Chuggers new tactics?

projectmayhem

I was in the city centre yesterday and walking through Temple Bar there were a group of chuggers (charity muggers, for the uninformed), as per usual.

Except now simply walking by and not making eye contact doesn't work, because they've taken on the idea of shouting over at you, forcing you to look!

Looking down and playing with my phone, or even making calls to voicemail to make it seem like I'm having a conversation just doesn't seem to give them the message that maybe I don't want to be bothered... but now, they're going to shout at me too?

Are people handing over bank details hand over fist when they shout? There must be some level of success if they've adopted this new technique...

Dragan

Out of interest, how would you like to see people collecting for charity act?

schween

They are quite bothersome.
They always got my housemates details because she thought they were cute... then she'd curse them when the direct debits bounced and she got fined by the bank. Quite funny.

Robbo

Dragan wrote: »

Out of interest, how would you like to see people collecting for charity act?

With dignity and manners?

projectmayhem

Dragan wrote: »

Out of interest, how would you like to see people collecting for charity act?

Finding people walking on their own down the streets and shouting at them isn't the way to get me to give to charity. If they want to do collections on the street then by all means approach me in a polite manner, considerate of what I may want (if I'm avoiding eye contact then I don't want to be approached).

When did charitable organisations go to the school of selling by Harvey Norman?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

We can turn this into a game a la Mr Shakee Hand Man...

Grab hold, shake hand, ask questions. What's his name / where's he from / how long has he been a chugger, but NEVER let go of his hand.

youcrazyjesus!

Scum. I'd threaten them with the Gardai. They should be taught
how to behave in a civilised manner, I am reasonably generous
with charity I resent being approached by them and being spoken
to in a smart alec manner. I do make a note of which charity is
Involved and vow never to give to them.

Gone Drinking

I'd give alot more to charity if the hot female chuggers gave blowjobs in exchange.

Then we could call them Charity Suckers or Chuckers

blue4ever

Make my blood boil:

I have a policy - I will not give one cent/dime/dinar to a charity that uses them. If Bernardos etc are doing an appeal outside chugging - I wont put my hand in my pocket - regardless.

FlutterinBantam

Barnardos??

Their top man has full access to RTE most week nights to peddle his views.

That's the way it seems to me anyway.;)

00112984

I got given out to by a chugger a few months ago.

He bounced up to me on O'Connell St, dodgy hair flying and tried to hug me. I am NOT a hugger. I stepped back, gave him a look and said "do NOT do that" and kept walking. He followed me and started trying his usual chugger banter "Oi hai... Oim loike soooooooo glad I sawh you..." so I just turned and told him to f*ck off. He pretended to look all hurt and said I wasn't a very nice person. I agreed and kept walking. At this stage, he was getting pissed off; more at the idea of being ignored than anything and starts sreaming down the street at me "so you want little black children to die of AIDS?! Murderer!!"

Interesting tactic but he worked for Childline and I wasn't aware of a huge youth AIDS problem over here.

Ostrom

Dragan wrote: »

Out of interest, how would you like to see people collecting for charity act?

Some data on the relationship between chugger deployment and charity revenue (if that is the term) might clear up some of this argument

FlutterinBantam

Firm Oxford brogue in the plums might sort it out quicker:mad:

deadhead13

I have heard charities defend chuggers by pointed to the revenue they create. But I imagine, they turn more people off who would otherwise give. Long-term its self-defeating.

Ruu_Old

I'd like to see a return to the days where they just shook a can in your face for some money.

Dord

One of them walked towards me yesterday starting his spiel and was persistent even though I clearly said no. I nicely suggested that he go away otherwise he might have a sore face.

AnonoBoy

If you look like I do you rarely get bothered by chuggers.... or anyone really.

I'm hideously ugly

OldGoat

I like to try and run over any who are on the roads and in the traffic without wearing the proper reflective jackets, then sue the charity for damage to my car after colliding with their 'collectors' who are not using any recognised health & safety measures.

SpitfireIV

Go to 9:39

Puddleduck

Respond in kind.

