Dunnes - Asda

ejmaztec

Is it another rumour or has Dunnes finally owned up to being sold off to Asda/Walmart?

Perhaps a Dunnes employee can spill the beans.

shellyboo

There's been a rumour going around for months and months, with the latest spin being that someone's seen a box of George clothes in a Dunnes warehouse with the labels ripped out. I'm hearing lots of "my friend who works in Dunnes says", but since Dunnes are so tight-lipped it's impossible to get a comment out of them.

The only way we're going to find out for sure is when it happens for sure.

sadista

Well i read it in the paper, so that means it MUST be true

But seriously, I wouldnt be surprised. My local dunnes used to be 24hr, 3 months ago thay started closing at 12, and this week they decided they are going to be closed at 8pm. They're F***ed

ejmaztec

My understanding is that the staff were told last night, but as you say, it won't happen until it happens, if it happens.

K-9

Rumours too that the clothes department wasn't being stocked up, it looked a bit naked!

The line was they would wait for Asda to take over. Anyway, seem to be stocking up again.

They opened a big store near me, it's doing little, the old one still is busy enough.

K-9

ejmaztec wrote: »

My understanding is that the staff were told last night, but as you say, it won't happen until it happens, if it happens.

Oh, decent source? or is this just another I know a man sources!

sadista

My mate works for em, I could ring her up and ask her but i dont really care that much. Anyway if asda takes over and existing staff get to keep their jobs, they will be treated much better because dunnes management are a shower of B****rds.

K-9

sadista wrote: »

My mate works for em, I could ring her up and ask her but i dont really care that much. Anyway if asda takes over and existing staff get to keep their jobs, they will be treated much better because dunnes management are a shower of B****rds.

Not sure what they're like, owned by Walmart though!

Mondo_ie

its a recession. closing times will be earlier to cut cost. no point opening till 12 if no one comes in to shop etc. think outside the box on fix cost that are in some way controllable esb, Heat, Staff . if they do sell it will be when they have looked at all the angles....Do U really think that a true IRISH conpany wants to Sell up? they have seen recessions before

Cabaal

Asda is owned and operated by Walmart, anyone who wants Dunnes to be bought by Asda is insane imho!

Mondo_ie

sadista wrote: »

My mate works for em, I could ring her up and ask her but i dont really care that much. Anyway if asda takes over and existing staff get to keep their jobs, they will be treated much better because dunnes management are a shower of B****rds.

smart it would be the other way round .they will get rid of the staff on top rate and offer red circle mon - fri staff redundance. the management would stay the same.

tallaghtoutlaws

Cabaal wrote: »

Asda is owned and operated by Walmart, anyone who wants Dunnes to be bought by Asda is insane imho!

Why? A friend of mine manages a huge walmart in Wisconsin. So whats wrong with the take over? Walmart/Asda owning Dunnes may actually create some competition in this country and drive down prices.

K-9

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Why? A friend of mine manages a huge walmart in Wisconsin. So whats wrong with the take over? Walmart/Asda owning Dunnes may actually create some competition in this country and drive down prices.

Good for competition, bad for workers rights.

Cabaal

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Why? A friend of mine manages a huge walmart in Wisconsin. So whats wrong with the take over? Walmart/Asda owning Dunnes may actually create some competition in this country and drive down prices.

Clearly you know little of Walmarts business practices and the affects its had on small town America in a very very negative way

I suggest you do some reading

JohnC.

sadista wrote: »

But seriously, I wouldnt be surprised. My local dunnes used to be 24hr, 3 months ago thay started closing at 12, and this week they decided they are going to be closed at 8pm. They're F***ed

It's not just Dunnes cutting 24-hour opening. Tesco are too.

K-9

Cabaal wrote: »

Clearly you know little of Walmarts business practices and the affects its had on small town America in a very very negative way

I suggest you do some reading

True and I'm no fan of Trade Unions but they make O'Leary look like a shop steward.

