CAR IMPOUNDED NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!

snypers

i got stopped at a checkpoint last nite and my car was seized for no tax.
i cant afford to get it out for 2 weeks but by then the bill will be huge!!!
what can i do?can i just leave the car with them for good?

PLEASE HELP!!

Morlar

Sorry to hear that - with the cost of car tax going up and up this will probably happen more and more often. Do you mind me asking how far out of tax was it ?

Drummerboy08

Thats unlucky buddy.

Not a single thing in the world you can do about it. Must have been out a while if they impounded it?

Learn your lesson. Dont drive your car without tax next time, whether you can afford it or not.

snypers

thanks!i got the car in may but didnt get the log book for about 2 months after that!!i know i let it go on for too long but i couldnt really afford it!!

snypers

do you know if i can just leave the car with them alltogether?

Drummerboy08

If its not claimed it will be scrapped i'd imagine. Unless they deem it viable enough to put it to auction.

ha-ya-said-what

if you leave it with them you know what they do with it????

....... it'll be sent off after a few mths and destroyed, doesn't matter if it's banger or a new Bently, or Aston... it gets out and gets destroyed.

If you know the drill on them all you have to do is get a recovery operator to bring it out for you!! They might tell you oh we're not releasing your vehicle until you produce a vaild tax disc, but you can hire a recovery truck to go in and get it out. They won't allow you to drive it out cos its not a road legal car, heance you need the truck to get it out!!

snypers

would i still have to pay something if that was the case?

ha-ya-said-what

yes! you pay the release fee, and the recovery operator for doing his job....... nothing is free nowdays

and you must have the release fee paid and be able to produce paperwork or no operator will take the car out for you

ha-ya-said-what

other option is pay the car tax and... the release fee!

djtechnics1210

You can sign a form stating that you no longer want the vehicle and are surrendering it to the state, but id be more worried about the 2 summonses that you will more than likely be receiving due to no tax and no tax displayed, and the court appearance relating to them.
You could get a fine for a few hundred in court

snypers

but i was told nothing about court by the guards?

Savman

Borrow the money & get the car ffs.

mickdw

Ah now, no tax since may. you deserve to have it taken away. I bet you were one of those people going around saying "Sure it will go without it" and laughing at the fools paying for road tax.
If its diesel they will probably find it full of green stuff too.

mike65

This is harsh but fair I think



Why buy a car you wont tax (for whatever reason)?

Paulw

They don't have to tell you. They just process the paperwork, and then let the courts do the rest. You should receive details in the post.

In all fairness, you've had long enough to tax the car.

djtechnics1210

snypers wrote: »

but i was told nothing about court by the guards?

They don't have to tell you, and by seizing your car they fully explained to you the offence you were committing, namely not having tax and so they have informed you of the offence. They now have a six month period to issue summonses to you fro the date the offence was detected,

cabrwab

If you couldnt afford it you shouldn't have bought it! But u are looking for help, pay the tax get it out. What type of car is it. You had a nice free ride!

-Chris-

snypers wrote: »

thanks!i got the car in may but didnt get the log book for about 2 months after that!!i know i let it go on for too long but i couldnt really afford it!!

You couldn't save enough money to pay the tax in 9 months??

If you had taken it off the road, the savings in petrol would have paid the tax long ago.

I agree with Captain Picard!

very rough.. how much will it be to back date the tax that far?



edit: go to guarda station and ask them to stamp the form saying it was of the road for a few of them months.. save some money

djtechnics1210

At the very least the judge will make you pay the back tax (arrears) on what revenue lost because of non tax, so that would be arrears from may 08 to jan 09.
But if you or your solicitor were able to give judge good enough reasons you might get off with just a fine.
Your best bet is to get car out of pound and try and talk to the garda that seized your car, explain to him your circumstances and see if he might just give you ticket instead of summons.

BlackWizard

I'd love to know the value for the ops car. Cannot afford tax on a car you just bought sounds odd.