SORRY, NO! IVE NO MONEY...I WOULD IF I COULD YOU KNOW *shrug and look apologetic*

Larianne

I don't walk to avoid them. I just always say 'no' but in a friendly manner with a real big smile, keep walking and they leave me alone. I think they are trained in combat tactics so someone replying all nice and friendly confuses them and they don't no what to do.

It might be silly question but is there laws out there from preventing these guys/girls from hugging you and verbally attacking you when they are trying to conduct business?

Abi

Next fúcker that asks me for money is going to get a broken up face. There is a shocking amount of them. Had two diffent charities at the door last night.

Two hotties were 1st, did I want to do a monthly DD of just €13?
"No. But any chance of a 3-way?" *eye twitch*
Gone.

Next comes a guy on his own. "Oh hai, so Im from.."
Me: Recession.
Him: Ah no! Ya didnt mention the 'R' word!
Me: Oh didnt like it? Recession recession recession (slowly closing the door) recession recession
Him: Lol. Ok I get it.. Thanks for your..
Me: (just the lips left) Reeeseshoooonnn.

Fúckers.

humanji

Larianne wrote: »

I don't walk to avoid them. I just always say 'no' but in a friendly manner with a real big smile, keep walking and they leave me alone. I think they are trained in combat tactics so someone replying all nice and friendly confuses them and they don't no what to do.

It might be silly question but is there laws out there from preventing these guys/girls from hugging you and verbally attacking you when they are trying to conduct business?

I'd say that in these overly PC times you can have them arrested for sexual assault.

Sephiroth_dude

Whenever I see them I just cross the road to avoid them,I dont fancy givinh out my bank details to complete strangers if it is for charity.

thelordofcheese

Abigayle wrote: »

Next fúcker that asks me for money is going to get a broken up face.

Hi, Would you like to make a small contribution to help concern with it's charity work in the third world?

Dyr

I find that a cheery "**** off" suffices as a response on these occasions

mehfesto2

Feign leprosy

Ebonyellie

i dont really lose the head much but these people make me want to scream, im sick of them ambushing me with "hello do you have a few minutes to be screwed on the street" that enthusiasm has COMMISSION written all over it. I used to pretend to be on the phone but i dont bother anymore, its the only time im rude to people is when im dealing with these clipboard cowboys. So they are upping the ante now you say? im going to have to take tranquillisers.

longshanks

yeah they're a pain in the hoop alright, especially the persistent followy types.
a couple of years back there was a girl stopped me for barnardo's. she was good looking so i listened to the spiel for a couple of minutes.
then i gave her my mates name and address.
then i gave her the same mates mobile and home phone number.
i gave her his place of work, his age and his date of birth (same birthday as me)
i gave her the bank he was in but i got stuck here, cos obviously i didn't know his bank account details, only the branch.
all the time the silly bitch is believing that these are all my details. i tell her 'look i dont have my account number with me, but if you ring me later i'll sort you out'. anyway, my mate and his girlfriend were out for dinner with another mate and his wife that night. ring ring goes the phone, and then he has a 15 minute conversation with the poor confused girl wondering how a complete stranger is listing off all his details, and wanting to know his bank account details.
i only let him know about a week, and three or four phone calls from barnardo's later

Morlar

Robbo wrote: »

With dignity and manners?

+ showing respect to people who obviously do not want to be bothered.

Morlar

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Hi, Would you like to make a small contribution to help concern with it's charity work in the third world?

I was going to make a 'you leave limerick out of this' joke there but it will be the same in Dublin in no time. So I decided not to .

partyguinness

I nearly worked for a charity a few years back (2001)

It involved Concern...basically myself and another would walk around all day calling to houses up to 9pm at night....spinning the story and trying to get their bank details for a direct debit..as if..

This was a Friday and I was supposed to start Monday. Needless to say after a few drinks that weekend I though better of taking the job and never showed up...and of course got plagued by calls all week..

It was pure commission...no salary..I think it was £5.00 (old money) for everyone signed up.

