Fighting back the 'front foggers'

FredH3as

Well I for one have had it with donkey drivers having their front fog lights on unnecessarily. So now I give them a taste of their own medicine by simply turning on my rear fog light when I have one of these clowns driving behind me. I get some interesting reactions

It needs to stop :mad:

TestTransmission

Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed

Wishbone Ash

FredH3as wrote: »

It needs to stop :mad:

And why then, do you drag yourself down to their level?

And you'd better read the charter!

Seth Brundle

aaw Christ!

Heroditas

jackncoke wrote: »

Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed

They're probably blissfully unaware the bulb needs to be changed.
Of course, there are the folk who seem to think that because one of the bulbs is gone, they need to put the working one on full beam. :rolleyes:

BTE72

Sorry.. but i drive a car with a broken bulb and the front fogs on:o

What really pisses me off is people that think we the outside lanes on dual carriageways and motorways are for cruising along in even when the inner lanes are empty or moving faster aarrrgghh

Seth Brundle

Before this goes any further, let me point out that:

1. some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown
2. fog light threads are forbidden because
   • some folk think they are cool
   • others then criticise them for being the ignorant dicks that they are
   • tensions rise and people get banned, the thread gets locked

I'll leave this open for another while if people just want a general bitching thread but will have no hesitation in locking it and throwing in a few random bannings if it starts to annoy me!

KTRIC

kbannon wrote: »

aaw Christ!

Yes kbannon, they went there :rolleyes:

Heroditas

kbannon wrote: »

Before this goes any further, let me point out that:

1. some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown
2. fog light threads are forbidden because
   • some folk think they are cool
   • others then criticise them for being the ignorant dicks that they are
   • tensions rise and people get banned, the thread gets locked

I'll leave this open for another while if people just want a general bitching thread but will have no hesitation in locking it and throwing in a few random bannings if it starts to annoy me!

Can we try and hook a few SUV drivers with some tasty bait? Pwetty please?

ninty9er

jackncoke wrote: »

Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed

I was one of them today...so i put on the fogs until I got a chance (i.e rain subsided a little) to put in a new dip bulb...now they're 2 different colours:(

I felt awful and I was thinking of the reaction I'd get here.

Rowley Birkin QC

Hows about people who start threads about people who drive with foglights on?

zilog_jones

I have no front fogs, do I win?

Yakult

^I guess its win, till theirs fog of course

FredH3as wrote: »

Well I for one have had it with donkey drivers having their front fog lights on unnecessarily. So now I give them a taste of their own medicine by simply turning on my rear fog light when I have one of these clowns driving behind me. I get some interesting reactions

It needs to stop :mad:

Ever hear of that little thing on your rear view mirror that prevents the light from hitting your eyes?


Your just another donkey driver yourself. No offence of course.

Caliden

My record is 4 cars IN A ROW with only one light. This was at 8pm one evening recently

Berty

STFU.

How about them apples? :mad:

blinding

Do front fog lights work effectively in fog I mean. I do not even know if I have any and certainly do not know how to put them on. Maybe I have had them on by accident.
I think that I should just go back to the push bike, its cheaper anyway.

Wishbone Ash

kbannon wrote: »

some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown

Well, as they say, you learn something new everyday!

And there was me, like Heroditas, wondering why so many felt justified in leaving on their full beam!

Wishbone Ash

blinding wrote: »

Do front fog lights work effectively in fog

They are designed to be used in very dense fog. It can be very disorientating and normal lights are futile. Fog lights illuminate the edge of the road directly in front of the vehicle. At a slow speed, in thick fog, the driver can 'find' their way along using the edge of the road as a guide.

However, many people use they as additional 'spot' lights or, really stupidly, use them with parking/side lights only (a bit like having a huge sign up saying 'I am a retard').

kluivert

I drive with my front fog lights on because it looks cool .

I actually do not find it a problem where people drive with their front fog lights on, but for some reason when I am driving behind someone with their rear fog light on, it drives me nuts lol haha

Those new ultra bright light bulbs that some cars have are more troublesome that bloody fog lights.

Seth Brundle

FFS it takes 20 posts before someone mentions Nissan Micras

Berty

kluivert wrote: »

Those new ultra bright light bulbs that some cars have are more troublesome that bloody fog lights.

Ah it was only a matter of time before somebody mentioned HID's.

