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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE

  • 07-02-2009 4:48pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12


    Has anyone ever had any experience of a loved one lost being present?
    Any signs or anything?
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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Snyper comes a lurking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Well Mary, the way I see it is consciousness, awareness and all that are caused by chemical and electrical reactions in the brain. Now when you die, those reactions stop and so you can't be aware of anything. Kinda like a long, dreamless sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    There's a paranormal forum for people to discuss ectoplasm and dirt on camera lenses here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=446

    You might get better answers there. I'll leave this open for the AH circus though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    No you nutcase


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Your body will decompose and be eaten by maggots.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    Has anyone ever had any experience of a loved one lost being present?
    Any signs or anything?
    You go to Allah and claim 72 virgins, provided you met the requirements upon exiting the universe.

    Everyone else goes to hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Any signs or anything?

    Rigor mortis is usually a dead give away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    phasers wrote: »
    No you nutcase

    Watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    This is an old Fenian saying ''Your born,you die,your eatin' by the worm,then nothin''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Feelgood


    Just like in the movie Alive, all your friends and loved ones come around and eat you..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    When I died I came back as me. Chuffed I was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    What happens when we die? You turn into the above ^^ Or Allah juice....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Kiera wrote: »
    What happens when we die? You turn into the above ^^ Or Allah juice....

    Everyone comes back as me? I feel less special now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Everyone comes back as me? I feel less special now.
    You still are "special" ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭SAVE_ME.222


    Flying Spaghetti Monster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    When we die, the Lord our God let's us into his gaff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    You go off to live on the moon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    Kiera wrote: »
    What happens when we die? You turn into the above ^^ Or Allah juice....
    If that was for me well then Bless You my child.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    everything smells of bread apparently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭SRFC90


    themadchef wrote: »
    Rigor mortis is usually a dead give away.

    Oh no....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    when you die your sent to work as a garda.... Hell


    or


    you become pamala andersons bra Heaven

    or you just becume a love stain in dave jones's pants


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    When you die, yourself, god, budda, allah and krishna have a big orgy in the sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    You become a necrophiliac's dream if you're good looking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE

    I think that we go into physical death, but our soul remains in a coma. Then at some point in the future, the God who created the universe returns us to life in a physical resurrection. In a judgement event, those who believed in Jesus Christ in this life join him for eternal life and joy in divine communion with everything. Those who rejected Jesus meet their end in a destructive fire that terminally consumes both body and soul. Death for them is eternal. There's no hell, there's nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Húrin wrote: »
    I think that we go into physical death, but our soul remains in a coma. Then at some point in the future, the God who created the universe returns us to life in a physical resurrection. In a judgement event, those who believed in Jesus Christ in this life join him for eternal life and joy in divine communion with everything. Those who rejected Jesus meet their end in a destructive fire that terminally consumes both body and soul. Death for them is eternal.

    Nah... doubtful. yer probably wrong there, bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    What happens when we die?

    1. Heart stops beating and/or lungs stop breathing.
    2. Body cells no longer receive supplies of blood and oxygen.
    • Blood drains from capillaries in the upper surfaces and collects in the blood vessels in the lower surfaces.
    • Upper surfaces of the body become pale and the lower surfaces become dark.
    3. Cells cease aerobic respiration, and are unable to generate the energy molecules needed to maintain normal muscle biochemistry.
    • Calcium ions leak into muscle cells preventing muscle relaxation.
    • Muscles stiffen and remain stiff (rigor mortis) until they begin to decompose.
    4. Cells eventually die and the body loses its capacity to fight off bacteria.
    5. The cells' own enzymes and bacterial activity cause the body to decompose - muscles lose their stiffness.

    • Brain cells can die if deprived of oxygen for more than three minutes. Muscle cells live on for several hours. Bone and skin cells can stay alive for several days.
    • It takes around 12 hours for a human body to be cool to the touch and 24 hours to cool to the core.
    • Rigor mortis commences after three hours and lasts until 36 hours after death.
    • Forensic scientists use clues such as these for estimating the time of death.
    More here if you're still curious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Generally you go all bloated and maggots burst out of your belly and eat whats left.

