Waterford Drivers and only Waterford Drivers

Multivan

Dont stop this thread as its about Waterford Drivers in Particular.

Why do so many people insist in keeping FOG LIGHTS on!

It illegal to have fog lights on when theres eh no fog.

And as for bad women drivers my god.

And please please please use your indicators.

Ive lived in a few different places and it only seems to be in Waterford that its so bad!

Whats up like?

Mossy Monk

Why is this limited to only Waterford drivers. This is a nationwide phenomenon

Only women are bad drivers? Some pretty ugly balding women driving Mercs and Audi's then

jimbojazz

I have nothing against women drivers but the amount of them that you see on their mobiles while driving is disturbing. And I see a lot of this while they are on the school runs.

Other than that no real problem with them.

Multivan

Everytime i drive i see women not using indicators and or not using them properly.

and all the times that ive ever had near brushes with people its been women that were totally clueless, even my GF says she cant belive how bad waterford drivers are and women in particular.


FOG LIGHTS are a problem, people here think they are meant to make the car look good. its the law you cant have them on outside FOG if you have yours on im am going to leave my full beams on.

Ive lived in many different places and its worse here

well butty

They got licenses on the strength of their husbands. Most of them have not taken the dirving test and are driving around on their third - fourth license.

sfmonet

I'd say the one that gets me is the high-beams. They see you coming and insist on blinding you....that is really starting to get annoying.

My BF said if he was a guard the amount of tickets he would give out for non-indicating would be astronomical! (women and men!)

;-)

Mossy Monk

Multivan wrote: »

im am going to leave my full beams on.

Which in turn makes you a **** driver.

SUNGOD

well butty wrote: »

They got licenses on the strength of their husbands. .

explain please

seanybiker

only waterford people. Yeah right.

So hows your own driving considering you be looking at everyone else and not on the road.

well butty

SUNGOD wrote: »

explain please

In the olden days a wife was entitled to a license if the husband had one. Also the newer version is the one that as mentioned is on the third-fourth provissional as they are not capable of passing the driving test.

seanybiker

well butty wrote: »

In the olden days a wife was entitled to a license if the husband had one. Also the newer version is the one that as mentioned is on the third-fourth provissional as they are not capable of passing the driving test.

never heard that one but Im sure thats just not a Waterford thing. Me next door neighbour failed her test either 4 or 5 times, cant remember exactly. Last time she was doing it she kicked the tester out of the car half way through cos she got annoyed. Not a hint of a learner sign on her car.

The best woman driver I ever seen has to be me lack. I know I'm biased but jaysus she drives like a man haha. Not a bother on her. She can even reverse, and we all know women cannot do that, well my one is different, its funny seen her actually been able to drive. So proud of her.
Had to import her from Wexico though.

Personall yI find the 30+ male drivers in cars (of any kind) to be the worse drivers, well I suppose at 50+ they just get brutal but thats my experience of other road users.

lynnemc

Hey Multivan if you don't bother coming over the bridge and stay in KK then you wont have to worry about us bad WOMEN drivers that don't use our indicators and always have our fog lights on !:D
We probable have our fog lights on cos your driving up our arses with your full beams on !

Cabaal

Multivan wrote: »

Everytime i drive i see women not using indicators and or not using them properly.

and all the times that ive ever had near brushes with people its been women that were totally clueless, even my GF says she cant belive how bad waterford drivers are and women in particular.

Lets do this instead from my experience...not just in Waterford (why have such a small mind saying this only applys to waterford?)

"Everytime i drive i see men not using indicators and or not using them properly.

and all the times that ive ever had near brushes with people its been men that were totally clueless"

Cabaal

well butty wrote: »

In the olden days a wife was entitled to a license if the husband had one. Also the newer version is the one that as mentioned is on the third-fourth provissional as they are not capable of passing the driving test.

First I've heard of this, my dad thought my mother to drive but she still had to pass a test and this is going back years/

echosound

So it's all us wimmins that are the bad drivers eh?

Funny, considering that out of most of the couples I know (in the 20-35 age bracket), it was the females of the couple who learned to drive first, and who still continue to be the main driver even after the fella has learned to drive. Seems to be a Waterford thing;)
And seanybiker, I'll challenge your lack for the title of "competent driver who is not a man". I've been driving a LWB commercial 4x4 for a few years, and can reverse park better in it than my aul dad (who's currently driving it), and he drives commercial vehicles for a living. So nyah :pac:

the lack of indicators is something that bugs me a lot though in fairness, and not sticking to your own lane when you're approaching roundabouts or traffic lights. My husband was nearly run up off the road onto the footpath by an idiot who drifted across almost hitting him, in the inside lane coming down bunker's hill a while ago, and as for the folly roundabout :rolleyes:

lassykk

what on earth is some people's big problem with fog lights on cars?

