Bloomin Unreal - Madness!

Biggins

IF your sick of Government/depression/Banks, etc threads - READ NO FURTHER.

For everyone else, the government as of six this evening has announced that they are giving the banks come Monday 7 Billion Euro (was 2, then 4, now 7, next month - who knows!).
The good news is that despite the government trying to save 2 Billion in spending,
they are at the same time going to spend 4.5 Billion on a campaign to get us to cycle more - I kid you not!
This campaign was announced by Transport minister Noel Demsey Thursday, if you missed it.

I have just one question - Fianna Fail is telling us to get on our bikes - when the fcuk are we going to tell them to get on theirs and not come back?

4.5 BILLION WASTED FOR FRAK'S SAKE!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Overheal

Bloomin? Madness? This is SPARTAAAA!!







Actually I wish it were Sparta, they'd just cut off the heads of the Bank CEOs and call it a day.

Quazzie

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!

li@mo

surely not 4.5 BILLION???

that cant be right

Ross_Mahon

They can get the boat!

yoshytoshy

li@mo wrote: »

surely not 4.5 BILLION???

that cant be right

Yeah heard that myself aswell on the radio ,dickey birds they are.

SoWatchaWant

Unacceptable. Sure what's the point of having a car if you're not going to drive it?

Queen-Mise

li@mo wrote: »

surely not 4.5 BILLION???

that cant be right

I agree, it does seem excessively big

Biggins

li@mo wrote: »

surely not 4.5 BILLION???

that cant be right

The figure was quoted in in the Irish Times, The Metro, Independent, Irish Mail and the Mirror so far that I could see yesterday.

4.5 BILLION!

This spending is despite the fact that the government in all their wisdom is scraping around to try and save just under half that this year!

Scanning one article RIGHT NOW.

yoshytoshy

Maybe it's a project that would take so long ,that they can only spend a few million a year. But yet it looks like we have loads of money ??

SouthKerry

In fairness to the goverment and im no fan of it, the billions there going to give the banks is not taxpayers money, its from the national pension fund and they get a percentage interest for providing the money, so its a investment, the pension fund managers were investing the money anyway so this way they are garanteed a return unlike the stockmarket.

P.S I thinking of buying a bike shop so i can get a drunk of that sweet 4.5 million, so quit your jibba jabing biggins lol.

Biggins

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Maybe it's a project that would take so long ,that they can only spend a few million a year. But yet it looks like we have loads of money ??

It would be nice to think that but at a few million a year, just how many years do you think a campaign is going to be!!!

Fianna Fail KNOWS they would be way out of power at that rate - a long time!

Here is an example article:

Berty

There are 10 million bicycles in Bejing and only 6 million people. We bought their old navy ships, how about buying some bikes?

yoshytoshy

Biggins wrote: »

It would be nice to think that but at a few million a year, just how many years do you think a campaign is going to be!!!

Fianna Fail KNOWS they would be way out of power at that rate - a long time!

Here is an example article:

It's ridiculous alright ,cycling is a culture is countries where it's popular. You can't buy culture ,you can only promote whats already here.
They'll make a b@lls with it ,spending that amount of money.

Biggins

I mean seriously, just look at the wages in this article that Cowen's advisers are getting.


My next question is, are they worth this money when clearly they are making so many fcuk-ups!

OPENROAD

Biggins wrote: »

My next question is, are they worth this money when clealy they are making so many fcuk-ups!

If only we were like the French.

yoshytoshy

Biggins wrote: »

My next question is, are they worth this money when clearly they are making so many fcuk-ups!

There must have been such a HUGE excess in revenue ,that what they got paid was buttons to them.
Looking at it from their point of view ,they probably had plans like anyone else ,but there was just too much money around for them to handle what was really going on.

Agent Smith

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

DubLass

Time to get me oul Penny Farthing out of the shed then ....sigh :rolleyes:

Krieg

For 4.5 billion they could buy everyone in Ireland a bike
Is that what they are planning to do?

ejmaztec

DubLass wrote: »

Time to get me oul Penny Farthing out of the shed then ....sigh :rolleyes:

You'll have to make do with the farthing - the government took the penny.

galwayrush

Wow, 4.5 billion on something unworkable, and yet they refused to spend 10 million on a vacine that would save women's lives.
Brainless twats, shame on the fools who voted them in.:(

Adamcp898

Berty wrote: »

There are 10 million bicycles in Bejing and only 6 million people. We bought their old navy ships, how about buying some bikes?

There's 13 million people in Beijing..............

and if we're spending 4 and a half billion on bikes I want a new one thank you very much from them not a second hand rickshaw

Peanut

edit: Seems the cycle scheme is part of a bigger transport plan, document link from RTE news here

Guy:Incognito

Peanut wrote: »

edit: Seems the cycle scheme is part of a bigger transport plan, document link from RTE news here

Ah but all the rantign has already started, no point stopping them now.