You will get used to HID's. Its just the SUV/4x4s and similar height vehicles that cause a nuisance with standard halogens as well because the lights are at your eye level.

What is the countries worst offender for front fog lights?

1992-2003 Nissan Micra.

What is the countries worst offender for rear fog lights?

1998 - present Ford Focus

I personally do not have an issue with front fog lights. I have not encourtered bad enough fog to warrant using fog lights. It needs to be 50 mtrs visibility or less to use them by law.

I tested my single front fog light last night on a back road(local road). I am missing a front fog. I had only my one fog light on and it lit up the left hand side of the road and I could have safely driven at 20kph(knowing the road) on that one light.

Berty

kbannon wrote: »

FFS it takes 20 posts before someone mentions Nissan Micras

SNAP

kluivert

Is there a difference between front spot lights and front fog lights.

The spots seem to be smaller and dont spread the light as well, or maybe they do, never been in a car which had them.

wyndham

Caliden wrote: »

My record is 4 cars IN A ROW with only one light. This was at 8pm one evening recently

Are you sure they weren't motorbikes?

MaxFlower

The bulbs in both my front foglights are blown.

I drive with them switched on.

I see the light on my dash and in my mind I see the four lighted coolness that is the front of my car that other drivers would see if the bulbs were working.

I imagine I am 'the business' and give a wry smile but no one else can see the lights and so they don't get frustrated at me and start threads like this.

See how that works?

Wishbone Ash

kluivert wrote: »

Is there a difference between front spot lights and front fog lights

Ordinary lights and 'spot' lights must be at least 500mm from the ground.

Only fog lights may be fitted lower.

Elessar

Three things you never discuss with friends: Religion, Politics and Foglights

lafors

I drive with them on all the time, I love the way they make my car cool, which in turn makes me cool :cool::cool::cool:

Really though I do have them on sometimes, cause honda were stupid and they don't switch off when you turn your lights off, they're on a separate ring on the stalk.

HIDs....I don't like em but it doesn't bother me

SUV's/van's with the lights high up, again a pain but thats why theres a flippy yoke on rear view mirrors

Ghost bikes (completely different to "bike ninjas") are unbelieveably common these days. Surely its obvious you only have one light working, is it so hard to replace a bulb??

This thread is a troll's dream

zilog_jones

Berty wrote: »

What is the countries worst offender for front fog lights?

1992-2003 Nissan Micra.

I wouldn't say so. They weren't even that common on Irish poverty-spec Micras until after the '98 facelift (or maybe even later). It's much worse with newer cars where they're pretty much standard these days.

Misaligned dipped beams are even worse IMO. How do people manage to have one dipped beam pointing upwards!?

johnnyrotten

kluivert wrote: »

I drive with my front fog lights on because it looks cool .

.

In an Astra

Alun

zilog_jones wrote: »

Misaligned dipped beams are even worse IMO. How do people manage to have one dipped beam pointing upwards!?

Usually by putting in a new bulb, but not aligning the little metal tabs properly with the corresponding gaps in the light housing, meaning the bulb is not straight.

shayser

FredH3as wrote: »

by simply turning on my rear fog light

Tried that but the prick actually turned on his headlights. Couldn't believe it.

minxie

was driving down from kildare to galway
yesterday and met at least two cars
with no lights on whatsoever!!! this was in heavy
traffic coming into tuam..:mad:wtf ~(7 pm)
but the best was at the tom hogan "magic roundabout".....
honda civic no headlights at all :eek: and had two front fogs
on instead.... sweet lord almighty...:(

TouchingVirus

In before ban and/or lock

I suppose you'd think I was one of those asshats with one light working today, blew it on the drive home but replaced it when I parked up in the driveway, go me

eimear1

I live in the middle of nowhere - literally!! And i regularly use front spots/foglights (don't ask me which they are!) when driving at night because it gives me extra light along the side of the road. The back road i drive on has a very uneven edge and i need to be able to see it if i have to hug the edge when meeting an oncoming car - i unreservedly apologise to anyone this offends but if it stops me hitting the ditch i am not going to stop!!!
SO am i the worst offender on the road, or is that the person who never thinks to put lights on in fog/heavy rain/dusk or until it is so dark they can't see where they are going!!!! I always drive with dipped headlights, even on bright sunny days. People think that because they can see where they are going they are alright, perhaps they should consider others who cannot see them til the last minute. Please, people, putting on your lights does NOT cost you petrol!!!