Its not that blinding. I drive a lot of miles for work around the country and fog lights are the least of my concerns

- People passing where it is not safe
- People not indicating (all over the country not just in waterford)
- The disgraceful condition of the roads (worse in waterford than most other places I travel to - especially between ferrybank and slieverue)

Get a grip... Leaving fog lights on is no where near as bad as many peoples bad driving habits.

If someone leaves their headlights on I flash them to put them off and this usually works... Fog lights don't bother me at all (and I don't drive with mine on)

Cabaal

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You've not been up around Tipp and Thurles then...roads are the worst I've ever been on so far

Tellox

Can't say I've noticed any exception in waterford which makes us worse than any other county. Only complaint I have is on roundabouts (particularily the one by welsh park) - cars often shoot out in front of me when Im approaching from the presentation side, and rarely does anyone indicate coming off.

Caused a near incident one time - car driver did the usual "I didnt see your bike" bollocks :rolleyes:

Mossy Monk

lassykk wrote: »

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For starters it is illegal to have them on if there is no fog.

lassykk

Mossy Monk wrote: »

For starters it is illegal to have them on if there is no fog.

yeah but surely its such a small insignificant thing compared to drink driving/excessive speed. I think people should focus on more important aspects of driving rather than just some small little peeve they may have

alpha2zulu

The only reason that they are being used 90% of the time is because they look cool:D

I myself found them handy on my old car because it gave me better light on the ditches etc when on country roads. On a dark evening i'll take any assistance i can get.

Besides there not actually much of an annoyance in reality,unless you mesmorize yourself like rabbits in headlights.

old gregg

Tellox wrote: »

Can't say I've noticed any exception in waterford which makes us worse than any other county. Only complaint I have is on roundabouts (particularily the one by welsh park) - cars often shoot out in front of me when Im approaching from the presentation side, and rarely does anyone indicate coming off.

Caused a near incident one time - car driver did the usual "I didnt see your bike" bollocks :rolleyes:

yes well roundabouts seem to cause probs for lots of people. It's amazing that so many people are unaware that you are also supposed to give way to traffic already on the roundabout. In other words, you enter a roundabout and suddenly some clown speeding along decides to join the roundabout from the right, thinking that they have the right of way. I've seen that happen at welsh park and the one at kenny, stephenson & chapman

Multivan

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Which in turn makes you a **** driver.

I will leave my full beams on eh if you leave your fog lights on!

So if you see someone coming at you with full beams then turn off your fogs!!!!

Multivan

alpha2zulu wrote: »

The only reason that they are being used 90% of the time is because they look cool:D

I myself found them handy on my old car because it gave me better light on the ditches etc when on country roads. On a dark evening i'll take any assistance i can get.

Besides there not actually much of an annoyance in reality,unless you mesmorize yourself like rabbits in headlights.

Theyre a pain in the hoop and they arent for normal drivin they are only for in fog, if you start gettin lax with drivin then you tend to get lax on other aspects of drivin, and yes they do annoy on coming drivers when on a dark road some of the cars these days look like friggin space ships with these new lights on and then the FOGS to boot,

Its ilegal to leave them on and you can be stopped for it.

Multivan

lassykk wrote: »

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No its the law and the rules of driving, you cant pick and choose what you want to obey and what not!

If your start gettin lax then you get lax in other areas, you start to creep out more, you start to take more risks at roundabouts you dont indicate anymore,

Drivin is a very serious thing and we forget that,

Its ilegal to have them on.

Multivan

lassykk wrote: »

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Yeah but alot of people just think its cool alot of people dont realise that its ilegal, and the same people prob dont indicate as much and have other problems wtih their driving,

I know this all sounds very anal but bad habits creep in this way.

Mossy Monk

Multivan wrote: »

I will leave my full beams on eh if you leave your fog lights on!

So if you see someone coming at you with full beams then turn off your fogs!!!!

Why would you assume I have front fogs? If you haven't gathered already I do not like people who do drive with them on. I also do not like people who drive with full beams when approaching another car or behind one. People like you have no right to complain if you are willing to break the law just like those you criticise.

Multivan

seanybiker wrote: »

only waterford people. Yeah right.