Fact checking is for nurdz!!!!!!!!!!!

Biggins

The problem is, and I mean this genuinely, we are not a nation of cyclists. To begin with - we are not the Chinese, we for the vast majority have not been born into a nation that can't afford or work towards owning some form of motorised transport. We are a nation that are NOT going to abandon our moror wheels by the bulk of any kind, either if the government wishes it or not. Its simply not in our nature and culture.

* Looking at it practically, ask yourself. as a family man/woman with kids alone, would you allow them/you to cycle in bulk/group into Dublin/any mad busy city with buses/trucks, etc ploughing through it? In most cases, I suspect not. The Chinese might do it but they face thousands of more bikes on the roads beside them than car/trucks/etc.

* Does out so far out of touch government really think that we are going to use public transport more anyway when they have just announced cutting to over 100 bus routes to begin with and that's just Dublin! Wait till they get around to the rest of our cities!

Knowing this and more... SERIOUSLY, what is the point of throwing (because that what they are going), throwing away 4.5 BILLION on what is just a campaign!
They are not building anything, they are not buying anything (except PR work), they are not funding a basic service like fire, hospital or education.

Its 4.5 BILLION that is going down the drain for a disgusting NOTHING!

That's a crime of financial incompetence.

Guy:Incognito

Biggins wrote: »

The problem is, and I mean this genuinely, we are not a nation of cyclists. .

The problem is, it's not €4.5B being spent on bikes.

Biggins

Stekelly wrote: »

The problem is, it's not €4.5B being spent on bikes.

Thats right. Its been spent on TV air time, printing publications about plans and ideas that are AT LEAST one to two years old (for it took time to come up with this plan, correlate it and combine it into the final document).

Your right, it not bikes, it's NOTHING that anyone in this country can own, use or sell.
Its wasted money now in the current economic times on a useless PR stunt that for the time being - till we are more financial stable again - should be AT LEAST postponed!

Now that would make better sense right now or am I just completely stupid?

Just as an after thought: what would happen IF even 10% of us decided to answer the "call to bikes" in todays financial crises?
Remember, less petrol sales tax revenue, less car maintenance/garage use, less products being bought possibly because you can only carry so much on a bike! And they are just the simple things that come to mind right now!

The gov' wants us to spend somewhere - yea, they sure are going about the right way for us to do that!

Its an idea of 4.5 BILLION that is so fcuked up right now - its unreal!

mike65

Who needs factz!?

Guy:Incognito

Biggins wrote: »

Its wasted money now in the current economic times on a useless PR stunt that for the time being - till we are more financial stable again - should be AT LEAST postponed!

The plan is not for the recession to last for the next 11 years.

You cant just stop doing everythign durign the recession. You need to spend money and keep as many people employed as possible. You dont just throw a blanket over the country and assign someone to pull it off at the other end of the recession then resume moaning about not having any infrastructure and the country beign ****e while tryign to pay catch up.

Biggins

Stekelly wrote: »

The plan is not for the recession to last for the next 11 years.

You cant just stop doing everythign durign the recession. You need to spend money and keep as many people employed as possible. You dont just throw a blanket over the country and assign someone to pull it off at the other end of the recession then resume moaning about not having any infrastructure and the country beign ****e while tryign to pay catch up.

Please stop. The only people that are being employed for this now are the well paid PR people.

As for knowing when the recession is going to end, are you that good at guessing when it WILL end?
If your that good, please explain to the rest of us and the government how you came to your accurate assessment.
Let the government spend then the 4.5 billion on the infrastructure then - NOT A 4.5 BILLION PR CAMPAIGN!!! :mad:

For fcuks sake! RIGHT NOW - that spending is stupid, stupid, stupid!

ejmaztec

I think that the entire working population of the country should be involved in this project. All of the hills should be bull-dozed into the sea so that even the most unfit lazy bastard won't be out of breath riding his bike to the pub.

There may also be enough debris to build a direct link to France, so that we could have endless convoys of bikes bringing in cheap booze, fags and hookers.

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

I think that the entire working population of the country should be involved in this project. All of the hills should be bull-dozed into the sea so that even the most unfit lazy bastard won't be out of breath riding his bike to the pub.

There may also be enough debris to build a direct link to France, so that we could have endless convoys of bikes bringing in cheap booze, fags and hookers.

We're all for the cheap booze and fags but flattening the land?
Seeing as the global tides are rising, thats maybe not a good idea in the long run.
A few decades and we might need those higher up spots to take refuge to when the floods do come!
Any lowland countries will be screwed first!

yoshytoshy

ejmaztec wrote: »

I think that the entire working population of the country should be involved in this project. All of the hills should be bull-dozed into the sea so that even the most unfit lazy bastard won't be out of breath riding his bike to the pub.