But old Mrs. Jones down the road with her Fiesta which she owned for 10 years and now skipped tax for 6 months due to financial reasons seems more reaistic.

acer911

im sorry man but we nearly all in the smae boat... i had to sell my car and down grade to afford tax and insurance.... u should never of bought it if u couldnt afford it... u were lucky to get away with it for so long but you have to pay the price now, which will include 2 summons....

thats the way it goes...

happyhappy

Deleted User wrote: »

very rough.. how much will it be to back date the tax that far?



edit: go to guarda station and ask them to stamp the form saying it was of the road for a few of them months.. save some money

that wont work - the form can't be stamped saying the car was off the road, if it was stopped and seized a few days ago!! they do check the reg and see if it was on the road before stamping it!

JoeySully

happyhappy wrote: »

that wont work - the form can't be stamped saying the car was off the road, if it was stopped and seized a few days ago!! they do check the reg and see if it was on the road before stamping it!

they never checked anything when i got it done and iv done this in several guarda stations

Drummerboy08

And the award for thread of the year goes to.................

djtechnics1210

Deleted User wrote: »

very rough.. how much will it be to back date the tax that far?



edit: go to guarda station and ask them to stamp the form saying it was of the road for a few of them months.. save some money

And then end up getting prosecuted for making a false declaration, thats the last thing op needs.

peasant

Deleted User wrote: »

edit: go to guarda station and ask them to stamp the form saying it was of the road for a few of them months.. save some money

JoeySully wrote: »

they never checked anything when i got it done and iv done this in several guarda stations

The OP is in enough hot water as it is.

I'd be grateful if people would refrain from suggesting "tricks" that could potentially land him in jail for fraud

milltown

Find out if you will also be liable for the cost of the Gardai scrapping the car btw. At €50 a day (or more, I forget) you can't afford to procrastinate. If you can, just bring over the keys and sign over the car to them to stop the clock on the mounting bill. You couldn't afford to have that car on the road so just leave it with them. Even so, don't be too surprised if the judge still makes you pay the tax you evaded on a car you no longer own.

I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for you.

Paulw

From browsing, you'll have to pay the back tax on the car, and then have to pay for the storage of the car.

From Citizen's Information website -
Storage of impounded vehicles costs 127 euro for the first day and 38 euro for each subsequent storage day.

So, your best bet is to get a loan and pay your tax, pay for the removal of the vehicle and then the storage. It could be a very large fee.

And, it can be made worse if it does go to court. You'll then have solicitor fees to worry about too.

FredH3as

Just imagine a world where people would just pay tax/insurance like they are supposed to then we would't have to take time out of out busy workday to offer dodgy advise, as in this thread. :rolleyes:

Robertr

Relax, it will not end up in court. Having no tax is a fixed penalty offense. It is €60.00 if paid within 28 days. You don't even get any points.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/accidents-gardai-and-penalties/penalty-points-fixed-charge-offences/index.html

Same thing happened to me last year but I was four months over due, thought is was a bit harsh by the Garda involved as it was just down to being lazy, but I guess the fact that I was in a bus lane during rush our traffic didn't help the situation.

Suffice to say I got the message. Instead of being late for work I had to spend the day running around like a headless chicken getting the tax paid, going to the Garda station to pay the fine and storage and then go to the recovery center to get the car. Got to work at about 15:00!!

:o:o:o:o

Drummerboy08

Robertr wrote: »

Relax, it will not end up in court. Having no tax is a fixed penalty offense. It is €60.00 if paid within 28 days. You don't even get any points.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/accidents-gardai-and-penalties/penalty-points-fixed-charge-offences/index.html

Same thing happened to me last year but I was four months over due, thought is was a bit harsh by the Garda involved as it was just down to being lazy, but I guess the fact that I was in a bus lane during rush our traffic didn't help the situation.

Suffice to say I got the message. Instead of being late for work I had to spend the day running around like a headless chicken getting the tax paid, going to the Garda station to pay the fine and storage and then go to the recovery center to get the car. Got to work at about 15:00!!

:o:o:o:o

:eek::eek::eek:

Guy:Incognito

Robertr wrote: »

Same thing happened to me last year but I was four months over due, thought is was a bit harsh by the Garda involved as it was just down to being lazy, but I guess the fact that I was in a bus lane during rush our traffic didn't help the situation.

Even ignoreing the bus lane stuff, you honestly think you should be cut some slack on account of laziness? The mind boggles.

andrewh5

milltown wrote: »

I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for you.

