3 years, the op clearly said 4

I wouldnt take offence op, there are those who sponge, but you know you're not one of them so dont take personally

thanks carlybabe1!

nah not taking it personally per se, guess i should have said "tired of it" rather than sick!

carlybabe1

banshee_bones wrote: »

thanks carlybabe1!

nah not taking it personally per se, guess i should have said "tired of it" rather than sick!

Not havin a laugh or anythin, but what about going back? PHD or somethin? theres quite a few scholarships out there if you're results are good enough and depending on where you live theres partnership places that can help too

Dudess

Nolanger wrote: »

For those who hated the Celtic Tiger this is their revenge. Accused of being scaremongers we were proved correct - a pessimist is never disappointed

Well you obviously have a job...

jackpalance wrote: »

High five Joker!

As have you. Why "high five"? Because he "brilliantly" told the OP to "get a job" when the country is in recession?

javaboy

Deleted User wrote: »

how many quarters is a depression do ya know?

A depression's got more quarters than a recession's got.

banshee_bones

Dont worry I have it covered. :pac:
Have applied already for Masters, have couple more MA's to apply for and im done! Will have to wait and see which University will have me! Sickened that i still have to wait til September, would have loved if the MA's i applied to started in January

Dudess

Degsy wrote: »

Not many economists among the rank and file though who'd understand the precise meaning is there?

I'm not an economist and I understand it means something like this: the country has no money and keeps on losing money it doesn't have.

Mostly people get thier information form the media zeitgeist and this week's Word For Today is "Recession".

Eh, yeah...

LOL at people who think anyone out of work is so by choice and unable to find a job by choice. A part of me kinda hopes they lose their jobs...

tribulus

banshee_bones wrote: »

Dont worry I have it covered. :pac:
Have applied already for Masters, have couple more MA's to apply for and im done! Will have to wait and see which University will have me! Sickened that i still have to wait til September, would have loved if the MA's i applied to started in January

I'd have no problem doing a masters, I have the grades for it but it wouldn't help out my situation which is lack of experience. All it would do for me is make another year older with more qualifications and still no experience, bah.

Dudess

tribulus wrote: »

BSc. too

Will genuinely work for free if job is someway related to degree, contact by PM please...

Well that doesn't make sense. In this climate, forget about what you're qualified in, just work at anything in order to have an income/get out of the house, but keep applying for degree-related stuff. You'll get it eventually.

banshee_bones

tribulus wrote: »

I'd have no problem doing a masters, I have the grades for it but it wouldn't help out my situation which is lack of experience. All it would do for me is make another year older with more qualifications and still no experience, bah.

Ah the other side of the story. That sucks, well would having an MA add a few figures to your salary when you do get something related to your qualification and experience?

dr.bollocko

jackpalance wrote: »

High five Joker!

Cut it out means cut it out Curly. That applies to you and anyone else on this thread.

tribulus

Dudess wrote: »

Well that doesn't make sense. In this climate, forget about what you're qualified in, just work at anything in order to have an income/get out of the house, but keep applying for degree-related stuff. You'll get it eventually.

I have a job, just might not for much longer and it's less than the dole, lol.
I've no problem staying at home for another 6 months if I can get some internship/unpaid work. I'm trying to plan ahead because I can't see things improving enough for a few years so I have to act now and get into a relevant industry.

Dudess

Degsy wrote: »

And you might have heard of a thing called Media Buzzwords..recession is the word they're bandying around now.
As for NO jobs..hmm
http://www.irishjobs.ie/

Oh there's a tiny few jobs all right... not enough to meet the number of people being laid off though. So it's a bit much to expect a person to "get a job" just like that... maybe they will eventually but they could be waiting a long time.
And as for job websites - you can be sure, thanks to recruitment consultants, there appears to be far more jobs than there actually is. I know of one particular position a friend was going for and it was advertised by probably every recruitment consultant in Ireland - and sometimes more than one ad would be uploaded, just worded differently.

MagicMarker

Lol... linking to Irishjobs.ie has just solved all our worries degsy, you da man!!

Yes, there are jobs, there will ALWAYS be jobs. The thing is, there are now less jobs, and instead of having 10 people compete for one job, you probably have about 30 competing*

Do you think 2% of the population who become unemployed over the last year did so for shíts and giggles?


*Numbers may not be exact, but you get the idea.

SoupyNorman

Degsy wrote: »

And you might have heard of a thing called Media Buzzwords..recession is the word they're bandying around now.
As for NO jobs..hmm
http://www.irishjobs.ie/

At the moment 'Buzzword' sums up this the current economic climate, It's easy fodder for the saggy faced bints and ogars in Dail Eireann.

It's the quickest get out clause for people who paid 450k using a 100% mortgage for a one bed apartment in Sallynoggin.

And theres the bare faced cheek of our public sector friends losing a few quid from their paypacket (which is going into their pension fund), IMO...Job Security is THE single most valuable thing at the moment and yet they will still pi$$, moan and strike at the first opportunity.

We live in a free market economy, an economy fluctuates due to things that were done or not done. I dont think there should be any interference from the government and let the banks collapse and let them claw their way out of the steaming pile of turds they landed themselves in...It needs to be let bottom out naturally. This artificial propping up of the economy is ill-conceived at best and championed by two solicitors, it's going to be a massacre.



Bottom line is,

There is a huge amount of employment out there, only difference is that employers will be a little more selective nowadays, a survival of the fittest mentality will emerge and the slackers will stay on the dole and the efficient, productive worker will get the job..Ideally.



Its not officially a recession until butter vouchers are brought back.

Dudess

bravestarr082 wrote: »

It's the quickest get out clause for people who paid 450k using a 100% mortgage for a one bed apartment in Sallynoggin.

While that was ill-advised (I'm thinking back to the thread about the €2 million or whatever two-bedroom apartments in Stillorgan thread - and people didn't seem to think it was ludicrously frivolous to buy one of them. That was literally a few months ago - my, how things have changed) "recession" is not an excuse or a get-out clause for people who have lost their jobs and are having difficulty finding another one. Don't tar sensible but unlucky people with the same brush as the flash, over-spending eejits.

And theres the bare faced cheek of our public sector friends losing a few quid from their paypacket (which is going into their pension fund), IMO...Job Security is THE single most valuable thing at the moment and yet they will still pi$$, moan and strike at the first opportunity.

As a public sector worker (not permanent but haven't been told I'm definitely out of a job soon either) I agree completely.

Biggins

I'm just sick of all the bitching when a lot are ignoring who should be given out to or about mostly!

Quit the in-fighting and turning on each other. Its non-productive, soul destroying and a waste of good effort which should be directed in the right direction!

Highsider

Dudess wrote: »

You might have heard of this thing called the recession - it means there aren't jobs to get...

And you know the OP hasn't been spending hours looking for a job versus taking a view minutes to start this thread... how?

Oh dear..Facepalm of the week

Dudess

As I said, I'm just used to people on After Hours genuinely thinking that way. You can even see it elsewhere on this thread...

WoollyRedHat

javaboy wrote: »

A depression's got more quarters than a recession's got.

Odd. You'd think that a depression would have less quarters to give around if it is even worse than a recession.