There may also be enough debris to build a direct link to France, so that we could have endless convoys of bikes bringing in cheap booze, fags and hookers.

I've a few bikes that don't get much use anymore ,but for my own health I'll be out on them when the weather improves. I don't need a donation ,so I can look after myself.

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

We're all for the cheap booze and fags but flattening the land?
Seeing as the global tides are rising, thats maybe not a good idea in the long run.
A few decades and we might need those higher up spots to take refuge to when the floods do come!
Any lowland countries will be screwed first!

Dykes - and not the ones in the Dungarees.

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

Dykes - and not the ones in the Dungarees.

Aye, they have worked well in Kathrina, London and elsewhere so far and this is before things are seriously worse.

..but this is another issue for another thread in the "Green Issues" or an environment section!

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

Aye, they have worked well in Kathrina, London and elsewhere so far and this is before things are seriously worse.

..but this is another issue for another thread in the "Green Issues" or an environment section!

I would have posted my suggestion in one of those places, but they don't allow people to post on green issues unless they wear free range woolly underpants.

The guy

Overheal wrote: »

Bloomin? Madness? This is SPARTAAAA!!







Actually I wish it were Sparta, they'd just cut off the heads of the Bank CEOs and call it a day.

This is an Internet forum.


This is Sparta

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

I would have posted my suggestion in one of those places, but they don't allow people to post on green issues unless they wear free range woolly underpants.

LOL Fair enough! :pac: Welcome.

Latchy

What is the old saying ? ah yes ,it goes

'' if the Dutch took over Ireland every inch of space would have a house on it ,if the Irish took over Hollond they would drown '' .

The Dutch have being using Bicycles for decades now ,perhaps the Irish could follow suit ?

Biggins

latchyco wrote: »

What is the old saying ? ah yes ,it goes

'' if the Dutch took over Ireland every inch of space would have a house on it, if the Irish took over Holland they would drown '' .
The Dutch have being using Bicycles for decades now, perhaps the Irish could follow suit?

I'd like to think so but will drink drivers put down their glasses to hold onto the handlebars with both hands!

galwayrush

latchyco wrote: »

What is the old saying ? ah yes ,it goes

'' if the Dutch took over Ireland every inch of space would have a house on it ,if the Irish took over Hollond they would drown '' .

The Dutch have being using Bicycles for decades now ,perhaps the Irish could follow suit ?

I think it was ' if the Dutch had ireland, they would feed all of Europe, if the Irish had The netherlands, it would be underwater'

Latchy

Biggins wrote: »

I'd like to think so but will drink drivers put down their glasses to hold onto the handlebars with both hands!

Yes, that is the question, and it will be asked in the house !

galwayrush wrote: »

I think it was ' if the Dutch had ireland, they would feed all of Europe, if the Irish had The netherlands, it would be underwater'

A variation on a theme

galwayrush

latchyco wrote: »

The Dutch have being using Bicycles for decades now ,perhaps the Irish could follow suit ?

They also have an excelent train service, and superb motorways.:cool:

Latchy

galwayrush wrote: »

They also have an excelent train service, and superb motorways.:cool:

They do , I was over there for a week last june .

Christ ,the train even pulls into Schipol airport ,up the escalator and into departures in about 15 ,20 minutes from city centre .

Biggins

galwayrush wrote: »

They also have an excellent train service, and superb motorways.:cool:

You mean the government there spent money on them instead of cancelling their services!
How naughty of them to do anything so daft! :rolleyes:

galwayrush

latchyco wrote: »

They do , I was over there for a week last june .

Christ ,the train even pulls into Schipol airport ,up the escalator and into departures in about 15 ,20 minutes from city centre .

Impressive. I managed to get a train to Rotterdam from Schipol at 4 am.
Got an apology from an airport worker because the nationwide circular train line only ran once an hour between 3 and 5 am.

galwayrush

Biggins wrote: »

You mean the government there spent money on them instead of cancelling their services!
How naughty of them to do anything so daft! :rolleyes:

As for the speed of the trains, shocking. You can hardly get to enjoy the views with the speed, they are also way to clean, just couldn't handle that, and another thing, they didn't break down so i didn't get to be ferried by bus for even part of the journey. They could learn a lot from us.:D

Run_to_da_hills

galwayrush wrote: »

They also have an excelent train service, and superb motorways.:cool:

And "coffee shops"

Biggins

galwayrush wrote: »

As for the speed of the trains, shocking. You can hardly get to enjoy the views with the speed, they are also way to clean, just couldn't handle that, and another thing, they didn't break down so i didn't get to be ferried by bus for even part of the journey. They could learn a lot from us.:D

Ya mean there's no rockfalls (two days ago - Bray line) either to stop trains! lol
How could that country be so wise!

Biggins

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And "coffee shops"

Not for much longer - they are changing the laws I read and heard.