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Failed by education system (long rant)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Hi OP,

    I agree with you to a point, the education system is far from perfect. But youve gotta take all that negative energy and turn it into positive action. Get yourself on a nightcourse (your on the dole, day courses) do something that interests you that way you wont be bored ;) and when your done you can hold your cert/diploma/degree and wave it in those lousy teachers faces.

    Regards.

    Ps. Most courses will let you onboard regardless of Leaving Cert results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    you sound like a very bitter person,grow up and start taking responsibility.there is nobody here who had a 100% positive experience with the education system, i'm sure we've all had a bad teacher at some point!but the fact is,most people just take it on the chin and move on with it. they don't sit around bemoaning the fact they were "let down" for years afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It is I know alot to with my fault, which makes it all the worse!!
    Well that's good, you're not blaming external factors - you did originally say none of it was your fault.
    I guess when the course finished it was a bit like the world disapeared from under me and I was back to the same ****.
    But that happens to plenty of people - it sucks but it's not a reason to be so down. Might you have depression? A typical symptom of it is being bothered by negative yet unremarkable, everyday stuff. Would you consider counselling? Even if you're not ill with depression, it really seems like you'd benefit from it. You appear very negative - help with thinking positively seems quite vital for you.
    there are loads of people in this situation many of whom are doing quite well and I aim to join them, but I have so many fecking ideas I dont know where to start.
    Another example of just not focusing and getting on with it. Write these down. Organise them.
    I dont dwell on my past although it still pisses me off when I think about it, maybe its because I have nothing to do an my mind is completely un ocupied.
    Oh by jebus you can be sure of it! :)
    You remind me very much of when I was looking for work. Having too much time to think made me focus a lot more on the negative than was good for me. And the disorganised thoughts thing too. I think you seem like a person who craves a bit of structure - I know I do. Why not look around for any bit of work at all - a factory, supermarket etc. Just to have something to do. That bit of focus makes you so much more motivated to do other stuff. That friend I was talking about is pissed off about being on a checkout, but at least it gets her out of the house and gives her a bit of routine. And she's doing a computer course, the hours of which are flexible and can be organised around her work.
    I left school and had my confidence even more battered by the people I worked for and worked with they were scum.
    Stop with the blaming. I know some people have it more unlucky than others, but I firmly believe your attitude actually causes negativity.
    I know a girl (friend's sister) who seems to have something wrong with her every day of the week - it's as if she's only happy when she's complaining about something. Now she's had a few knocks in life no doubt, but nothing utterly catastrophic and some of them have been caused by her - e.g. wanker guys breaking her heart. They were pricks but it was her choice to keep running back to them. Now she's got issues with her weight and is blaming everything/one she possibly can for this except herself. What I'm saying is, life can be hard, but there comes a point when we have to stop using it as an excuse. AND we have to learn to deal with how hard life can be.
    I want to get out of this rut and I want to do well I am a hard worker and intelligent but its fustrating becasue I dont know how to use these things and I have so many ideas I dont know which to start at first.
    Again, you're not being pro-active by just sitting there wondering how you go about doing this - talk to someone. A recruitment agent, a careers advisor, your old career guidance teacher maybe? Start by using Google.
    Thanks for all your help even though some of you may think Im a gob****e
    No you're not. If your response had been "oh you're all ganging up on me" then yeah, I'd probably have thought you were one, but it's anything but. You just need some guidance...

    Best of luck. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,373 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    OP, I'm not sure where you are located, but if it is Dublin, contact Pearse College in Crumlin. It is a college dedicated to giving people like you a second chance in the education system. The staff there have years of experience helping students to overcome the damage bad educational experiences have caused.

    Outside Dublin, contact your local VEC.

    I completely understand the devastation a throwaway comment or remark can have on a young person and I am sorry you had to suffer them. I teach with a colleague who was told by a teacher she was 'too stupid to do the Leaving', took him at his word and left school at 15. Only through second chance education did she get the chance to be the fantastic teacher she is today.

    It's not too late to go 'back to school', it will not be like you remember it, I can promise you. It's never too late to do your Leaving if you want, to go to college if you want, to get a degree. Of course, it will be a big step, but you won't regret it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 smileyhappy


    OP, have you been assessed for a specific learning disability or ADD/ADHD?

    If you're highly intelligent (as you say) yet this doesn't translate into the work that you attempt you may well be dyslexic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭yellowcurl


    God you're so bitter!

    There are so many successful people out there who also felt that the educational system failed them, but they got off of their butts and did something about it. Not whinged on about it.

    If you don't like the trade that you're doing apply to FÁS and do a course in something else. Re-train. Build a better, less bitter life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi OP,

    Education system to blame eh???? ( who cares ) It really doesnt matter. The only one that will change YOUR circumstance is YOU.

    I didnt get a great leaving, didnt get a get course BUT I didnt let that stop me, sure I was pissed off, but it was mainly with myself that I realised the true blame lied. I went back and did what I needed to do to get on. Not an easy task but it can be done. You can do the same , its worth the struggle in the long run


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