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Fighting back the 'front foggers'

  • 30-01-2009 11:35pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 540 ✭✭✭


    Well I for one have had it with donkey drivers having their front fog lights on unnecessarily. So now I give them a taste of their own medicine by simply turning on my rear fog light when I have one of these clowns driving behind me. I get some interesting reactions :D

    It needs to stop :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,064 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    FredH3as wrote: »
    It needs to stop :mad:
    And why then, do you drag yourself down to their level? :confused:

    And you'd better read the charter! ;)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    aaw Christ!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,688 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    jackncoke wrote: »
    Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed

    They're probably blissfully unaware the bulb needs to be changed.
    Of course, there are the folk who seem to think that because one of the bulbs is gone, they need to put the working one on full beam. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭BTE72


    Sorry.. but i drive a car with a broken bulb and the front fogs on:o

    What really pisses me off is people that think we the outside lanes on dual carriageways and motorways are for cruising along in even when the inner lanes are empty or moving faster aarrrgghh


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Before this goes any further, let me point out that:
    1. some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown
    2. fog light threads are forbidden because
      • some folk think they are cool
      • others then criticise them for being the ignorant dicks that they are
      • tensions rise and people get banned, the thread gets locked

    I'll leave this open for another while if people just want a general bitching thread but will have no hesitation in locking it and throwing in a few random bannings if it starts to annoy me! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    kbannon wrote: »
    aaw Christ!

    Yes kbannon, they went there :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,688 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    kbannon wrote: »
    Before this goes any further, let me point out that:
    1. some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown
    2. fog light threads are forbidden because
      • some folk think they are cool
      • others then criticise them for being the ignorant dicks that they are
      • tensions rise and people get banned, the thread gets locked

    I'll leave this open for another while if people just want a general bitching thread but will have no hesitation in locking it and throwing in a few random bannings if it starts to annoy me! :D

    Can we try and hook a few SUV drivers with some tasty bait? Pwetty please? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    jackncoke wrote: »
    Hows about people with only one headlight working?Its beyond me why people dont get a bulb changed

    I was one of them today...so i put on the fogs until I got a chance (i.e rain subsided a little) to put in a new dip bulb...now they're 2 different colours:(

    I felt awful and I was thinking of the reaction I'd get here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Hows about people who start threads about people who drive with foglights on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I have no front fogs, do I win?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    ^I guess its win, till theirs fog of course :p
    FredH3as wrote: »
    Well I for one have had it with donkey drivers having their front fog lights on unnecessarily. So now I give them a taste of their own medicine by simply turning on my rear fog light when I have one of these clowns driving behind me. I get some interesting reactions :D

    It needs to stop :mad:

    Ever hear of that little thing on your rear view mirror that prevents the light from hitting your eyes?


    Your just another donkey driver yourself. No offence of course. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    My record is 4 cars IN A ROW with only one light. This was at 8pm one evening recently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    STFU.

    How about them apples? :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Do front fog lights work effectively in fog I mean. I do not even know if I have any and certainly do not know how to put them on. Maybe I have had them on by accident.
    I think that I should just go back to the push bike, its cheaper anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,064 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    kbannon wrote: »
    some cars automatically turn on the full beam if the dip bulb is blown
    Well, as they say, you learn something new everyday!

    And there was me, like Heroditas, wondering why so many felt justified in leaving on their full beam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,064 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    blinding wrote: »
    Do front fog lights work effectively in fog
    They are designed to be used in very dense fog. It can be very disorientating and normal lights are futile. Fog lights illuminate the edge of the road directly in front of the vehicle. At a slow speed, in thick fog, the driver can 'find' their way along using the edge of the road as a guide.

    However, many people use they as additional 'spot' lights or, really stupidly, use them with parking/side lights only (a bit like having a huge sign up saying 'I am a retard').


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭kluivert


    I drive with my front fog lights on because it looks cool :D.

    I actually do not find it a problem where people drive with their front fog lights on, but for some reason when I am driving behind someone with their rear fog light on, it drives me nuts lol haha :D

    Those new ultra bright light bulbs that some cars have are more troublesome that bloody fog lights.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    FFS it takes 20 posts before someone mentions Nissan Micras


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    kluivert wrote: »
    Those new ultra bright light bulbs that some cars have are more troublesome that bloody fog lights.

    Ah it was only a matter of time before somebody mentioned HID's.

