[Eve] Band of Brothers (BOB) = Gone!

Harekin

http://swornabsent.com/eve/lolbob.mp3

No offense if any of you guys are (were I suppose) in BOB but they got wtfpwn'd.

D

Ok aside from all the political bullcrap. Certain things about people logging in with other peoples logins would result in bans and reimbursements and that mp3 mentions that the speaker asked for his login and password and was given it to check it out.

They just shot themselves in the foot. Reimbursement petitions will actually be considered.

R0ot

I didn't actually hear anything mentioned about a log in to another account, I did hear high sec api though so we'll see.

D

Really I heard about forum account and game account.

Damn I need to log in and see how long Hargoth (sp?) has been in bob. Anyone know?

Edit: Apparently a new alliance TAFKAB is up and running. Also people are saying that the corps had sovereignty of some towers so everything isn't lost. The next 6 weeks will be fun though.

Glippo

Whoever did this should be ****ing castrated......This is too far, even for Goons....

I am in Bob BTW OP

Ass

Glippo wrote: »

Whoever did this should be ****ing castrated......This is too far, even for Goons....

I am in Bob BTW OP

Yo you just lost at eve.

kaahooters

i dont like the way goons did it, couldnt beat bob so they just spyzored there way to takin teh name, and the recording just seems a lil scripted to me.

meh, just reaks of the kid in school that stole the footbal in teh middle of a kickabout and wouldnt give it back.

jaysonia

sounds all pretty bent to me. worst way for one of the oldest alliances in EvE to go.

tba

\0/

so it has come to pass... any alliance cannot last forever, Goons will have the same problem in the end.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/02/05/internet-spaceships-super-drama/

R0ot

Going to say this once and one time only, keep this thread civil. You want to be a smacktard go to CAOD that's what its for.

D wrote: »

Edit: Apparently a new alliance TAFKAB is up and running. Also people are saying that the corps had sovereignty of some towers so everything isn't lost. The next 6 weeks will be fun though.

Only alliances can claim sovereignty, and I have been flying around Delve this morning, there is no band of brothers sovereignty left.

D

Santa Anna wrote:

At the very least Haargoth is in for an awkward reunion at the next TAFKAB BBQ.

Read this and lol'd

R0ot

Dian [RKK] on new eden radio for an interview says "we didn't want that alliance name anyway" :pac:

jaysonia

R0ot wrote: »

Dian [RKK] on new eden radio for an interview says "we didn't want that alliance name anyway" :pac:

that was also in the replies to the forum posts. i like the way the bob dir's just fob it off like nothing's wrong. :rolleyes:

Maddzy

Holy **** what happened? I just randomly looked at the influence map (http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png) today because someone mentioned something about new 0.0 space that doesn't have sov, which is completely unrelated to this, and I see BoB are gone. I've not been on Eve in over a month so have no idea what the situation is :P

This is pretty awesome though, I must listen to that mp3 when I get a chance. I always knew BoB would see their day but I would have rathered see them destroyed in battle then by spies. But the entire community tried beating them in battle, so this was the only thing left!

"Epic" is only a four letter word...

Tripp

Hargoth(sp) gave his forum account login, Not ingame afaik

GO_Bear

Just Lol is all i can say , Nothing like some **** stirring to remind you what eve is all about , ****ing people over

In this case , a whole alliance got screwed

jaysonia

Not the first time a whole allianz has gotten screwed though. it's only a matter of time till it happens again to some other major power block. These scams always happen.

R0ot

jaysonia wrote: »

Not the first time a whole allianz has gotten screwed though. it's only a matter of time till it happens again to some other major power block. These scams always happen.

I predict incoming corp/alliance security changes coming for the next patch in march.

jaysonia

I'm going to steal r0ots pants. then i'll get make the news headlines!!

Ry

It's a really crap way to play the game to be honest. I don't like what's happened but I do look forward to seeing how the BoB lads deal with it though. The sudden influx of people grabbing space is insane in Delve. I think this is kind of what they needed to test themselves though I still hate how it has turned out. Awful state of affairs tbh.

R0ot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejtoblLRogI

:pac:

bizmark

Not a great way for such an old powerful alliance to end but thats eve

jaysonia

I agree with what bizmark has to say

mamolian

**** bob tbh.. Good riddance to em.. Some of the oldest cheaters/exploiters in the game.. This death is LONG over due.. If they decided to reform.. More power to them.. But I'm glad that alliance is dead..

R0ot

Courtesy of a goonie:

From their own forums.