So hows your own driving considering you be looking at everyone else and not on the road.

Well for a start you kinda have to look at other people on the road before you go on it!:eek: and second when cars come toward you with 4 sets of lights and all these new friggin new beam thinga me jigs i kinda notice it.

I drive with a very precious cargo and actually think its a sign of a good driver who says they stick to the rules of the road.

When you start letting it slide then all the bad habits start.

I know i posted alot on about this but we all need to be more careful on the roads all it takes is one mistake and you could run my child over or someone elses.

We can actually have a laugh about it also

And the title was put in in such a way because i tried to do this thread before and sully said ah it has nothing to do with Waterford

Peace and love people i just want to raise the bar for us all and keep safe

Multivan

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Why would you assume I have front fogs? If you haven't gathered already I do not like people who do drive with them on. I also do not like people who drive with full beams when approaching another car or behind one. People like you have no right to complain if you are willing to break the law just like those you criticise.

Eh your not getting me!

I was suggesting that if you have your fogs on(coming towards me) then i shall PUT my Full beams on, i dont leave my full beams on and actually havent done this to a driver with FOGS on im just trying to get accross my annoyance of this.

Sam Kade

seanybiker wrote: »

Personall yI find the 30+ male drivers in cars (of any kind) to be the worse drivers, well I suppose at 50+ they just get brutal but thats my experience of other road users.

So how many years have you before you hit 30 and become a bad driver?:rolleyes:

chrism2007

the first time i ever drove a car i was coming towards a roundabout in waterford

an elderly woman, probably about 70 was driving in front of me in a micra

she drove towards it in the right lane, hit the roundabout with two wheels then took the 2nd left with no indicator.

after 25 mins in a car i was a better driver than that person whos probably driving 20 years

Multivan

chrism2007 wrote: »

the first time i ever drove a car i was coming towards a roundabout in waterford

an elderly woman, probably about 70 was driving in front of me in a micra

she drove towards it in the right lane, hit the roundabout with two wheels then took the 2nd left with no indicator.

after 25 mins in a car i was a better driver than that person whos probably driving 20 years

As much as i hate the way older people drive i try tolerate them as much as possible, i always give them a wider birth anyway they have probably been driving many years before us and really need the car to get around for shopping etc etc, they were like us one day and we'll be like them one day, with younger whipper snappers saying how bad we are due to our auldness, but there are deffo some aul codgers who are a threat, sorry old people, im not being ageist.

chrism2007

Multivan wrote: »

As much as i hate the way older people drive i try tolerate them as much as possible, i always give them a wider birth anyway they have probably been driving many years before us and really need the car to get around for shopping etc etc, they were like us one day and we'll be like them one day, with younger whipper snappers saying how bad we are due to our auldness, but there are deffo some aul codgers who are a threat, sorry old people, im not being ageist.

oh yeah definitely. sure me auld grandad was in the same situation himself. couldnt do without it.

when he was getting driving lessons the driving instructor actually said to him...

he was the only person he ever seen that actually was a worse driver after the lessons

Multivan

chrism2007 wrote: »

oh yeah definitely. sure me auld grandad was in the same situation himself. couldnt do without it.

when he was getting driving lessons the driving instructor actually said to him...

he was the only person he ever seen that actually was a worse driver after the lessons

Ha ha,

Imagine if he read this if he was here(dont know if you know what i mean) hed prob get angry if he thought you were sayin he was a bad driver:D

Sure youd say the same yourself if your grandson said you were a crap driver:D

chrism2007

sure he was the one that told me.

he would have been the first to admit it. he died there a few years ago but he would have had no bother telling you that and laughing

he just couldnt grasp driving

he lived out in the sticks and would just go to the shop and back. he would have never driven to the city id say

Sully

Was unaware that Waterford people drove differently then anyone else nor did I know that they learned how to drive differently compared to other countys.

Do a lot of driving, wouldnt consider any of the weird driving habbits I encounter Waterford specific. Besides, i have my own bad habbits also and at times I do stupid things when driving.

robtri

Bad Driving isn't limited to Waterford.... I have done many a mile over the years, I was doing 50K miles a years before I moved to waterford and I can say that bad driving is as bad here as it is anywhere else.....
Also to say ladies are bad drivers is just unfounded... considering the insurance stats show they are better drivers then men....

My main moan about driving is being in the correct lane approaching a roundabout....