Hrududu

I hates them. Usually I just walk past them without saying anything. But one day I was in a good mood. One bouncy chap did his whole "Oh hai, can you spare a minute." I smiled and said "No sorry." His face immediately lost the happy look and he turned away. No "Ok" or anything from him.

aoibhebree

I hate those guys. I usually ignore them, but if I have time, I stop and have a big loooong chat with them, and let them talk me into signing up for whatever it is. Then, when it comes to filling in the form, I ask why they need my date of birth? When they reply that I need to be over 18, I go "Oh no waaaay, I'm only sixteen!" They look very confused, as I am well in my twenties (and look it!) I say, "Oops, sorry for wasting your time", and wander off.

And that's MY way of being charitable, because I'm sacrificing half an hour of my time to save the rest of the passers-by from being attacked by that particular leech.

Abi

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Hi, Would you like to make a small contribution to help concern with it's charity work in the third world?

Wanna see what it looks like under my car?

Incidently, Ive just noticed an ad looking to recruit these fúckers. Think I will spend the rest of the afternoon prank calling them.

"oh hellurr thur. So Ive just inherited a load of spondoodles, and would like to make a one-off donation of 10k. Should I make the cheque out to YORE MA?"

Valmont

With all the people on boards.ie, surely one them walks among us. We should have a witch hunt!

Abi

Valmont wrote: »

With all the people on boards.ie, surely one them walks among us. We should have a witch hunt!

He who smelt it, dealt it dude.

Lets get him!!

/lights torch

youcrazyjesus!

After reading this thread I'm going to come up an entirely fictional person's name address and details and any time I've the time I'll give them to a chugger. If everybody did it the harrassment and abuse that somehow passes for charity work will end.

shane86

00112984 wrote: »

I got given out to by a chugger a few months ago.

He bounced up to me on O'Connell St, dodgy hair flying and tried to hug me. I am NOT a hugger. I stepped back, gave him a look and said "do NOT do that" and kept walking. He followed me and started trying his usual chugger banter "Oi hai... Oim loike soooooooo glad I sawh you..." so I just turned and told him to f*ck off. He pretended to look all hurt and said I wasn't a very nice person. I agreed and kept walking. At this stage, he was getting pissed off; more at the idea of being ignored than anything and starts sreaming down the street at me "so you want little black children to die of AIDS?! Murderer!!"

Interesting tactic but he worked for Childline and I wasn't aware of a huge youth AIDS problem over here.

Why didnt you ask him how much of the tenner per hour he earns harassing you was he planning to donate?


Anyone ever try chatting up an attractive one?

Ive never actually seen one, most of the very few women doing it are quite frumpy.

FruitLover

I used to donate to a charity through direct debits, until they started using chuggers. I cancelled my donations, then rang them up and told them why I was cancelling, and that I'd never donate again until they stopped using this tactic.

I then started calling up any other charities whose chuggers hassled me, pretending to be a former donor who cancelled his account due to chuggers! Oh, what mischief.

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

After reading this thread I'm going to come up an entirely fictional person's name address and details and any time I've the time I'll give them to a chugger.

Or better yet, get hold of a chugger's details somehow and start giving them out to rival chuggers.

Capt'n Midnight

Larianne wrote:

It might be silly question but is there laws out there from preventing these guys/girls from hugging you and verbally attacking you when they are trying to conduct business?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0026/sec0002.html#zza26y1997s2

2.—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly—

( a ) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or

( b ) causes another to believe on reasonable grounds that he or she is likely immediately to be subjected to any such force or impact,

without the consent of the other.

(2) In subsection (1)(a), "force" includes—
[GA]

( a ) application of heat, light, electric current, noise or any other form of energy, and

If they wave the clipboard in your face and you fear for your safety...

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0026/sec0010.html#zza26y1997s10

Harassment.

10.—(1) Any person who, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, by any means including by use of the telephone, harasses another by persistently following, watching, pestering, besetting or communicating with him or her, shall be guilty of an offence.

