Would we be better off being part of UK?

sofia11

I've been thinking about this since I've worked in the UK and had a very positive experience there (89 -98). Personally I found in a larger population people mind their own business more. At that time us Irish noticed a difference in the cost of living, the tax was lower, the car tax was lower at that time and car insurance was cheaper due to the fact there were no huge sums of money paid out in compensation claims, amounts seemed to be capped in relation to particular injuries, don't know if thats still the case.
In my opinion, I felt fortunate to be English speaking when I see the effort it takes for others to learn English. Its difficult enough to travel and find work in another country without having to learn the language, so in my opinion again I'm glad I'm English speaking. It opens up more opportunities for people to work in other countries when they are English speaking, I think we take it for granted. In the big world outside Ireland, Gaeilge doesn't put bread on the table.
Now we are travelling up North to do even the supermarket in the present time and we are told we are unpatriotic. It still pays to import cars from the UK.
Why am I living here then? Well my partners job is here so I had to make a decision and yes I'd go back in the morning if I got the opportunity. This of course was my experience only, that and the frantic Celtic tiger which seems to have changed to a whimpering kitten. Don't know how many of you worked abroad and could see the differences when you returned?

eh........ no

preilly79

We might be better off financially in the short term, but being part of the Euro zone has meant we're not in the same situation that Iceland now finds itself in. I can guess where this thread is going to go ... xenophobic comments, patriotic duty etc.

ejmaztec

The UK's gone to the dogs and beyond, whereas Ireland has only half gone, so I won't be returning to the UK.

OPENROAD

preilly79 wrote: »

We might be better off financially in the short term, but being part of the Euro zone has meant we're not in the same situation that Iceland now finds itself in. I can guess where this thread is going to go ... xenophobic comments, patriotic duty etc.

True we would have had a run on our currency if we were not in the Euro, that said, we can't do anything with our interest rates, nor can we devalue our currency which would probably have been beneficial at the moment.

galwayrush

We left the UK too soon, we should have waited until the Brits built the Motorways here.;)

OPENROAD

ejmaztec wrote: »

The UK's gone to the dogs and beyond, whereas Ireland has only half gone, so I won't be returning to the UK.

We are only half gone are we??while the UK has gone to the dogs??

Our economy will suffer more than the UK this year according to the figures, and the govt finances are in a terrrible terrrible state.

You do realise what a terrible state this country is in?

futura123

ejmaztec wrote: »

The UK's gone to the dogs and beyond, whereas Ireland has only half gone, so I won't be returning to the UK.

ahhh ireland is goin down the tubes fast......... from an economies of scale point of view joining the uk now would be beneficial but aint gonna happen in a million years

Alicat

If you want to be part of the UK, go live in the UK.

Leave me with my spuds and leprechauns.

deadhead13

Being under Thatcher's rule for 18 years - no thanks.

Mark200

Being part of the EU and the Euro zone will save us

OPENROAD

ejmaztec wrote: »

The UK's gone to the dogs and beyond, whereas Ireland has only half gone, so I won't be returning to the UK.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602014&sid=a4t9piuOgbbs&refer=ecalendar

fryup

but nowadays its like they never left.....i mean look around you.....TESCOs, PC world, Currys, Dixons, Halfords, Debenhams etc etc

wake up people we're being recolonised!! (not that i give a ****:cool:)

anyway we've got so much in common we might as well rejoin them

token56

No, never, not a chance, that is all

Collie D

NOPE....

Generalisation to follow: Why do people who move abroad seem to have a superiority complex towards the auld sod?

Dord

No.

Saibh

sofia11 wrote: »

In my opinion, I felt fortunate to be English speaking when I see the effort it takes for others to learn English. Its difficult enough to travel and find work in another country without having to learn the language, so in my opinion again I'm glad I'm English speaking. It opens up more opportunities for people to work in other countries when they are English speaking, I think we take it for granted. In the big world outside Ireland, Gaeilge doesn't put bread on the table.

Does it not open opportunities to speak other languages besides English as well?

ronnie3585

No VRT, ot pots and bitta - yes!

galwayrush

If we had left the UK sooner, we wouldn't have any fecking rail lines.:rolleyes:

philologos

If we are being pragmatic maybe some things could be seen as being better if we did, however, you'd have to try get a whole nation with this whole nostalgic "look what our ancestors fought for" type mentality, and that isn't just going to vanish, it's part of the argument that was used against the Lisbon Treaty and certainly would be used for something like this.

Ponster

OP you might find some interesting answer here :

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055441148

ejmaztec

OPENROAD wrote: »

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602014&sid=a4t9piuOgbbs&refer=ecalendar

I'm referring to the way of life, not the money. If I was interested in the money, I would have never have come here. :P

mikemac

sofia11 wrote: »

the tax was lower,

Realy? What about council tax?
I'm basing this on watching some trash programmes on Channel 4 showing baliffs going around and delivering demands for council tax worth thousands of pounds.