Multivan

robtri wrote: »

Bad Driving isn't limited to Waterford.... I have done many a mile over the years, I was doing 50K miles a years before I moved to waterford and I can say that bad driving is as bad here as it is anywhere else.....
Also to say ladies are bad drivers is just unfounded... considering the insurance stats show they are better drivers then men....

My main moan about driving is being in the correct lane approaching a roundabout....

I think the insurance companies just hire the quotes for men as we tend to have more testosterone and men behind the wheel of a car can have funny things happen to them, so i reckon thats a stat.

Lads i cant believe how many times i exited lidl for exmple near woodies there, Women coming off roundabout they were indicatin left to come off the roundabout and still have it on by the time they get down to where people are trying to come out of Lidl naturally they think the women are goin into lidl as they have an indicator still on but they dont ive seen some very serious near misses there and they have all been women,i dont rely on indicators alone as women dont know how to use them.

Lets put it like this, you go to a test centre and are a learner and then you go do 40 minutes driving and you are a qualified driver,

It shouldnt be like this, you go to Germany and its hours in the car driving in snow and bad weather which you have to do, I know that the irish system is changed now lets hope its for the better.

Problem is alot of people pass the test and then they throw all the rules out the window

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gscully

I often pass cars that have a headlight out (probably due to the ****e roads). If the driver is unaware of this, sometimes it's just as well they have the fogs on. Otherwise, oncoming traffic might think it's a motorbike and not have the clearance they thought. Still, it is illegal and shouldn't be done!

robtri

Multivan wrote: »

I think the insurance companies just hire the quotes for men as we tend to have more testosterone and men behind the wheel of a car can have funny things happen to them, so i reckon thats a stat.

Lads i cant believe how many times i exited lidl for exmple near woodies there, Women coming off roundabout they were indicatin left to come off the roundabout and still have it on by the time they get down to where people are trying to come out of Lidl naturally they think the women are goin into lidl as they have an indicator still on but they dont ive seen some very serious near misses there and they have all been women,i dont rely on indicators alone as women dont know how to use them.

Lets put it like this, you go to a test centre and are a learner and then you go do 40 minutes driving and you are a qualified driver,

It shouldnt be like this, you go to Germany and its hours in the car driving in snow and bad weather which you have to do, I know that the irish system is changed now lets hope its for the better.

Problem is alot of people pass the test and then they throw all the rules out the window

ohhh go back to F***ing Germany then... with your outdated sexist bull.....
seriously... what planet do you live on... little man syndrome planet...
Insurance companies charge men more because they are a higher risk than women...
So when a guy is behind a wheel and as per you " has funny things happen to them" thats ok, but a woman is just dangerous.... a lot of words jumping to mind here but I don't want to get banned ......

Sully

OP, there are statistics available to show that women drivers are in a lot less accidents then men. This is why they get cheaper insurance.

Sully

Sam Kade wrote: »

What really annoys me are people that think they make no mistakes themselves when driving and everyone else is a bad driver.

Indeed. Until you see something crazy and know you wouldn't do that yourself!

lassykk

robtri wrote: »

ohhh go back to F***ing Germany then... with your outdated sexist bull.....
seriously... what planet do you live on... little man syndrome planet...
Insurance companies charge men more because they are a higher risk than women...
So when a guy is behind a wheel and as per you " has funny things happen to them" thats ok, but a woman is just dangerous.... a lot of words jumping to mind here but I don't want to get banned ......

Here Here!

Think the ranting about fog lights and women drivers is just ridiculous

I'm male... I make mistakes driving... I'm quite sure females make the same mistakes

Fog lights aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things

W1llz0rz

What I've been noticing lately is people are constantly pulling out in front of me, really dangerously, when I'm really close. And they shoot out as fast as possible, as if they're in a massive hurry, and then bloody insist on going about 15kmph.

That's a serious pet hate, especially when there's absolutely nothing behind me, it would be one thing if there was really bad traffic or something and they were waiting ages to get out, but they never are!

Also people need to learn indicators and roundabouts properly.

I say people should have to renew a full license at LEAST every 10 years, but that's a whoooole other conversation.

And it's not always women either - it's everyone. The only **** women drivers are unfortunately the one's rushing to collect kids from school. Always doing very dangerous and stupid things.

Anyone who says the worst drivers a young males are idiots, obviously there are some that are not good, but for the most part they take pride in their cars, love driving and wouldn't do anything to put their car in harm's way.

merlante

Sully wrote: »

OP, there are statistics available to show that women drivers are in a lot less accidents then men. This is why they get cheaper insurance.

In fairness, there's the thing about damn lies and statistics...