VanhireBoys

I hit a big rock in the road and busted my LH foglight.Its totally destroyed only the black inside remains. I never replaced it cos I dont use them anyway.I forget they are there .. Maybe I could put a bit of silver trunking into the foglight hole and pretend its an "ram-air intake" like the boys

That would look really "wicked" on my TDDi Focus and endow it with extra bhp

Big Nasty

I drive with my side lights and fog lights on DAY and NIGHT! There are a number of reasons I do this:

Slow motorway drivers in the passing lane tend to notice you more quickly and move out of the way.
You get far better road view at night without dazzling other drivers
They look cool!

I picked up this habit whilst living in Germany where it's damn important that you notice the other driver, especially at 200kmh, and it hasn't left me yet!

Anan1

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I drive with my side lights and fog lights on DAY and NIGHT! There are a number of reasons I do this:

Slow motorway drivers in the passing lane tend to notice you more quickly and move out of the way.
You get far better road view at night without dazzling other drivers
They look cool!

I picked up this habit whilst living in Germany where it's damn important that you notice the other driver, especially at 200kmh, and it hasn't left me yet!

Funny guy.:)

Anan1

eimear1 wrote: »

Please, people, putting on your lights does NOT cost you petrol!!!

Actually, it does!

badabinbadaboom

I have neither front fogs or rear fogs. I am not bothered by either being left on on any other car. If someone coming the opposite way forgets to dip his lights I dont even notice, its my passengers who complain
Am I normal?? Do I win?? Am I just amazing?? Can I have a medal??

badabinbadaboom

Anan1 wrote: »

Actually, it does!

I know I should contest that, but my revs still drop when I switch on my high beams so Im not so sure.

Anan1

badabinbadaboom wrote: »

I know I should contest that, but my revs still drop when I switch on my high beams so Im not so sure.

Your revs drop because you're putting more load on the alternator.

badabinbadaboom

Yeah but wouldnt the alternator be turning at the same speed an with the same friction?

eimear1

Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!

Big Nasty

eimear1 wrote: »

Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!

+ 1

That's why Volvos side lights turn on automatically. I just like to take it a little further!

galwaytt

shayser wrote: »

Tried that but the prick actually turned on his headlights. Couldn't believe it.

...yeah, so would I. The rear fog light, is exactly that - a FOG light. To use in any other circumstance (at least in the UK) is an actual road traffic offence, for which you can be summonsed. Similarly, to deliberately blind another driver, is dangerous, and you're putting people's lives at risk. So this makes you a 'better' driver ? And for what - 'cos you don't like them?


FWIW, my car does not have 'fog lights'. It does, however, have 'driving lights' - and keeping with good safety practice, and soon to be mandated by law on new cars (DRL's), I leave them on. Something motorcycles have had for years btw.

I'd remove the switch and hard-wire them to the ign before I'd turn them off, either.

Auxiliary lighting can be a very positive road safety aid.

Anan1

badabinbadaboom wrote: »

Yeah but wouldnt the alternator be turning at the same speed an with the same friction?

It's an alternator, not a magic producer of free electricity!;)

eimear1 wrote: »

Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!

I agree completely about headlights. Inappropriate use of foglights is dangerous though, that's why their use is illegal except in adverse weather.

Big Nasty

Gotta say that while I find full beams and rear fog lights on for no good reason dazzling and annoying, front fog lights do not bother me in the least. There are 'little things' that make one marque look smarter to another and for me that would be wheels, indicators (clear / frosted lens) and fog lamps. I also find them useful for motorway / rural driving. I'm sorry, but mine are staying ON!

ssmith6287

wudnt like to see ya in scandanavia where its the norm to have your fog lights on whilst driving

Senna

A few years ago driving with front fogs seemed to be left solely to the civc's corolla's etc. Now its seems like every people carrier i pass has their fogs on.

They have never bothered me, dont see why people get annoyed about them, people with one headlight badly aligned is much worse. (up here in donegal, i'd say more cars have them on than not).

Matt Simis

ssmith6287 wrote: »

wudnt like to see ya in scandanavia where its the norm to have your fog lights on whilst driving

DRLs, not Fog lights. They can tell the difference, you obviously cant.