Me too. Let's face it, you tried to get away with not paying tax and got caught.

11811

You just have to pay the release fee of 120 or 130 or so, you then have ten days to tax the car, just pay this off somehow, and you've ten days to get the tax sorted, if you can't by then park up the car till you can. leaving it longer will just be too expensive.

djtechnics1210

Robertr wrote: »

Relax, it will not end up in court. Having no tax is a fixed penalty offense. It is €60.00 if paid within 28 days. You don't even get any points.

As a serving member of AGS, i have yet to see someone who has had their car seized under section 41 r.t.a (no tax) with tax out for over 3 months not get summonsed to court,
Fixed penalty fines are for when vehicles tax is not out by more than 2 months, after that you have a power of seizure.
Plus once car is towed/impounded it goes on computer and then the paper trail starts and no member is going to risk getting in trouble over someone's car that wasn't taxed for that long.
Go into the summons court in town.... everyday the summonses are for no tax, no nct, no driving licence.... all are fixed penalty offences but all in court by way of summons.

Hagar

Moved to Cycling.

Davidth88

I have no sympathy at all .......if you cannot afford to pay the tax then you cannot afford the car.

Was the car insured ? or was that something else you couldn't afford.

I am all for these rules to be honest , after all I pay my car tax why shouldn't everyone else.

If I had my way any car found with no tax/insurance/Valid NCT should be taken off the road , unless you can prove you have just purchased the car of course.

Pay up !

ergonomics

TBH OP, I don't really have much sympathy for you either, but I will give you a tip.

You do realise you can pay your tax for just 3 months, or 6 months? You don't have to pay for the whole year. Hell, I think you can even pay it a month at a time. As a student, I have never been able to afford tax for the whole year, and only pay for as many months as I can.

If you can't even afford to pay for 3 months at a time then sell your car because by you can't afford it.

omega man

Davidth88 wrote: »

I have no sympathy at all .......if you cannot afford to pay the tax then you cannot afford the car.

Was the car insured ? or was that something else you couldn't afford.

I am all for these rules to be honest , after all I pay my car tax why shouldn't everyone else.

If I had my way any car found with no tax/insurance/Valid NCT should be taken off the road , unless you can prove you have just purchased the car of course.

Pay up !

+1 sorry OP. Really pisses me off when people do this. My wife just bought a jeep which the previous owner never paid tax on. They could afford a fairly expensive motor but were to tight or just plain ignorant to pay their way like the rest of us :mad:

Wing Walker

Agree with many sentiments here. If you can't afford the car tax, then you shouldn't have it on the road! I pay a high rate of road tax; t'ain't easy and it's a huge chunk out of my pay but I pay it because I have to.

There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't pay it, unless, as Davidth88 says, you just bought it, which you didn't.

I know a "business man", plenty of spondulix, who has a number of vehicles; and over half of them have no road tax at any given time. Really annoying to see guys like this getting away with it while the ordinary guy has to scrimp and save to keep his much needed motor on the road.

Sorry, mini-rant over

Back on topic, do whatever you have to, but get your car out of the pound ASAP. Like your home being your castle, your motor is your chariot. You'll miss it if it goes to the crushinator. Even if you have to park it up for a few months, you'll still have it.

Mr.David

Robertr wrote: »

Same thing happened to me last year but I was four months over due, thought is was a bit harsh by the Garda involved as it was just down to being lazy, but I guess the fact that I was in a bus lane during rush our traffic didn't help the situation.

I might try not paying my mortgage, car loan, credit card bills etc and claim that I should not suffer repercusions as I am simply "lazy".

Whatever about someone not being able to afford to pay their car tax, laziness should be punished to the extreme. :mad:

Run_to_da_hills

One would want to be an idiot to be driving untaxed these days, with ANPR and sophisticated Gatsos being rolled out across the country, the cops keep digital records and can now do you if you attempt to make a false declaration that your car has been off the road.

joey54

Davidth88 wrote: »

I have no sympathy at all .......if you cannot afford to pay the tax then you cannot afford the car.

Was the car insured ? or was that something else you couldn't afford.

I am all for these rules to be honest , after all I pay my car tax why shouldn't everyone else.

