Escort Mk1/Mk2/Capri

The-Ry-Man06

Im looking for an old ford, one of the above prefferably, for around 1500 to 3000e. Limited budget i know but im willing to put in a bit of restoration work for the right car.This'll be my first car and im 17 so im being slaughtered by insurance and probably cant go above a 1.6L engine. If anyone is selling or knows of any1 whos selling or even a few good places to look let me know. A few suggestions wouldnt hurt either.:pac:

carchaeologist

You are probably looking at a 4 door MK2 at that money,2 doors are nuts expensive,good capris arent cheap either,you will be looking at a 1600 capri,i doubt you would find a 1300,they are dog slow anyway:)
Insurance can be tough to get on an older car being a young driver too.
Best thing is to watch the classifieds,and www.everyfordireland.com

The-Ry-Man06

ye a four door is what id be looking for but there so hard to find as every sort of mk2 in anyway resonable condition is being snapped up. The 1600 capri is a bit more affordable but they seem a bit heavy and fairly long to be driving around dublin especially for me whos never driven anything without power steering. Not sure about insurance as some classics are classed as sport models.

scooby the dog

IVE HAD A FEW IN MY TIME 1600 SPORT 2 DOOR (ORIGINAL) AND 1.6 GHIA 4 DOOR

STILL HAVE BITS & PIECES SOMEWHERE N GARAGE

1.6 GEAR BOX , GLOVE BOX ,ADJUSTABLE DRIVER,S DOOR MIRROR
1.6 BLOCK (711M6015BA ) HEAD F----D,:mad::mad:
FULL SET GREEN TINTED GLASS FROM 2 DOOR 1.6 SPORT

THEM WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

carchaeologist

The-Ry-Man06 wrote: »

ye a four door is what id be looking for but there so hard to find as every sort of mk2 in anyway resonable condition is being snapped up. The 1600 capri is a bit more affordable but they seem a bit heavy and fairly long to be driving around dublin especially for me whos never driven anything without power steering. Not sure about insurance as some classics are classed as sport models.

A capri isnt too heavy to drive really,mine never bothered me much,though every day in dublin traffic might get a bit wearing.
If you chose a car other than a ford it might be easier to pick one up?

The-Ry-Man06

Ye i took a test drive in an opel mata a coupe '71 the other day a real head turner and good price but completely roten underneath. What others would you have in mind apart from the old Golf's which im not too fond of.

The-Ry-Man06

scooby the dog wrote: »

IVE HAD A FEW IN MY TIME 1600 SPORT 2 DOOR (ORIGINAL) AND 1.6 GHIA 4 DOOR

STILL HAVE BITS & PIECES SOMEWHERE N GARAGE

1.6 GEAR BOX , GLOVE BOX ,ADJUSTABLE DRIVER,S DOOR MIRROR
1.6 BLOCK (711M6015BA ) HEAD F----D,:mad::mad:
FULL SET GREEN TINTED GLASS FROM 2 DOOR 1.6 SPORT

THEM WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

Can you imagine if youd held on to them now. i cant find any sort of 2 door 1600 for under 6 thousand.

Whosbetter?

Capri 1600 would be a good option. I had a couple in my time. Insurance shouldnt be too much of a problem. Spares are plentiful and they're DIY friendly too. I never had any probs with the lack of power steering,though I know it can be retro fitted at a cost.
I have an 82 1600 gt4 in diff sheds across 2 diff counties at the mo. Dunno if I'll ever get round to doing it up though.

shagman

AFAIK you wont get insurance on a classic car from any company in Ireland until you're 25. If you know otherwise share the info as a few threads have discussed this previously.

carchaeologist

Whosbetter? wrote: »

Capri 1600 would be a good option. I had a couple in my time. Insurance shouldnt be too much of a problem. Spares are plentiful and they're DIY friendly too. I never had any probs with the lack of power steering,though I know it can be retro fitted at a cost.
I have an 82 1600 gt4 in diff sheds across 2 diff counties at the mo. Dunno if I'll ever get round to doing it up though.

Have you any pics?:)
A good alternative to the MK2 is the Vauxhall chevette(a much better all round car IMO),or something along those lines?

The-Ry-Man06

shagman wrote: »

AFAIK you wont get insurance on a classic car from any company in Ireland until you're 25. If you know otherwise share the info as a few threads have discussed this previously.

Im not sure. What do you mean by classic first of all. i havnt got a quote for anything over the 30 years which defines a classic but i have got a quote from hibernian(aviva now) for a 1.3 ford escort mk3 1988 and it was 2500 for policy holder and 1500 as named driver and this is without any no claims bonus!

Whosbetter?

carchaeologist wrote: »

Have you any pics?:)?

No way of doing pics at the mo. No scanner/printer etc. Must start saving the pennies & learnin how to do that stuff...