JohnC.

ejmaztec wrote: »

My understanding is that the staff were told last night

No, staff were told nothing. It's just people putting more legs on the rumour. Nobody knows anything for sure, though the Mandate union say they are still hearing from reliable sources that there are at least discussions about it.

tallaghtoutlaws

Cabaal wrote: »

Clearly you know little of Walmarts business practices and the affects its had on small town America in a very very negative way

I suggest you do some reading

I know the history behind Walmart and small towns and villages in the US ffs I live over 6 months of the year. Small businesses couldnt live up to the competition of better prices was one of the main reasons. And for workers rights. America's laws for workers right are completely different to both here and the UK and it is well known that Irish and British law protects the worker more than it does in the US. Asda have had none of the same issues small town America had. The reason asda were already established as are Dunnes. As I said a friend of mine works for them and he said the rights he has are no different to any other company. Same BS everywhere no matter who you work for. Ask alot of Dunnes employees they constantly give out about their management now :rolleyes:

Lollipops23

my best mate went for a job interview in Dunnes many moons ago(bout 4 years) and while in the office noticed some crates with the Walmart logo on it. Not sure what that meant but they've obviously some kind of relationship with them.

ejmaztec

Seanies32 wrote: »

Oh, decent source? or is this just another I know a man sources!

I'll have to find out from my wife about the guy who told her that he was told by some people working at a Dunnes branch. :P

wmpdd3

Mondo_ie wrote: »

smart it would be the other way round .they will get rid of the staff on top rate and offer red circle mon - fri staff redundance. the management would stay the same.

Hi,

Just curious, what are red circle redundancies?

Corruptedmorals

I work in Dunnes. I don't think it's happening. My friend in work saw a Sainsbury's box in the stockroom (oo..it deepens) but I didn't see said box so I'd reserve judgement. The place has been bare for ages, I think that was more to do with stiniginess in actually buying stock. Anyway, plenty of new stock and the floor is almost full. I think a few Dunnes will close this year, they're really bad at locating them. Grafton Street is fecked I think, so is the Ilac who've already moved everything to their ground floor and closed off the first floor. North earl Street drapery is gone. Lots of stores have gone back from 24 hrs. Mine is a Dublin flagship, I'd imagine it'll weather this. Sales figures are lowest ever apparently, hours are jumping up and down (up next week, it's supposed to pick up then..) and the store is closing an hour earlier each weekday (which makes part-time shifts a waste of time) and opening one hour later on Sunday. But it's still not disastrous, in my store at least. Very very short-staffed, all temp staff let go. I think Dunnes close together in Cork and Limerick are probably suffering a lot worse.

I think the story with boxes is they might have a friendly agreement with the same supplier or somesuch. Dunnes also have a friendly agreement with Lipsy (it even comes up on the computer. Supplier- Lipsy), not of course, with karen Millen or the rest.

sadista

Kahless wrote: »

It's not just Dunnes cutting 24-hour opening. Tesco are too.

Tesco arent closing early they're just letting al their probationary staff go.

K-9

sadista wrote: »

Tesco arent closing early they're just letting al their probationary staff go.

Think they did here. Not 100% though.

JohnC.

sadista wrote: »

Tesco arent closing early they're just letting al their probationary staff go.

The 24-hour Tesco in Waterford won't be any more. The petrol station is already closing early too. It is supposed to be happening elsewhere too.

brettmirl

sadista wrote: »

Tesco arent closing early they're just letting al their probationary staff go.

Yes they are. The one in Ashbourne stopped its 24 hour opening about 3 weeks before Christmas.

wmpdd3

Kahless wrote: »

The 24-hour Tesco in Waterford won't be any more. The petrol station is already closing early too. It is supposed to be happening elsewhere too.

See the waterford city forum, this store will stay 24 hr.

JohnC.

wmpdd3 wrote: »

See the waterford city forum, this store will stay 24 hr.

Yeah, that's where I saw it wasn't going to be 24-hour any more. Nobody has said otherwise there.

wmpdd3

Oh sorry that thread went a bit off topic, no plans to shut the main store during the nights as far as I know.

Sponge Bob

I was in a Dunnes in Galway an hour back , the clothing section has not looked so dire since the early 1990s or even the late 1980s and the household section is almost gone .