For those of you unaware, BoB has claimed now for years that Delve was the way that it is before they moved in. Broken truesec, more highend moons than the rest of the game combined, all of this was mere coincidence. Not so much.

And what about "didn't want that alliance name anyway"? Turns out they had CCP reserve the Band of Brothers name just for them.

Enjoy.

http://www.bandofbrothers.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1421

Apparently BoB had a little more sway with CCP than we originally thought.




Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
Bubbles
oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

Regards,

Dianabolic




Omir,

We would like you to use your influence within CONCORD to have the corporations "Band of Brothers" and "B.O.B Corp" struck from their register [ooc we believe that both corps are inactive and due for deletion anyway] so that we may register our official Alliance: Band of Brothers [BoB] (please see petition No050703-000172 for details).

In order to facilitate our future plans, we would like 1 Gallente Freighter.

In order to help your followers recoup from their campaign in Bleak Lands we would also like 3 bhaalgorn bpc's.

Expediency is of the essence, we look forward to hearing from you.




Hi Kieron,

Welcome back (I assume u, along with most of the staff, have been on a much deserved break).

Below is a copy of the mail I sent to Omir, if you need anything else, just holler

Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
Bubbles
oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

Regards,

Dianabolic

p.s. Kieron, we never sent the 10th name in.

p.p.s the sovereignty issue is ongoing, we've had numerous petitions closed (the gm's believe it is the same bug as the rest of the game is suffering, whilst it quite obviously (to us and others, anyway, not) - could you suggest to me how we could elevate this matter beyond the gm's we're having to deal with, or is there not a procedure in place for that?



In response to:

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Original Message

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From: Kieron [mailto:kieron@ccpgames.com]
Sent: 09 August 2005 17:50
To: Tristan
Subject: RE: Conversation and agreement with Omir Sarakusa, Blood
Raiders move to Delve.


Send me a list of the characters that were supposed to get the standing
change and I'll get it fixed.

kieron

I know the standings thing was all roleplay stuff but has any other alliance received anything else like that ever? [/tinfoil]

I don't really see anything wrong with them trying to reserve the alliance name though personally. (back then anyway) :pac:

Sand

EVE was a different game back then - Devs had a much closer relationship with the players with all the pros and cons involved. That BoB profited from those relationships whereas their enemies did not is problematic - Goon achievements are all the more remarkable for being relatively unassisted by any sort of Dev boon, RP or otherwise.

Anyhow - BoB would have done this in a heartbeat to any enemy alliance had they thought of it and had the opportunity. They lived by the metagaming sword and they died by it.

The greatest tragedy is for the BoB pets - the contempt with which BoB viewed them is now public and undeniable and yet they still cringe and worship at the altar, confirming the contempt.

Almost definitly though this highlights the total mess that is corp and alliance mechanics. That one player, no matter how trusted, can completely wipe out the work of thousands of players over 5 years is laughable. Shutting down an alliance should take days, not minutes and should be blockable at any point.

Of course, its totally insane that one player, no matter how skilled, can wipe out an entire grid with one press of a button, but Titans and DDs werent a problem for BoB when they had the monopoly on them so **** them too.

mamolian

Stockholm syndrome tbh.

Sand

I like the idea that the evil empire was conquered by love - theres film rights in there somewhere...

Zillah

Glippo wrote: »

Whoever did this should be ****ing castrated......This is too far, even for Goons....

I am in Bob BTW OP

Heh...hehe...

Ry

Speaking from my own perspective and from the alliance I am in being EXE. A so called "Pet" of BoB's;

I joined up with one of the "Pets" because I wanted to try the fleet battling stuff out again since I've been pirating for the last 3 years and because I really think the goons are just arseholes in game and have no decent sense of mutual enjoyment of the game through respectfully fighting opponents and having a laugh together in that goal.
I think people look too much into BoB "Pets" caring about being "Pets" at all. It's like any other group of allied alliances. We live in space down south with our own and help our ally defend the space that we also share. People love to paint an "OH YOU GUYS JUST LICK THE ARSE OF BOB" picture when really we're all quite independant and just fly with bob when necessary or for laughs as we like so many allied alliances in the game can mutually appreciate flying and fighting together for the enjoyment of the game. Wheather it's BoB or Pandemic or whoever (bar goons) who owns the space next to us we're just looking to enjoy it with them and defend it with them also.