Paddy001

www.irishescortcub.com

Few for sale at the moment

carchaeologist

Paddy001 wrote: »

www.irishescortcub.com

Wrong link.. www.irishescortclub.com

corktina

4 door 1100 escort sounds like your best bet.Relatively cheap to buy and you can still make it look like an RS2000 or Mex fairly easily....4 doors arent that popular sio they cost about half what a 2 door does...

check out this one..its a lovely car and is GENUINE Irish and therefore a rarity. Seller is sound too.

http://z8.invisionfree.com/EveryFord_Ireland/index.php?showtopic=7037&hl=

MercMad

I think you'd better check out the whole insurance thing fully though. Most wont insure a car of that age on a regular policy, just 'cos they will quote for an '88 doesn't mean they will for a '78.

As said above you need to be 25 for a classic policy.

I had a 1600 Sport too, first road legal car in my own name. It was white with forest arches and Revolution wheels, Cibie Oscars etc....

To be honest it was a rough car, but I had some craic with it. A good few of my friends at the time had very well sorted Mk2's, 2 with 1740cc motors and all the right bits.

Lovely cars !

corktina

try Hibernian I think they will do it....

carchaeologist

corktina wrote: »

4 door 1100 escort sounds like your best bet.Relatively cheap to buy and you can still make it look like an RS2000 or Mex fairly easily....4 doors arent that popular sio they cost about half what a 2 door does...

check out this one..its a lovely car and is GENUINE Irish and therefore a rarity. Seller is sound too.

http://z8.invisionfree.com/EveryFord_Ireland/index.php?showtopic=7037&hl=

Its a nice car alright,he posts here sometimes too,i never liked the 4 door myself though.

Paddy001

There's also a 2door LHD shell on IEC for €2500 and you could convert it and build it yourself

S.I.R

your choice is quite good plus a decent budget but for that kinda cash you need something complete so id say you'll get a cheap mkIII capper for around 3000 just have to be patient till one pops up... though with the recession scaring the be-jasus out of everyone patience is essential... but worth it in the long run.


you should be able to get a 4dr escort but people are picky when it comes to them and opt for the 2 dr instead

personally 4 doors my pick, but a clean, historically restored one for 3k max...

Best of luck.

MercMad

€2500 for a shell, I'd take that on and make a nice car out of it, proviuded all the bits were available.

carchaeologist

MercMad wrote: »

€2500 for a shell, I'd take that on and make a nice car out of it, provided all the bits were available.

Bits should be easy to come by,plenty of lads with escort oily bits stashed away,though getting them to sell might be another story:p!
I still think the MK2 is overrated though,unless its a well sorted car.

carchaeologist

Seems good enough value,i like the colour too
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Capri/200905191629475/advert
Or maybe this if you can do the work to it..
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Escort/1.1/200851191254432/advert

Redrocket

carchaeologist wrote: »

Seems good enough value,i like the colour too
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Capri/200905191629475/advert
Or maybe this if you can do the work to it..
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Escort/1.1/200851191254432/advert

v nice on the yellow capri, pity its yellow!
escort... i wouldnd touch anything in Pat Murphys yard unless it was with wire brush and mig and thats only to start off with

Blue850

Kadett Coupe on autotrader €3800, restored, 1.2 engine, Manta engines will fit. no flippin contact no.:rolleyes:
Theres also a saloon for €2800

MercMad

The 4 door Escort would not interest me. I think oily bits would be fine but body panels are scarce, especially rear 1/4 panels

I like those Kadett C's, quality motor. I'd put a red top in it ! :cool:

corktina

the escort doesnt need 1/4 panels and is a superb original Irish car. Anyway, I never heard of panels beiong hard to get for an Escort....

MercMad

corktina wrote: »

the escort doesnt need 1/4 panels and is a superb original Irish car. Anyway, I never heard of panels beiong hard to get for an Escort....

...........thats interesting, I'll look for the add. I heard that 1/4 panels were virtually unobtainable due to the amount used on various rally cars. Is that not the case now ?

Paddy001

MercMad wrote: »

...........thats interesting, I'll look for the add. I heard that 1/4 panels were virtually unobtainable due to the amount used on various rally cars. Is that not the case now ?

They are available, every panel is. However quarters and roof skins are expensive. For a resto you can get a wheelarch repair panel for about €20, the whole quarter panel will be ok 99% of the time but they are all available. Even chassis sections are available

carchaeologist

MercMad wrote: »

I like those Kadett C's, quality motor. I'd put a red top in it ! :cool:

Oh yeah,now thats the job!!Something like this,with extra turbo please...

corktina

MercMad wrote: »

...........thats interesting, I'll look for the add. I heard that 1/4 panels were virtually unobtainable due to the amount used on various rally cars. Is that not the case now ?

that would be 2 door 1/4 panels i guess...4 door ones should be easier i would think

Redrocket

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/escort-tec_Panels_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ7537303QQftidZ2QQtZkm
FOR ANY ESCORT PANEL, you name it, he will chop it. He has 3 complete backends for sale there.
Anyhow, lets not turn this into a discussion on what you can/cant get for a ford.

I think the biggest issue this young lad will have is insurance so before he goes looking for any panels or mechanical bits he may sus that out first.