Corruptedmorals

Dunnes Grafton Street and Georges Street (I assume the grocery part too, not certain though) to close in the next week. The 2 Dunnes in the Ilac look like they're not going to hold out much longer either. I'm shocked that the second store on Grafton Street to close is a Dunnes..would have thought there'd be a lot more worse off on the street..

sunnyside

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

I. Dunnes also have a friendly agreement with Lipsy (it even comes up on the computer. Supplier- Lipsy), not of course, with karen Millen or the rest.

I don't think Dunnes and Karen Millen are very good friends;)

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

I'm shocked that the second store on Grafton Street to close is a Dunnes..would have thought there'd be a lot more worse off on the street..

I can imagine people who aren't familiar with the shops being shocked that the Grafton Street Dunnes is closing. It does sound very bad but that tiny shop is the most pointless branch ever, I'd say there are better branches in Leitrim! People would expect the Grafton Street branch to be a big flagship like Henry Street but it's so not.

What was the first Grafton St shop to close?

sunnyside

sunnyside wrote: »

I don't think Dunnes and Karen Millen are very good friends;)



I can imagine people who aren't familiar with the shops being shocked that the Grafton Street Dunnes is closing. It does sound very bad but that tiny shop is the most pointless branch ever, I'd say there are better branches in Leitrim! People would expect the Grafton Street branch to be a big flagship like Henry Street but it's so not.

What was the first Grafton St shop to close?

Ahh but it is/was 3 minutes from thee flag ship Dunnes. St. Stephens green.
Leitrim didn't have a set of traffic lights until 2 years ago....nevermind a dunnes.

ArseBurger

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I know the history behind Walmart and small towns and villages in the US ffs I live over 6 months of the year. Small businesses couldnt live up to the competition of better prices was one of the main reasons. And for workers rights. America's laws for workers right are completely different to both here and the UK and it is well known that Irish and British law protects the worker more than it does in the US. Asda have had none of the same issues small town America had. The reason asda were already established as are Dunnes. As I said a friend of mine works for them and he said the rights he has are no different to any other company. Same BS everywhere no matter who you work for. Ask alot of Dunnes employees they constantly give out about their management now :rolleyes:

You may want to investigate terminology such as 'farm gate pricing' and their tactics to push small manufacturers and suppliers to deliver goods and products at below cost prices, globally.

Walmart are substantially responsible for China's stranglehold on American imports after lobbying Clinton to open up trade a decade ago.

sunnyside

Wouldn't closing the small branches be a move closer to an Asda takeover because Asda would only want the big shops?

milly4ever

shellyboo wrote: »

There's been a rumour going around for months and months, with the latest spin being that someone's seen a box of George clothes in a Dunnes warehouse with the labels ripped out. I'm hearing lots of "my friend who works in Dunnes says", but since Dunnes are so tight-lipped it's impossible to get a comment out of them.

The only way we're going to find out for sure is when it happens for sure.

dunnes forestside were selling a lot of stock with labels cut off at very cheap prices last week. george maybe? although why would they do this?

Corruptedmorals

Those manky navy and grey dresses and the black jeans for €5? They're some sort of outside promotion, but I haven't a clue.

Dunnes Georges Street isn't small though. Just too close to a flagship. The first shop on Grafton Street to close was Nine West.

Lollipops23

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

The first shop on Grafton Street to close was Nine West.

nine west closed??:eek:

i was in Dunnes on nth earl st on sunday,by god there was barely skeleton staff,literally 1 girl on the express line and 2 on the main checkouts!and they've neverr been the most effiecient branch either so it took extra long!

sunnyside

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Those manky navy and grey dresses and the black jeans for €5? They're some sort of outside promotion, but I haven't a clue.
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Aren't they exactly the sort of thing you'd get from George at Asda? I speculate that the takeover is very likely. I'd prefer it to stay as Dunnes, much as I like the UK shops it's nice having a few Irish ones left.

zuroph

I dont want dunnes bought out by walmart, i saw that docuementry by micheal moore and you can buy guns their and thats the last thing ireland needs now, theres more shootings every day, imagine if u cud just buy them in dunnes?! :eek:

ejmaztec

zuroph wrote: »