    Its kind of like the reverse of birth.


    Like sands in the hourglass so are the days of our lives


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    Grimes wrote: »
    Generally you go all bloated and maggots burst out of your belly and eat whats left.

    Its kind of like the reverse of birth.


    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭SAVE_ME.222


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?

    They crawl in through your crevices and eat you from the inside out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?

    You ever leave a curry out for 5 days ?

    In essence you become stale food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?

    Blowflies. Lay the eggs anywhere from 4 to 72 hours after death. Ish :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Húrin wrote: »
    Those who rejected Jesus meet their end in a destructive fire that terminally consumes both body and soul. Death for them is eternal.

    I reject jesus. Am i going to hell, is Elvis there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,572 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE
    God will tell you that typing whole sentences in caps is really annoying and that a disgruntled forum member* or email recipient probably did you in.

    * Not me. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Mena wrote: »
    Blowflies. Lay the eggs anywhere from 4 to 72 hours after death. Ish :p

    Even in a hospital to funeral home to grave situation? Would they get a chance?

    I always thought the worms would have me, im not that keen on maggots. I like worms though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    Ass wrote: »
    You go to Allah and claim 72 virgins.

    I think thats only if you die fighting the filthy infidels, 72 virgins.........jasus i'd be tempted to kill a few infidels myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Why worry about it. Either there's an afterlife, or not. Either way, it's kinda out of our control, and the grim reaper will pay a visit someday. Feck the worry, it's only a waste of the imagination anyways. Just enjoy yourself while you can.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    Nah... doubtful. yer probably wrong there, bill.
    A devastating intellectual put-down.
    Caoimhín wrote: »
    I reject jesus. Am i going to hell, is Elvis there?
    I quite explicitly rejected the hell of eternal punishment. I don't know where Elvis is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?

    God puts them there if He catches you touching yourself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The gov gets their death tax!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    The Worms Crawl In

    Did you ever think, as a hearse goes by,
    That you might be the next to die?
    They wrap you up in a big white sheet,
    And bury you down about six feet deep

    They put you in a big black box,
    And cover you up with dirt and rocks,
    And all goes well, for about a week,
    And then the coffin begins to leak!

    The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
    The worms play pinochle on your snout.
    They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
    They eat the jelly between your toes

    A great big worm with rolling eyes,
    Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes,
    Your stomach turns a slimy green,
    And pus pours out like whipping cream.

    You spread it on a slice of bread,
    And that's what worms eat when you're dead.

    http://www.goblinville.com/pages/writings/lyrics/worms-crawl.htm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    That one always mystified me. How did the maggots get there? Are they in the person's belly when they're alive?

    Does your mother not feed you on a healthy diet of maggots? Some people are weird :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 tantalum


    Enzymes begin eating through cell walls causing the liquid inside to leak out. The eyes are usually the first to go. This liquid gets between the layers of skin and loosens them. The skin of the hands becomes almost like a glove and sheets of skin can begin to slough off.

    If flies get access to the cadaver, they lay their eggs on points of entry e.g. mouth, genitalia, open wounds, etc. Maggots work their way under the skin and eat away at the subcutaneous fat, which they love. They can sound like rice crispies working away after they develop into proper eating machines.

    The liquid leaking from cells destroyed by the enzymes eventually makes contact with the armies of bacteria in the body. The bacteria were there when the body was alive but without a working immune system, they now have a sea of food to feast on. The population explodes and they sail on the sea of cell goo to just about all parts of the body.

    As the bacteria feed, they produce gas. This gas causes bloating. When the body is alive, it gets rid of this gas by letting rip. But with a cadavar, this gas build up until the body itself rips. Bloat is not limited to the abdomen; lips, and in a man, the penis and testicles can be affected. Testicles can reach the size of a sliotar.

    Bloat is fairly shortlived; a week/10 days. With all the gas building up, something eventually has to give. The intestines can rupture or the torso itself can rip. Putrefaction begins after about 2 days and this can last a long time. The length of time it takes for a body to decay depends on a multitude of factors; environmental, location, initial condition of the body, hungry animals, etc.

