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Chartership Deadline is This Friday

  • 28-01-2009 9:02pm
    #1
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Any one doing it? My report is bound and just needs to be signed.




    And please no posts saying its not relevant. If you think its not this thread isn't for you!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Eoin D


    Out of Curiosity how long out of college are you? Chartership is the next milestone for me so have to get to it!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Eoin D wrote: »
    Out of Curiosity how long out of college are you? Chartership is the next milestone for me so have to get to it!

    4.5 years. Plus I'm doing a masters part time which counts as an extra year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭Nukem


    kearnsr wrote: »
    4.5 years. Plus I'm doing a masters part time which counts as an extra year
    Any link to the rules and regs of this. Doing a Masters and out of College nearly 3 years now and wouldnt mind thinking about Chartership


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Nukem wrote: »
    Any link to the rules and regs of this. Doing a Masters and out of College nearly 3 years now and wouldnt mind thinking about Chartership

    This should be what you're looking for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭Nukem


    kearnsr wrote: »
    This should be what you're looking for
    Excellent - cheers


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    all done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭murfie


    Fair play kearnsr, hope it all goes well. Is it just a report and not a formal exam. I am pretty sure the PE here in the US is an exam.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    murfie wrote: »
    Fair play kearnsr, hope it all goes well. Is it just a report and not a formal exam. I am pretty sure the PE here in the US is an exam.

    Its a report and interview

    You have to do a PE exam in the US for each state you want to practice. I worked in NY and at the time I was told that you cant transfer your chatership to the title of PE. In Canada yes but America no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Eoin D


    Good luck. I can imagine it being quite difficult to become chartered engineers with the IEI based on work in this country for the next while seeing as anyone who hasn't built up experience by now will be hard pressed to do so in the next few years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭sul02


    congrats kearnsr thats a big achievement, what area are you working in? Did your company provide a mentor etc for this? i know PM groups graduate programme is geared toward becoming chartered, however the company i work for does not and there are no chartered engineers working there - possibly a major drawback?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    sul02 wrote: »
    congrats kearnsr thats a big achievement, what area are you working in? Did your company provide a mentor etc for this? i know PM groups graduate programme is geared toward becoming chartered, however the company i work for does not and there are no chartered engineers working there - possibly a major drawback?

    I work as a civil enigneer but I'm a bit of a jack of all trades and have done everything from structural engineering to transport engineering.

    I've worked for a few companies so its hard to have a mentor from place to place so I just kept a record of what I had worked on (I kept reports etc that I could use for a later date to refer back to).

    Working with a company with no chartered eningeers is bad from a business point of view. At the very least you should have a one per group in there (one chatered one senior one enigneer two grads 2/3 cad lads)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    sul02 wrote: »
    congrats kearnsr thats a big achievement, what area are you working in? Did your company provide a mentor etc for this? i know PM groups graduate programme is geared toward becoming chartered, however the company i work for does not and there are no chartered engineers working there - possibly a major drawback?

    I also applied for mine at the end of Jan and over the last 11 years, like yourself, had worked neither with any Chartered Engineers nor within any structures geared towards Chartered status (I work in manufacturing, so they seem to be rarer than in civil / structural / public sector). Instead I proposed my current and last bosses, both of whom have degrees in Engineering and senior positions and both were accepted.

    Report assessment day is Feb 25th - hopefully they'll accept my report is up to the required standard and I'll go forward to interview.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Got the interview dates to day. 23rd of March. Not much time to prepare plus I've an exam that day and the day after so I'll be looking to do it another day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Mine is 31st March - more work to do now, prepare for that...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Mine is 31st March - more work to do now, prepare for that...

    I wish that was the only thing I had to prepare for!

    I have to do a presentation of a VISSIM network if that makes you feel any better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭sul02


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Mine is 31st March - more work to do now, prepare for that...
    I work in manufacturing aswell, nearly 2 years now, another few to go before im eligible to apply. Any advice for someone in my position? Also do you think the 4yr min experience is realistic or would it take longer? Cheers for any info and good luck in the interview.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    keep an eye on what your doing. Keep a log or something. Your meant to do quarterly reports to track progress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭up them Schteps


    Good luck with the chartership lads, unfortunatly i'm only finishing 3rd year this year so a long way left for me yet! I'm trying to make up my mind about what to do after college.