    You will get used to HID's. Its just the SUV/4x4s and similar height vehicles that cause a nuisance with standard halogens as well because the lights are at your eye level.

    What is the countries worst offender for front fog lights?

    1992-2003 Nissan Micra.

    What is the countries worst offender for rear fog lights?

    1998 - present Ford Focus

    I personally do not have an issue with front fog lights. I have not encourtered bad enough fog to warrant using fog lights. It needs to be 50 mtrs visibility or less to use them by law.

    I tested my single front fog light last night on a back road(local road). I am missing a front fog. I had only my one fog light on and it lit up the left hand side of the road and I could have safely driven at 20kph(knowing the road) on that one light.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    kbannon wrote: »
    FFS it takes 20 posts before someone mentions Nissan Micras

    SNAP :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭kluivert


    Is there a difference between front spot lights and front fog lights.

    The spots seem to be smaller and dont spread the light as well, or maybe they do, never been in a car which had them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    Caliden wrote: »
    My record is 4 cars IN A ROW with only one light. This was at 8pm one evening recently


    Are you sure they weren't motorbikes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭MaxFlower


    The bulbs in both my front foglights are blown.

    I drive with them switched on.

    I see the light on my dash and in my mind I see the four lighted coolness that is the front of my car that other drivers would see if the bulbs were working.

    I imagine I am 'the business' and give a wry smile but no one else can see the lights and so they don't get frustrated at me and start threads like this.

    See how that works?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,064 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    kluivert wrote: »
    Is there a difference between front spot lights and front fog lights
    Ordinary lights and 'spot' lights must be at least 500mm from the ground.

    Only fog lights may be fitted lower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Three things you never discuss with friends: Religion, Politics and Foglights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭lafors


    I drive with them on all the time, I love the way they make my car cool, which in turn makes me cool :cool::cool::cool:

    Really though I do have them on sometimes, cause honda were stupid and they don't switch off when you turn your lights off, they're on a separate ring on the stalk.

    HIDs....I don't like em but it doesn't bother me

    SUV's/van's with the lights high up, again a pain but thats why theres a flippy yoke on rear view mirrors

    Ghost bikes (completely different to "bike ninjas") are unbelieveably common these days. Surely its obvious you only have one light working, is it so hard to replace a bulb??

    This thread is a troll's dream ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Berty wrote: »
    What is the countries worst offender for front fog lights?

    1992-2003 Nissan Micra.
    I wouldn't say so. They weren't even that common on Irish poverty-spec Micras until after the '98 facelift (or maybe even later). It's much worse with newer cars where they're pretty much standard these days.

    Misaligned dipped beams are even worse IMO. How do people manage to have one dipped beam pointing upwards!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    kluivert wrote: »
    I drive with my front fog lights on because it looks cool :D.

    .

    In an Astra :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,529 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Misaligned dipped beams are even worse IMO. How do people manage to have one dipped beam pointing upwards!?
    Usually by putting in a new bulb, but not aligning the little metal tabs properly with the corresponding gaps in the light housing, meaning the bulb is not straight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭shayser


    FredH3as wrote: »
    by simply turning on my rear fog light
    Tried that but the prick actually turned on his headlights. Couldn't believe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭minxie


    was driving down from kildare to galway
    yesterday and met at least two cars
    with no lights on whatsoever!!! this was in heavy
    traffic coming into tuam..:mad:wtf ~(7 pm)
    but the best was at the tom hogan "magic roundabout".....
    honda civic no headlights at all :eek: and had two front fogs
    on instead.... sweet lord almighty...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    In before ban and/or lock :D

    I suppose you'd think I was one of those asshats with one light working today, blew it on the drive home but replaced it when I parked up in the driveway, go me :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭eimear1


    I live in the middle of nowhere - literally!! And i regularly use front spots/foglights (don't ask me which they are!) when driving at night because it gives me extra light along the side of the road. The back road i drive on has a very uneven edge and i need to be able to see it if i have to hug the edge when meeting an oncoming car - i unreservedly apologise to anyone this offends but if it stops me hitting the ditch i am not going to stop!!!
    SO am i the worst offender on the road, or is that the person who never thinks to put lights on in fog/heavy rain/dusk or until it is so dark they can't see where they are going!!!! I always drive with dipped headlights, even on bright sunny days. People think that because they can see where they are going they are alright, perhaps they should consider others who cannot see them til the last minute. Please, people, putting on your lights does NOT cost you petrol!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭VanhireBoys


    I hit a big rock in the road and busted my LH foglight.Its totally destroyed only the black inside remains. I never replaced it cos I dont use them anyway.I forget they are there .. Maybe I could put a bit of silver trunking into the foglight hole and pretend its an "ram-air intake" like the boys :p

    That would look really "wicked" on my TDDi Focus and endow it with extra bhp :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I drive with my side lights and fog lights on DAY and NIGHT! There are a number of reasons I do this:

    Slow motorway drivers in the passing lane tend to notice you more quickly and move out of the way.
    You get far better road view at night without dazzling other drivers
    They look cool!

    I picked up this habit whilst living in Germany where it's damn important that you notice the other driver, especially at 200kmh, and it hasn't left me yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    I drive with my side lights and fog lights on DAY and NIGHT! There are a number of reasons I do this:

    Slow motorway drivers in the passing lane tend to notice you more quickly and move out of the way.
    You get far better road view at night without dazzling other drivers
    They look cool!

    I picked up this habit whilst living in Germany where it's damn important that you notice the other driver, especially at 200kmh, and it hasn't left me yet!
    Funny guy.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    eimear1 wrote: »
    Please, people, putting on your lights does NOT cost you petrol!!!
    Actually, it does!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭badabinbadaboom


    I have neither front fogs or rear fogs. I am not bothered by either being left on on any other car. If someone coming the opposite way forgets to dip his lights I dont even notice, its my passengers who complain:confused:
    Am I normal?? Do I win?? Am I just amazing?? Can I have a medal??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭badabinbadaboom


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Actually, it does!

    I know I should contest that, but my revs still drop when I switch on my high beams so Im not so sure.:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I know I should contest that, but my revs still drop when I switch on my high beams so Im not so sure.:confused:
    Your revs drop because you're putting more load on the alternator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭badabinbadaboom


    Yeah but wouldnt the alternator be turning at the same speed an with the same friction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭eimear1


    Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    eimear1 wrote: »
    Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!

    + 1

    That's why Volvos side lights turn on automatically. I just like to take it a little further!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    shayser wrote: »
    Tried that but the prick actually turned on his headlights. Couldn't believe it.

    ...yeah, so would I. The rear fog light, is exactly that - a FOG light. To use in any other circumstance (at least in the UK) is an actual road traffic offence, for which you can be summonsed. Similarly, to deliberately blind another driver, is dangerous, and you're putting people's lives at risk. So this makes you a 'better' driver ? And for what - 'cos you don't like them?


    FWIW, my car does not have 'fog lights'. It does, however, have 'driving lights' - and keeping with good safety practice, and soon to be mandated by law on new cars (DRL's), I leave them on. Something motorcycles have had for years btw.

    I'd remove the switch and hard-wire them to the ign before I'd turn them off, either.

    Auxiliary lighting can be a very positive road safety aid.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Yeah but wouldnt the alternator be turning at the same speed an with the same friction?
    It's an alternator, not a magic producer of free electricity!;)
    eimear1 wrote: »
    Apologies for my lack of knowledge on how much petrol it takes, but i don't think i mind using an extra drop if it means someone can see me coming!!! Surely it would make the roads safer!
    I agree completely about headlights. Inappropriate use of foglights is dangerous though, that's why their use is illegal except in adverse weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Gotta say that while I find full beams and rear fog lights on for no good reason dazzling and annoying, front fog lights do not bother me in the least. There are 'little things' that make one marque look smarter to another and for me that would be wheels, indicators (clear / frosted lens) and fog lamps. I also find them useful for motorway / rural driving. I'm sorry, but mine are staying ON!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭ssmith6287


    wudnt like to see ya in scandanavia where its the norm to have your fog lights on whilst driving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    A few years ago driving with front fogs seemed to be left solely to the civc's corolla's etc. Now its seems like every people carrier i pass has their fogs on.

    They have never bothered me, dont see why people get annoyed about them, people with one headlight badly aligned is much worse. (up here in donegal, i'd say more cars have them on than not).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    ssmith6287 wrote: »
    wudnt like to see ya in scandanavia where its the norm to have your fog lights on whilst driving


    DRLs, not Fog lights. They can tell the difference, you obviously cant.


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