(2) For the purposes of this section a person harasses another where—

( a ) he or she, by his or her acts intentionally or recklessly, seriously interferes with the other's peace and privacy or causes alarm, distress or harm to the other, and

( b ) his or her acts are such that a reasonable person would realise that the acts would seriously interfere with the other's peace and privacy or cause alarm, distress or harm to the other.

Borneo Fnctn

Whenever I read one of these threads I go out of my way to get hassled by chuggers just so I can have ago at them. I get a buzz from telling these dickheads what I think of them.

thelordofcheese

jackpalance wrote: »

Whenever I read one of these threads I go out of my way to get hassled by chuggers just so I can have ago at them. I get a buzz from telling these dickheads what I think of them.

Oddly enough, whenever I read one of these threads i have an urge to track down everyone who's posted and harass the living fuck out of them where they work, see how they like it.

00112984

shane86 wrote: »

Most of the very few women doing it are quite frumpy.

Ah yes, but they have personaliteeeee, doncha know.

pablomakaveli

aoibhebree wrote: »

I hate those guys. I usually ignore them, but if I have time, I stop and have a big loooong chat with them, and let them talk me into signing up for whatever it is. Then, when it comes to filling in the form, I ask why they need my date of birth? When they reply that I need to be over 18, I go "Oh no waaaay, I'm only sixteen!" They look very confused, as I am well in my twenties (and look it!) I say, "Oops, sorry for wasting your time", and wander off.

And that's MY way of being charitable, because I'm sacrificing half an hour of my time to save the rest of the passers-by from being attacked by that particular leech.

I do that as well.:D Im 21 but itell them im 17. They've no way of proving otherwise and tend to back off straight away. I also like the look off dissappointment on they're faces when i tell them this.

I remember being stopped by an African lad who was chugging and he started going on about signing up for the charity and acting like he was my buddy so i told him i was seventeen. Then he said "Ah does'nt matter brother i'm only sixteen". I then told him it's illegal to try and sign up people under 18. He looked puzzled and then mumbled ok and walked off.:D

To be honest though they are getting worse. I remember that same day a girl from the same charity followed me up the street for a few minutes reciting some legal disclaimer at lightning speed. I kept saying i was'nt interested but she would'nt stop following me till she recited the legal disclaimer.

If these people were'nt getting getting a commision for doing doing charity work i'd at least have some respect for them. They should be banned from the streets as they are doing the charities they're working for more damage than good.

Helix

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Oddly enough, whenever I read one of these threads i have an urge to track down everyone who's posted and harass the living fuck out of them where they work, see how they like it.

i bet most people on here dont have jobs that consist of irritating the **** out of complete strangers who want nothing to do with them on the street tho

galwayfotogrfr

I usually put my phone up to my ear and walk along staring 1000 yards ahead. if any do bother me i ask them "how much are you being paid". I got wrangled in a few times before for it but was seriously let down when i met someone who said they did it and made lots of money from it. they also said that they went to the charitys christmas party and they all had a free meal and unlimited free wine. that was all a bit much so i started doing the phone thing.

Ass

Tell them you're not interested like a normal human being instead of rather ignorantly ignoring them while they speak to you.

pablomakaveli

Ass wrote: »

Tell them you're not interested like a normal human being instead of rather ignorantly ignoring them while they speak to you.

A normal human being does'nt harass strangers on the street.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Ass wrote: »

Tell them you're not interested like a normal human being instead of rather ignorantly ignoring them while they speak to you.

No, fúck them. If I don't want to be harassed while walking around in town* by some dreadlocked stranger hoping to embarass me into signing a financial, legally binding contract with them on a whim in the middle of the street, tough titty for 'em if I ignore the pricks. I don't think people should hit or scream at them but only becuase they don't deserve second one of my time.


Anyway, if they're gonna beg, the least they could do is get down on their knees.






*Galway

ShooterSF

Next time Im going to tell them I have no bank account and have no interest in donating Then.. I'm going to stay there and keep asking them questions even if they try and ignore me. If they try and get me to donate again I'll just shrug it off say "nah but" and ask more questions. If they start talking to someone else I'm gonna keep interupting on till they tell me to **** off. Then I can turn around and say "Annoying isnt it?"