    The body basically dissolves, liquid leaches out and into the ground/carpet. The lungs and digestive organs are the first to go. Bacteria munch through the palate into the skull and enter the all you can eat brain buffet. The brain liquefies quickly and pours out the ears and can bubble out the mouth.

    Three weeks on, and depending on the weather, and whether animals have got to it or not, you're left with skin, bones, dried out muscle, sinews, tendons; basically a mummified cadavar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Biggins wrote: »
    The gov gets their death tax!
    Bastards, even after death, we finance their gravy train .:(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is what happens when you die.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=munging


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Bastards, even after death, we finance their gravy train .:(

    Yep. Its called "death duties" to use the proper nice term they put on it. Fcukers! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Húrin wrote: »
    A devastating intellectual put-down.

    Sure when it comes to things about imaginary zombie gods you don't need to think much imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    When we die, the Lord our God let's us into his gaff

    Who is this "Our" God??? I have no God, so I hope I was not included in that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    I hope they serve beer in hell...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Who knows. I'm on the side of there's no point worrying about it. If consciousness survives the death of the body well then you'll know about it, if it doesn't there isn't a you anymore to know anything. In a universe that could be reduced down to quantum information, it's possible that somthing of the you that was continues as something. It could be diffuse it could be focused. Given we know little if anything about the nature of consciousness itself and are as far away from an answer as we were a hundred years ago, anything is possible, however unlikely.

    Before anyone says we know loads about the nature of the brain, yes we do. We know a lot about where many things are located, but where the observer, the us, that sees, understands and reacts to those things we know bugger all. For all we know the structure of the brain could grow in complexity to the point where emergent behaviour happens beyond the obvious physical. It could act as a quantum information focus. When that structure no longer exists does that information disappear? Dunno. Likely but since there's no evidence, beyond an obvious lack of consciousness, who knows.

    I look on this subject the way I would look on evidence of alien life. Yes it stands to reason there is life out there, but we have no evidence that says we're not the only ones in this entire universe. Zip. Nada. Conjecture just about covers it.

    So keep believing that your loved ones are around in some way if it makes you happy and content and a useful person and if you believe the complete opposite and it does the same, well good luck to both viewpoints. I have much the same position on god.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    tantalum wrote: »
    Enzymes begin eating through cell walls causing the liquid inside to leak out. The eyes are usually the first to go. This liquid gets between the layers of skin and loosens them. The skin of the hands becomes almost like a glove and sheets of skin can begin to slough off.

    If flies get access to the cadaver, they lay their eggs on points of entry e.g. mouth, genitalia, open wounds, etc. Maggots work their way under the skin and eat away at the subcutaneous fat, which they love. They can sound like rice crispies working away after they develop into proper eating machines.

    The liquid leaking from cells destroyed by the enzymes eventually makes contact with the armies of bacteria in the body. The bacteria were there when the body was alive but without a working immune system, they now have a sea of food to feast on. The population explodes and they sail on the sea of cell goo to just about all parts of the body.

    As the bacteria feed, they produce gas. This gas causes bloating. When the body is alive, it gets rid of this gas by letting rip. But with a cadavar, this gas build up until the body itself rips. Bloat is not limited to the abdomen; lips, and in a man, the penis and testicles can be affected. Testicles can reach the size of a sliotar.

    Bloat is fairly shortlived; a week/10 days. With all the gas building up, something eventually has to give. The intestines can rupture or the torso itself can rip. Putrefaction begins after about 2 days and this can last a long time. The length of time it takes for a body to decay depends on a multitude of factors; environmental, location, initial condition of the body, hungry animals, etc.

    The body basically dissolves, liquid leaches out and into the ground/carpet. The lungs and digestive organs are the first to go. Bacteria munch through the palate into the skull and enter the all you can eat brain buffet. The brain liquefies quickly and pours out the ears and can bubble out the mouth.

    Three weeks on, and depending on the weather, and whether animals have got to it or not, you're left with skin, bones, dried out muscle, sinews, tendons; basically a mummified cadavar.

    I'm fifty fifty between mortician and serial killer?

    EDIT: 500 posts and a third star, oh yeah.


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