    Just one thing I saw in an earlier post, does work experience outside Ireland not count towards chartership with EI?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Good luck with the chartership lads, unfortunatly i'm only finishing 3rd year this year so a long way left for me yet! I'm trying to make up my mind about what to do after college.

    Just one thing I saw in an earlier post, does work experience outside Ireland not count towards chartership with EI?

    I put a summer internship in america down as work experience. The one they really look at is responsible work experience i.e after you finish college


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Interview is tomorrow

    pain in the arse preparing for it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    How'd you get on?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Its hard to tell. One or two tough questions that I didnt excel in but my boss reckons he wouldnt have known the answer so who knows.

    should find out in June


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Membership board seems to meet third week of the month so you should know late May / early June. If you get a letter addressed to Mr. So&so, CHARTERED ENGINEER, it'll be a clue...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭murfie


    they should put spoiler tags on the outside of the envelope! :P

    Finger crossed for you kearnsr


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I was told the decision would be made the 27th and the letter the week later

    The more I think about the interview the less well I think it went. You just cant tell

    On a side note I meet on of the interviewers yesterday at a work meeting. He either didnt notice me or just ignored me. Its so easy to read things into something thats not there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Don't worry about it - what's done is done. A cynic might suggest that the IEI would have to find something seriously dodgy about an applicant before they'll turn them down - the membership fees for C. Eng are higher than for Ordinary members.... I'd prefer to think they award it on merit though.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    BA BAI CEng MIEI


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭Kareir


    Congrats, man!

    _Kar


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Kareir wrote: »
    Congrats, man!

    _Kar

    Cheers!

    Just to note the next deadline is coming up soon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Nice 1. You can now look forward to receiving your welcome pack in the post - and a day out in April next year to receive your parchment.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nice one kearnsr, fair play!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Dónal wrote: »
    Nice one kearnsr, fair play!

    You're next


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭sul02


    well done kearnsr, what was the interview like? did they mainly focus on the " extended version of the cv" or did they focus on the essays you have to do. did you have many projects under your belt that you led / were a part of - were they short term projects or parts of long term projects?

    Im working on keeping a record of projects im working on but im not sure if they are substantial enough to acceptable.

    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭bowsie casey


    I'm working on my application right now for a Friday submission. It's quite a lot of work if, like me, you didn't keep any records over 10 years work experience.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    That sked me about anything that was in the report.

    I had big stuff and small stuff. I had stuff that I lead and was a team member

    The important thing is that you give them what they want to here. ie show your competent to be a chartered engineer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 peter_de_tool


    Are the IEI regulations designed to it make impossible for engineers working for Foreign Multinationals to gain chartership. All my supervising engineers are foreigners therefore cannot support my application, my role is purely design/ R&D and therefore I have no commericial responsibillity, because of the commericially sensitive nature of my work I am forbidden disclose of disscuss my work without prior approval of head office . Academically I am better qualified than the majority of Chartered engineers.

    While Engineers working for Civil companies or semi state bodies can probably meet the requirements easily, The vast majority of engineers working in high tech sector/manufacturing will never meet these regualtions because of the nature of their employment. Is the IEI out of touch?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭greener&leaner


    Have you asked the IEI, because when I did, they were fine with foreign engineers signing off.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Are the IEI regulations designed to it make impossible for engineers working for Foreign Multinationals to gain chartership. All my supervising engineers are foreigners therefore cannot support my application, my role is purely design/ R&D and therefore I have no commericial responsibillity, because of the commericially sensitive nature of my work I am forbidden disclose of disscuss my work without prior approval of head office . Academically I am better qualified than the majority of Chartered engineers.

    While Engineers working for Civil companies or semi state bodies can probably meet the requirements easily, The vast majority of engineers working in high tech sector/manufacturing will never meet these regualtions because of the nature of their employment. Is the IEI out of touch?

    They are more guidelines than requirements.


    The important thing is that you can show that you meet the key abilities of being a chattered engineer

    Speak to people in the IEI. they are decent enough to deal with


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