BoB's own players opinions of us are of no consequence to me either because in every alliance each player will have different opinions and I couldn't care less. So some of bob think we're ****. I don't care because I'm sure that some in our alliance don't think much of BoB either. Seeing passed this is called maturity amongst players and is the opposite of what Goons display at regular intervals on a daily basis.

Just my two cents.

Ry

Ass

Ry wrote: »

Speaking from my own perspective and from the alliance I am in being EXE. A so called "Pet" of BoB's;

I joined up with one of the "Pets" because I wanted to try the fleet battling stuff out again since I've been pirating for the last 3 years and because I really think the goons are just arseholes in game and have no decent sense of mutual enjoyment of the game through respectfully fighting opponents and having a laugh together in that goal.
I think people look too much into BoB "Pets" caring about being "Pets" at all. It's like any other group of allied alliances. We live in space down south with our own and help our ally defend the space that we also share. People love to paint an "OH YOU GUYS JUST LICK THE ARSE OF BOB" picture when really we're all quite independant and just fly with bob when necessary or for laughs as we like so many allied alliances in the game can mutually appreciate flying and fighting together for the enjoyment of the game. Wheather it's BoB or Pandemic or whoever (bar goons) who owns the space next to us we're just looking to enjoy it with them and defend it with them also.

BoB's own players opinions of us are of no consequence to me either because in every alliance each player will have different opinions and I couldn't care less. So some of bob think we're ****. I don't care because I'm sure that some in our alliance don't think much of BoB either. Seeing passed this is called maturity amongst players and is the opposite of what Goons display at regular intervals on a daily basis.

Just my two cents.

Ry

GOON HAS NO HONOR

I like how it is bob who looks down upon you, as if you're lesser people in real life because you don't meet their expectations, and we're the arseholes.

We just fly internet spaceships with out caring what people think of us in our internet spaceship game.

Glippo

Ry wrote: »

Speaking from my own perspective and from the alliance I am in being EXE. A so called "Pet" of BoB's;

I joined up with one of the "Pets" because I wanted to try the fleet battling stuff out again since I've been pirating for the last 3 years and because I really think the goons are just arseholes in game and have no decent sense of mutual enjoyment of the game through respectfully fighting opponents and having a laugh together in that goal.
I think people look too much into BoB "Pets" caring about being "Pets" at all. It's like any other group of allied alliances. We live in space down south with our own and help our ally defend the space that we also share. People love to paint an "OH YOU GUYS JUST LICK THE ARSE OF BOB" picture when really we're all quite independant and just fly with bob when necessary or for laughs as we like so many allied alliances in the game can mutually appreciate flying and fighting together for the enjoyment of the game. Wheather it's BoB or Pandemic or whoever (bar goons) who owns the space next to us we're just looking to enjoy it with them and defend it with them also.

BoB's own players opinions of us are of no consequence to me either because in every alliance each player will have different opinions and I couldn't care less. So some of bob think we're ****. I don't care because I'm sure that some in our alliance don't think much of BoB either. Seeing passed this is called maturity amongst players and is the opposite of what Goons display at regular intervals on a daily basis.

Just my two cents.

Ry

I like EXE

Ry

Ass wrote: »

GOON HAS NO HONOR

I like how it is bob who looks down upon you, as if you're lesser people in real life because you don't meet their expectations, and we're the arseholes.

We just fly internet spaceships with out caring what people think of us in our internet spaceship game.

Well I was only speaking from first hand experience. Before fighting goons I'd never in all the years I've been playing the game come across anyone who acts the way they do in local and outside and I've seen a lot of bad local stuff being a pirate. But goons top it all.

On the other thing Root posted from decades ago in the bob forums. I think it's been said but that was years back when things like that happened all the time and were the norm so again I think it was completely ignorant for them to drag that up and try to spin it like BoB were up to evil tricks but then ignorance is about as common as Achura Caldari amongst goons it seems these days.

Ry

R0ot

Ry wrote: »

On the other thing Root posted from decades ago in the bob forums. I think it's been said but that was years back when things like that happened all the time and were the norm...

Ah yeah but as I asked, have any other alliances received anything like that at all? And especially after the **** years ago with Aurora division of ISD i'm surprised any of those standings on anyone that got them stayed.

D

Speaking about the whole RP aspect of the game I remember when Cyvok got pissed off with the whole thing.

Bob got standing increases.

LV got a free Wyvern for hauling some minerals for 10 minutes(although many suggested that a ISD member who was part of LV gave the alliance the heads up and they had the minerals ready.)