If I had my way any car found with no tax/insurance/Valid NCT should be taken off the road , unless you can prove you have just purchased the car of course.

Pay up !

Completely agree. Also don't mean t go off topic but want to say this too.

The same people who don't pay their road tax are probably the very people who'd complain or make a claim if their car hit a pothole. Well make a contribution to improving our roads by paying your road tax.

Your car was confiscated, and rightly so. If you can't afford the road tax you can't afford the car.

Mena

joey54 wrote: »

Completely agree. Also don't mean t go off topic but want to say this too.

The same people who don't pay their road tax are probably the very people who'd complain or make a claim if their car hit a pothole. Well make a contribution to improving our roads by paying your road tax.

If only road tax was ringfenced for actual road maintenance... :mad:

Bluetonic

Whats this road tax that is spoken of and should I be paying it?

Robertr

As a serving member of AGS, i have yet to see someone who has had their car seized under section 41 r.t.a (no tax) with tax out for over 3 months not get summonsed to court,
Fixed penalty fines are for when vehicles tax is not out by more than 2 months, after that you have a power of seizure.
Plus once car is towed/impounded it goes on computer and then the paper trail starts and no member is going to risk getting in trouble over someone's car that wasn't taxed for that long.
Go into the summons court in town.... everyday the summonses are for no tax, no nct, no driving licence.... all are fixed penalty offences but all in court by way of summons.

I just got the standard fixed penalty notice in the post with no summons.

Mr.David wrote: »

I might try not paying my mortgage, car loan, credit card bills etc and claim that I should not suffer repercusions as I am simply "lazy".

Whatever about someone not being able to afford to pay their car tax, laziness should be punished to the extreme. :mad:

Lovely to see all the high horsers out in force today!

What I meant was that I was not trying to get away with it intentionally. It was not taxed when I bought it (from a VW main dealer!) and I didn't notice for the first month. Then between work and a new baby I just never got the chance to get to the tax office. It was allways on my mind as one of the those things that I have to do tomorrow. The reason I said lazy is I would believe that you have to make the time to get these things sorted and that being busy is not an excuse. Also, I didn't say that I should not "suffer repercusions", I just think that taking the car was a bit harsh, thats all.

Mr.David

Robertr wrote: »

Lovely to see all the high horsers out in force today!

What I meant was that I was not trying to get away with it intentionally. It was not taxed when I bought it (from a VW main dealer!) and I didn't notice for the first month. Then between work and a new baby I just never got the chance to get to the tax office. It was allways on my mind as one of the those things that I have to do tomorrow. The reason I said lazy is I would believe that you have to make the time to get these things sorted and that being busy is not an excuse. Also, I didn't say that I should not "suffer repercusions", I just think that taking the car was a bit harsh, thats all.

Come on, dont be ridiculous it takes 5 mins to pay your tax. Do it online. No excuse. If you havent the time/motivation to pay your tax then dont get the car in the first place. Sorry, but I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for you.

Anan1

Robertr wrote: »

Lovely to see all the high horsers out in force today!

What I meant was that I was not trying to get away with it intentionally. It was not taxed when I bought it (from a VW main dealer!) and I didn't notice for the first month. Then between work and a new baby I just never got the chance to get to the tax office. It was allways on my mind as one of the those things that I have to do tomorrow. The reason I said lazy is I would believe that you have to make the time to get these things sorted and that being busy is not an excuse. Also, I didn't say that I should not "suffer repercusions", I just think that taking the car was a bit harsh, thats all.

High horses? You could have taxed the car by post. Sorry, but I think taking your car was proper order. Why should we subsidise you?

Robertr

Mr.David wrote: »

Come on, dont be ridiculous it takes 5 mins to pay your tax. Do it online. No excuse. If you havent the time/motivation to pay your tax then dont get the car in the first place. Sorry, but I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for you.

Don't think I was looking for any sympathy. Just telling my story to the OP.

Anan1 wrote: »

High horses? You could have taxed the car by post. Sorry, but I think taking your car was proper order. Why should we subsidise you?

Where did I suggest that you should subsidise me? I have never not paid any tax that I had to. Just was late on this occasion. Anyway, you're probably late for mass so I won't take up any more of your time.