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Put down the sheep and back away!

  • 02-02-2009 11:18pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Bad news for sheep fanciers in England and across the border!

    On 26 January last month, a new law went into force in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland to make it a criminal offence to possess so-called "extreme" porn. But what is "extreme" porn?

    According to the UK government, porn must possess all three of the following characteristics to be considered "extreme" and so to incur criminal sanction:


    1. That the image is pornographic;
    2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character, and
    3. That the image portrays in an explicit and realistic way, one of the following extreme acts:
    • An act which threatens a person's life;
    • An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
    • An act involving sexual interference with a human corpse,
    • A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."

    The law includes many exemptions, including "extreme" images used in classified/rated films and art. Also, if people have a "good reason" for possessing such images--or if they unwittingly have them on their machines and have not looked at them, then they will not be charged if caught. Likewise, people who "accidentally" stumble upon such images on the internet or who receive them unsolicited via email will not be prosecuted.

    People who participate in the making and distribution of such "extreme" images, however, can expect no such mercy.


    My question
    - will we see now these odd people creeping across our border to safely commit these ugly acts?
    - will it now still be safe to ask someone about their wife, using words like "How is the old heifer in doors?" :rolleyes:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    So it's still ok as long as you don't film it. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    So what about like S,hit Porn??
    I had a good supply of films going up North every month..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    That'll be handy for us Donegal folk.

    Can we bring the sheep?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    So it's still ok as long as you don't film it. :p
    lol

    I had another thought - will RTDH see this as part of a further conspiracy to restrict his rights! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive),

    If it is dead?
    What would be the gain here?


    and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real.

    Oh, right.
    A reasonable person.:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,472 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    so its legal to do all this stuff... but just don't video tape or photograph it:confused:

    if it wasn't legal then they wouldn't need these porn laws


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive),

    If it is dead?
    What would be the gain here?
    Rigourmortis makes it tighter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    julep wrote: »
    Rigourmortis makes it tighter.

    :eek:
    Beast.:o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    Afaik this is still legal but VERY VERY wrong.

    NSFW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,472 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive),

    If it is dead?
    What would be the gain here?

    Oral sex... animal wirh sharp teeth... yep can think of advantages of the animal being dead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    IS MY SCAT COLLECTION SAFE ?!?!?!

    ;[


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    That's probably a good thing.

    Here it is for those who don't have a Flickr accounts. Be warned though. May harm eyes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    They're making sheep porn illegal ???


    That's baaaaaaad news


    gets jacket/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Its wrong on so many levels.

    WTF is with the plastic sheeting? *Shudders*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    This law will make a lot of art illegal and may also make most mainstream comics illegal as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Rule #36:
    There will always be even more fu*ked up sh*t than you just saw.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Pighead better keep his head down then.
    He could be in trouble if some one approaches him with a camera! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    hmmm , you dont wanna see it, its


    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhD. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Biggins wrote: »
    Pighead better keep his head down
    but above the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    Biggins wrote: »
    1. That the image is pornographic;
    2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character, and
    3. That the image portrays in an explicit and realistic way, one of the following extreme acts:
    • An act which threatens a person's life;
    • An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
    • An act involving sexual interference with a human corpse,
    • A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."

    So Rape, erotica-asphyxia, necrophilia and bestiality is banned (and im sure there is many others). was scat left out? Not extreme enough for british MP's :p

    Sounds good on paper but in reality I dont think it will work well.

    A lot of the porn out today looks like borderline rape to me. What if joe bloggs has his computer checked by police and they find a video that contains a deep-throat scene (sry to use that example but you get the idea) or similar, does poor joe get sent off to jail. What exactly constitutes "serious injury" in porn?
    Although Id love to see solicitors argue in court over whether or not a sex act is considered injury.

    I hate to sound sympathetic but why is necrophilia porn banned? Its an extremely small niche porn that involves men/women painted white and pretending to be dead. Are they really trying to push the theory that someone watches necro porn and may decide to run out to a graveyard? How many cases of necro have there been? :confused:
    A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive),
    Yeah I lol'd. Ive heard of a case in America involving a man and roadkill, the defense tried to argue it wasn't an animal because it was dead
    - will we see now these odd people creeping across our border to safely commit these ugly acts?
    Nah, I think the law focuses on possession and I don't think the uk police do checks of computers unless its really serious like suspected child porn or terrorism. Of course that might change with the law, but I still cant see it being enforced due to the ease of getting and availability of porn

    As mentioned in previous posts "So I cant watch extreme porn, but I can perform it?".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Goverment draws up plans for Sheep Shagging Tax.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭IRISH RAIL


    IS MY ANAL FISTING COLLECTION SAFE?:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    IRISH RAIL wrote: »
    IS MY ANAL FISTING COLLECTION SAFE?:eek:

    That depends - have you been able to get your fist up that far in yourself and is it really possible to photograph yourself with the other hand at the same time!

    What's your real name "Harry Elastic Houdini" :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Wonder if this will have any effect on Bizarre magazine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Yeah it will make most issues of Bizarre illegal.

    The law is so vaguely worded that it can cover a hell of a lot of stuff that will be perfectly legal to do between consenting adults but it one of them or somebody else take a photo or video of it they will be committing a crime.

    orestes wrote: »
    Wonder if this will have any effect on Bizarre magazine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    wrote:
    • An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
    • A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."

    So, amputee-porn is fine.

    As is **** a horse.

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    BOFH_139 wrote: »
    Yeah it will make most issues of Bizarre illegal.

    The law is so vaguely worded that it can cover a hell of a lot of stuff that will be perfectly legal to do between consenting adults but it one of them or somebody else take a photo or video of it they will be committing a crime.

    What a load of shit tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    "In attempting to legislate against extremes, man curtails only what lies in-between." - C.M.J. 1945


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    orestes wrote: »
    Wonder if this will have any effect on Bizarre magazine

    Thats actually a good question to a certain extent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Some of those sheep are just asking for it - prick-teasers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Wool ewe would say that..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭spoonbadger


    *Sniff*

    This is horrible :(

    *Sniff*

    /Formats C,D and E drives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Wool ewe would say that..

    Ewe can't trust em - they always welsh on any deal you make with em. Baaaastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Them's the ramifications.

    /wrong kind of horny..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Them's the ramifications.

    /wrong kind of horny..

    I sheepose you're right about that, as they say in the wesht. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Lots of woolly thinking on the part of the legislators, but no doubt they'll ram it down our throats anyway, and expect it to take it like lambs!! :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Lots of woolly thinking on the part of the legislators, but no doubt they'll ram it down our throats anyway, and expect it to take it like lambs!! :rolleyes:
    Spoken like a true sheep expert?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    According to the UK government, porn must possess all three of the following characteristics to be considered "extreme" and so to incur criminal sanction:


    1. That the image is pornographic;
    2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character, and
    3. That the image portrays in an explicit and realistic way, one of the following extreme acts:
    • An act which threatens a person's life;
    • An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
    • An act involving sexual interference with a human corpse,
    • A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."

    [/QUOTE]


    So you can have pron which a woman get her arsed spanked/paddled/croped
    but not her tits ?

    WFT

    Prudes and moralist fúckards,
    Right who raised Mary Whitehouse from the grave ?
    Own up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    What about my collection of furry pr0n?
    Is it safe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    What about my collection of furry pr0n?
    Is it safe?

    Prolly not, cos fecking comics fall under this new law...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Prolly not, cos fecking comics fall under this new law...

    O' Never thought about comics! :eek:

    But they are hand created. That might make a difference!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    The law states image not photo.


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