ASCN followed an RP arc for 8 months and we got...

a 2 run Mach BPC

Cyvok then said "**** it set all angels to -10 and don't bother helping ISD"

Drakar

Simple-ish overview
http://megawarp.net/main/eve-onlines-flawed-corporation-system-and-bob.html

R0ot

Drakar wrote: »

Simple-ish overview
http://megawarp.net/main/eve-onlines-flawed-corporation-system-and-bob.html

I think that is actually to most biased towards bob report on the whole thing i've seen yet. I'm actually in stitches laughing. It actually sounds as if it was written by a WoW player.

mamolian

"the BoB alliance didn’t want to be called BoB in the first place. "

:rolleyes:

R0ot

mamolian wrote: »

"the BoB alliance didn’t want to be called BoB in the first place. "

:rolleyes:

Got one better

"The traitor used to have full director-status in the executive corporation Tinfoil of BoB. He obviously wielded much power in the alliance. At some point in time, he went on an undercover mission by using an alt character to infiltrate rival Goonswarm.

The BoB director was an unhappy person and proved to be easily influenced by GoonSwarm’s persuasions. To show his loyalty to GoonSwarm, the director gave access to BoB’s private forum. It exposed a lot of sensitive information that could be used against BoB. He even made a complete back-up of the forum’s archive."

Glippo

mamolian wrote: »

"the BoB alliance didn’t want to be called BoB in the first place. "

:rolleyes:

This be True

Maddzy

mamolian wrote:

"the BoB alliance didn’t want to be called BoB in the first place. "

Glippo wrote: »

This be True

BOB wrote:

Omir,

We would like you to use your influence within CONCORD to have the corporations "Band of Brothers" and "B.O.B Corp" struck from their register [ooc we believe that both corps are inactive and due for deletion anyway] so that we may register our official Alliance: Band of Brothers [BoB] (please see petition No050703-000172 for details).

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE (nor do I care I'm just posting this to troll Glippo)

bizmark

All bow before your gaunty overlord king of morsus mihi

Glippo

Maddzy wrote: »

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE (nor do I care I'm just posting this to troll Glippo)

Fail troll is fail

Statso

bizmark wrote: »

All bow before your gaunty overlord king of morsus mihi

This also be true.

mamolian

Who gives a flying **** if they wanted to be called CCCP.. Its the fact that he says it.. after his precious alliance crumbles into nothing that puts a smile on my face tbh..

Arrogant dickheads. They deserved what they got.

WAS THIS PLANNED AT THE 2006 BBQ? WAT WAT?

Glippo

mamolian wrote: »

Who gives a flying **** if they wanted to be called CCCP.. Its the fact that he says it.. after his precious alliance crumbles into nothing that puts a smile on my face tbh..

Arrogant dickheads. They deserved what they got.

WAS THIS PLANNED AT THE 2006 BBQ? WAT WAT?

Wow mamo calm yourself.....i think it would appear that you care.
And i don't think one person going emo and pressing a button and having the name disappear...is the same as an alliance crumbling into nothing.

Ivan

As a past player of EvE and one who still keeps up with the politics somewhat, I find this all hilarious. My understanding is that the access to the forums was just to prove that the spy had director access and if there was access to the EvE account given (which I'm not really sure there was given the mp3 linked) then it was just to that end as well. The actual damage was done by the BoB member and thus seems like a legitimate tactic.

A really funny and truly remarkable tactic. And I also would assume that CCP will introduce a patch in the coming months to reduce the effectiveness of said tactic but it doesnt change the fact that this is one of the most "lulz" moments to come out of EvE in a long time

Just my 2 cents.

R0ot

Ivan wrote: »

As a past player of EvE and one who still keeps up with the politics somewhat, I find this all hilarious. My understanding is that the access to the forums was just to prove that the spy had director access and if there was access to the EvE account given (which I'm not really sure there was given the mp3 linked) then it was just to that end as well. The actual damage was done by the BoB member and thus seems like a legitimate tactic.

A really funny and truly remarkable tactic. And I also would assume that CCP will introduce a patch in the coming months to reduce the effectiveness of said tactic but it doesnt change the fact that this is one of the most "lulz" moments to come out of EvE in a long time

Just my 2 cents.

Your perfectly right Ivan its all loltastic, now what's your email so I can inundate you with 21 Day Free Trials.

Ivan

I get enough of them from CCP for my 3 inactive accounts, thank you very much

Tyrant^

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7905924.stm
This might interest you eve fan boiiiii's !

jaysonia

wow, Making news head lines on bbc