There are numerous things that can skew the statistics:
- A small number of lunatic males (we all know a few) letting 'the side' (as it were) down.
- Car racing enthusiasts letting loose.
- Male suicide by car.

Also, depending on the statistics:
- Crashes involving males (for the reasons above) being far more violent and costly than those involving women.

I personally think that males are saddled with high insurance because of boy racers and lunatics: the type of guys that rip around car parks at night or race along the ORR.

Anyway, I guess using indicators and fog lights incorrectly are less likely to cause an accident that you can be connected to. Even cutting across lanes will often be blamed on the car behind, and not being able to reverse is unlikely to be the source of too many insurance payouts. This means that a lot of bad driving is not revealed by the statistics.

Driving skill does not equal risk assessment. I personally think that each driver should be rated for insurance based on his or her skill/good practices behind the wheel, driving performance (possibly measurable by devices in the car) and past history.

gscully

merlante wrote: »

In fairness, there's the thing about damn lies and statistics...

There are numerous things that can skew the statistics:
- A small number of lunatic males (we all know a few) letting 'the side' (as it were) down.
- Car racing enthusiasts letting loose.
- Male suicide by car.

Also, depending on the statistics:
- Crashes involving males (for the reasons above) being far more violent and costly than those involving women.

I personally think that males are saddled with high insurance because of boy racers and lunatics: the type of guys that rip around car parks at night or race along the ORR.

Anyway, I guess using indicators and fog lights incorrectly are less likely to cause an accident that you can be connected to. Even cutting across lanes will often be blamed on the car behind, and not being able to reverse is unlikely to be the source of too many insurance payouts. This means that a lot of bad driving is not revealed by the statistics.

Driving skill does not equal risk assessment. I personally think that each driver should be rated for insurance based on his or her skill/good practices behind the wheel, driving performance (possibly measurable by devices in the car) and past history.

Very well put.

Also car-related, but not Waterford (funnily enough), I think road-tax should be applied based on road-usage. Sounds novel eh? Seriously though...I drive a 1.8 car and drive around 5,000 miles a year. Someone else with an identical car will pay the same road tax as me but will drive 30,000 miles a year!

Multivan

robtri wrote: »

ohhh go back to F***ing Germany then... with your outdated sexist bull.....
seriously... what planet do you live on... little man syndrome planet...
Insurance companies charge men more because they are a higher risk than women...
So when a guy is behind a wheel and as per you " has funny things happen to them" thats ok, but a woman is just dangerous.... a lot of words jumping to mind here but I don't want to get banned ......

Easy there tiger! your gettin all hot and bothered, obviously there are good female drivers and good male drivers, ive just noticed that in waterford there are alot more bad women drivers than men in my experience and alot of bad drivers in general and rants normally take place in the physical sense, if i was in a rant i probably wouldnt be able to type.

I only come on here to chat and get told to **** off! that sort of stuff could get you banned. theres nothing a few stars will cover up!

takola

robtri wrote: »

ohhh go back to F***ing Germany then... with your outdated sexist bull.....
seriously... what planet do you live on... little man syndrome planet...
Insurance companies charge men more because they are a higher risk than women...
So when a guy is behind a wheel and as per you " has funny things happen to them" thats ok, but a woman is just dangerous.... a lot of words jumping to mind here but I don't want to get banned ......

Deep breaths there robtri.

Can we tone down the attitude a little please. No personal comments!

robtri

takola wrote: »

Deep breaths there robtri.

Can we tone down the attitude a little please. No personal comments!

Sorry..... Its just that attitude really gets my goat up..... I have many years experience working in the car insurance game, and its always the same.... men are better drivers then women.... well guys I hate to rain on your parade, you aren't, men are generally worse drivers as a group then women....

The reason why mens accidents are more costly is because they are generally doing "testorone fueled driving",
Yes boy racers do push up the stats, but they are men and go towards male group stats.... sub species as they are....

gscully

This whole men v women is a generalisation.

The fact is that women are statistically lower risk to insure than men.

That does NOT mean that women are better drivers than men. There are many factors to consider in the risk assessment of drivers. How often do they drive? How far do they drive? Are there as many women on the road as men? What are their ages? This is all part of it. Safer does not mean better. It is purely down to each individual driver assessing the situation ahead of them on the road and dealing with it properly.

Let's just accept that, like in every other walk of life, there are bad eggs everywhere. There are bad male drivers and there are bad female drivers.

Let's move on. This was a ridiculous thread from the start and has turned into a farce.