We don't have that here.

ejmaztec

galwayrush wrote: »

If we had left the UK sooner, we wouldn't have any fecking rail lines.:rolleyes:

or later - and get a free health service.

OPENROAD

mikemac wrote: »

We don't have that here.

Yet.

MIN2511

NFW, am not Irish but even i would say a BIG FAT NO!!!!

Bloody brits! up their own arses all the time....

galwayrush

So, what have the English ever done for us?:D

mikemac

OPENROAD wrote: »

Yet.

Agreed!
Only a matter of time and it'll be done in stages.

Much like water charges and it'll be done under some Green agenda like it's in our own interest.

galwayrush

mikemac wrote: »

Realy? What about council tax?
I'm basing this on watching some trash programmes on Channel 4 showing baliffs going around and delivering demands for council tax worth thousands of pounds.

We don't have that here.

Well, we could have left before the Council Tax came in.:D

K-9

Looking at Northern Ireland, I'd say, NO.

ejmaztec

galwayrush wrote: »

So, what have the English ever done for us?:D

Donated St Patrick (possibly) ?

Collie D

ejmaztec wrote: »

Donated St Patrick (possibly) ?

Wasn't he Welsh?

ejmaztec

Collie D wrote: »

Wasn't he Welsh?

It seems to vary - perhaps he was the first multi-national in Ireland.

mikemac

Yep, most sources state he was Welsh though we'll never know for sure.

Sure back in those times, Irish chieftans were raiding the coastlines of Britain. Lol, the Irish were well able to raid other countries before 1169

Collie D

Being Welsh would explain the phenomenon of sheep-shagging in the Wesht

ejmaztec

mikemac wrote: »

Yep, most sources state he was Welsh though we'll never know for sure.

Sure back in those times, Irish chieftans were raiding the coastlines of Britain. Lol, the Irish were well able to raid other countries before 1169

Ironic that the land of saints and scholars had to import a saint. The pay obviously wasn't good enough for one of the locals to volunteer.

Biggins

Would we be better off being part of UK? *sigh* I cant believe someone even has asked that question.

ejmaztec

Collie D wrote: »

Being Welsh would explain the phenomenon of sheep-shagging in the Wesht

That tradition started when somebody mixed up willy warmers and woolly jumpers.

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

Would we be better off being part of UK? *sigh* I cant believe someone even has asked that question.

But it's the weekly "Part of the UK" thread - a tradition in these parts.

Abi

I for one, welcome our British overlords!



/runs

Armin_Tamzarian

I certainly don't think that we would be better off being part of the UK.

I do agree with some of what the OP says though.
I also spent a few years working in England and was pleasantly surprised.
Growing up in Ireland I feel I was conditioned to be anti English.
My personal experiences changed my prejudicies though.
I found the English to be exceptionally warm and welcoming towards the Irish.
I only had one, isolated incident of being the subject of racist abuse from one drunken idiot.

I was left feeling somewhat ashamed of the attitdue shown towards some English people that come over here.

RE the point that was made about people crossing the border in droves for shopping.
This is good for us mainly because Sterling is so weak.
However, if we were part of the UK and earning Sterling it would be quite the opposite of good.

I think that Ireland is in a pretty bad state right now but i dread
to think what sort of a mess we'd be in if we weren't part of the EU.

rossie1977

sure went well the last time :eek:

MIN2511

I can't believe some people are agreeing with this... The recession is everywhere and Britain/UK is not exempt from this....

People suffered for the Irish Independence, look at NI we are far better off. Yes Ireland still lacks good transportation networks, health care etc... We are country with 5million people, London alone has more than that.....

K-9

MIN2511 wrote: »

I can't believe some people are agreeing with this... The recession is everywhere and Britain/UK is not exempt from this....

People suffered for the Irish Independence, look at NI we are far better off. Yes Ireland still lacks good transportation networks, health care etc... We are country with 5million people, London alone has more than that.....

Yep, 4 million out of over 60 million.

Strangely, Scotland seems to be slowly drifting away.

Run_to_da_hills

UK nanny state no thanks.

javaboy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

UK nanny state no thanks.

Downgraded from police state was it?

Mr. Presentable

No

Abi

nipplenuts wrote: »

No

Fine example of not reading a thread. But dont read this one.

Go read the daily gov hate threads, breathe in and out, then come back in with a slap stick 'tude.

K-9

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

UK nanny state no thanks.

Is there any state you'd say thanks too?

mukki

oh yes


we could have churchill car insurance

Auvers

Jesus Christ I think the OPs post count matches her age :rolleyes:

ffs study your history without coming up with such ridiculous bullsh1t

*edit* I am still in shock with this suggestion :eek:

what has the (fake) affluence of the last 10 years done to our society???