The-Ry-Man06

Cheers for the info lads theres alot to be thinkin about. Im not sure abut the mk2 escort ive taken a look at a few in my price range but they all need a fair bit of work on trim/ slight welding etc. and i dont think that would leave enough in my budget to do all that. But in the capris ive found a fair few which dont need too much work. Problem is i could only go to a 1.6 and the capri has pretty heavy front end and no Power steering. Is it worth my while retro fitting power steering into it wat sort of price etc?? or is it just a matter of getting used to the extra weight????

carchaeologist

The-Ry-Man06 wrote: »

Problem is i could only go to a 1.6 and the capri has pretty heavy front end and no Power steering. Is it worth my while retro fitting power steering into it wat sort of price etc?? or is it just a matter of getting used to the extra weight????

Its not too bad,you will get used to it,its the 2.8s that had the power steering as they would be a bit heavier,if you drive like this you will be grand:p;)(sorry for big pic..)

The-Ry-Man06

Very Nice!! excellent picture too! that looks like serious fun.

The-Ry-Man06

well i got a quote on a Ford Capri 1.6 1985 from AXA for 2700e Comp. Still more than the value of a capri i have in mind but fairly compeditive. Does any1 have any suggestions on where to find cheaper insurance on a car of that age for an 18 yr old driver.

Redrocket

i wouldnd let the lack of power steering put you off a capri, you'll get used to it quick and should only have a problem with if you have a pair tits.

no more ideas on insurance sorry...

carchaeologist

The-Ry-Man06 wrote: »

Very Nice!! excellent picture too! that looks like serious fun.

Oh it is,once pulled a tyre off the rim doing that in mine years back....and shes only 2Litre:p

should only have a problem with if you have tits...

Magnum

The Escort Pictured above is mine, there has been a lot of new parts fitted over the last year or so with receipts to prove, if anyone wants any more info on this car send me a mail or a pm anytime........

Thanks Corktina for putting the Escort up.
Thanks Carchaeologist for the pic up.

panelb/sprayer

i want just on the internet to a web site called www.donedeal.ie and there was a mk11 escort 4 door for 2,500 euro good price fully restored go for it or if you have some elsething else to swap for the same price try go for it. its a very good site and reasonable prices . i was surprised it was going that cheap .

The-Ry-Man06

panelb/sprayer wrote: »

i want just on the internet to a web site called www.donedeal.ie and there was a mk11 escort 4 door for 2,500 euro good price fully restored go for it or if you have some elsething else to swap for the same price try go for it. its a very good site and reasonable prices . i was surprised it was going that cheap .

yea i think thats the same one as above its a great price and the car looks excellent but its just that bit too much out of my price range.:(

STONE ISLAND

hi, do you still have the green tinted glass, very interested.thanks

scooby the dog wrote: »

IVE HAD A FEW IN MY TIME 1600 SPORT 2 DOOR (ORIGINAL) AND 1.6 GHIA 4 DOOR

STILL HAVE BITS & PIECES SOMEWHERE N GARAGE

1.6 GEAR BOX , GLOVE BOX ,ADJUSTABLE DRIVER,S DOOR MIRROR
1.6 BLOCK (711M6015BA ) HEAD F----D,:mad::mad:
FULL SET GREEN TINTED GLASS FROM 2 DOOR 1.6 SPORT

THEM WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

Mycroft H

OP are you any way mechanical?? A 1970's car could be a riddled with mechanical problems not to mention the rust lol.

If you cant do the relativly simple jobs like overhauling the brakes or changing shocks, your budget will be shot when you get a major mechanical problems that you have to pay someone for.

Although there is no better type of cars to break yourself in mechanically, if you are afraid to get your hands dirty there is no point owning a classic.

The-Ry-Man06

landyman wrote: »

OP are you any way mechanical?? A 1970's car could be a riddled with mechanical problems not to mention the rust lol.

If you cant do the relativly simple jobs like overhauling the brakes or changing shocks, your budget will be shot when you get a major mechanical problems that you have to pay someone for.

Although there is no better type of cars to break yourself in mechanically, if you are afraid to get your hands dirty there is no point owning a classic.

Already took the plunge my friend i bought an 85 capri. Ive spent the last week with my head under the bonnet. Ive always loved doin this stuff and now i finally have decent car tinker with. Ive replaced loads of parts already and now it wont start.lol:p. all part of the experience.:)

Mycroft H

The-Ry-Man06 wrote: »

Already took the plunge my friend i bought an 85 capri. Ive spent the last week with my head under the bonnet. Ive always loved doin this stuff and now i finally have decent car tinker with. Ive replaced loads of parts already and now it wont start.lol:p. all part of the experience.:)

What did you replace? Electrics?

SAABMAN

Was at a garage recently where a guy was working on an old yoke. The younger mechanics were fascinated watching him gapping points

Henry Ford III

I'll be gapping points this w/e (I hope).

What it's all about.......:D

scooby the dog

STONE ISLAND wrote: »

hi, do you still have the green tinted glass, very interested.thanks

tinted glass is sold as is the gearbox sorry