I dont want dunnes bought out by walmart, i saw that docuementry by micheal moore and you can buy guns their and thats the last thing ireland needs now, theres more shootings every day, imagine if u cud just buy them in dunnes?! :eek:

Brilliant! Does Mr George do a range of fashionable Kevlar jackets and matching accessories? Just the job for the recession.

tallaghtoutlaws

zuroph wrote: »

I dont want dunnes bought out by walmart, i saw that docuementry by micheal moore and you can buy guns their and thats the last thing ireland needs now, theres more shootings every day, imagine if u cud just buy them in dunnes?! :eek:

ASDA in the UK doesnt sell guns now does it? :rolleyes: Why do people think the buy over will turn the stores into giant walmarts. Asda stores still look like what they were before the Walmart group bought them out. Michael Moore is a tool anyway.

zuroph

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

ASDA in the UK doesnt sell guns now does it?

i dont know i've never been to asda.

tallaghtoutlaws

zuroph wrote: »

i dont know i've never been to asda.

Sarcasm not your strong point I see. No they don't. Gun laws in both the UK and Ireland prevent the sales of weapons in supermarkets :rolleyes:

morrowa64

Look at one of the newspapers today...Dunnes managers being told they have to work sundays now for no pay and take a day off during the week in lieu...not sure if thats a sign of selling up, Tesco managers have been doing the same thing for years

Amalgam

Of course, it has repercussions elsewhere, companies move stock 'on behalf' of Dunnes. Situated in North Dublin. The relationship between the companies is blurred. If you thought working for Dunnes was grotty, try working for the stock management and transport companies operating 'under' them, managed with a ball and chain. I pity my ex work colleagues.

JDxtra

Check out the latest Dunnes ads on TV. That arrow graphic they are using is a lot like what Asda use.

tallaghtoutlaws

ArseBurger wrote: »

You may want to investigate terminology such as 'farm gate pricing' and their tactics to push small manufacturers and suppliers to deliver goods and products at below cost prices, globally.

Walmart are substantially responsible for China's stranglehold on American imports after lobbying Clinton to open up trade a decade ago.

What has farm gate pricing go to do with it? Farm Gate pricing is the cost of the product at the source/farm before adding tax and transport etc etc. Its well known that alot of American companies import from Asia. In fact if you google America's main source of imported goods you will Find China and Thailand at the top of the list. Its not just Walmart. Everyone knows these big companies source cheaper products from abroad.

But Asda in the UK trade the same way now as they have always done and this thread is Walmart/Asda buying Dunnes. The end of it all if the take over happens Walmart will have to follow Irish Labour Laws, Import Laws, etc etc. American laws are so mixed up when it comes to business in areas such as workers rights, unions and import laws due to the amount of money floating around and bent senators being payed off to pass bills in congress to line their own pockets.

Sirtoyou

JDxtra wrote: »

Check out the latest Dunnes ads on TV. That arrow graphic they are using is a lot like what Asda use.

Yeah I just saw some fat auld wan slap herself on the ass too.

ash_18x

morrowa64 wrote: »

Look at one of the newspapers today...Dunnes managers being told they have to work sundays now for no pay and take a day off during the week in lieu...not sure if thats a sign of selling up, Tesco managers have been doing the same thing for years

My husband is a manager in Dunnes, he has always had to work a sunday and take a day off in lieu of it during the week, he never gets paid extra for working a sunday, some of the older guys do get paid though as they are on different contracts so maybe this is what they are cutting.
Most of the managers who were still in their probabtionary period have been given their notice.

anyone notice the adds on the radio lately?? the slogan for the grocery adds are 'its because we are irish' and the slogan for the drapery department is 'always better value', rumours in his store is that Asda will be supplying the clothes department. who knows though!

Jip

I imagine your husband only joined Dunnes in the last 2 or 3 years ? Before that you'd would be paid extra for working on a Sunday but a couple of years ago, a long time before the rumours of a take over began, they got rid of that clause in any new contract so it's nothing to do with that.